Cleaning Business Life

CBL EP 162 V4: The Leader

Shannon Miller & Jamie Runco Season 2026 Episode 162

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You’re evolving faster than your old identity can keep up.

That’s EBVTT:

  • Evolution out of the field
  • Belief shifts around control and value
  • Vision beyond today’s schedule
  • Transition that feels messy and awkward
  • Trust in systems instead of saving everything yourself

🎧 We break this down in Phase 4: The Leader (EBVTT)
This episode is for owners stuck between “I can do it better myself” and “I can’t keep living like this.”

#EntrepreneurPhases #EBVTTFramework #FromCleanerToCEO #LeadershipGrowth

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Hosted by Shannon Miller and Jamie Runco, each episode pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to start, grow, and scale a cleaning business — covering pricing, systems, leadership, boundaries, and the real conversations most people avoid.

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Because in life — and in business — clean is just the beginning.

— Shannon & Jamie