The Fully Mindful with Melissa Chureau
The Fully Mindful podcast explores what it is to be fully mindful and present in our everyday lives, uncover our worth and discover our purposes. Host of TFM, Melissa Chureau is a neurodivergent lawyer, mindfulness teacher, and embodiment and breathwork coach. On TFM, Melissa interviews inspiring creatives, wellness leaders, and social disruptors about how they have discovered their purpose(s), authentic wellness, and the value of their work on the world at large.
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The Fully Mindful with Melissa Chureau
Integrating Mindfulness, Recovery, and Neurodivergence for an Authentic Life with Melissa Chureau
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How do we integrate the different parts of ourselves — the messy, the mindful, the ambitious, and the recovering — into a whole, authentic life? In this vulnerable episode host Melissa Chureau opens up about integrating mindfulness, recovery, and neurodivergence. From her career to her relationships and sense of self, she shares how she’s learned to embrace the complexity of who she is and create a life that is both authentic and aligned with her values.
Melissa highlights the powerful role mindfulness has played in helping her build a foundation of integration, belonging, and self-compassion.
Takeaways :
Breaking Free from Perfectionism: Overcoming perfectionism, led to the pressure of keeping parts of her life separate.
ADHD and Neurodivergence: Melissa reflects on how her experiences with ADHD have shaped her perspective on life, work, and relationships. how neurodivergence doesn’t have to be a barrier but is part of her identity, contributing to uniqueness and strength.
Overcoming Alcohol Use Disorder: She opens up about her recovery journey, and how overcoming this was a pivotal part of her life’s integration process. She discusses the importance of self-compassion and patience during the recovery process.
Practical Tips for Integration and Self-Compassion: Whether you are on a journey of personal recovery, neurodivergence, or simply trying to find more balance and authenticity in your life, Melissa offers practical tips for embracing mindfulness, self-compassion, and authenticity.
Why You Should Listen:
If you’re struggling with balancing different parts of yourself, whether due to ADHD, addiction, perfectionism, or other challenges, this episode offers a powerful and relatable perspective. Melissa’s journey serves as a reminder that embracing the messy, complex, and imperfect aspects of our lives is essential for creating an authentic and fulfilling existence.
Tune in to learn how integrating mindfulness, self-compassion, and authenticity can lead to transformative changes in your life, relationships, and sense of self.
[02:03] Melissa’s experience with ADHD and feeling different
[04:20] How Melissa used alcohol to cope with anxiety and emotions
[05:26] The difficulty and relief of getting sober
[06:32] Post-sobriety struggle with emotions and replacing addiction with ambition
[09:33] The cost of compartmentalizing and the impact on personal and professional life
[11:41] How Melissa used mindfulness to shape her interactions with others
[12:52] Challenges and rewards of integrating ADHD and mindfulness into her career
[13:59] How integration led to a sense of belonging and connection with herself and others
Quotes:
" When we try to hide ourselves to compartmentalize, we cut off pieces of ourselves, right? And we cut off pieces of our humanity. But when we bring all of ourselves to the table, that’s when we find true belonging."
"Mindfulness has been the foundation of this integration. It allows me to pause, breathe, hold space for all parts of myself, and have compassion for all parts of myself, the strong, the struggling, the messy, and the resilient."
"Be kind to yourselves, and remember you are whole, just as you are right here, right now."
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Little by little, I started to experiment. I started to let go of the idea that I had to leave parts of myself behind to succeed. I began to integrate and I started to bring a little bit just little, because, man, it was scary. I started to bring little pieces of mindfulness into my work, not just as a practice I did quietly at home, but as a way of being in the world. Welcome to the Fully Mindful Podcast. I'm your host, melissa. I designed this podcast for you. I'm so happy you're here. We are talking about what it means to live with more intention, creativity and authenticity so we can make aligned connections.
Speaker 1I'm a neurodivergent lawyer turned coach who found the healing power of breathwork and the powerful impact of mindfulness as we navigate this wild and beautiful ride of life. Here at the Fully Mindful, we dive deep with inspiring guests, share solo mini-sodes that are packed with tools you can apply immediately, and I mix it up a bit with tangents and sidebars where my friend and host of the New World Normal podcast, debbie Harrell, joins us for some down-to-earth, sometimes random, but always meaningful conversations. If you're ready to breathe, reflect and grow, you're in the right place. Let's get fully mindful. Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Fully Mindful. It's Melissa here, glad to be here, and just me here with you today. No guests, no interviews, just a conversation about something I feel deeply passionate about the journey to integrating our whole selves. I wanted to take this time to share a little bit of my story, not just the highlights or the lessons learned, but also some of the messiness, the struggle and the moments when I thought I might not make it through, at least not completely, because I think that's where the real power of transformation begins. It's in those moments when everything feels hard or impossible and we start to wonder if there's another way.
Speaker 1And for as long as I remember, I felt different. I didn't have a name for it growing up, but I was pretty sure I didn't get the playbook that everybody else got. I now know that it was ADHD. They didn't call it back then. It was a long time ago and my mind was always racing. Sometimes it was racing with ideas or energy, other times it was some form of anxiety or self-doubt.
Speaker 1I struggled to focus, keep up with expectations. I definitely struggled to feel like I belonged, but instead of showing the world those struggles, I worked really, really hard to hide them. I learned really early that people didn't want to know about those things. Teachers didn't want to know about it, family members didn't want to know about it. It was I was really too much for them or not enough, either one of those two things. So I developed this ability to adapt, to put on a mask of competence and confidence, even when I felt like I was drowning inside, and it worked, I guess. But on the inside I carry this constant sense of not enoughness or, like I said, too muchness.
Speaker 1But by the time I hit adulthood, and definitely by the time I hit teenagehood, I had found something, a couple different tools that had helped, at least temporarily. First tool that I had found was food and using food as a tool to manage my feelings and my nervous system. And then I also found alcohol to manage my way of quieting the noise, and it did the anxiety, it silenced the self-doubt, it made me feel, at least temporarily, like I belonged, that I could keep up, I had some sort of purpose. But we all know how the story goes what starts as a coping mechanism becomes a crutch, I suppose, or at least something that no longer works. And before I knew it, alcohol wasn't just something I turned to when things got hard.
Speaker 1Some people do, you know, having a drink at the end of a difficult day but it was just a constant, just something that I did. It became a thing I relied on to just be a human among humans and eventually I reached a point where I couldn't really keep living that way. I kind of felt a little bit crazy, and getting sober in some ways was one of the most difficult things I had to do in my life. But it was also one of the most profound things. I remember feeling this incredible sense of relief, like the jig was up and it was the last house on the block for me to go to. But also this weight was lifted off my shoulders. I didn't have to wear that mask anymore and I didn't have to wake up feeling wondering what I had done the night before or make up excuses or lies, and I wasn't hiding behind alcohol anymore, behind alcohol anymore. But here's the thing that no one tells you about getting sober Once you take away the numbing, once you take away your solution, you're left with everything you were trying to numb.
Speaker 1For me, that meant facing all of the feelings of inadequacy, the pressure of being different and the burdens I had been carrying around for years and really, just, you know, had been pushing down and because I didn't know how to deal with those feelings, I replaced them, one addiction with another drive and ambition. And so, even though when I got sober I was really fortunate, I used a 12 step program that really relied on mindfulness and meditation. And I was super fortunate and was living in the Bay Area and was able to connect with Spirit Rock Meditation Center and connected with mindfulness meditation right away. But somehow I was able to compartmentalize that right. So there was my sobriety and my sober life and then there was everything else. So I would go to Spirit Rock Meditation Center and I would do retreats and I would do all that stuff and I would keep that separate. So I had the spiritual side of myself, the sober side of myself, and then I had this drive and ambition side.
Speaker 1So the drive and ambitious side decided to go to law school and that I was going to make something of myself, that I was going to show everybody that this little ADHD girl, this one who couldn't do anything, could really do something. So I threw myself into that. Hey, everyone, I'm excited to announce my eight week positive intelligence program, the PQ program, starting February 25th, to reduce stress, break through barriers and tap into your true potential. With just one to two hours a week, you'll quiet inner saboteurs, strengthen your inner sage self and build lasting mental fitness through live meetings, daily exercises in the PQ app and powerful practices Ready to transform. Set up a call with me today in the Calendly link in the show notes. We'll see you there.
Speaker 1And I don't know that I was conscious of this, but I think a part of myself was telling myself that if I could just achieve enough, if I could just work harder, I could prove myself, that I'd finally feel worthy. And for a while that strategy really seemed to work. Going to law school, you know, people would just like kudos and like how can you do that and that's so hard. And then graduating law school and like taking the bar and passing the bar and like getting a job and being a successful. My first job was a prosecutor and trying cases and being a litigator and people just being really impressed by that right. And then I was impressed by that like look at me, right, but underneath the surface maybe not so much the surface I was still compartmentalizing. So, even though I'd wake up every morning and I would do some prayer and meditation. I'd leave that at the front door, I'd walk out the front door and go to my job and I put on my suit and go to my job and be the lawyer that I thought I was supposed to be.
Speaker 1So and I still believed I had to keep my ADHD, my struggles, my recovering self completely separate from my professional self and I thought that to succeed as a lawyer, I had to leave those parts of myself, of me completely behind right, completely hidden, and that compartmentalization eventually came at a huge cost. It was absolutely exhausting. I remember at one point I was working at the DA's office and I think I lost like 15, 20 pounds, which I just didn't have to lose the time and just being like sick, and I felt really fragmented, like I was living these multiple lives that just didn't connect and it started to affect everything my sense of self, my relationships, and it even was, I think, affecting my career. I told myself that I was protecting my professional life by keeping my personal struggles hidden, but in reality I wasn't showing up fully anywhere. Here I was being this tough prosecutor whatever the hell that was supposed to mean but I was losing touch with who I really was. My marriage was even beginning to suffer. My relationships in general were strained and I started to wonder was this the life that I wanted to live? The answer was no, but I was honestly perplexed. I didn't know how to fix it.
Speaker 1All those years of sobriety, all those years of prayer and meditation, therapy I mean, I just didn't know what to do. I didn't know how to bring all those pieces of myself together. And that's when I really started to do even more deeper work, and at first it felt impossible, like being at the bottom of some possibly tall mountain and trying to imagine myself getting to the top without any tools. You know, how could I bring my recovering ADHD messy but also a mindful self into the world of deadlines and litigation and difficult defense attorneys and victims? And God, how could I do it? How could I show up as my whole self in spaces that seem to demand perfection and edginess? Right, I just I didn't know how to do it.
Speaker 1But little by little, I started to experiment. I started to let go of the idea that I had to leave parts of myself behind to succeed. I began to integrate and I started to bring a little bit, just little, because, man, it was scary. I started to bring little pieces of mindfulness into my work, not just as a practice I did quietly at home, but as a way of being in the world, and I let the recovering part of me inform my relationships everywhere, not just my relationships with my husband and my friends and family, but relationships with people at work, colleagues, other attorneys, victims and that allowed to give me a little bit more empathy and understanding and I stopped seeing. Well, it took a while, but I began to stop seeing my ADHD as a solely as a liability and started to recognize that there might be some creativity and energy and that's another story for another day but that's been a long road. It was much easier for me to see how my recovery from alcohol use disorder could be a gift and it was much harder for me to bring my ADHD into the world and still working on that. Definitely I've come a long way, but I'm still working on it.
Speaker 1The result of bringing this mindfulness into all aspects of my life I became a better lawyer, I became a more present wife and later, when I had a child, I was able to be a better mother. I became more connected to myself and to the people around me and for the first time in my life, I felt like I belonged here, not just in one role or one space, or with certain people at certain times, but as a whole person, fully integrated. And what I've learned through this journey is that integration is the key to belonging. And I don't just mean belonging in the external sense, belonging at work, in your family, in your community. I mean belonging to yourself. When we try to hide ourselves, to compartmentalize, we cut off pieces of ourselves right, and we cut off pieces of our humanity. But when we bring all of ourselves to the table, when we stop hiding, stop pretending and start embracing every part of who we are, that's when we find true belonging. That's when we start to really feel whole.
Speaker 1For me, mindfulness has been the foundation of this integration. It's what allows me to pause, to breathe and to hold space for all parts of myself, to have compassion for all parts of myself the strong, the struggling, the messy and the resilient. It's what helps me stay present, even when life feels overwhelming let's face it, it often does. And it's what I hope to share with you through this podcast and through the practices I offer, because I believe that integration and belonging aren't just possible. It's our birth right. We are meant to show up fully as our whole selves in every aspect of our lives, so we can be of better service to ourselves and to our fellows.
Speaker 1But if you're listening to this and you're thinking, I really honestly don't know where to start, that's okay. I didn't either. You don't have to have it all figured out. You just have to take one small step. Maybe it's sitting in stillness for a few minutes, just taking a couple of breaths. Maybe it's sharing something vulnerable, someone you trust, or maybe it's simply noticing the parts of yourself you've been hiding and asking what would it be like to let them be seen by maybe just one person? So thank you for spending this time with me today.
Speaker 1Sharing a little bit of my story has reminded me of just how powerful this work can be, not just for me, but for all of us. I hope it inspires you to begin or continue your journey of integration, mindfulness and belonging. Until next time, take care, be kind to yourselves and remember you are whole, just as you are right here right now. Thank you for joining me on the Fully Mindful podcast. If you got value from this episode. I'd love for you to subscribe, leave a review or share this episode with someone who loved this content too. Remember, small moments of mindfulness can lead to big changes in your day-to-day life. Until next time, take a deep breath, stay present and tap into your own mindfulness. I'll see you next week.