Motherhood Relabelled

2. Unlocking the Mystic World of Numerology: A Journey into Spiritual Self-Discovery and Personal Growth 🔮🔢

• Tania Salvati & Vanessa Müller • Season 2 • Episode 2

Have you ever pondered the power of numbers and what they might reveal about you? Prepare to be enlightened as we journey into the realm of numerology and spirituality, discovering how our birth numbers can influence our personality traits and life choices. We share our personal experiences and the transformative counseling session with Richard, who first introduced us to the fascinating world of numerology.

Numerology isn't just a tool for self-discovery, it's also a way to make sense of significant moments in our lives. We delve into our own numerology numbers to reveal personal strengths, self-identities and how these align with our chosen professions. Discover how numerology can be your secret weapon, giving you a unique perspective in understanding yourself and others.

Finally, we venture into the powerful combination of numerology and psychic readings. Hear a touching story about receiving an emotional message from a late grandmother, underlining the profound comfort that numerology and psychic readings can bring. So buckle up and join us on this thought-provoking adventure of spiritual self-discovery!

Want to find out about your numbers? Click here to calculate your own numerology and life path number.

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Motherhood Relabelled is a non-parenting podcast for all parents who don’t let the “parenthood label” hold them back. It’s for those who think that parenthood is a part of us, but not the only thing that defines us. Travelling with kids? Sure! Starting a business with kids? Absolutely! Feeling the fittest and strongest you’ve ever felt with kids? Most certainly! This podcast is your weekly dose of making yourself and your own goals a priority. 

Speaker 1:

Hey Tanya, hello Vanessa, welcome back to episode two of season two. Here we are, welcome Two-two magic numbers. Which girls in line today's topic.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, numerology, and I guess, well, I guess the whole topic that we're going to talk about is Spirituality, I think, is also about spirit being.

Speaker 1:

You know, understanding oneself.

Speaker 2:

Better understanding oneself. Yeah, and I think that's what it all comes down to and it's just look, it's open to interpretation. Yeah, some people believe in this stuff. Some people help, help things that helps them. Some people think it's hocus pocus but, it's. You know, I've always kind of love, like I've, you know. Look, whenever I've seen a horoscope I'll read it, but I just never really take it all that seriously. You know it is.

Speaker 1:

It is a lot of this stuff is how you interpret it and how you totally you know, but I guess it's like as a human race, we're constantly trying to make sense of things Absolutely. We don't always have the answers to everything, and I think it's just one of the tools that can help us to make better sense of things and better understand ourselves and others. And I think, yeah, you just take what serves you and the rest, you just leave out Absolutely, and that's it.

Speaker 2:

That's the important thing, isn't it is? You know, take what you want from it. Yeah, leave what you don't like. You know, use what's helpful. That's it Leave what's not. So I think, whatever gives you peace, whatever gives you guidance, I think, you know?

Speaker 1:

helpful for it? Yeah, 100%, and I think it's. It's maybe not for everybody, but yeah, well, maybe let's take a step back and explain a little bit what numerology actually is.

Speaker 2:

Yeah well, I guess, for those who don't know what numerology is, it's, it is complementary to astrology, but it is a bit of a standalone kind of I don't know method philosophy, it's own method, but essentially it's it's understanding and analyzing your own unique birth numbers, and it's all about getting to the root number.

Speaker 2:

So to do this, you, you simply reduce your digits until you reach a single digit number, and that excludes, actually, 11 and 22, because these are master numbers. But, for example, in numerology, the number eight is often associated with traits like ambition, power, leadership and financial success. I'm an. I'm a number eight from what I've discovered, wow. So there's been. It's actually. I think it's just. I find that it gives me reasoning to why my personality trait is the way it is. You know, people with the number eight are typically seen as driven, confident and capable of achieving goals, and I think this all numerology for me stemmed from a counselling session with an amazing human by the name of Richard, who was introduced to me by one of my friends, and I literally tell everybody you're at Richard, and I think you did. I want to see him. I think all my friends probably got to see Richard at least multiple times, but he truly has a gift you should do like a referral bonus.

Speaker 2:

I know like he's really gifted, and not only he does counselling, which I find, you know, often really helpful, but he also does that intuitive reading and again, you know, you take what you want from it and you know. But so many times he is so spot on without me having to tell him what's actually happening at all. Yeah, and he obviously, you know, you know, receives energy from those who have passed that kind of gives him messages and it's just really eye-opening.

Speaker 2:

And yes, people can say it's coincidental and you know all that sort of stuff, but it's just again, take what you want from it. But I just have always found, you know, his sessions to be really healing and just really helpful for when I need some you know guidance and to get back on track. You know I've always felt at peace out of coming out of that session. So, yeah, I don't go often, but I think whenever I do like I just you know that's awesome have a whole different energy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I must admit I didn't know much about numerology. I'm actually, I definitely consider myself a spiritual person and I know quite a bit about astrology, so I definitely believe in that sort of stuff. I really identify as well with my horoscope, like as a Pisces. I really truly identify.

Speaker 2:

Me too. We're both.

Speaker 1:

Pisces. But I didn't really know much about my numerology so I was really intrigued by that and recently I've been going through a bit of a rough patch. So I thought, oh, you know. Actually you told me why don't you go and see Richard? Now is a good time. So I thought, why not? I would love to learn more about it.

Speaker 1:

And so apparently there are nine numbers, so you can be number one to number nine. And I hadn't met him before, he didn't know any of my stories, so I started fresh right from this blank page and all I gave him was my first name and my date of birth. So he calculated my numbers. So my numerology number six, which is kind of the number of, like it stands for the heart. It's like the kind of like the mother figure, you know, a person who's very caring, loving, nurturing, looks after others, like always feels the need to serve others and care for others. And yeah, I could like. It's also kind of like a creative number. So he was saying, like you know, you would definitely be good at working in a creative industry which was very interesting, which is obviously the industry I work in.

Speaker 1:

And then he also calculated my birth number based on my date of birth. Date right, and that's the number three for me and it's really interesting because it actually represents the child which is kind of like, I guess the opposite you could almost say to mother and child.

Speaker 1:

And he said that in my personality that's always kind of like that inner battle between the mother and the child, the mother who wants to look after everyone, control things, being charged and lead as well being a leader. And then on the other hand, I have this personality of you know the need for freedom, like the desire for, you know, peace and just fun and joy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, just adventure sense of adventure and living a carefree life like children do yes, curiosity and all that stuff.

Speaker 1:

So that really resonated because I can definitely see myself like I try to always master everything and look after everyone, but then sometimes I'm like you know, I have this deep desire to just be free.

Speaker 2:

Yes, so that's very interesting. I know it is really interesting and I've seen Richard a couple of times and obviously, you know, the first time, when he first told me about my number eight, he described eight as being the CEO of numerology and I was like whoa, that sounds important. But you know, the eight obviously has really nice symbols in terms of, you know, you know infinity and all that sort of stuff. But you know something that he talked about at the time when I first saw him. It was, you know, going through a lot of hardship with my ex and he discovered that we were both eight and that symbolized Well me and my partner also bossed, yes Well that's right.

Speaker 2:

But in our case, you know, we were like two roosters under one roof, so these traits, you know, were like butting heads, so they weren't complimentary they could be, but they weren't in our case and it was just like it was just so great to actually put some reasoning yeah, understand better, yeah, and that was it. That was basically. It came down to understanding. You know myself better. But also, what was really cool was I've got my birth number, which you call. Your gift number was two, and that's all about being super sensitive and maternal.

Speaker 1:

Oh, so that gives you text. Text off the edges Exactly, and so he yeah.

Speaker 2:

And so when I first met Richard, he was like, oh wow, these are, like you know, really cool numbers because you've got these like beautiful leadership qualities, but you also have the empathy as a people person. Yeah, you know, this is a really good combination, yeah. And I thought and he's like you know, maybe you could do something and this is before we did women kind and all that sort of stuff and he goes maybe you could do some like mentoring, you know, maybe, like you know, women mentoring or something like like aligned with this, you know.

Speaker 2:

So there, was, and it was just you know, just putting ideas into your mind, but I just loved there was just so rich, so much richness in what the eight and the true combination was.

Speaker 1:

He had a few few good ideas for me as well, and I was thinking just for that. It's worth seeing him, just to get a fresh perspective and ideas of you know what you could start trying and oh, absolutely oh, it's really cool. And has he looked into the numbers of your partner and Toby?

Speaker 2:

Yes, he has. So he's looked into Joel's and Joel's a seven and a four and I've mentioned these to Joel but he's not, he's not all into numerology so he thinks it's a little bit hocus pocus. So there's lots of lovely qualities actually in Joel and and Toby's was interesting too. Toby's is a double seven, seven, seven. So he said that my notes that he wrote down, or I wrote down when I last spoke to him about Toby, was like super intelligent but also quite spiritual, could be secretive, which I thought was quite interesting. Yeah, just really. Yeah, he was just. He just said he's either going to be a scientist or a researcher or an engineer or a long nose lines. He said you know obviously Toby's only two, so we don't know yet. But yeah, it was just really cool to hear you know so cool.

Speaker 2:

It's like saying telling his future, you know he's like, oh well, good, I'm going to have a smart little cookie. Well, for me it's the opposite.

Speaker 1:

Really, not that he didn't say until I was wasn't intelligent. No he said but he was number five. Oh, he's five. Okay, so actually five is like the essence of five personalities like that. They are inherently curious and very adventurous and almost like you know, like they will need a lot of adventure in his life and like he's, like all children are curious but he's like, this is a level curiosity.

Speaker 2:

I'm looking at you.

Speaker 1:

He's just a product of you know but he was saying things like um, he was like yeah he, he loves languages Interesting and he didn't even know Growing up. Yeah, and then he was like um, and then that's when I started to explain to him a little bit more about our backgrounds and he was like he's going to absolutely love traveling and he's going to love, um, you know, exploring his like heritage, heritage countries and stuff. It was so nice to hear that because that's what you want in a way.

Speaker 1:

Using trilingual charts is not easy and I think um that kind of encouraged me that I was doing the right thing and that we should definitely continue and push for it, yeah, and that he would actually love it and make the most of that. So, that was really, really interesting and based on the intelligent thing. So he said he's not like going to be an academic like that.

Speaker 2:

I think it proved you wrong, but sure that's right Like who knows but? Like yeah. Anyway which I am.

Speaker 1:

Look, I don't have any expectations.

Speaker 2:

No, anyway, like I just want him to be happy and find his thing yeah.

Speaker 1:

His thing Absolutely, but that was interesting.

Speaker 2:

He was pretty clear on that. That's so interesting. I found my notes here in a book that I've got. But he's a double seven. So super intellectual, super spiritual, that's what I said. He could be introverted, However. Okay, he's a seeker and a searcher, wants to keep exploring, so that's quite a broad and you know, I guess, a term you know that you would use for kids as well, I guess. And then at that time he said dad, my dad came through, who obviously my dad's passed away, and so he came through and he said dad says he'll be smarter than me, you know, maybe a scientist or something you know. And it's funny because I feel like my dad would say those words.

Speaker 1:

Like you know, so crazy I honestly those moments they that I found the most impressive during the session, like when he brings those messages from yeah, from the sea's loved ones, yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's impossible for him to know details like that, oh for sure, and I'm even like I mean, I've sort of mentioned things to Joel before, but you know, in terms of like his personality, you know, and what he needs to do with life is is something meaningful to make him feel revved up.

Speaker 2:

And that is true, like you know, I feel like Joel succeeds when he has that sort of drive and purpose, you know, and is making a difference, and that's what his numbers, you know, tell, tell him and it also told me with his numbers, like when he's quiet, let him be quiet, as opposed to me always wanting to talk and talk and talk, like over the top of you know, everybody. So that was an interesting, interesting one for sure. But you know, and it also depends on the year, that you're in, like the cycle, because obviously there's nine numbers and you're in, you know, one to nine cycles, and number one is that typical sort of new beginnings, rebirth, all that sort of stuff. That's number one. Number nine is, you know, the end of things. So that's interesting because I was in my ninth year when I was basically divorced, you know getting divorced.

Speaker 2:

So then my new beginning started, like when I was in my year one, and now I'm in my third year and my third year is all about finding joy and getting back to those childlike qualities inside and I think I can relate to that because you know it's been, you know you know your tough, you know a couple of years of finding your groove and as a new, mom Also, like during a pandemic and everything just True, like all those things that you've lost a little bit of the joy and the stuff that used to make you happy, or you don't have time as much time as you used to for those things that you know lifted you up, so yeah, so I think I like that because it is about actually finding those things that you know lift me up and make me happy and fill my cup and, you know, just doing more of that and actually making time for it and prioritizing those things for myself.

Speaker 2:

So, I thought that was really cool and that came out of the session. And there were a few things in this later session that you know I'm I'd like to work on and that's, you know, creating more of a understanding myself but that sense of self. You know, and due to my personality, I can be easily swayed. I am a bit of a people-pleaser and that's something I also need to work on. But yeah, it is that creating that sense of self and understanding what that means for me, without being influenced too much by other people. And you know, I know I can do it and I but I can easily be, you know, molded. I think, as a, as you know, for my personality, I have to stand my ground a little bit more, and I think that's something that was brought to my attention.

Speaker 1:

That sounds like the antidote to number eight. Yeah, that's right, so it's maybe your number two, then that overtakes. Yeah, yeah, interesting.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly. So I think you know I have all the other qualities, I think deep down, to be that leader, but I could easily be swayed due to my two.

Speaker 1:

It could also be your superpower. Yeah, if you use it the right way, like as he said, as Richard said, like it's actually a beautiful combination of numbers, and if you turn it into your superpower, it can actually give you an edge you know, over others who are like, because you have that empathy and ability to connect and adapt. Yes exactly Because I think sometimes you know, with the number eight I could see how, depending on what second number you care with it.

Speaker 2:

that's exactly right, Someone who's quite like aggressive.

Speaker 1:

Aggressive and stubborn, and just like my way, or no?

Speaker 2:

way and not to name names, but my ex was a, I think, an eight with a nine, okay, and they typically nine's typically hold on to grudges and you know things like that. So that was an interesting combination. Yeah, yeah, that was different to my combination, you know, that's right. But yeah, look, actually to get to your number, just if anybody wanted to try and figure it out for themselves, you basically add your whole date of birth numbers. So mine would be the 20th or the third, 83. So I add up the two plus the three plus one plus nine, plus eight plus three, and you basically want to get down to a single digit. So you keep adding the numbers up till you get to one digit, okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but do? Is it like you create a combination?

Speaker 2:

Sorry, that's the formula. I guess Okay, okay To create to get to your life path number. That's interesting. It's just your date of birth. All those numbers added up like one at a time.

Speaker 1:

I didn't even ask him how to calculate, he just wrote down all the numbers and gave me a number. I was like, oh wow.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the number six and you're three, because your birthday is three. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's really cool and yeah, no, but Clemore, for instance, it's both the 11th of July and he still has two like. Number two is a second.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, one and one. Okay, that's why. But there's something special about those master numbers. I haven't looked in the whole lot to it, but I know that, like the two and the two and the one and the one, there's something special about them because they call them Must numbers interesting.

Speaker 1:

Well, there's clearly a whole of it, whole lot that goes to just totally.

Speaker 2:

I did a chat Gbt just to see what it would say about my numbers. Yeah, and it with the number two, which is obviously relating to Clemore as well. It's often associated with traits like cooperation, balance, diplomacy and sensitivity, which is what we knew totally, and they generally this peacemakers and mediators and they tend to value harmonious relationships. So I thought that was you know. It was quite fitting, obviously with you know the number two.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I can definitely see Clemore in that. I think it's very sensitive and caring and, you know, definitely also like a piece of my lucky, he doesn't Tolerate conflict very well.

Speaker 2:

I don't. Yeah, I don't need that, to be honest, I'll avoid it Wherever I can, for sure. And that obviously comes to the people plays in quality Mm-hmm, which something I need to work on, but you know, everyone has something.

Speaker 1:

Like I think there's like qualities, the strength and weaknesses for sure with every number. Yeah, I think, like what he was saying about my number three would like the gift. Number Is that I'm a very good communicator. And because I have that, that creative spirit of that's. It's kind of part of the number six. He's like, oh, you would, you would work really well in creative communications. I was like huh, well, luckily I'm in the right place.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but it was. It was because my whole life I kept thinking about you know, is this what I was meant to do? Like, yeah, I'm in the right place and it's just Interesting how you are drawn. You know, life Like drags in the right direction. Like without even knowing, like absolutely, made some choices that were a bit like Out of the blue, if you will, like I didn't always plan everything exactly and somehow I ended up here. So I figure like it's so cool, isn't it?

Speaker 2:

I mean, supposed to be like this, and did you. How did you feel after the session? I mean, I as it, as you know, I always say that I feel so, healed in some way. Did you feel like a sense of calm, a sense of ease?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, lighter, I felt lighter and better understanding and I liked as well. I mean it can go both ways. I'm not sure if he ever actually tells people, if you see something super negative. Yeah, how he would deal with that. That that would be interesting question. Yeah, but I was kind of as well. It put me at ease knowing that, not just about myself, but also looking at our family dynamic.

Speaker 2:

For Climber and Tails number like that. We had very good family synergy. That's so nice. Yeah, so it was nice for me to hear that. Tell me to his numbers again five, what was, and what day is he born? The six so he's a six. Yeah, that's why. So he's a six. You all have sixes in your numbers, that's right, so you're all fairly in sync. Wow, that's so cool.

Speaker 1:

So I'm a six, three. Two is a five, six and Clemence a six, two.

Speaker 2:

See that's really cool. Oh, everyone to have a six. That's you all have an understanding right, yeah, that's similar trait, it's the number of the heart, like you know the Mother like exactly and you know actually, when you were saying that earlier, it made me think of the actual shape as well. Yeah, because the six is almost like a mother shape, like yeah, the way, like you know, like the. Oh my god.

Speaker 1:

I know, yeah, I know, I've always kind of visually thought that too, but um, and he's told he said as well, very interesting things about Clemore. Yeah, in the sense, like you was, like he said, clemore would be very good at healing, like and he was like oh, has he got like big, strong hand?

Speaker 1:

I was like, are you joking? Like how do you know that he has big? Like yeah, I was very big hands, yeah, and anyway. So he put one and one together and he was like maybe he could do something like you know, building or something like massage.

Speaker 2:

Well, you're like yeah, sure, Thank you yeah it's like that's a great idea. This is quite a good mess. I love you. He does. That's hilarious, decides to quit his day job.

Speaker 1:

Exactly, maybe like a little side hustle or something. And yeah, no, that was. It was really really interesting, I think I definitely want to go back. Hmm, do it again.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I think at different stages and you know when things change and yeah, I don't know like. I mean you could totally use him as a counseling, a counselor anyway, I'm just saying I need and I know it's got a bachelor in psychology, so you know there's qualified. Yeah, it's not just hocus pocus and that's right numbers.

Speaker 1:

Have you ever told your mom about you're going to like because I could see you being quite skeptical.

Speaker 2:

Definitely I've got a lot of you know, influences around that would fairly, that would be fairly skeptical about it. But, um, I Don't know, I think she is skeptical, like as much as I might tell her things, and because there was one time that I went that he Said is there, like a friend? And he's brought it up again. He's literally brought the same name up again and he said is there a Franco or a Francis or a Fran? And and he's, and you know something about their health, like their heart, or you know, and my cousin Francis, who may be listening, she has high blood pressure but cannot understand where it's coming from, like the root cause of it, and I Feel like it just is a constant thing for her.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And I think I might have even told her like you know, check yourself out. If you need for any heart issues, go and get checked out, because I feel like it's he's brought up twice.

Speaker 1:

Now see rich and yeah.

Speaker 2:

Tomorrow, until I seriously, honestly. Because you know when you look for answers yeah, might as well try and he's yeah, he said that now twice and you know to use a part same person and the heart. So I don't know, it's not like he would remember that, you know, like that's that's, it's, that's the, the intuitive stuff.

Speaker 1:

So anyway, he also told me, like I said to him, like we talked about Obviously my son and stuff and he was like I can see a name and I hadn't told him a name at all and he was like Tom, like he like you know, obviously not exactly right. Yeah, like he gave me two names, I forgot the second one. He said with teeth, starting with the letter T. That's cool. It's like that is crazy.

Speaker 2:

I'm looking at you to see if you've got any like T-shirt or necklaces or nothing, nothing crazy, isn't it?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and then he gave me a message for my partner's mom from her late mother Mother, so we must grandmother. And that's where I was like completely mind blown because I was like how's the house that's possible? You know, it was like a really beautiful message like for for his mom from her mother. Yeah, and I actually passed it on to Clemorene. He, he got very like, he was very touched by it, and then he passed the message on to his mom, because Richard actually told me you have to tell her, all right, and but I felt it was more appropriate for Clemorene to pass on the message. And then she, she, she cried like she was so touched and emotional like and she was like because she's a very spiritual person.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she's having a tough time at the moment, but she's also a very spiritual person. She actually, she said, like she was waiting for a message from her mom, yeah, and she, um, yeah. So she was yeah, that's cool, really really made her so happy. Gives you goosebumps, doesn't it? It really gives you goosebumps.

Speaker 2:

I remember, um, another time, um, my grandmother had also come through Um, and just the way that he spoke about her I told him nothing about my grandmother and he just brought up so many things that described her and her personality. And he goes oh, I can see her, like you know, she's fiery, like she's, she's funny, like you know. He was like just saying how it made him feel, um, and it was, you know, just so, it really gave me goosebumps. And she came in to the reading, you know, one of the first times, and she's like look, she can see you with children, because this is the time I had no children.

Speaker 2:

He goes I, she can see you with two children and I'm like that's cool, like at the, at that time I had nobody, I hadn't, you know, no child, no partner, um, so I, I think that was, you know, a nice reassuring moment and, you know, putting me at ease then. But I just loved the way that he described my grandmother, um, because I could relate, you know, to what he was saying and she was, she is fiery and she was funny and she would just, you know, make fun but also, you know, stand her ground and I don't know, she was quite hilarious, like as well. So he actually I remember him even saying that she's hilarious. I'm like, how do you know, like he obviously could, I don't know sense it and feel like he feels energy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's so fascinating. Honestly, I could sit there all day literally talking to him.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, me too, I know before one before, like before you know at the hours up and you're like, is it finished already?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, um, like, thank you so much for actually introducing me to this.

Speaker 2:

Oh, no problem, because, yeah, I just I think my friend Jazz, because she was the original one that um introduced me and now I've introduced him to, like I don't know, all my friends pretty much yeah.

Speaker 1:

Have you had any like um anyone of your friends who went who had like some really interesting? Yeah, rebellion.

Speaker 2:

I think so. I think again, like I asked, it's just you know situational stuff, like you know, you're unsure of your position, or you know what to next, or you're feeling a bit stuck, or you know. So I feel like there's always just, I think my friends always just feel like there's reasoning to why they're feeling a certain way to better understand their partners.

Speaker 1:

You know so I think there's no, there's no real revelations other than the fact that, yeah, they're just better understanding the current situation, that they're in yeah, well, with Clemore actually um, he was so yeah well, he asked me actually for the contact, because now I think it convinced him my experience and the stuff that he said also about him, which I'm not going to share here because it's it's quite easy, he's sorry. It's his story, but it was so accurate I saw like part of me thinks that he actually connected more with Clemore than he did with me in that session.

Speaker 2:

I found the same the first time that I went yeah, like it wasn't all about me.

Speaker 1:

That's right, it's so there was so much like a lot about Clemore and what he said was so accurate. Yeah, I think, reporting back to Klima, about it. You know, like I think he was really blown away by that, and so I think he's very interested in doing his own fashion, Definitely.

Speaker 2:

Oh for sure. And even like when I, when I brought up Joel, I think one of the first times I went to Richard like there was so much that I couldn't wait to share, Especially because, you know, just at a time of transition and you know Joel's transition careers, and I just couldn't wait to share like this sort of information and just even things like you know how important routine and fitness is in his life and how that, you know, creates structure and just the whole revved up stuff like of what actually you know lights him up and drives him.

Speaker 1:

So like I'm just so amazed by it, but Klima is usually more of a rational person, exactly which is why Joel's, not 100% so old, yeah, but so that's why I'm surprised. But even he, I think he's very sold on it. Yeah, because what? What he said about Klima was just so spot on.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so cool. Well, there you go. Richard this this guy has a gift. I seriously think it's just.

Speaker 1:

I was thinking actually, what's the difference right Between our brains and like a brain like Richard's? Because clearly, like he, has some sort of connect.

Speaker 2:

There's an extra sense, isn't there, to the universe or the. I think it's gut, gut feels, it's intuition, it's the ability to connect spirituality, connect energies, because I think there's a lot of energy stuff we probably don't connect.

Speaker 2:

There was yeah there was one thing that I must mention that I thought was really cool and scary at the same time. But I told him that, you know, I'd been recently diagnosed as a celiac, in the last couple of years, and he was saying, look, you know this, things that happen in your gut are often due to, like an uneasiness or, you know, not following your intuition. And so I just thought that that was fascinating and he sort of said that's why disease is called disease, because it stems from this uneasiness.

Speaker 2:

You know and it's slightly true, I guess like a lot of diseases do happen from you know psychological yeah as well, like triggered by, I should say, different issues that you might be facing in life, or hardships or trauma. So I just found that quite fascinating and eye-opening at the same time. So yeah, so trust your gut.

Speaker 1:

Trust your gut. Wow, now I'm honestly. I can't wait to book in my second session. Probably gonna wait a little bit until you know, I see where life takes me and but yeah, it's definitely something I'm, I think I could. I would love to also one day go to someone a little bit even more focused focused, but someone like who reads tarot cards or something. It is fascinating, I do love that stuff.

Speaker 2:

I have been a couple of times like markets in Byron, like years ago, but I just there was nothing that I really connected with, so it made me go. Nah, nah, well, yeah, pretty much I was like, well, that was a good waste of money, wasn't it? But look, I want to go.

Speaker 1:

But look, I'm sure if you find the right person that you can connect with and you know what, with Richard, it was the opposite right, because I was like, even if I hadn't gotten anything out of it which I have but just purely what I got to deliver to Clemore which helped him, and what we got to deliver to his mom was worth every penny Exactly. That's cool, like just it made her so happy to receive that message from her mom.

Speaker 1:

That's pretty cool and anyway. So I would hope like I'm still hoping for my granddad just to send me a message one day, one day he will. That's what I was waiting for, but they was. I asked for it afterwards. You know what's like. Is there nothing? Like you know, like you're sure you don't like not coming through. Yeah, but it's just, you don't get to choose those things. That's right when it comes to, or not?

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. Oh, that's cool, but, yeah, very, very fascinating. So what are you up to for the rest of the week? Well, tomorrow's Friday, so I'm pretty excited by that. Yeah, it's been a it's been a good week so far. So lots of swimming on the weekend. Oh yeah, the temperatures are rising again. We might go to a golf open day and they've got like a family day for kids and really you should come if you like. When is it? It's on Saturday. Saturday, yeah, from 11.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I can't actually do that because I have a 40th birthday on Saturday. Can you believe I have a birthday. Wow, like yourself.

Speaker 2:

I know Freaky, isn't it?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Well, I feel like that's you know, that's our generation, I mean.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to 50 year old parties. So yeah, it's true, skipped, you know, a few years.

Speaker 1:

Oh my goodness, I think I feel like 40, like a new 30. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:

Totally. I mean, if you think about your parents when they were 40 or 50, very, very different lifestyle. I guess, like for some reason, like they just added on an extra, like 10 years, then 100%, like just all gain next to each other, we will gain it.

Speaker 1:

They lost it anyway. Whether our buddies cope with that longevity, I don't know. Who knows. Well, it was so good to speak about this topic. I really enjoyed that and maybe like one day, maybe Richard would join us?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we can ask.

Speaker 1:

Richard to come on session and we can do like a life reading or something that would be super cool. Yeah, very cool. I think our audience would love that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we might have to filter it now, just in case. No, no, I wish, we definitely asked Richard to come. Anyway, well, thank you so much for joining in and until next week, hopefully, you found that interesting and we'll speak to you soon.

Speaker 1:

Bye.

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