Count Us In
The Count Us In Podcast was born from 3 working drummers meeting at a Drum Camp, and after spending countless hours discussing their struggles and successes with this wonderful instrument, they decided to open the conversation to the wider drumming community. Matt Lacey, Jamie Joiner and Harry Surman are talking about the drumming journey, whilst letting the listener into their practice schedules, gigging preparations and drumming goals. This podcast is from working drummers, for working drummers! Join the conversation and get in touch on Instagram: @countusinpodcast
Episodes
80 episodes
What Is "The Dream"?
In this weeks episode, we discuss what we think "the dream" is. We discuss things that we'd love to do in our drumming journeys and things we've done that feel like big achievements. What do you feel most proud of in your drumming journey, and ...
Practice Pad Workouts
In this episode we continue our practice pad exercises with our 6th episode in the series. We all bring a different exercises that use various rudiments and explain how these workouts can be both useful before a gig and to develop technique, bu...
Album Deep Dive: Plans by Death Cab For Cutie (Jason McGerr)
In this episode, we return to our "Deep Dive" series where one of us presents the others with an album to listen to top to bottom, and we dive deep on the drummer behind the album, the drum parts, the sounds, production and songwriting. With Ma...
Navigating Band Dynamics
In this episode, we discuss navigating band dynamics. A touchy subject no doubt, but we discuss how we've tried to navigate awkward conversations about commitments to rehearsals and gigs, to organising calendars for dates. How have you gone abo...
Dealing With Uncertainty
In this weeks episode, we talk about dealing with uncertainty. Being working drummers, we all encounter uncertainty all too often. From not knowing when the next gig will come in, not knowing what to practice, what bit of gear to buy and everyt...
Growing An Originals Band
In this episode we discuss all our experiences in growing our originals bands. Reminiscing about our very first originals bands, all the way to our most recent experiences with our current projects. Have you been a part of an originals project ...
Tips For Your First Gig
In this episode, we give you some tips and tricks for your first gigs. These are the kind of things that we've learnt the hard way through experience, like having no hi hat clutch or drum rug. So we hope that we can save you the trouble. Are th...
Restarting In 2026!
We're back! Thank you to everyone that listened and shared the podcast in 2025. We took some time over Christmas and the beginning of January to regroup and talk about what we want to do with our drumming and of course, the podcast ...
EP70 - Recording Drums Easily
In this episode, Matt and Harry discuss making recording drums more accessible. We discuss affordable microphones and interfaces that are ideal for starting and ways in which you can get yourself started in the world of recording. It can feel v...
EP69 - Developing As A Teacher
In this weeks episodes, Matt and Jamie discuss their personal development as a teacher and what they have learned in their years of teaching. Instagram: @countinspodcastMatt: @matt_lacey_drummerJamie: @jamiejoinermusic...
EP68 - Drum Heads & Drum Camps
In this episode, we catch up with Matt about this years The Drummers Odyssey Camp and get some highlights, we talk bass drum heads and what we’re using and talk about plans for the remaining episodes of the year!Instagram: @co...
EP67 - The UK Drum Show Debrief
In this episode, we unpack and talk everything about this years UK Drum Show. We discuss our pickups from the show floor, performance highlights and memories from the weekend. Were you at this years show? Let us know what you enjoye...
EP66 - Its That Time…UK Drum Show 2025!
This weeks episode is all about the UK Drum Show. Its our yearly get together with the drumming community to marvel at the incredible drummers that perform, the amazing equipment all of our favourite companies have on display and get fuelled up...
EP65 - 3 Drum Fills To Practice
In this weeks episode, we share 3 drum fills to work on in your practice. These drum fills we recorded and demonstrated during the recording of the episode using our electric kits, but you can find the notation and visual demonstrat...
EP64 - Teaching Drums Without Playing Drums
In this episode we discuss the sometimes awkward topic of teaching drums.. without actually playing drums...Ever taught a lesson where you have the student play for no more than 5 minutes, but you've spent most of the lesson chatting? We...
EP63 - Album Deep Dive: Continuum by John Mayer (Steve Jordan)
In this episode we kick off a brand new series we'll be exploring where we do a deep dive on one album and the one drummer that plays on it, and what better way to kick this series off with the masterpiece that is John Mayer's "Continuum". ...
EP62 - Travel Gigs and Drum Parts
In this episode, we catch up with Harry on his recent fly gig to Kuala Lumpur with the BeeGee's tribute he plays with, playing 2 theatre shows. We also answer some listener questions which led us to discuss our drum parts in the intro music. Th...
EP61 - The Business of Music
In this episode, Matt and Jamie discuss being in the business of music and the challenges and realities of being a full time musician. Follow us on Instagram:@countusinpodcastMatt: @matt_lacey_drummerJamie: @jam...
EP60 - Special Guest: AJ Rousell (@ajrouselldrums)
In this episode, we finally sit down with our good friend, and reason why this podcast exists... AJ Rousell! We talk to AJ about becoming a drum clinician, teaching, his current projects, influences and his first release as a drummer "The Remis...
EP59 - Gigs, Warm Ups & News!
In this weeks episode, we discuss our recent gig outings, our warm ups on gigs and Matt has some very exciting news...Social Media: Instagram: @countusinpodcastMatt: @matt_lacey_drummerJamie: @jamiejoinermusic
EP58 - Inspiration VS Exasperation
In this episode we discuss the feeling of being inspired but also completely exasperated at the same time. As drummers, we get so much inspiration from our favourite plays and musicians, but can also overwhelmed by the technical brilliance that...
EP57 - Utilising Social Media Part 2
In this episode, we continue our discussion on utilising social media. We discuss some points missed off from the last episode and dive deeper into the conversation. How are you using social media to your advantage? Let us know on our Instagram...
EP56 - Utilising Social Media
In this episode, we discuss utilising social media. We discuss what platforms we are using and which we priorates, as well as how we make content for it and what we distribute to other platforms. How do yo use your social media? Let us know on ...
EP55 - How We Learn Songs
In this episode, we discuss our song learning process and approach to tackling a new setlist to prepare for upcoming gigs. Each of us have a different approach and we thought it would be interesting to discuss and hear how we differ. How do you...