Episode 145: A Year of Mystical Thinking: Finding Magic in Everyday Life with Emma Howarth

During my postpartum days, I found solace in Emma Howarth's book, A Year of Mystical Thinking, and I couldn't be more excited to have her as my guest on this episode. Imagine improving your life by exploring a different mystical or spiritual practice every month for a year – that is exactly what Emma did, and she shares her incredible journey with us.

We dive into Emma's book and discuss the importance of venturing into the mystical world.  Get ready to be inspired by Emma's insights and learn how to make your own life more magical!

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Chapters

• 0:01 Mystical Book Discussion for a Year
• 12:07 Exploring the Mystical World
• 23:51 Finding Magic in Everyday Life

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:01

Welcome to the Balance and Bliss podcast. I'm your host, andrea Mondu, a three-time published author, speaker and a lifestyle transformation coach who believes everyone should be given the gift of knowing how to live their lives feeling healthy and empowered. Things like moving your body regularly and feeling it well, taking care of your mind, setting boundaries, practicing self and body, acceptance, personal growth, manifestation and everything in between. This is not linear and it's not just one thing. It expands into so many areas and on this show we're going to talk about just that. We're all striving to live a little more healthy and a little more well, but what does that even mean? My goal is to help you see that you can move from the mundane to the magic when it comes to living aligned and fulfilled, and by tuning in each week you can be assured you'll leave with nuggets of wisdom that you can implement into your day to day, like right now, to help you maximize your health, wellness and your life. Now let's dive in. Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode.

Speaker 1: 1:13

I am so, so pumped for today, and I think the reason that I'm so excited is because when I read Emma's book, i felt like so connected to it. But so today we are joined by Emma Howard, and she is the author of A Year of Mystical Thinking, and so I have to tell you how I actually came across this book, which is kind of funny. And before I get into that story, though, this interview I feel like has been a little bit in the making. I was so excited when I was reading your book that I like immediately reached out to you like the second. I started reading it because I loved it And I was in the thick of early postpartum days And I'm like I really want to have you on the show, but I don't know when this baby is going to be napping, and there's a time difference, of course, because you're in the UK, and so it was like we've I've been waiting on this interview for a while to actually have the time, like to be able to book something that made sense for your time.

Speaker 2: 2:10

Yeah, i know it was a while ago, wasn't it Like last November or something?

Speaker 1: 2:14

Yeah yeah, it was So. Okay, I have to tell you how I found this book. I don't know about you, but, like as an author myself, i'm always curious how like people come across the books that I've written, because it's like, if you don't know me or if you're not in my circle, or that sort of thing, it's like how do you find it? So I was like very close to having my daughter And I was like, okay, i'm coming up to my maternity leave, i'm going to have all this free time to like free time. I'm using air quotes to like read And I wanted like a new book that I could read while I was, you know, in this new stage.

Speaker 1: 2:52

And so I'm wandering around my favorite part of indigo, which is like the spirituality area, and I saw your book and I looked the cover of it first of all just like drew me in. I was like this is so interesting And I'm like this is going to be the book. I read the back, i was like, oh yes, this is so good, this is going to be the book that I like use to kind of come out of that like postpartum in this new stage, because I'm, you know, as you know, being a mom yourself. You go through like these almost like rebirths, when you have a new person and you're like navigating a new family. So, yeah, anyway, it just it really really like spoke to me right away And well, as you know, I just I really enjoyed reading it.

Speaker 2: 3:34

So I would love if you would tell everybody who you are And and share with us like a little bit, yes, so as already beautifully introduced, my name's Emma Howard And I'm the author of A Year of Mystical Thinking, which is the book that you've just been talking about, which is a book I wrote.

Speaker 2: 3:54

Well, it's a book that actually started as a project that I undertook after a really bad year had kind of left me a sort of broken, exhausted rock bottom place, a place that I think we've all been at some point in our lives And I was just really looking to add a bit of magic back to my life after a really tricky time. So I decided that I was going to. Well, first I mean, the story goes back a bit further than that because at first I was like what I need is like to go on a spiritual journey, and obviously my first thought was like I'll book a flight and I'll go to Bali and I'll meditate on a beach for three months with a sunset backdrop, wearing, you know, matching yoga clothes. But then I remembered I had two kids and a job and a husband and like life had to carry on.

Speaker 2: 4:50

So basically, what I decided to do was my own sort of spiritual journey, but pretty much from the comfort of my own home, And if something was free or easy or you know, you didn't have to have lots of time available to make it happen. That's kind of what I did. So it's a very accessible book And what happens in the book is I set out to discover or rediscover a different mystical or spiritual practice every month for a year in a bid to make my life better. And yeah, it works. So that's the book. Another book coming out in September, which is an astrology almanac. I write full scale book on the magazine. That's really cool.

Speaker 2: 5:32

Yeah yeah, it's really cool. It's going to be a lovely book, so it's going to be a perfect, like Christmas present for anyone who's into astrology or just into nice, pretty books.

Speaker 1: 5:44

Definitely be sharing that.

Speaker 1: 5:46

I think that that's what I loved so much about this book because, you're right, most people and I see this a lot like with clients that I work with it's like they're feeling some sort of low, maybe they have hit a rock bottom moment and they're like I need to make a change And they feel like that change has to be like this big, huge, monumental shift that they make.

Speaker 1: 6:06

And oftentimes, when we like set out to do that, we fail because it's like such a big shift that we're trying to make And it's like it's really hard to shift everything all at once. And so I also really liked and maybe you can speak a little bit about this like this must be you as a person That's what I gathered from this book is you're very real in saying that you know I tried this and it felt weird And I wasn't really sure about this and this didn't work, and I thought you know, okay, i'd done this for three months and I have it all figured out. But then life happens, like throughout the book, you're very, very real when it comes to taking on a new journey and what that looked like for you.

Speaker 2: 6:44

Yeah, i mean, i think that was really important for me to do because, you know, i am just an ordinary person. You know like I'm a mother of two children And yeah, i'm very privileged, lucky mother of two children. He has a job that I can do from home. But ultimately, you know, modern life is busy and hectic and chaotic And if we wait for everything to be perfect for us to kind of find the magic in our world, we'll be waiting forever.

Speaker 2: 7:15

So what was really important to me throughout the book and throughout all my work really is to make things feel more accessible. So you know whether that's like you don't have to be young and living in a hipster city full of cool crystal shops to get into crystals, or whether that's you don't need to know every single thing about astrology to enjoy a little bit of astrology, and it's just about being flexible and really like trying to empower people to find the magic in their own lives. You know right where they already are, like amid the childcare, amid the fish fingers you're cooking for tea or whatever. Do you have fish fingers?

Speaker 1: 7:57

Yeah, big, yeah we do.

Speaker 2: 7:58

Yeah, Very like that's like felt like a British reference.

Speaker 1: 8:02

No, i mean we call them fish sticks, but it's like the same thing pretty well. Yeah, you know that's sort of yellow food.

Speaker 2: 8:10

Yeah, whatever you're doing, you know Mac and cheese. Yeah, we're not all like sort of making these beautiful flower stream smoothie bowls. Like, real life is real life, and so I'm very honest about that. In the book, you know, there's a whole chapter, the March chapter, where I'm like, oh, basically now I've got a spiritual to-do list and how can I really drill this down and turn things I'm doing anyway into magical rituals? So that's the chapter that people actually write to me the most about, because it's quite sort of.

Speaker 2: 8:45

You know, it can be quite like a light bulb moment really when you read that, because I'm like basically making magic spells by stirring my tea in the morning And, yeah, you know really simple things like having. You know I'm a Pisces, so I love a bath And so every time I have a bath, i visualize, you know, anything I'm going to let go of going down the drain at the end And simple practices. That's really it's. The thread that holds everything together, i think, is just realism. Keeping a bit of realism, because it's very easy to look at Instagram and see perfect images of perfect people doing perfect mystical spiritual things and moon rituals surrounded by expensive candles, and it doesn't have to be like that. You can have to have lots of money or lots of time to find some magic in your life.

Speaker 1: 9:38

Well, there was one part and I actually think that I shared this on Instagram and tagged you in it. When I was coming up with the intro for the season three of this show, i was like I want to, you know, i want to include manifestation and spirituality and all those sorts of pieces, because I think that those can be like really valuable anchors for people in their lives, especially when they're going through hardship. To, you know, have that to like lean on, but also, like you're saying, you know, to find these little like ways to make everyday kind of feel magical. And so one of the things I say in the intro is like you know, how can you take your life from the mundane to the magic? And so I like really connected with that. When I read that, i was like, see, the universe is telling me that I need to have this book, like on my path, and I remember I would love to hear a little bit more about, especially for people who are listening who maybe haven't read it yet, because you tell this one story in your book And I remember I remember I brought your book with me to.

Speaker 1: 10:40

We have a spa here, it's called the Scandinave Spa And it's like cold, plunging and like water therapy essentially. And then there's like hammocks outside. It's just like a beautiful place. I would live there if I could. And I brought the book and I'm laying on the hammock and I'm reading. And I was reading about the part where you had went to see the Reiki master and how she, like he, went with a friend of yours And it was like really like you're like what is this place that we're going to? And like can you tell everybody about that story? Because I loved reading that.

Speaker 2: 11:15

Yeah, i mean, that was that the Reiki master I went to see. I mean she is absolutely amazing, she's properly magical person. Yeah, i think I'd kind of like sort of I think I'd spoil myself. I've been at this point in the book. I've been quite a few like. I've been to like a sound bath in a really swanky hotel in London.

Speaker 2: 11:36

Yeah, and I kind of spoiled myself a bit and I kind of got to her house and I didn't really know what to expect. And then it was like a sort of a Reiki, like a massage table in like a garden shed.

Speaker 1: 11:50

And it was quite funny.

Speaker 2: 11:51

I was a bit like hold on a minute, like going in the garden shed of it, but yeah, but it was. It was amazing, i mean a totally amazing experience. And yeah, that experience actually made me want to learn Reiki myself. So, which is a kind of a thread that again runs through the book, that once you start kind of exploring the mystical world a little bit like it's a bit like a domino effect, like one thing will lead on to the next thing.

Speaker 2: 12:20

And yeah, a lot of question I get asked a lot is how do I find practitioners? How do I know who I can trust? How do I know who's good? And my answer is always just, you know. I mean, if you live near me, the list is in the book, but if not, just you know, find one person, like one recommendation, and then it will just dominate from there. So the next thing you know you're like, oh, maybe I'll learn Reiki, or that Reiki practitioner recommends you a really amazing sound bath and you go to that, and then that person recommends you a yoga class And the next thing you know you just you found all these amazing resources right, right in your local neighborhood, which is brilliant.

Speaker 1: 13:01

Yeah, and I think it's also important, like for people to remember too that not everything, like in the magical spiritual world, is going to resonate with you, nor does it have to right. Like you will intuitively be drawn to some things and some things you could leave, and that's okay. like you don't have to fully immerse yourself in everything and do all of the things. you can kind of just be like and I guess this, this comes back to just like listening to your heart and listening to your intuition, like when you try things. you know, oh, i like that, like maybe I could kind of pursue doing more of that. And you know, i tried this one thing I did a sound bath at, or I went to like a sound bath event, and I'd only been one time. So you know I think I need to go back again.

Speaker 1: 13:48

But when I was there, it was like 20 minutes of just laying down and listening And I it was actually really hard for me to just like lay there for 20 minutes. my brain was like all over the place And you know I was giving myself some grace of like okay, you know, let the mind wander and then bring it back. But I found myself going Oh my gosh, how much longer are we going to be laying here? for You know, and like it's, it was just, it was different than I thought it was going to be, but again, i feel like I need to try it again. But there's some things that will work and some things that won't, and I know that you found that as well. right, that, like, you tried some things and you're like I don't know, and then other things that you've continued to pursue, doing right?

Speaker 2: 14:30

Yeah, definitely I think. I think that's just true. You know of anything really, and there's no one right or wrong way to do anything either. So you know, say meditation, for example. You know there are lots of different ways to meditate and not all of them have to be the kind of 20 minutes at the beginning of the day and 20 minutes at the end of the day that we might think we should do. You know like a walk can be a meditation, like if you just mindfully put your phone in your pocket when you're doing the school run, if you walk on the school run or or whatever. You know the bit when your kids aren't with you. But you know things like that, like you can, you can turn anything into a meditation, into a meditation, and there's no right, there's no wrong. If it doesn't resonate with you, try something else, you know.

Speaker 2: 15:25

I just think it's really important for people to find their own path, because the other thing I try to try to sort of impress on people throughout the book is that it doesn't, it doesn't all have to come from external sources, either. A lot of it is just its internal work and it's your. It is that intuition and working out what you want and what makes you happy, and untangling the version of that which is partly influenced by society and the version of it that is really the truest version of it, like deep within you, because often they're completely different things. You know, it's very easy to think we want all these glamorous, materialistic, wonderful life experience things whatever they might be achievements, accolades But actually, when it really comes down to it and we really tune into what we really want out of life, it's usually something a little bit more simple and easy to make happen. So, yeah, there's something for everyone, i think, and it's just about finding what really works for you and what makes your life, your actual, real life here and now more magical for you.

Speaker 1: 18:53

So, and you can refresh my memory on this, When you came up with the book then cause you did each month you decided you were gonna pursue something different and you were gonna try out that thing this month, Like, did you plan for it to look like that Or did it kind of just naturally flow that way?

Speaker 1: 19:11

Cause I mean to read that in book format. It's like you said, it's really accessible, It's really easy to kind of take in, and it's almost like people could do that too pick a month and then pick a chapter and kind of work through that way. So how did that unfold?

Speaker 2: 19:25

I mean, i planned it that way, but I didn't plan it to be a book. It was always a personal project that I was doing because that's what I was interested in and because I genuinely was in such a bad place. I was trying to sort my life out, basically. So I always planned like, how you know, i didn't feel like I could commit to everything all at the same time, so it's like just one new thing a month and see what sticks.

Speaker 2: 19:51

You know, which felt like a very free way free and easy way of exploring things. So yeah, it was always going to be a month but you know, as the year evolved I would sort of switch things around. you know, i'd have an idea that I might explore something next month and something else would catch my eye, and yeah, but it's actually really good because it does work very well as a book. It does.

Speaker 1: 20:17

It does, and did you decide that you were going to put it into a book, like after your year was done or as you were? kind of rounding out the year where you like. I think people might enjoy this.

Speaker 2: 20:28

Yeah, i mean, i'm a writer, so I was all yeah. I was Instagramming about it and I was blogging about it, but I hadn't really thought about the idea that it might be a book. Really, while it was happening, people had said that to me and I've been like oh, for once in my life, i want to not be writing a book. Yeah, i want to not be writing like or turning it into work. It was a personal project for me.

Speaker 2: 20:52

Yeah, i think it's myself not for a work thing. But then the more people said, oh, you should turn that into a book, the more I kind of started working on the proposal. And I think I probably would have worked on the proposal forever and never got round to sending it to anyone. But then I kind of had like an intervention from the universe basically, which was during the pandemic And I'd been running these like full moon and new moon circles locally And someone who'd attended one of them had a brother who was a literary agent And he was looking for someone who could maybe write an astrology book, because he had a publisher who was looking for an astrology book. And so she introduced us.

Speaker 2: 21:40

And I think because it was in right in the middle of the pandemic and we were in lockdown, whereas normally I'd have been like quite busy and like doing lots of things I probably might have just let that slide. But this time I was like, well, i've got nothing better to do, right? I emailed him and I said, yeah, i can write you an astrology book. I write you a porous gates, a paper llama, and you know I've written travel guides Used to work, to climb out, like this is what I do. I can do this, but then I also just found myself writing and I also have this other idea for a book. At the bottom of the email, and within like a couple of hours we'd like had a conversation about it and he decided he was going to take it on.

Speaker 1: 22:17

So yeah, oh, and so that astrology book that you had originally talked about, is that the one that's coming out, this like, later this year?

Speaker 2: 22:25

Well, I suppose in a weird kind of way it's not the exact one, because this, yeah, this astrology book just kind of happens, but yeah, like it's gone full circle.

Speaker 1: 22:37

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 22:38

I have a liking of the astrology book, but, yeah, but not the one that he was looking for. It's a different one.

Speaker 1: 22:45

But again, it's funny how like the universe is always like it really is always at play and it's always working, and then it's giving you signs, right, provided that you are intuitively listening. So then, how, like you know, does your life look now You've got this new book coming out? You mentioned that you were running like full of new moon circles before. Like, what do things look like now for you?

Speaker 2: 23:15

So I mean I've spent a lot of time working on this astrology almanac. Like all of the ended last year and quite a lot at the beginning of this year was taken up with that, and now I'm kind of in it's publishing. It's a bit like having a baby, actually Like it does take a really long time to sort of jump date the book and then bring it into the world. So I'm kind of in that like planning the launch for the astrology almanac at the moment. But I'm also working on a proposal for what I hope will be the follow up to a year of mystical thinking.

Speaker 2: 23:51

And so, yeah, life is very much. Yeah, it's more in this book world, i guess, whereas before I was more in the journalism world, but it definitely there's still a lot of magic. So that's just the work life, but the magic life I mean, yeah, i'm still like obviously, but a vast majority of the practices I was exploring and rediscovering then are still a part of my everyday, which is very nice Not necessarily my everyday, because you can't be like doing all these things every day.

Speaker 1: 24:28

But yeah, I was recently on a podcast and one of the questions that she asked me was like, do you have a full moon ritual? And I was like, listen, I love the full moon, I love the moon. Do I have a full moon ritual every full moon? No, because sometimes things are happening, and same with the new moon, right, It's like sometimes I know we just had one Some things are happening and I just don't get around to doing it, but that's okay. It doesn't mean that it's like oh, I'm not somebody that doesn't. If you don't do the rituals all the time, then you're not the this person, right? It's like very much like where your life is at that day or what have you, and it can still be a part of you. Again, like you were saying that thread, like it can still be that thread. That's a part of who you are, even if things are a little bit busier in whatever season that you're in, and you can just be gentle and kind with yourself around that, right.

Speaker 2: 25:24

I think that's one of the most important things really. Yeah, i mean, i would say exactly the same. Like again, it's easy to fall into this sort of comparison trap where you see all these like beautiful rituals or it feels like everyone's at some fancy circle somewhere with like a flower man and a girl, and it doesn't have to be like that, like it can sometimes. I just I'd say I do a ritual every new moon and every four mean, but sometimes my ritual is like I'll just think the things that I want to call in as my head hits the pillow.

Speaker 1: 26:02

That's literally what I did the last one.

Speaker 2: 26:04

Yeah, that's enough. Like type it on the notes app of your phone, like write it down, you know, write down on a scrap of paper or on a bus ticket, i don't know. Like all of this stuff it does count. It's just for me, the sort of whole moon thing is really very much about what you just said. It's about that cyclical thing of knowing that you don't have to be full and bright and glowing all the time, like there's time to slow down and retreat and rethink and then start afresh, and it's like an ongoing cycle which is is magical. And yeah, these rituals can be as simple as just full moon. Go outside, look at the full moon, notice the full moon. That's enough, that's a full moon ritual.

Speaker 1: 26:51

You're like oh yeah, there it is. It looks beautiful. Okay, i'm going to go back inside now.

Speaker 2: 26:56

Yeah, maybe you look at it for two seconds longer than you would do otherwise. It's enough. It's enough. That's the thing We have to. Just, you know, take what we can and find our own ways to make magic that makes sense to us, that fit into our lives, and that doesn't mean like just sort of squeezing it all in, packing more in It does. It is really good to take some time to do something, to spend some time journaling, commit to going to a yoga class once a week, like these things are brilliant. But if you're in a live stage, like you are with a young baby, like, where you just need to like, maybe slowly work up to it, doesn't mean you have to forego everything because you're not in a position to take that half an hour right now.

Speaker 1: 27:45

Well, and I think that all of these practices really are just ways for you to like reconnect to yourself, right? So spending just a little bit of time journaling or those extra two seconds to look at the moon, like to just be in your body, to be in and with yourself, can be really powerful, because often a lot of us are on autopilot and we're in the busy and we're in the doing. We don't spend a lot of time tuning inward. And all of these like practices or rituals or moments that we can find magic in our day, allows for us to remember, to like tune inward and do a check on ourselves and get to know ourselves a little bit more. When we can start to understand ourselves a little bit more, it just it creates more ease. It doesn't make life easy, come on now, but it definitely creates more ease and in those, like we were saying earlier, like in those hard moments, then we can just like have something to connect to, to like reground us.

Speaker 2: 28:49

Yeah, definitely, i think that it's really the crux of all of it, isn't it? Just having finding ways to just to bring it back to what actually matters, like even just the simplest little, you know, that little ritual that a lot of people do when they're overwhelmed or feeling really anxious of just like, what can you see, what can you hear, what can you touch, what can you smell? Like just being present in the moment as it is is often enough. And yeah, i mean definitely, the March chapter of my book is really all about this, like about finding something that you do anyway, because we all have things that we do every day. And so say, you're someone who always does a three step skincare routine. Unfortunately, i'm not.

Speaker 2: 29:37

I wish I were There, you are, there are lots of people who are, so you do that anyway. You can turn that into into your ritual, like, say, you always apply makeup or dry champagne, whatever it is. You can turn anything into a ritual, like with me it's the cups of tea, because I drink endless tea. And or maybe you water plants in your garden and you can like really think about what seeds you're sowing, what you're watering, what you're bringing life to. While you need that, i talk to my plants. Yeah, i mean really find, find something you're doing anyway.

Speaker 2: 30:17

And the principle practices again in that chapter, like things like choosing a sign and that being your sign from the universe. That is, you know, takes no time at all. You decide what your sign is And I decided mine was going to be rainbows, and then you start noticing them and you'll see them and you can, you can sort of ask, you can be like am I doing the right thing? Am I on the right path? The next thing, you know you're scrolling Instagram and every post of rainbow in it And that's a really magical way to, you know, to sort of engage with something a bit unknown and otherworldly. That takes no time at all to I love that.

Speaker 1: 30:59

I love that. Find a sign. I was as you were speaking. I was just trying to think of what book I originally read that in. This was years ago. I want to say I think it was Gabrielle Bernstein.

Speaker 2: 31:10

Yes, i think it probably was, because that's what I read.

Speaker 1: 31:13

Yeah, the universe has your back, right.

Speaker 2: 31:15

Yeah, I was reading. The universe has your back and she was talking about how you choose a sign and I was like right, I'm going to choose a sign. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 31:23

So it's just, it's really cool and it can be so powerful, like mine is a dragonfly, and I can't tell you how many times where I've been like in my head about something And then all of a sudden I you know. One story that's coming to mind for me is I was really stressed about an event that I was coordinating when I worked for non for profits And I was doing errands and I slammed my hand like in a door as I was like leaving a business. And then I went to the bank and I was like kind of doing this with my hand and the teller was like, oh my gosh, like are you okay? This like lovely woman? And I was like, oh yeah, i just like slammed my hand in a door. It's fine, she's like I'm going to go get you some ice, which I thought was really kind of her. And she came back and as she's handing me the ice, she's wearing a bracelet that has a dragonfly on it. And I was like, oh my gosh, okay, like thank you, you know, like just just things like that. Like it's really like you said, it just allows for you to like know that you're being guided and supported and and all that stuff Totally unrelated, as this whole time we've been talking, i'm looking at your.

Speaker 1: 32:26

Is it a dress? Is it a shirt? I don't know what it is, but it's beautiful.

Speaker 2: 32:29

It's a dress. Yeah, it's so pretty. It's a really really old dress. that's like held together like a safety pin at the back. Oh well, it's beautiful, it's beautiful.

Speaker 1: 32:41

So where can people buy your book, and I will share where they can find you on Instagram, but can you share all that information with us before we wrap it up?

Speaker 2: 32:52

Yes, so I mean the books available. I think it's one of those all good bookstores type thing. It's definitely been published in America So you should be able to find it, you know, on Amazon and what's your big bookshop there? Amazon's Noble is that.

Speaker 1: 33:08

Oh, i'm in Canada, so we're, we're, i am. Do you have Bonson able in Canada? We don't, but we have like Indigo and Indigo. Yeah, indigo, books and Walmart.

Speaker 2: 33:21

It's the boarders starting Canada.

Speaker 1: 33:22

Pardon me, it's the boarders bookshop starting Canada?

Speaker 2: 33:24

I don't think so. It doesn't ring a bell to me. No, anyway, wherever, wherever.

Speaker 1: 33:27

Canada's big, big shop is Perfect. I'm sure you can get it there.

Speaker 2: 33:37

And definitely like places you know, like Amazon. I know we don't, we don't all like Amazon, Yeah.

Speaker 1: 33:43

You know what It's convenient Like there. there are some really like for us. for example, like I just keep ordering formula on there because like I'm like looking at the jar or at the container and I'm like, oh my gosh, we're almost out And I just use Amazon and it comes the next day and it's really lovely.

Speaker 2: 33:58

So there's you know, be that earlier with a mop.

Speaker 1: 34:04

Listen, we all do it. It's fine, But I will link it in the show notes for people too. And then you're on Instagram, yeah, so Emma Howard writes.

Speaker 2: 34:14

Yeah, and I did mean to me to leave out the Southern hemisphere either. Like I think the book is also been published in Australia, that's all So. So you should be able to find it, definitely. I mean, i'm a Canadian, definitely America, australia, so you should. It should be pretty easy to find. If it's not, find me on Instagram And I'll find a way to get it to you.

Speaker 1: 34:37

That's beautiful. Well, i am just like so grateful for your time And I just like I said I I'm a big fan of the book and I am going to be watching for that Almanac to come out and get a coffee over to get in love, okay.

Speaker 1: 34:56

Listen, i am in the process of writing a book proposal right now for my next solo book And it's it's no, like it's not an easy feat to make sure that you have enough in there that when you're going to go take it to publishers, they're going to one understand what your brain baby is about and have it on paper and and present it in a way that's going to make people go. Oh yeah, i would. I'd like to pick that up.

Speaker 2: 35:18

So I commend you for the time it takes And I know how exciting it is when it's like finally coming, you know, yeah definitely I, you know I really, since I've like gone through the process of writing a book, i'm literally like anyone who's written a book, like respect, i'm almost like I don't think you should be allowed to write bad reviews of books until you've written one yourself.

Speaker 1: 35:44

Yeah, it's like years, it's years in the making.

Speaker 2: 35:48

Yeah, and you just kind of now I just think, well, not everything's for everyone, but like, yeah, i, i would never. I mean, I've never been the kind of person who's write a bad review anyway, but I would never write a bad review for a book now.

Speaker 1: 36:03

It's so true. It's like it's some, it's someone's baby, like you said earlier.

Speaker 2: 36:07

So thank you for sharing your baby with us.

Speaker 1: 36:09

Yeah, okay, well, enjoy the rest of your day and everybody. Thank you so much for listening. Go buy a book. Go to the show notes, find it, And we'll catch you next week. Thanks, emma. Thank you for having me. You're very welcome. Thanks so much for being here. I hope you're leaving with a full heart, some inspiration, or you're feeling the kick in the butt you felt like you needed. If you really enjoyed this episode, be sure to share it with a friend or let me know Rates, reviews, subscribing and sharing are all great ways to support the show And if you want to stay in touch, follow me over on Instagram at thebalancebless. Thanks for listening today and stay well.