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Exploring Crystals, Astral Reiki and Human Design with Scarlett Seebach

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A crystal can be beautiful, but what happens when you treat it like a being with a history—and cleanse it like you mean it? That’s where our conversation with Scarlett Siba starts and never really stops: with respect for energy, for the body, and for the quiet signals that guide real change. We trade stories about first crystal hauls, overactive grids that turned bedrooms into humming engines, and the simple rituals—smoke, water, moonlight, breath—that turn a rock into a partner and a room into a sanctuary.

Scarlett opens up about astral Reiki and why “distance” can feel startlingly intimate. She describes leaving with intention, working through the light body, and returning clients to themselves when life scatters their attention and pulls chakras out of coherence. We talk openly about protection—how to ask, how to feel it—and why the astral isn’t a theme park. Ground first, then go. If you’ve ever woken up exhausted from dreams that felt like a second shift, you’ll find practical ways to set boundaries for the night and re-enter the morning with more of you intact.

The episode crescendos with a live Human Design read: sacral manifesting generator, 3/5 profile, defined splenic intuition, and the resource allocation channel that mirrors a purpose of connecting people to what they need. We reframe “martyr” as Explorer and “heretic” as Fixer, naming projections without carrying them home. We also confront the soft tyrant of the undefined Heart—the “shoulds” that turn worth into work—and practice listening for a gut-led yes or no before the mind starts negotiating.

If you’re curious about crystals, energy healing, or Human Design—and you want grounded language, not fluff—you’ll feel at home here. Tap play, then tell us what resonated most and what you’ll try next. And if this conversation supported you, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a review so more curious minds can find their way to the work.


Thank you for joining me today. Please know that this podcast and the information shared is not to replace or supplement any mental health or personal wellness modalities provided by practitioners. It’s simply me, sharing my personal experiences and I appreciate you respecting and honoring this space and my guests. If you find my content relatable, please feel free to like, share and subscribe. Have a beautiful day full of gratitude, compassion and unconditional love. 

Meet Scarlett of Your Abundant Design

SPEAKER_03

What's up, you guys? Welcome to this episode of Crystal Clear. We have a special guest who traveled to be here today. So I'm super excited. We have a retreat this weekend. Um, Scarlett Siba from Knoxville, Tennessee. Correct? Yes. Um, she is founder of Your Abundant Design, which is a go-to spot for all kinds of beautiful, magical things that we will get into on today's episode. So thank you so much for being here, Scarlett. Thank you so much for having me. Of course. So tell us a little bit about you. I mean, okay, so I'll I'll kind of talk about our introduction. So we connected via email and had a little Zoom call. And literally popping it up as we were doing our Zoom, I'm like, do you would just want to come to Sarasota to do a retreat? Before I even knew what she did, what she was about. I just like, you know, but would you get those downloads? I'm like, you gotta flow with that. Yeah. And here we are. I mean, that was what, a month ago? Give or take, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. It was really quick. Um, so welcome.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you. I think it's just one of those fun, impulsive, whimsical decisions that has just worked out beautifully. So um grateful that you took the opportunity to travel to Sarasota and um come. And I'm super excited. We have a retreat coming up with all kinds of beautiful opportunities. But tell us a little bit about you. Tell us about your abundant design. What do you offer? What do you kind of like? Where has your journey led you? And um yeah, let's just start there.

Impulse Invite, Retreat Plans, Serendipity

SPEAKER_05

Okay. Um, so it's called your abundant design because the first thing that I really got into was human design. And uh in human design, I am a five-one emotional manifestor. And so that's where I started. And I started with blending um human design with um like financial counseling, which was super fun. But I I don't do a whole lot of it anymore. I still do a lot of human design readings and I absolutely love it. Um, and then I realized that I was very much limiting myself with just human design because as a manifester, we kind of like to have our hands in a lot of different pots. And so I branched off into crystals and um Reiki and do this uh really specialized form of Reiki called astral Reiki, um, where I actually astral project over to wherever my client is and run Reiki through my light body instead of my physical body. So it tends to be a little bit more potent.

SPEAKER_03

So I love that. And I got to have the opportunity experience yesterday. Yes. And I'm wearing my green today to keep my heart chakra from being jelly. But if and I'm totally open to it, let's share that experience. So I've done several energy healings and Reiki sessions and also like Reiki 2 certified. And so I've done a lot of different energy work and I love it because I always go in and I just try to be super open to whatever that particular practitioner offers because every you every person is unique. There's no two people that do the same energy work, there's no two sessions that are ever the same, even if you see the same person all the time. So from my perspective, we were in our guest house where we're doing our retreat. I just kind of laid back. I went into like a meditative state, um, which was really nice because I just left a big event. We had our annual awards um celebration at my corporate job. And um, you know, so a lot of people, a lot of interactions and things like that. Went home, let the dog out, got a little bit of sunshine, took my shoes off, walked bare feet just to ground myself a bit. But that's kind of how I went into this session. And other than, you know, just kind of giving you a brief of I feel like I'm all over the place. That's all you really knew going into it about me.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Um, so yeah, from your perspective, tell me about kind of what or share with us what kind of came up, what what you found in that session, if you remember it, because I find this too. If I do energy work, sometimes I lose it.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So if you lost it, that's totally fine.

SPEAKER_05

I I remember some. Yeah. Um, and so the thing that like I really noticed with you is how scattered everything was, which you know, you said you felt like you were all over the place and you were. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

All the little different versions of me.

SPEAKER_05

Yes. And there were many that were just like scattered to the four winds. And so, like, one of the things that I really focused on was bringing you back into yourself. And your chakras were actually really spread out as well. So it was just focused on bringing you back in, bringing your chakras back into your body where they go. Um, and the fascinating thing about yours was how watery everything was. And especially around your heart chakra. That was that was what you were referring to with the jelly, because it did like the consistency of your heart chakra kind of reminded me of jelly. Um, so like focusing on really letting the water out of your heart chakra and resolidifying everything so it acted more like a chakra and less like a sandwich. Right. Um so um that was those were the big things that I really saw there.

Human Design Origins and Pivot

SPEAKER_03

So that's interesting because I feel like I've been in this state and I've mentioned in a previous podcast. Like I have been all over the place. Like it's been, you know, have my different buckets. I have felt really great since our session. I wanted to ask because I went in with intention, like I told you, of just coming back to me, coming back inward. Um, because when I get spread too thin and there all the buckets are open and halfway in, and you know, it's just it's too much. So reeling it all back in, and I really had this like mantra of just go with the flow. Just flow through, just flow through. Well, apparently I turned everything into water. So I'm like, well, that, you know, I mean, you can really manifest the water. You absolutely can. I was flooding, apparently. A little. Yes. So that's awesome. So tell us kind of so we have this retreat coming up, and you're offering a crystal workshop, which I think is wonderful because, like yourself, I love the crystals. I really dove deep when I started understanding more of this like spiritual realm and energy work. And I always felt drawn to them, even from like very, very young age, like drawn to crystals or rocks or just anything in nature, really. I felt that it was healing, even like trees when I was little, like the whole phrase like tree hugger. Like I totally was a tree hugger. Like I could feel almost the vibration of the trees. I I climb trees all the time. But anyway, when I started getting into all of this, I really dove deep into crystals. And there's this place that ohm shop. I don't know if you've had to get it.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, we're going tomorrow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Super excited. Tell them you're my friend that we're doing the retreat together. They will just treat you like a queen. They're the best. Um anyway, I'll go and I'll just pick a bunch, a ton of stuff out. And they're great because they give you the card that tells you like what the crystal is, what chakra it's you know, kind of helps, like what it helps you, what it can help balance, what it can help support, all the things. And every single time I would go and just do like a haul, and they always laugh when I come in because they're like, here she comes. I just I I I feel drawn to what I it's always something I need. Always. So then I started like diving deeper into understanding like the properties. And so yeah, I'm excited we're doing that crystal workshop because you knew you acquire them, but it's like, you know, how do you cleanse them? How do you charge them? How do you how do you use them? Right. Um, you know, I feel like I've kind of lost sight of carrying with me all the time. I used to keep them in my bra. I used to keep them like in my purse, in my pockets. And I feel like I've kind of gotten away from that. So maybe I need to bring that back a little bit.

SPEAKER_05

Oh man, I feel really naked right now because I'm not wearing any. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I have one on my wrist.

SPEAKER_05

Like they're all in the car.

unknown

Right.

SPEAKER_03

The car is really, really safe right now. The car is very safe. Yeah. So for our guests, kind of explain that a little bit. Like if you were to explain like the symbol the symbolic properties of the crystals, like how to use them, um, you know, when to use them, when to charge them, when to cleanse them. Let's kind of chat about that first. And then we'll get into some more of the energy work, if that's okay. Yeah. I think that's a big hot topic. It's like everyone's drawn to them because they're beautiful.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

What do we do with them?

Astral Reiki Explained and Heart “Jelly”

SPEAKER_05

Well, you know, I tend to think that the first thing that you need to do with a crystal is learn how to empathize with it. Um, so, like, my very first crystal, which I actually brought with me for this class.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I love it.

SPEAKER_05

Is how I'm starting the class. So you're gonna get a sneak peek into the class right now. So my very first crystal was um a clear quartz. It was just this tiny little necklace thing that I got for, I don't know, three dollars in a four-pack. And I got it and I put it on and I was thinking, oh, this will amplify my energy. I'll get more energy because manifestors, we always want more energy. We don't get to have it most of the time, but we want it. And um, so I put this on and thinking, yeah, I'm gonna amplify my energy. And I wore it for about a week. And by the time that week was up, I felt like I was coming out of my skin. I was so emotional, and I'm fairly certain I was going insane.

unknown

Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_05

And that's when I found out that you can buy cheap crystals and they will mess with you.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I was wondering, I was like, okay, the four-pack, where'd you get it? Was it real? Was it I mean, it's clear quartz.

SPEAKER_05

It was, it was real because that's cheap. But um it's it's so important to check and make sure.

SPEAKER_03

You didn't know to cleanse it when you got it.

SPEAKER_05

I didn't cleanse it.

SPEAKER_03

And so you had everyone's energy that I totally did. That's kind of in it.

SPEAKER_05

Exactly. And you know, I mean, if you think about it, it makes total sense. Right. Because if you look at it from the crystals perspective, you know, clear quartz, it's all about the amplification of energy. Like it'll it'll do pretty much anything you want it to do. It's uh it's pretty great. Like that. It's a really great starter crystal. It is really a great starter crystal if you cleanse it.

unknown

Right.

SPEAKER_05

That's important, as it turns out. Um, but you know, you think about how a crystal starts out. It's growing usually in a cave of some sort, in a community with all of these other crystals. And then randomly, somebody comes through with a pickaxe and chops it away from its family. It's hugely traumatic. And then they cart it off to do god knows what with it. And they're like forming it. They're sometimes they stick it in a tumbler so it's crashing against other crystals all the time for weeks on end. And so, like all of that is really, really traumatic. And that's not even counting the number of people who have touched that crystal before it even makes its way to you. So, really empathizing with that, really understanding why you need to cleanse your crystal, I feel like is a good first step for anybody before you even get to the cleansing part. It's like really understanding.

Crystal Basics: Cleanse, Charge, Empathize

SPEAKER_03

That reminds me we should do that to our bundles. We should sage them before the Yes. Yes. That's a good idea. That'll probably be the easiest way in for time's sake. For time's sake, for time's sake, yeah. Yeah, we can do a little Yes. Yeah, I even have some moon water. We can put them in or something or toss them in if we need to. But uh solid. Yeah, that just just thinking about that leading up to our retreat. I'm like, okay, so we have all these new ones. Here we are. It's good. See, everything happens for a reason. So that's awesome. Okay. I do um feel you on that. So it's interesting because when you were talking came up, I remember my first. I mean, I've been collecting crystals since I was very young. I wish I remembered my first, but I, you know, we would go to California when I was little and you know, the gift shops, like, you know, really cool like pieces from the mountain or from Colorado. My grandbrother would go hunting every year and always bring me back this really cool turquoise and different crystals and stuff like that. So I wish I knew my first one because that would be really special. But I remember when I first started diving super deep into this kind of spiritual path, but I also simultaneously healing from PTSE and trauma. So I go to this place called Hidden Gym in Gulfgate. It's beautiful. There's another one in there called Wild Ginger. I'll send you all the things. You guys can go like crystal shopping tomorrow. Like be like um hopper. And they're all pretty close together too. So anyway, I go in and the guy that owns the place, he's amazing. He's super nice. He's like into his stuff, right? And I'm like, okay, this is all way over my head. I'm not understanding it. So I kind of just like felt pulled to tell him what was going on. And he's like, okay, let's create a grid for you for what you have going on. I'm like, all right, let's do it. So we, you know, I kind of kind of did what I do now, but with his guidance on like what feels right from what he suggested and whatnot. So I get home, I create this grid, not really having, you know, he he kind of gave me some information on how to do it. I just kind of intuitively did it, right? Yeah. And I put it, it was in our bedroom, my husband and I's bedroom. I did not sleep. I was like mega, like I literally felt like I was somewhere else. And I'm like, oh my God. And I'm a good sleeper. Like I am usually like a 10 to 6 a.m. I am out. Don't wake up. I mean, occasionally I'll wake up to go to the restroom, but usually not until almost when it's time to get up anyway. But so I am like a hardcore sleeper, not that night. I was like different level. I just I felt, I felt the energy around me. Like I felt like it was almost like it the whole room was vibrating. And it didn't occur to me at the time that that's why. So like two days later, and I remember walking into my bedroom and just kind of like being like that's what's it's like it's still like beaming, like you can just feel like it had this whole energy field around the crystal grid. Oh yeah. And I'm like, okay, I'm open to most things. I'm not ever one to be like, oh that that's crazy, or that's you know, I'm hey, you if you have experience with it, that's awesome. You know, I'm not one to ever discount anything, right? So I'm like, okay, there's something to all of this. I don't know what it is. And so after that is when I got really intrigued. But that was kind of my first intense, like crystal experience. But then just knowing um, you know, definitely use them for emotional support so much. Um, a lot of lapis for, you know, throat shock. I mean, I and now I know, and it's fun because my my kids love them too. So it's really special. And um, I don't know, it's just it's just something fun. Plus, my name's Crystal, so it's kind of fun. I feel like that's that's kind of on purpose. Um so yeah, just had to plug that in there because it popped up and I haven't thought about that forever. And I was like, gosh, I forget how intense that really was. Yeah. And I still have the grid. I don't I all the crystals are all over the place now, but I'm like, I still cut the little grid. And um, so yeah, that was my first super intense crystal movie. That's amazing. Yeah, it was fun. Kind of at the time. I mean, I think I probably had to catch them on sleep for a couple days, but so beyond the crystals, the energy work that you do. And I think there is something super magical and special about someone sharing their space with someone to do that. And I know you said most of yours is is virtual. Yes, usually it's over Zoom, yeah. Right. But I have I've had both. And I feel like as long as you're connecting with the practitioner, that is what matters. And you you can hold you understand that they are you can feel it. You know, you I I can feel it, but I don't know. Just finding the right person is important. Yeah, but just go with your intuition if you're looking for an on-time online practitioner or someone in person, you'll know the energy and the vibe is right. And I definitely apparently with you, we just hit off from the beginning. Maybe we've been friends in a different lifetime. But I was just like, okay, you want to come to my house and just sure my property? My husband's like, who's coming and what? You know, like don't worry, she's great.

SPEAKER_02

I'm sure she has crystal, are you sure? Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah you are so in tune with your sacral intuition. It's insane. I love it.

SPEAKER_03

So tell us about the energy work. How did you get into that? When was your first experience with that?

SPEAKER_05

Um, well, if we're talking receiving, then um that was several years ago at this point. It was actually shortly before COVID. So I think it was like February of 2020. Okay. Give or take.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_05

And um, I saw, you know, my Reiki master for the first time. And I really I didn't feel a lot because I have CPTSD too. And, you know, we get closed off lots and lots of walls and all the things. And but it was really interesting because in my very first session, she uh called in uh a neighbor of mine who had died a while ago. And she was the closest thing that I really had to someone who cared for me in the way caring nurture. Yeah, like really nurtured me. And um, like I just sat there and I cried and I cried and I cried. And honestly, it was embarrassing just how much came out. And uh so then, you know, I was embarrassed because I was very much in my masculine back then and just like cut off all contact with this person for like nine months. And I didn't go back until I guess that wasn't nine months. I I can't do math right now, but it was like September or something.

SPEAKER_03

I I have no concept of time. Yeah, I said a couple weeks ago and it's been like two years ago.

SPEAKER_05

So you know, yeah, and it's like time doesn't matter anymore, it's not real.

SPEAKER_03

It's an illusion.

First Crystal Grid and Energy Overload

SPEAKER_05

Exactly. It totally is. Oh man, did I feel it today? Um so I went back in September and then um I didn't ball my eyes out. That was nice. And I felt such a reduction in my pain because that was the main reason I was seeing her, is I have fibromyalgia and an inflammatory disorder and stuff. And so she really helped reduce my pain in a really serious kind of way. So I started seeing her once a week, and I think I saw her once a week for like two years. Um and at around the two-year mark, I decided to get my Reiki one certification. Actually, at her behest, uh, she was rather insistent about the whole thing. They can tell. Um and that was relatively uneventful. But then um actually the first time that I tried to do distance Reiki when I was doing my Reiki II certification, um it was when I discovered that I could do the whole astral Reiki thing. And so doing Reiki through my astral body instead of my physical body. Um, because I still haven't quite figured out how to do it through the physical body, if I'm perfectly honest. Really? Uh no, I mean, like, don't get me wrong, I can I can do Reiki through my physical body, but like to do the distance part, I find it so much more efficient to just leave and go over there.

SPEAKER_03

That's really interesting.

SPEAKER_05

Um I I just think it's stronger, it's more efficient, and I can play with more things that way. For you too.

SPEAKER_03

So thinking of like, you know, you mentioned the PTSE too, totally understand. But that's like it's safer for you to use the remote version. So it keeps you protected.

SPEAKER_05

Maybe I don't know. I've never really thought of it as particularly safe. Partially because of the work that I do there, like I have taken on some damage in in working with some of the things that I I work to get rid of. Yeah, it's like sometimes they fight back. So um, maybe it is though. Um yeah, maybe it is. Yeah, that's fair. Could be. In any case, it's very effective.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, well, inconvenient.

SPEAKER_05

And very convenient.

SPEAKER_03

I'm like, if anything, you're not like me. You don't live in your car driving around all the place. So you can do it from home, you can do it from wherever.

SPEAKER_05

Right. And Knoxville is not a super hotbed for spirituality. You know, there's not a lot of people who are into that kind of thing in Knoxville where I live.

SPEAKER_03

Well, welcome to Sarasota.

SPEAKER_05

Yes, the vibe is so different here.

SPEAKER_03

So awesome. We have all the things.

SPEAKER_02

You really do. We really do. It's a really cool spot.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Like I could probably open doors here and oh yeah, like I would totally have to. I wish you were here longer.

SPEAKER_03

I can't. Well, you'll just have to come back. I have a whole list of people that you have to meet and see and collaborate with and all the things. Yeah. That's gonna be so much fun. Yeah. Yes. I'm into it. Awesome. So tell us about the astral part. Like, what does that mean? I mean, I understand what it is, but to you know, someone who's never listened to this before, understood what this is, kind of explain what that means, what it feels like, what it means, um, kind of what the process is.

SPEAKER_05

Okay. Uh so astral projection is is the part that we're talking about, I assume, right? Okay. So that's uh a fairly simplistic process of leaving your body, like your soul or your consciousness leaving your body and going somewhere else. Um, so uh some people call it remote viewing. It's very similar, um, though there are slight differences, but we do it every night when we go to sleep. Um so it's it's a process that everybody partakes in every day, just about. Um we just call it dreaming. We just call it dreaming. And I think I think there is still some dreams that we have that's very clearly just your brain cleaning itself.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Um, but then there are others that are very obviously you leaving your body and going and hanging out somewhere else.

Distance Healing, Safety, and Fit

SPEAKER_03

I literally thought my girlfriend Nicole was running through my freaking house one night. Like literally. Like I she probably was. She was running through my house. And then we had a conversation. I think it was the next day, and she was like, I had this weird experience then. Like, and I'm like, oh my God, you really were running through my freaking house. She's like, my so I have this like trio, and we're like our group chat's magic. So we're like our all of our little, all of our woo-woo stuff we appreciate and do together. Um, but yeah, we still laugh about that sometimes. I uh it's interesting because sometimes I wake up and I'm exhausted. I'm like, I don't know where I went, I don't know what I did, but I'm so tired from whatever was going on. Like, and so I've had to really um, you know, how we when little kids, like how little kids will say their prayers, or people do different rituals at night before bed. So when tonight, or like now before bed, sometimes like to myself, I'll just do like a little like internal meditation, like almost like, you know, I'm just I'm grounding you in this space. I'm giving you permission to rest, your mind, your body, your soul. Like you need to, you know. Honestly, I feel like if I don't give myself that internal permission to rest, I'm all over the place. I don't necessarily recall it, but I just can tell when I wake up.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Because like I said, I'm a sound sleep, but there's no reason for me to wake up tired.

SPEAKER_05

There's a lot of work to do in the astral realm.

SPEAKER_03

So it's interesting that you say remote viewing because my husband did a podcast. He has a Matt Bell Limitless podcast, and he did a podcast with this guy that was hired to do remote viewing for the CIA. Um, and it was interesting because I went to dinner with them and the way he was explaining it, he was like, Well, I don't know, it's been so long now, but the way he was explaining it was like he could only do it for them or something. And I'm like, but why? Like you, if you can do it, you can do it. Right. So I was kind of confused by that. So tell us like what is the difference? What are kind of ways that like people can do it on their own intentionally? Like, how do you get into intentionally doing it?

SPEAKER_05

So um, intentionally doing it. That's an interesting uh, you know, for so long I did it on accident too. It's you know, part of CPSD man, that's a hard thing to say. C T S D. Thank you. CPTSD. Yeah, CPTSD. Yeah. Um, is you tend to disassociate. And so what you're doing is like you're half astral projecting. And so like your soul is just like hanging out up here somewhere, and you're down here. And so you tend to look at things from a higher perspective, like literally.

SPEAKER_03

Um it's really interesting. I never thought of it that way, but it makes a lot of sense.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. So a big part of my journey was actually getting back into my body and and like really figuring out how to not astral project all the time.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that too. And it's not even like you don't even put a name on that, but it's like getting into your body by feeling what's in your body. Yeah. And not being afraid to feel it. Because if you don't feel it, yeah, then you can't release it and you can't let it go. Right. Have you ever read the book Body Keeps Score?

SPEAKER_05

I have not, but I have had it suggested to me, I don't know, like a lot. And I should really listen at some point. Yeah. Um, manifest or we're not great at that. Um, but it's one of those, if you can actually get yourself into your body, it's a whole lot easier to get yourself out of it on purpose. So it helps to be super grounded and super centered and super in here. And then literally, if you want to go somewhere else, all you have to do is let go.

SPEAKER_03

Right. And I think that's what 99.99999 of people have a fear about. And that fear is like I would even say that they can't, but it's almost like, what is that? Or what does that even mean? You know, what does it mean to let go?

Astral Projection vs Remote Viewing

SPEAKER_05

Fair. And that fear is actually not unwarranted. Like the astral realms are not safe. Like there are a lot of people who say they are 100% safe, or uh, the other people who say they're 100% demonic. Neither one is true. Um, it's about as safe as the drive.

SPEAKER_03

There's light energy, there's dark energy, just like here. There's exactly conscious people and they're unconscious, there's ego, and then there are people living their authentic true self. You know, it's it's the same concept. It's just in a you can't see it. Exactly.

SPEAKER_05

So, like if you're not coming at your astral projection journey from like a really intentional and really high vibrational place, um, and sometimes even if you are um one asking for protection too.

SPEAKER_03

Exactly. Like I'm doing, I would like to leave and travel like with all love and light. Please guide me and protect me. And just like you would call in your guides, exactly, and you know, to protect you and support your angels or whatever it is you believe in. Like this isn't just like a spiritual practice. I think that what we're talking about, um, many other cultures do it in a different form.

SPEAKER_05

Right.

SPEAKER_03

You know, so it's like some people it's praying, some people it, you know, it's just it's just different.

SPEAKER_05

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

And I think that's the step that most people miss is the calling in of protection. Right. Because we know on like a visceral day uh on a visceral level that what we're about to do might be dangerous. Right. And so of course we stay in.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_05

You know, like it makes total sense to not want to leave. But if you actually do call in that protection and if you let that protection hold you, it suddenly gets roughly a million times easier to actually let go.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

I love that.

SPEAKER_03

I'm so excited for this retreat. I'm so excited. I'm so excited because I know the people coming and I know some people they're very in tune with all of this, and others are brand new. So I'm really interested to do that. We'll have to do a little survey afterwards to see how people because I think it's very eye-opening and it can be very freeing. And if anything, if anyone takes anything from this, it's not even, you know, about leaving your body necessarily. It's more about learning to let go. Right. And trusting that process. And that could, I mean, we could get into a whole four hour conversation on that.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. I do wonder if like the people who have trouble sleeping are the same people who would have trouble astral projection projecting because it's a similar letting go. Might be the resistance.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's a resistance to cutting off the monkey mind stuff, allowing that to, and of course, there's stuff out there that affects your sleep. But I, you know, I think that it but you know, I think it all kind of correlates. Like if you're doing things like alcohol, for example, affects your sleep. So it's like if because it shuts off that level of consciousness, and it lowers your vibration. Exactly. It's like, well, anyway.

SPEAKER_05

And so it makes you more susceptible to the dark energy.

SPEAKER_03

Exactly. Yeah. That's why, you know, the fights, the domestic violence, like all of that stuff. Like, yeah, it's really interesting how how different things out there, modalities, you know, like there's more things like psilocybin and stuff like that are a very different vibration.

SPEAKER_05

They are.

SPEAKER_03

Um yeah. So anyway, again, that's a whole other conversation. So which is really cool. I really need to get someone in on that one. Um, so yeah, tell us a little bit more about like, so how long have you been doing this?

SPEAKER_05

About five years. Okay. Give or take. I've been doing it like in business for a couple. Okay. Um, before that, it was just a lot.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. So yeah. So if people want to find you, if they want to um, you know, do sessions. I know I'm gonna have a ton of girlfriends that are like, oh my god, I have to see, I have to see her. Especially remote is so easy. Yes. And it's and she's legit. It's awesome. I am vouching for it and you know how I am about this stuff, you guys. Um, so yeah, and what other things do you offer? Like, what is your how are you expanding your practice and your energy and just kind of where do you see this going for you? Where is it and where do you see it kind of going for you?

SPEAKER_05

Okay, so right this minute, um, I have astral Reiki sessions that you can get. And I do crystal consultations also, um, which is super fun. Like I really love getting people like in a Zoom to really hash out, you know, how are you cleansing? How are you charging? How are you activating? What is your relationship like? It's so much fun. And, you know, then sometimes we get more advanced students who want to talk about grids, and that's super fun. It's really exciting. But I also offer human design readings. Oh, yes, love human design readings. Oh, I should have brought mine. Oh, you know, I have yours on my phone. Um, I don't know where my phone is, but I have it on my phone too. I know that you are a three-five sacral manifesting generator. Yes. And that is what I remember about your chart. Yes. Um, so tell us what does that mean? Okay. Um, so mangens, as I like to call them, because manifesting generator is like a mouthful. Um, you guys tend to have like a lot of energy.

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

SPEAKER_05

Spot on. And uh it tends to be going in multiple directions.

SPEAKER_01

Also spot on.

SPEAKER_05

At the same time.

SPEAKER_01

Also spot on.

Protection, Letting Go, and Sleep

SPEAKER_05

And that is that multiple directions at the same time. That's kind of the manifestor part because I have that too. I just don't have the sacral energy to back it up like you do. Um, so there's that aspect. And then if we go down to the sacral, then that is your authority. And that's kind of how you make decisions. That's why you felt comfortable inviting to me to your house after knowing me for three minutes. Your sacral just went, yes. And you just went with it.

SPEAKER_03

Partly intuition too, because I feel people.

SPEAKER_05

So and like the sacral, you know, that's like hanging out in your gut area. So it's very much an intuitive yes or no kind of thing. Yeah. So it's it's what you're responding to with your intention, which tends to be your sacral, which if I remember correctly, you also have a defined spleen, which is your intuition.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_05

And so they kind of work in conjunction with one another. Because I think they're connected. Yeah. I can't remember for sure, but I think they're connected. So like you would, like if you chose to tune into it, and you really have, um, you would just have like spot on intuition all the time. Yeah. So unless I block it. Right. I usually do. Yeah. I mean, obviously it's not gonna work if you block it.

SPEAKER_03

Sometimes I don't like to trust it. And every time I don't trust it, I I get recognition that I should trust it more.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. The brain always gets in the way. Yeah. Yeah, it does sometimes, and that's okay.

SPEAKER_03

It is. So, you know, it's we are having this human experience in the matrix of all things. So that's fun. It's so interesting because I just did I did that like I don't know, I guess like a year and a half ago. But I'd also done some things like I was telling you life languages, and I actually just did a podcast like two days ago with someone that also did human design, which is ironic because I totally at different times talked to you guys and it just came up again. So I'm like, this is cool.

SPEAKER_02

You clearly need to delve more into that. I apparently I do.

SPEAKER_03

Um, but it was also it was just confirmation for like the way I've always felt. Yeah. The way I've always moved, like I knew, like I think about it now. Like my daughter, and I should do her human design actually too. It might really help. I should do that while you're in town so you can talk to her about it. You should. Yes, I will do that. Um, yes, you will love her. She's but she, you know, she's in school right now, and I think she's much like myself when it comes to the energies around her. I don't know if she has the mechanisms and the just the consistency of protecting herself in high energetic environments. I mean, high school, did you think about high school? I mean, yeah, bless their hearts. Like teachers are burnt out, it's not their fault. The students are burnout, it's not their fault. Yeah, just so much. And it starts at like 7:30 a.m. And it's like, no, you know, which is ridiculous. I mean, well, I mean, scientifically, the adolescent brain, the teenage brain, doesn't really start working until about 9 a.m. Right. Anyway.

SPEAKER_05

So why are we sending them to school at 7:30? It doesn't make any sense. I mean, it's fine if you're seven, but not 17.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but even that, I'm like, I'm like a 9 a.m. person. Like 9 to 2. Well, I am an early morning person, but for kids, I feel like 9 a.m. is a great time for them to start. They can get up. I'm just like, I don't know, even with my kids, I like I feel like it's important to let people wake up on their own and wake up slow because that get up, get out of the line. Like, I feel like it's just so chaotic. It is. And it puts you in that instant fight or flight when it's like you have that rigidity first thing in the morning. Like, we're not supposed to do all that.

SPEAKER_05

We are not. We're not. We're supposed to get up when we feel like it and go to sleep when we feel like it. Right. And I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

I'm and live in a tree. Yeah, right. Hug them, hug all the trees.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know. I feel like I'm a circadian rhythm person. Like when the sun comes up, I'm wide awake. And when the sun goes down, I am out. Yeah. But I do have that 3 p.m., which I think is still my adrenals and cortisol, like that 3 p.m. Oh, I'm so exhausted.

SPEAKER_05

It still gets me too. Yeah. There's something about three o'clock. And it's like, okay, I'm done now. Yeah. It's interesting, right? I've always spelt.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. We'll have to look it more into that. See what my rhythms are.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. I can't remember whether or not you have root definition. And now I want to look. I'm gonna go get it. You talk about something fun.

SPEAKER_02

Let's talk. I'm getting it. Okay.

SPEAKER_05

Talk about something fun. We could talk about your three-five profile too.

SPEAKER_02

What does that mean?

SPEAKER_05

Okay. So your three-five profile is actually pretty intense. Like that's a hard profile to have.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

Um, because three, um, if you look at traditional human design, it's called the martyr heretic.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, that sounds familiar.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I imagine it does. So the thing about the martyr, fairly specifically, is it's all about experimentation. You do have root definition. Okay, that sacral doesn't connect the way that I thought it did. It connects over to your G Center. Do you have single definition? I think you do.

SPEAKER_03

No, no, I'm wrong. I have no idea what any of this means, but I'm learning.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, I'm sorry. I am no, I am gigging out for a second. No, it's perfect.

SPEAKER_03

So we're getting my just so clarify, you guys. Yes. She's reading my human design profile.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

So if others wanted to do this human design profile, what would the steps be to take?

SPEAKER_05

So you can uh you can just Google it. Uh my human design is a great place to start. Um, it's not like a super good place to stay.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

Five Years In: Offers and Services

SPEAKER_05

Um, but it'll give you a lot of the information that you need to get started. Okay. Um, but it's a good place to start. Okay. Uh after that, you probably want to move on over to Jovian archive, which is what this one is right here. Okay. And that gives you a little bit more uh closer to actual human design uh information. Okay. And um if you want to get really into the weeds, you can try genetic matrix or neutrino design, which neutrino design is my favorite. But all of that to say uh there's actually some places where you can get free readings on the internet.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

Um you just Google human design chart, it lots of stuff will be. Or they could come to you. Or they could come to me. Like that is totally an option. I forget that. I actually do offer human design readings.

SPEAKER_00

I'm like, isn't this what you do?

SPEAKER_05

Oh yeah, it is what I do.

SPEAKER_03

I love it.

SPEAKER_05

I did forget that for a second. Um, but I do offer human design readings as well. If you want to go like super high level, get the type strategy and authority, that three five uh sacral man gen thing that we're talking about. If you want to do that, I offer, you know, a foundational reading that we can cover all of that. But if you want to get really into the weeds with this, get your type strategy and authority and your like um I'm doing that next.

SPEAKER_03

That's step two, because that's not on there, right?

SPEAKER_05

Oh, type strategy and authority is definitely on here. Uh like this has all of the information. It's just you have to know how to read it.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. All right, so let's see. So what am I? Let me let's dissect my human design, you guys.

SPEAKER_05

Yes. Okay. So the martyr is really all about experimentation. Okay. And we were talking about the three-five profile before I read.

SPEAKER_03

So it's not like the martyr that sacrifices her life for everyone else?

SPEAKER_05

No, it is that too.

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Fuck.

SPEAKER_05

But in like a on bar, it's like a different way than you might think about it. So, what tends to happen is you learn by experimenting. So, what you're really trying to do is solve problems with experimentation. Yep. The five is solving problems, the three is experimentation. Okay. So when you're experimenting, you're gonna mess it up.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

You know, like that's gonna happen. And what tends to happen is that people don't like that. Um and that's that's kind of the crux.

SPEAKER_03

People that it happen to don't like that.

SPEAKER_05

People just don't like it when failure happens.

SPEAKER_03

Like oh, I embrace it. But you learn, that's how you grow.

SPEAKER_05

But you also don't.

SPEAKER_03

I also don't really believe in failure. Fair. Um, like I feel like it's a life lesson. And I love how new opportunity to understand a different perspective. Yes, exactly. Not everything is supposed to work out for you. No, what is supposed to work out for you will always happen. So you have to trust that if something doesn't work out, that's just holding space for something new. Exactly. So that's my philosophy on failure.

Live Human Design Read: Sacral Man-Gen

SPEAKER_05

And that is a remarkably healthy perspective for a three.

SPEAKER_03

Even in school, you know, you like you fail a test or something. So it doesn't matter. Like, this is such a small, like for me in school. Sorry, you guys, it is such a small percentage of med measuring like actual intelligence or capability or it doesn't mean it's always intrinsically new in school. Like, so what? I didn't memorize it or I didn't what whatever. It's all right. Because like it's not a big deal. But I also was really blessed that my parents didn't really care. I mean, I pushed myself and I make good grades and I went to college. I did all the, I mean, I checked all the boxes, I did all the stuff. But when I got to like anatomy and physiology and the body and human body and human health and behavior, that's when I dove in and I was all in. I was like, okay, this stuff I'm gonna use in my life. Yeah, but is it interesting the other stuff? I'm like, so what?

SPEAKER_05

Who cares? That's a remarkably healthy perspective. Most martyrs really succumb to the judgment.

SPEAKER_03

Um I mean, I was always pretty intense with self-judgment with others, yeah. Um yeah, mine, I think fear of judgment, you know. I've always kind of been like, who gives a crap what you think? But always been very rigid with myself. So I think that's where mine's a little different. You kind of just turned it on yourself in judgment than it is anyone else.

SPEAKER_05

All right, solid. Yeah. Um, so what typically happens is when uh you experiment with something and it goes awry, because experimentation does tend to go awry. Um because that's how experimentation works. What happens is people will judge that, and then uh they judge you for that. Okay, because you failed. Okay. And so like they tend to judge you very harshly, and that's the martyr thing.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

It's because you messed up, you you just need to go hang yourself. Like that's kind of the vibe uh that tends to come across with threes.

SPEAKER_03

And then when you combine that with So that's their personal perception, you're saying?

SPEAKER_05

Not necessarily, it's also the perception of others around too. Okay, that's what I was trying to do. Like somebody's wagging the finger at you, usually. Okay. And it's like, no, you did this wrong. Okay. That kind of thing.

SPEAKER_03

Like one person in my life that does that.

SPEAKER_05

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Um she'd be upset if I mentioned her. She got up on a different podcast, didn't go over too well.

SPEAKER_05

And see, that's amazing because the big thing with both threes and fives is they have to find people with patience and loving. Uh-huh. Uh, they need to be able to love themselves before they can really come in contact with you, because they have to come up at it from a loving perspective because you're going to experiment and it's going to go wrong, but you'll do it again and then you'll solve the problem at some point. Right. So uh yeah. And the I think the other half of that, because there's generally human design and then there's quantum human design, which is a Karen Curry Parker thing. And I really like using both, um, especially when it comes to the profile lines, because you've got the profile lines in regular human design, they're all just a little bit negative.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

But if you look at Karen Curry Parker and quantum human design, she really takes the light side of it. Okay. So, like in um for the three, you've got the martyr, but you've also got the explorer in quantum human design. So it's kind of the other way that that can go. And so when I heard you talking, I really heard you say, I have taken on this explorer mantle. And like I know that mistakes are going to happen in experimentation, and I refuse to let anyone judge me for that. I love that. Yeah, it's pretty cool. That solar plexus get into work. And you know, you have a wide open solar plexus. Like, you have so much empathy because the solar plexus in human design land is where we store our emotions. And so when you have an open solar plexus, like it comes with so much empathy.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

So emotional empathy. So yeah, makes total sense for you. Okay. Love that. Yeah. And then we've got the five. Um, and that five line in regular human design is called the heretic.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

And in quantum human design, it's called the fixer.

SPEAKER_03

Any word to his son's confirmation. Oh, that's fantastic. You have to meet Matt while you're here. Hello. Oh, I love every moment of that. It could have, it was funny. I didn't even think about it. Like it could have been like a dual purpose podcast. We'll have to talk to him about all this. But anyway.

SPEAKER_05

Oh my gosh, that's awesome. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I would have to come over and do a whole family human design.

SPEAKER_05

Okay. I can totally do that. Um, to fly me down here and and we'll totally make it a thing. So I do also do readings over Zoom. Like that is absolutely available. But the five, it's the five is really interesting because it's all about perspective and people's perspective on you and perception of you. So, what usually happens with the five is that someone will initially perceive you as just like the best thing since sliced bread. Just astounding and incredible and like you can do anything, you can fix anything. It's all perfect, right? Yeah. But then, and this is especially true for you because you've got the experimentation thing going on. But then you will fail to fix something.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

At some point, you will fail to fix something because you are human and you're a three. So you get it twice. Um and when you fail to fix that thing, that's when this other person's perspective of you shifts. And instead of you being the best thing ever, you're the worst thing ever. You're with the worst thing that they can think about themselves. Because it's all just them projecting themselves onto you.

SPEAKER_03

Right. Um, so I'm a trigger, I'm a trigger puller.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, you are.

SPEAKER_05

Yes. So whatever the worst thing they can think about themselves, they're going to think that about you.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

The 3/5 Profile: Explorer and Fixer

SPEAKER_05

Uh, which is why we have confidence then. Yes. But it's also super important. Yes. And you have surrounded yourself with people who love themselves. Right. So, yeah, they may think the worst thoughts about them or about you or themselves, but it doesn't really matter because it's fleeting for them. And they know that it's just a projection.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

So that's interesting. I love it. Anything else? So much. All right. We'll just do a couple more of you guys. This is really intriguing. And you guys are getting my first ever human design meeting live here.

SPEAKER_05

Okay. So um, you also have an undefined um heart center. And uh the heart center in human design is kind of where will lives. It's like your ego, your will, your drive to like determination. Yeah, that kind of vibe. So since yours is open, and this is negated somewhat by your defined psychral center, but there tends to be a sense of self-worth issues. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Like well, mine is like my work ethic. I actually just had this conversation earlier this week. The deepest, deepest, deepest, deepest, deepest, I think, condition, it's probably generational is your work ethic, is your worthiness. Yes. So it's like I internally feel like I have to work so hard to be worthy of anything. Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Everything.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. And like literally, uh I work more and do more now than I've ever had to in my entire life. And if we're just looking from a financial perspective or whatever, I don't have to do any of this. But I'm choosing to because I want to. But am I choosing to because I really want to, or am I choosing to because I feel somewhere deep down that I need to prove my worth? Exactly. And I think for me, I just I'm very blessed to have a lot of different buckets of beautiful opportunities, like providing resources to the community and providing, you know, these insights and this fun stuff from the podcast. You know, so I truly enjoy everything I do. So it's really been a deep dive, especially this week. I mean, this whole eclipse season has been no joke.

SPEAKER_05

I know, right?

SPEAKER_03

Um, but it's really bringing that up for me a lot. And I was thinking about that too. Um, Sunday is a solar eclipse. Yeah, I know. So we're gonna add that into the very end after projection. Let's do all journaling and about, yeah, I I came up with some stuff for that. Um, but that makes sense because it's absolutely worthiness. It's like constantly having to take myself out of like, okay, I'm in this situation, but I am in this situation because I genuinely want to be here or because I feel like I need to be here. Yes. Or am I doing this because I feel like I should do it, or because I'm intrinsic intrinsically want to do it. And do I feel like I should do it because I'm, you know, mom guilting myself or doing it to prove myself to someone? And it's all subconscious. You know, I would never consciously think, like, oh, I need to prove to so-and-so I can do this. I've always actually been very rebellious when it comes to that. Like, I don't give a fuck what you think. However, deep down, there's a, you know, something is fueling that part of it too. Yes. So it's been really interesting. It's been eye-opening, and I'm really gonna do a deeper dive actually at a warehouse. This place, I did a um podcast with them. I'm gonna work with the team there and really dive deep doing some like neural therapy stuff just to get rid of that. I feel like it's clogging me up a little bit.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I think that's a really good idea. I love that. And the shoulds, that's absolutely all tied to that undefined heart center.

SPEAKER_03

I was in the epitome of a shoulder.

SPEAKER_05

Well, and you know, you're not the only one. Like two-thirds of people have an undefined heart center. Mine is open. I recently realized that no matter what I'm doing, my brain thinks I should be doing something else. Like, even right now, I I don't know, I don't even know what it is that I should be doing right now, but probably not this, you know, because my brain's insane. And like it's just constantly doing that. Uh-huh. But my heart center is open. And so that is a thing that I am also working through.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

It's like, should I be doing this or should I let this go? And should is just such an evil little word.

SPEAKER_03

It is, but I think that just from my own personal experience, that's a product of it is overcoming the the um PTSD stuff. Yeah, it absolutely does get better in time. It does get much better in time. And you know, it has to catch it. The fact that you have awareness over it, you're already there, you know? Yeah. And that's just it. Um, just catching that stuff. And it's like, no, actually, it should be here right now. And I'm giving myself permission to do that.

SPEAKER_05

Exactly. This is exactly where I'm supposed to be right now. Exactly. So um awesome.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. This is fun. All right, give us two more little things.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, two more little things. Um, ooh, okay. So you've got the 214 channel. This is a really good channel. I love this channel. It's all about the allocation of resources. Oh. So, like, you really know what to do with stuff.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, this is freaking fun off for my life. That's my job. Like, I oh, is it? Yes.

SPEAKER_03

So I do community outreach, my community outreach coordinator. So I have like literally spent the fast four years providing resources. Oh my gosh. And you're so good at it. Around the world, but not only that, connecting other partners, like charitable partners together or people together. I feel like I've always been great at like connecting people. Yeah. Even like through this podcasting and meeting people, like I have like a whole list of people I'm sending you that you have to talk to in Sarasota and connect with. Um, but I feel like that's the whole kind of point of this podcast, too, is providing people opportunities and resources. And it's nothing about me. Like, yeah, I'm here to share my journey and hold space and you know, be like why words of wisdom or piss you off or whatever, whatever my podcast does for you. Hopefully, it's all the above sometimes. But the really the intention behind it is to provide resources for people. So I love that because it's always been like where I've felt heart led. Yeah. It's giving back and providing probably too a lot of like I needed a lot of resources at one point in time. So, you know, sure there's that to do with it too. Yeah. But it just kind of comes naturally. Like, I'll be in conversation. I have to shut my mind down and really be intentional about my listening because I'm like, oh, I should connect them with so-and-so and so-and-so and so. And I was like, stop, you're listening.

Worthiness, “Shoulds,” and Open Heart

SPEAKER_05

Like, yes. Listening. Yes. But I love that because it's um, I love that you said that it's heart led because this channel actually connects your G center up with your sacral.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

And so like your G center is really kind of where your sense of identity and like your soul really lives. Okay. So like that channel. Yes.

SPEAKER_03

Sorry, I couldn't talk. You said it like two days in a row. And I'm like, okay.

SPEAKER_05

So that's up here. It is. The G center's up here. It's nowhere close to your G spot. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Maybe it is. Maybe we're just trying to reach the soul.

SPEAKER_05

Maybe it is. I mean, everything is connected.

SPEAKER_02

So you know, it works.

SPEAKER_05

And this is connecting your G Center to your sacral. So there you go, you know. Kinda. Kinda. So, but I do love that because it's so heart-led and it's like just right up here and right with your soul. And like you're really in tune with that. That's beautiful. Awesome. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03

This has been amazing confirmation. Everyone, you need to get a human design.

SPEAKER_05

And I do have like a long version of this because you can't cover everything in an hour. Like, oh gosh, so yeah, I can get you your type strategy and authority in an hour. But like I have something called an integration journey that's actually seven or eight sessions long, but you just kind of take your time through it. Okay. And restore your website. Okay. Yes. Um, and you can really dive deep into it and get into all the nitty gritty.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, that's happening. I mean, I feel like I've just been so curious just by hearing a little bit of it today. And it's just it's really cool confirmation. Yeah. It really is. Now I'm like, I don't know. Can I send you everyone I know's stuff so I can get their human design so I know how to work with them better? No, I'm just officially gonna do this with my husband and my children for myself, so I understand them better. But it's just a really cool tool, right? So you take all of this with a grain of salt. Sure. And and know that it's just tools, right? It's tools to help us understand each other, understand ourselves. Um, for me, it's like great confirmation. And I think it's just so much fun. Yeah. Yeah, so much fun. And so it was kind of like out-of-the-box ways of, you know, I don't like to say identifying, but it's just like understanding there's so much more to us than what we know. So true. There's so much more to us than what we know. So we know, yes. Like it goes way beyond the here and now. It's just uh it's really beautiful. Yeah, sometimes it's a little crazy, but I but that's okay.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_03

Like that's what makes it interesting. Right. So if there's anything that you want our guests to like understand more, take with them, understand about you. Is there any way anything you want to throw out there to wrap this up?

SPEAKER_05

Um that's a really good question. And I really should have had an answer prepared.

SPEAKER_03

Whatever's meant to come will come. But that's okay.

SPEAKER_05

Um I I will give myself like a little warning um because working with me can be really triggering. So uh just because of the way my energy works, you know, I'm a five-one manifestor. Manifestors really like we kind of get in it and we do tend to trigger people just simply by being. So, like if you're not ready for that, that's okay. There's lots of other practitioners that you can see. Um, but if you feel like you're ready for a manifestor to initiate you and for a 5-1 to fix your life, not really. We don't actually fix your lives, you know that.

SPEAKER_03

Well, it's a guiding tool.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, exactly. Um, then understand. Yeah. Um, but it is helpful to have a little bit of spirituality already under your belt.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, absolutely. So yeah, I wouldn't start here. No.

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Maybe go get a crystal and cleanse it first. And then I am not the person you start with. So but I thought that's such a humble response though. And I love that, and I appreciate that. And I think that just speaks to your energy and your aura, and you're just, you know, I I appreciate it. I'm excited about this weekend. We will keep you posted. Have to maybe we'll have to do a session two sometime to let you know how the retreat went. But she is available at your abundant design. Yes. Um, and thank you so much for being here today, Scarlett. Thank you so much for pleasure. It was so much fun. And um, yeah, until next time.