EP #80 - Content Creator & Filmmaker - PK Hectic

PK is back! PK is a content creator and filmmaker from Auckland NZ. We chat about his brand-new podcast Film Street, his new film Rider Austin and Scarlett Austin, viral moments, movie premiers, social media, we get into his role in the Auckland wrestling scene, and why he decided to call it quits on his last podcast.

Apologies for the annoying intermittent drilling sound in the background; my neighbour started doing this literally as I started the podcast, and I could not do anything about it. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

And I'm back here with PK Hector.

SPEAKER_01 0:04

Yo, what's up?

SPEAKER_00 0:05

How's it going? Filmmaker, content creator, director. Welcome back. Thank you so much for having me again. Hey bro, all good. My man's butt, he's been blowing up since uh since you were last on here, you know? He's getting famous. He's out there influencing changing it up. Trying new, trying new things, yeah. Nah, that's cool, bro. Yeah, it's been fun to watch your um to like watch your journey and like see uh see like how it's like you've been working really hard for ages with content.

SPEAKER_01 0:34

Well, likewise, likewise, 100%.

SPEAKER_00 0:36

Yeah, but like you do more. I think you got more channels, you do more stuff. Uh, and then to see now, like it kind of pay off a little, like a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 0:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:44

Because you're uploading like every day as well on the Instagram, YouTube, TikTok. You got your you know, the PK Hectic channel, you got the production stuff. So yeah, it's kind of uh yeah, all over the show, really.

SPEAKER_01 0:55

No, I appreciate that. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 0:56

No, all good, all good. Um yeah, I've just decided now. I've I've been trying out this gate on my audio, and uh nah, we're gonna turn it off. I realize that uh it's uh making the audio sound weird. Anyway, we're gonna come back in. Um so yeah, sweet. So, bro, you gotta tell me about this movie coming up.

SPEAKER_01 1:16

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:16

On the big screen.

SPEAKER_01 1:18

Yeah, yeah, November 16th.

SPEAKER_00 1:20

Ryder Austen and Scarlett Austen.

SPEAKER_01 1:22

Yeah, Ryder Austin, Scarlet Austen. So it's uh it's a movie I made with well, in real life, she's my little cousin in the movie She's My Daughter. Pretty much the story is about Ryder Austin, who he's a dad, and his partner, uh, her name's Renee. She died moments after giving birth to Scarlett, so now Ryder is here with this baby who no experience of being a dad, has no idea what he's doing, has to raise her, and eventually, you know, he he gets there in the end, um, but he's got a past of working with the government, and his past comes back to haunt him and his daughter. So it's a fun little I guess you could say a little spy movie at the same time, but more importantly, it's it's about the heart of Ryder and Scarlet and the dad and the daughter, and it's it's got some really nice moments into it. Yeah, I can't wait to to put it on the big screen this November.

SPEAKER_00 2:19

That's exciting, but also putting on the big screen. That's also like crazy.

SPEAKER_01 2:22

I know, and uh I think you just filmed a cameo for it as well.

SPEAKER_00 2:26

Did I? Did I not? Will I be in it? Am I famous now? Do I get to be an influence too?

SPEAKER_01 2:31

So yeah, well, you'll have to come to the premiere as well, 100%.

SPEAKER_00 2:34

I'd love to, I'd love to.

SPEAKER_01 2:35

Tickets are out. It's in the link in my bio, PK Hectic. Let's go. So buy my tickets so I can pay my rent.

SPEAKER_00 2:42

There you go. Promo code for OnlyScott listeners, maybe?

SPEAKER_01 2:46

Probably could actually. You could. Actually, I probably I could do that. We'll talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 2:49

We'll talk about it. That's good. So, alright, got that movie going. What was uh so how long did it take to get it to, you know, finished product? How long did it take you? The thing is from beginning inception to where it is now.

SPEAKER_01 3:01

Well, technically this is like the 14th film that I've made. This is the 14th time I've played Ryder Austin. So I first played him back in 2016 when I was 15 years old. I've made stories about when he was a teenager, when he was 10 years old, when he's an adult, now I'm doing one as a dad. So it's been a nice long journey. What's nice about this one is you don't have to watch anything beforehand to understand it, which is good. But I came up with this idea I gotta say end of 2023. I think. We put a movie and cinemas last year in March, and I think that's when the script was complete. And we've done little tweaks and stuff to it, uh, but we've been filming it since March last year. Um, in Paris in London, which was really cool, that's where we started. So I'd say about since almost two years. Is that math right?

SPEAKER_00 3:56

And in 2023, we're we're we're in like the mid-end of the 2025.

SPEAKER_01 4:01

Almost two years. Almost two years, yeah. But it's been good. Been fun. So I love filming with Maddie. I love my little cousin that plays Scarlet. She's awesome. First time she's ever acted, and she's so good.

SPEAKER_00 4:11

Do you reckon she'll want to keep doing it afterwards?

SPEAKER_01 4:13

Hopefully, because I've got a trilogy planned. So hopefully.

SPEAKER_00 4:17

Got that family free labor. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I promise it's exposure, exposure. Exactly, exactly. That's it. Well, that's what family's for. Uh, you know, what can be for. Alright, mean. So do you because you are directing it and you're acting in it. Is that hard to swap the hats?

SPEAKER_01 4:35

No, it's pretty easy. Pretty easy, you find it. I mean, like so writing and directing, you mean?

SPEAKER_00 4:40

Well, well, I mean, you while you're on site and you are filming, you have to be in character, but at the same time, you gotta you know, you gotta look at the way the cameras are, you gotta look at the lighting, you gotta look at all the like the other aspects.

SPEAKER_01 4:53

I think because of the last 14 movies I've done that, it's gotten a lot easier, and I think it's good having a team. I gotta give a massive shout out to to Tony, who's also in this movie, um, and he's he's been by my side watching the script, reading the script, and giving in some notes. And it's not too hard, it's pretty easy. Like it it's it's like when we film, it's like four or five people on several just having fun with our cameras. Something doesn't work, someone will say something, can pitch in an idea. It's it's been pretty good. It's been very it's just a group of mates. Yeah, put it that way, it's a group of mates making a little project, really, making it the best we can.

SPEAKER_00 5:29

That's how it starts. Yeah, that's fun.

SPEAKER_01 5:32

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 5:33

I recently went to like one of those Wetter Workshop uh at like uh in town at Auckland at like the Sky City Convention Center. They had like they had like the Wetter Workshop and they had like made like these pretend movies, but then they like show you how they do all their props and make it special. That's pretty cool, bro. Wait, do they do that like regularly or it's been around probably there for about a year? So yeah, you should go check it out.

SPEAKER_01 5:54

Like every week they do something like that?

SPEAKER_00 5:56

Yeah, I think you can do like tours, yeah. Well we did we we did a tour, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:00

I want to check that out.

SPEAKER_00 6:00

Yeah, yeah, I think you'd really get a kick out of it. But it's interesting like how they make all their props and then you know, all the detail if you love makeup and film and costumes and just all the like quirky things that they do and the materials they used, and it's really interesting.

SPEAKER_01 6:16

Is it like Hobbiton? Have you been to Hobbiton? I've never been to Hobbiton. Is that kind of similar? Like they have workshops and stuff there too, right?

SPEAKER_00 6:21

I think so. I'd imagine it's similar.

SPEAKER_01 6:23

I've never been.

SPEAKER_00 6:24

But uh oh, yeah, so it's it's and you can also make your own set. You know what's something buzzy? I didn't know with special effects, guys. They that in order to create some crazy scenes with like fantasy scenes and like castles and all that stuff, because it's all like CGI'd and that, but they make them out of tinfoil. Have you seen it? No, what that's crazy. So like they like use like all these like tinfoil um like models and things like that, and that even I made one.

SPEAKER_01 6:50

Oh, yeah, or at the workshop.

SPEAKER_00 6:52

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you make your own like tinfoil set.

SPEAKER_01 6:54

Oh, that's sick.

SPEAKER_00 6:55

Yeah, and you like painter and like colour and everything. That's kind of like and it's really it's really crazy. I was like, really, tinfoil? Like that's how you make it.

SPEAKER_01 7:02

You wouldn't expect it. I did not expect that. It's like clay. They make like my favourite one of my favorite studios is Ardman. You know, they make uh Wallace and Gromit. You know Wallace and Gromet? Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, of course. I love that the the stop motion clay. I love that type of filmmaking. It's so good. You know, like they um is that kind of similar? Not the stop motion, but like how they make the sets.

SPEAKER_00 7:23

Yeah, I would imagine uh yeah, because this was really focusing on like you the seed, like kind of yeah, creating it was it that like I think they did some clay modeling for the characters, but it was mainly focusing on like the sets.

SPEAKER_01 7:34

The sets, the buildings in that. Building the set. Tenfoil, eh?

SPEAKER_00 7:39

Yeah, that's out of it, right?

SPEAKER_01 7:40

I'm gonna have a look at that.

SPEAKER_00 7:42

Yeah, bro. No, it's it's uh yeah, there's so much that goes into like I I for myself I've only done uh I did like a bit of venue managing down at Shed Ted in the Cloud years ago, and I remember like working on some film sets and seeing all the stuff they're doing. I'm like, uh, screw that. Yeah, it's all so much work and like it's so intense as well. I mean having fun, but it's just like the budgets and then how much time you've got, and then it's so um full on, and you're doing like 16, 18 hour days, you know.

SPEAKER_01 8:10

Sounds fun when you hear about it, but then you see it.

SPEAKER_00 8:12

Yeah, and you're like so crazy. How do they make all this stuff? And it's like with a fuckload of hard work. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:18

I forgot, I can swear on this eh.

SPEAKER_00 8:20

Yeah, you can swear away. Swear away. This isn't a PG podcast, bro. Okay, so um, but yeah, no, that's uh that's cool, bro. That you're doing all that shit for the yeah, for the film and that and you're getting to theatres as well. Like that's like Yeah, it's actually supposedly easy. So you just pitch it to them, or do you just even pitch it to them?

SPEAKER_01 8:37

You just book it really. You just book it. Like, I want to air put them, put my put this movie on, and they're just like like it uh you gotta give them a good like advanced, like a lot of notice, sure. Yeah, like um notice, that's the word. Like it's very easy to like Realto cinemas. I emailed them about it in November last year, and they said, Yeah, easy, sweet. Um, anybody can do it, you just gotta give them enough time, obviously. Uh they do it all the time. I didn't really realise this. Academy cinemas, Rialto, they do it all the time. You just book them, tell them you want to premiere a little film, sometimes it's like a student 25-minute short film, and that they'll accommodate you. Yeah, it's been a lot of emails back and forth just because there's a lot of things that I want at the event, like I want it to be an actual red carpet, there'll be like a QA and all that. So I have to go back and forth with them, but yeah, so easy to I recommend like if someone wants to put a film in in cinemas, just send that email. That's easy as that. That's cool. It's expensive though. You need money.

SPEAKER_00 9:38

I'm not gonna there's the catch.

SPEAKER_01 9:39

That's the catch, it's expensive. Yeah, it's not cheap. But you know, if you sell tickets, you might make the money back. I mean, well, how much I've spent making the movie and just to putting it in cinemas, uh, even if we do sell out, we're not making our money back.

SPEAKER_00 9:56

It's for the love.

SPEAKER_01 9:57

Yeah, all for the love.

SPEAKER_00 9:58

All for the love. Like most of it.

SPEAKER_01 10:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:00

Alright. Um, I want to say also, speaking on the still on the movie subject as well, I've seen you've been going to like a lot of like movie premieres. Yeah, yeah. And I've seen all like, you know, put up little videos of it, uh, it's all really fun stuff. So I'm just wondering, do you get asked to do that, or do you just turn up and you just take, you know, some videos and photos and things like that? How does that work? And this episode is sponsored by me. Do you struggle with sleeping and particularly struggle with light and sound while sleeping? I think it's time you get the sleep that you deserve. My business Infinity Sleep specializes in sleep well-being products to enhance your sleep quality. I've been using sleep masks and airplugs for the past three years to help improve my sleep, and I'm so stoked to finally have ones that have been created for my own sleeping needs. If you would like to learn more about my business, Infinity Sleep, please visit our website www.infinitysleep.co dot nz. By making a purchase, you are directly not only supporting a local Kiwi business, but also this podcast. Use the promo code only scot fifteen percent and receive fifteen percent off your first order. Go to w dot infinitysleep.co dot nz to get the sleep that you deserve.

SPEAKER_01 11:10

So it's it's um I personally haven't like been personally invited to any of those yet. Like there have been companies in America that have sent me movies early for like a sharing link to watch early. So I I do some videos on that. But it's it's mainly my friend uh Winwolf, right, who I've just started a movie podcast with. So he gets uh like on a on a he gets invited and he's obviously got plus ones. So he brings us along and I I learn a lot from him. I learn a lot from Wynne because he'll give me tips at the events, you know. He'll be like, you know, there'll be some people at their event introduce yourself as a content creator. You know, he's always giving me shout out to Wynne because I don't think I'd be who I am today without Wynne. So he's a real good friend of mine. I really appreciate him, but yeah, it's uh he brings us all along. Um sometimes O'Shea Murphy invited me to a couple as well. Yeah, and they're just great friends that all bring me in invited, uh invite me to stuff. Sometimes I get invited to things that not specifically movie premieres, but um get invited to do other little cool events and that. It's just fun, you know. We go there, there's a little red carpet, sometimes there's no red carpet at all. Take some cool photos. Um sometimes we try to make some little videos there and push them out, and it's really fun just getting to watch the movies early. That's the main big thing. Because yeah, it's it's because I'm a big um You're a movie buff. I'm a big movie guy. Uh as much as winners as well. That's why we started a podcast together.

SPEAKER_00 12:37

Yeah, I've seen some clips you guys have been putting out, that's fun.

SPEAKER_01 12:39

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we just started that episode. The first episode just came out yesterday. But yeah, yeah, just it's fun, it's very fun events. Get to meet some cool people there.

SPEAKER_00 12:49

Awesome. So while we're on the subject of also the podcast, what happened with your last one that I that even I was on? It's gone. Oh, it's not gone. Like it's not yeah, we're right, it's yeah and gone. There's PK's gone.

SPEAKER_01 13:01

There's a hmm. There's a there's there's a lot of reasons why I'm you've been doing it for ages as well, though. Yeah, I mean, there's I could list so many reasons why I'm not doing it anymore. The main reason is I would say burnout. So we started it in the end of 2022, did it with my my friend, and it was it was fun. I mean, we made it to what episode 92 or something before we stopped, and it was good fun. Genuinely, we I met so many great people. That's how I met Wynne, O'Shea, Charlie Gallagher. You no, no, you invited no. Did I meet you? No, I did your podcast first.

SPEAKER_00 13:41

Yeah, I brought I brought you on. Oh, that's right. I did your podcast. That was from um uh Anthony, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 13:46

Yeah, and then you came on Antoine. Yeah, he did my podcast. I met so many great people on that podcast. Um met Peyton Moretti, who's now in my movie, but it it was just it was just too much for me, to be honest. I think like it's just burnout.

SPEAKER_00 14:00

It wasn't a priority anymore, you felt yeah, it wasn't a priority anymore.

SPEAKER_01 14:04

I I think I started this maybe six months ago, it kind of started where I was just like, I'm not happy doing this anymore. Like, instead of it being a cool passion project, I felt like a chore where I had to like like some days I really just didn't want to go to the studio and record. I just didn't feel like it, did not feel like sitting in front of a camera and and having a podcast. There was I feel bad, but there's so many clips in the last three months of me on the podcast where I'm just like this and I don't even mean to. I I it's just I just face yeah, respectfully, I just didn't want to be there anymore. It wasn't a passion for me anymore. So I I told my co-host that I'm probably gonna try, step away, take a break from it for a little bit, and I took a break for a month or so, and and then Wynne came to me for an idea for a podcast to do on just movies, and I feel like that might have been a bit of nice refresh for me. Right. Because instead of having so many different people on, so many great people on, it was more of like one subject, you know, it was it was a one subject which was movies, and I think maybe that's what was lacking for me was there was just so much conversation going on, and I didn't want to be there, I was too tired, so I thought new podcasts on just movies could be quite fun. So now I've kind of restarted with Wynn. There's uh uh Jamie has told me that he wants to keep doing the year alright though. He hasn't started yet. I think he he's taking like a little hiatus, but I believe that he'll he'll be back eventually and he'll keep doing the year right podcast himself, which I really I I hope he does. I hope he smashes it.

SPEAKER_00 15:42

Well, it's been growing, you've been guys doing it for so long.

SPEAKER_01 15:44

Yeah, it'd be a shame just to because when we when we started, it was a passion project. When we started, it was like a solid idea that he came up with, he brought to me. It was such a cool idea. We did it, had so much fun, and it's just like you know, when you do something for so long and you feel like you're not getting anything out of it anymore, and it was so much editing. I had to edit it, do all the social media and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 16:05

You were having crazy editings every week, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:08

And like, no disrespect to Jamie, but I did all the editing and social media and that, it was my choice, so no disrespect to him. I chose to do that because I love it, but yeah, it was it just got too hard.

SPEAKER_00 16:20

Yeah, the editing is the part of the podcast as well for me where I'm like Yeah. It's just sometimes you're just like it'd be nice if there was someone else. Yeah, but um, no one does that for free.

SPEAKER_01 16:29

So sometimes you just you just do something for so long, you just need a break from it.

SPEAKER_00 16:33

Oh, yeah, for sure, for sure. But I mean, yeah, I know what you mean. I totally, I totally understand. Yeah, just burn out, but at least it wasn't like yeah, left on bad blood or anything like that. No, no, no. How many episodes by the end? Is a hundred?

SPEAKER_01 16:45

This is the thing that annoys me. We were so close to a hundred, and then when we got to like 95 or whatever, I just gapped. I wish I could have stayed for at least five more. Just to get to a hundred, you know.

SPEAKER_00 16:55

Yeah, you made it to a hundred. See you.

SPEAKER_01 16:56

It's still on Spotify and YouTube, so like I can it's it's nice to have it there still and go back and yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:02

Yeah, it's kind of like a um CV almost of things you've done, you know. Like you've done a podcast for this long, you know, got a new one.

SPEAKER_01 17:09

I mean not everything lasts forever, you know. No, you all want to switch up and try something different.

SPEAKER_00 17:14

Well, it just depends if it's giving anything to you.

SPEAKER_01 17:16

Exactly. It depends, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:18

And how much is it gonna give you? You know, it's uh you know, with these things and uh doing podcasts or movies or music or anything, or even becoming an athlete for a long time, dinner money. And that's obviously the decision that people creatives and you know people who want to go after these passions have to take.

SPEAKER_01 17:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:36

But it means that you know, you really get tested, like, is it you wanna do this? Yeah. Like you have to really make uh make a judgment call there, like I don't care. Um I love it for it.

SPEAKER_01 17:46

If it seems like a chore, do you still want to keep doing?

SPEAKER_00 17:49

Yeah, if it feels like a chore all the time, like all the time. I've it's always gonna feel like maybe 20%, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_01 17:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:57

It's always gonna be that bit where you're like, oh, but if you as soon as you get there, you're like, yeah, this is great, you know?

SPEAKER_01 18:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:02

Um, but then if it's all like suddenly like the fun is like minuscule 20% and this 80% of it's a chore, then you gotta call it. You're wasting your time and everyone else's. And also if everyone else has invested in it and you're not, then you're kind of like bringing down everyone else as well.

SPEAKER_01 18:20

Yeah, that was the one thing is there were a lot of people that even messaged me saying that they were a bit disappointed.

SPEAKER_00 18:25

Oh, they were?

SPEAKER_01 18:26

They were not less like like four messages maybe from people saying that they were like a little bit disappointed. Yeah, and I understand. They were disappointed that you left. Yeah, because just just because I left, they weren't upset because I left, they were upset because there's no episodes anymore because of that, because I've left, pretty much. I'm not that I'm not that cool. Nobody's upset because I left. They're upset that there's no podcast episodes anymore.

SPEAKER_00 18:49

I see, but there will be.

SPEAKER_01 18:50

But they will be with Jamie, exactly. I I say that to people. Like they they will be, you know, but it'll just be a solo with Jamie, so he's taking full control of all the social media, so whatever he does with it, I'm I'm sure he'll smash it.

SPEAKER_00 19:01

Yeah, he's got a good template to work off, I guess. Yeah, you know, what you've been doing.

SPEAKER_01 19:04

He's got that we he we've we've built the foundation together. I've gone off and done something else. Now he just needs to keep building off that foundation, pretty much.

SPEAKER_00 19:11

Hell yeah. Oh well, at least you've got something more, yeah, going to more of what you want to do, more things you're passionate about. Speaking of other passions, you've been in the wrestling scene.

SPEAKER_01 19:19

Oh, I've I've been excited for this conversation.

SPEAKER_00 19:21

You've been uh doing a lot of it's like New Zealand WWE, you know? It's like it is, it's our serious thing. It's our version of it. And um it's interesting as well because in like in the um I I remember the first conversation I had with someone about the summer's podcast with a guy called Ben Ruig, and he would ref uh some of these competitions.

SPEAKER_01 19:39

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:39

And then I had another I've had a few bands on here, and they know guys who can I I forget their names, sorry. But in the wrestling scene in in New Zealand, and um and then you're a part of it going along, being a character, like adding it, and it's just so funny. I'm just like, wow, this is a thing in our in our version of it. Um I don't think it's quite a I don't know how long it's been around for, I don't know enough about it, but I'm seeing it slowly start to like encroach into uh more popular, it's getting more popular, more people talking about it. It's really interesting because it's very different. Well, not different for New Zealand, it's just something that we haven't maybe we have done it, but it's always been quite underground.

SPEAKER_01 20:20

Oh it's always been underground. I like it's been going on for years, way before I I sorry, excuse me, way before I started doing it. Um I just never heard of it. I I obviously I've heard of wrestling, but I didn't think there were like these events in New Zealand. Nobody wouldn't really heard of them, they were so small. And got uh my my best friend Kurt, um who I I do so much content with, he's the wrestler, he's the one that makes it happen. He had this dream, right, of being part of WWE, and he's gonna get that dream. Like by the way, he's going, he's gonna get it. And he signed up for some wrestling matches. And when he first told me years ago, I thought to myself, like, that's so cool. Like, but wrestling in New Zealand, is that a thing? That's what I thought to myself. Yeah, and then he's been doing these small shows, and then he invited me out to a show, gosh, must have been November last year up north, and it was so the vibe was electric, they had professional cameras, lights. Like, to me, when he told me about it, in my head, I'm thinking a bunch of people in a little hall, no professional lights, is a little ring, and you just jump in, but nah, the production quality was insane. And then Kurt's done so many more events where he just decided to bring me on. So I did an event where I jumped in the ring, got slapped up, got humbled, chucked out of the ring. I've done stuff where I go behind the scenes and talk shit to the wrestlers, have a bit of fun with them. Recently dressed up as a hot dog.

SPEAKER_00 21:48

I saw that.

SPEAKER_01 21:48

Yeah, that was literally planned on the day. On Sunday, I did filming for my movie, get a call from Kurt, like, bro, wrestling match, let's go. Yeah. I pulled up with a hot dog outfit, and I literally said to Kurt. Can I walk out with this? And he was like, Yeah, go on. It's just, it's just, it's just like you said, WWE. It's so fun. And shout out to Kurt because he's gonna be. I I personally think he's not right now. He's not the best wrestler in New Zealand right now. I'm sorry to hurt your ego, Kurt. I'm I'm not a yes man. I'm honest. He's not the best in New Zealand right now, but I guarantee very, very soon he will be. He has the passion for it. His um character is uh like a vlogger.

SPEAKER_00 22:27

Ah yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:28

So he comes out with the vlog camera on his back with a tripod, and he's currently working on a wrestling documentary series about start to finish and his whole journey, and I've seen bits and clips, and it's yeah, he's really good. I he will be one of the best wrestlers in the best. Give him time, he will be. You should come to some events.

SPEAKER_00 22:48

I I should, I should, I should, I look, they look fun.

SPEAKER_01 22:51

They I had no idea it was a thing. Seriously, I was like, No, look, they look fun.

SPEAKER_00 22:54

I was always a bit funny about it because uh you know I'm a bit uh a bit of a martial art purist, you see. But um I love I love I love MMA and stuff like that. So for a while with wrestling, I always was just like, this is just silly. But once you kind of get over that part and see how impressive it is, especially with um like production, yeah, wrestling uh choreography, yeah, that was what was interesting to me. It's like, oh, you can't just be a wrestler, it's a lot more than that. You gotta be the performer and you have to be very careful as well, because they get weapons, they bring out crazy shit, and it's all part of the act. And once you're all in the fun, you just gotta have fun with it. But I when I was watching it more, and I saw guys, I was um I did a music video with a band and they had some wrestlers do some stuff, and I saw how they would, you know, beat each other up in that, and I was like, wow, this is so uh precise and calculated with how they go about you know throwing someone on the ground to putting them in an armbar or like putting them in like wow, that's actually a lot of control. So I was actually I kind of I got a lot of respect for that because that's not easy. Yeah, yeah. So to have that restraint and also to protect people while you're doing those very dangerous moves. That's it. It could be very, very dangerous, you know. Like I do a little bit of jujitsu and stuff, and I can tell you things on an arm bar. Can easily break it.

SPEAKER_01 24:05

And some of these wrestlers are so friendly. Like I'll I'll speak to them back to the city.

SPEAKER_00 24:09

Similar martial arts generally, I know that most of these guys have martial art backgrounds. They're probably they're all generally very nice.

SPEAKER_01 24:14

Yeah, they're all I like to think them, uh think of them as all one nice big family, you know. Yeah, but then they get in the ring and they're just like screening roofless.

SPEAKER_00 24:22

That's what they're all like. That's the same with like kickboxers and MMA guys, uh all those guys in the sport. And a lot of it uh when it comes to wrestling, obviously has a lot of bribe uh bravado, which is a little bit different, but like UFC and stuff is a lot of that. But most of it is just a seller fight.

SPEAKER_01 24:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:36

Because people love drama, you know. WWE makes more, or like in the wrestling world, I think makes more sense because it's a performative martial art.

SPEAKER_01 24:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:44

So you can do more of that.

SPEAKER_01 24:45

Um I got a I have a roster of wrestlers that would probably want to come on your podcast if you're actually.

SPEAKER_00 24:51

Yeah, bro. I got it'd be fun to learn more about this world. It's interesting to to see like New Zealand, yeah, like I said, just recently kind of start to take off, you know. But a lot of these sports have started taking off.

SPEAKER_01 25:03

I mean, the wrestling's a bit different from uh like uh the kickboxing community and MMA, but still like kickboxing MMA is definitely bigger.

SPEAKER_00 25:11

It's become bigger, yeah, but it wasn't for ages. Really?

SPEAKER_01 25:15

Yeah, it wasn't. I always thought it was one of the biggest sports.

SPEAKER_00 25:18

Like it's uh okay, it's become major.

SPEAKER_01 25:20

Wait, is it in New Zealand or worldwide? New Zealand. New Zealand. I'm talking about New Zealand. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:23

I'm not talking about worldwide. Kickboxing's been big. Muay Thai, you name it, right? Yeah, yeah, of course. Of course. But in New Zealand, it's always been rugby, rugby, rugby, and then for a long time, you know. But I feel like the last five years there's just because media and even like independent media companies, New Zealand, there's one called um CSN talked about in here a few times, and they're called Combat Sports Network. I don't think they do wrestling, uh, but like the that wrestling, but they do like a lot of like the local kickboxing, boxing, MMA tournaments around New Zealand, they've done a few in Southeast Asia, and just watch the sport increase in popularity, uh, popularity like crazy. Also have also having Kiwi guys in the UFC and stuff is really special.

SPEAKER_01 26:00

Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_00 26:00

So all of that elevates it. And no doubt, if your mate or someone in the scene gets to WWE, same thing gonna happen. Yeah, you'll watch the New Zealand just be like, whoa boo go crazy. And then people will start taking it more seriously. Like, it's interesting to like I talked about this before on here, not with WWE, but more with like even mixed martial arts. Like, you get guys who get to the highest level of a sport, and in New Zealand it just wasn't res it's just weird, like we just get like I don't respect it.

SPEAKER_01 26:27

Is it just because we it's it's New Zealand?

SPEAKER_00 26:30

I've I don't know what it is. I don't know, because like we go over people go overseas and prove themselves, win these crazy competitions, like Israel Dasani, right? I mean the big name, but he won the middleweight, he was middleweight champ like three times, and then you get Oh, I didn't realise he was from New Zealand until like a couple years ago. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well he's um he's he born in Nigeria but grew up in New Zealand. But then you get guys like uh Kaikara France recently fought, um uh unfortunately lost, but again got to the final of uh you know the for the for the belt, got to fight for the belt.

SPEAKER_01 26:58

You get um or lose, you need respect for even stepping in the ring.

SPEAKER_00 27:03

But even getting into the like the highest level of combat sports, like for the U of C all these competitions is crazy. But it took so long, I feel, for like the respect. Yeah, because I just don't think the way everyone does. I think the older generation, oh, it's a bunch of fucking like animals or something. Like it's not a sport. But um, yeah, I think it's changing, which is good. And I think going back to the wrestling part, I feel like maybe we will see, like when someone from New Zealand can maybe there's already someone from New Zealand, I don't I'm not sure. Um people can educate me on this, but once it's become a bit more like well known, like we get a face, yeah. Yeah, you watch it change.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

This is gonna it's it's such a I truly like with Kurt, I truly reckon that he will be like the face of those New Zealand wrestling because um I love all the wrestlers. Shout out Conor King, Pat, um, Sonny, these are all really awesome wrestlers. Um me and Sonny have a bit of beef though, actually, but that's for another day. Um but all these great wrestlers, they perform really well. Like in the ring, they perform amazing. One of my personal favorite wrestlers to watch is Connor King. Um, he you can just tell he's got the agility and everything. He's so cool to watch. But what a lot of these wrestlers don't have, I think, is the um the storytelling outside of the ring. I think what's why Kurt stands out from the rest is he's got the storytelling technique with his vlogs, his Instagram stories, his videos, his TikToks, and everything. He's actually trying to tell a story outside of the ring rather than just show up to a fight, do the fight, and then leave. Which a lot of wrestlers only do that, which is what they want. That's fine. A lot of wrestlers want to show up for the night because they love the sport and get out, yeah, go to the next one. Where I think he he he's trying to tell more of a story, and he's trying to really bring New Zealand wrestling to the light.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

I'm surprised more people don't do that in the wrestling scene.

SPEAKER_01 29:05

I mean, uh some of them do, but again, a lot of them just they just care about getting in there, having a good time.

SPEAKER_00 29:10

Yeah, but that's that's not good enough anymore. Yeah, I get I mean, but I I blame uh you know what I mean though.

SPEAKER_01 29:15

I blame influencer boxing. Yeah, I love influencer boxing, YouTube boxes, I think it's so cool. But I think because of them, I think everybody expects everybody to also be like you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 29:25

Yeah, 100%. It's in every it's in the all the fight scene, MMA is like that as well. Boxing, like people expect, yeah, like even if you're a local guy, like you gotta tell your story where you're from, why you're fighting. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 29:37

That's actually what wrestling's in New Zealand is lacking. Yeah. They don't like in boxing in MMA and all that UFC, they have what face-offs?

SPEAKER_00 29:43

Yeah, no, but not even just the face-offs. There's so much build-up. Yeah, and there's online press conferencing, talking back online, you know, that's what I love.

SPEAKER_01 29:51

New Zealand wrestling, I'm gonna be honest, they're not doing any of that. It'll come face-offs. It'll come. Hopefully, because if these the biggest they have so many awesome events, they've got one in September, one in November, huge events, thousands of people will be there, I'll be there. If they had like face-offs with the wrestlers, if they had press conferences, if they did like online Zoom interviews, it would just pop off so much. Do you know what I mean? Like people would be invested because New Zealand wrestling, they're relying on the fans to be excited for who they're fighting on the night while learning about them pretty much on the night. You know, they need some build-up beforehand to to build the fans up, and that's 100% what they're lacking.

SPEAKER_00 30:32

Yeah, I I yeah, I'd I I I feel like there's gonna be a point where in in res in the New Zealand version of what you've explained, they're gonna have to. The only way to get bigger is everyone has to become a content creator, pretty much. Like seriously.

SPEAKER_01 30:46

I mean I don't like actually saying that. I don't like saying that, but it's true. It's true, it's kind of true, really.

SPEAKER_00 30:52

And that's also the an issue, not just with wrestling in New Zealand, but with a lot of things. Yeah, we're just not it's it's just not within our culture to put ourselves out there like that. We're not uh look at me kind of people. Yeah, it's not so I think it's it's quite hard for a lot of uh Kiwis to get over that hump or of just like uh even like something small at the moment. I got friends when I started the podcast, I was like, no one's gonna listen to that bullshit posting that shit up online, yada yada yada. And then I'm just like, hey man, if I just keep going, watch, uh, you know, and then like, oh right, oh maybe I'll do something. And I'm just like episode 80 now. Yeah, but even um thank you, yeah, but even like with um with business and stuff, like it's some of even like my mates now, because there's some of them in their 30s and that and uh how does it so like sometimes they'll be stuck like 10 years, which is weird to say, yeah because it's still not old, but they'll be like with business, it's like, oh, why do you do that much? Like, you know, you you should if you're a good enough business, why do you need to to post all do all the content? And I'm like, do you not understand how that ecosystem works these days with being in business? It's I don't know, actually, it'd be interesting to talk to you about. I feel like the expectation now of a business owner is you have to be an influencer at the same time.

SPEAKER_01 32:04

A part of me gets scared about this for the younger next generation because when I growing up, I wanted to be a YouTuber as a kid, right? And till this day, I would love for my full-time job to be content creating, working with brands, and doing all that stuff. That would be a dream for me. What's bad about this world, and it's bad coming from me, is that all these kids these days just want to be influencers, they want to grow up and just be content creators. You don't hear like a 10-year-old kid say, I want to be a firefighter. I mean, you probably will, but like a majority of kids these days don't just want to be a content creator, they want to be a YouTuber.

SPEAKER_00 32:40

I want to be in front of the camera.

SPEAKER_01 32:41

Yeah, I want to be a YouTuber when I grow up. That's what I'm gonna do. So, and not everyone can get that dream. Nah. I truly believe if you have a dream, go for it. I hope you get it, and I'm sure you will. You gotta work, but you gotta really work, and it's it's I don't, it's just it sucks for the next generation where all everybody just wants to be a content creator.

SPEAKER_00 32:58

It's funny though, because okay, not just not for young people, I agree with you on that, but more like even looking at how it like the most boring business, whatever it may. One of the guys who's who's blown up a lot recently, who's funny as online's like was it? Uh LED sign Tony.

SPEAKER_01 33:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 33:13

The guy who does the LED signs. I don't know if you've seen him.

SPEAKER_01 33:16

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_00 33:16

He's this Chinese guy, and he just does like he'll like make really controversial comments about like some reels and be like, oh, that's weird. Anyway, check out the new LED sign I'm selling. Really dumb, simple concept, right? But he um he's blown up. Yeah, like blown up the LEDs from from from no just from those like silly, like silly comedy uh videos. And it's like this guy's just selling LED signs, but now like I'm talking about him, right? And he's just blown up massively, and it's like there's like this expectation now that business owners do that.

SPEAKER_01 33:48

Well, I don't think there's any problem with business owners being influencers. You gotta I mean that's how you push the market, really.

SPEAKER_00 33:53

You gotta you gotta get out there, but it's funny, but it's like the old school way. It's like, oh, well, shouldn't your product or service say enough for itself? But it's like that's not good enough anymore. It's not enough anymore. It's not enough anymore.

SPEAKER_01 34:02

You gotta make a cringy TikTok that blows up and then people will start buying your stuff.

SPEAKER_00 34:07

Exactly. And that's the other thing. Um you probably heard about this recently. Uh we're in a time where it's not social media more, it's interest media.

SPEAKER_01 34:15

Have you heard? What does that mean?

SPEAKER_00 34:16

So what that means is like on social media now, yeah, for ages, and I guess you could say it kind of is still about subscribers and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 34:23

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:24

Followers. But what people want is they go on the platform to see what they're interested in. It doesn't always mean they're gonna be there to go look at the people uh I mean they will look at people who they like, like their friends and stuff, and maybe they follow a brand or whatever, but people love scrolling on reels and scrolling on TikTok and right. They want to watch what they're interested in. It's not necessarily to socialize or to uh how would I say? It's like people follow what they're interested in. They don't follow like a s you don't just hit you subscribe to tens different people and then you just follow those people now. Yeah, that doesn't exist anymore.

SPEAKER_01 35:03

Yeah, I see.

SPEAKER_00 35:04

Do you see what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 35:04

Yeah, I see what you mean. I see what you mean.

SPEAKER_00 35:06

I just feel like that's changed hugely in the last few years. Yeah. So yeah, I don't know, but I've been kind of thinking about that more recently. Interest media, not social media.

SPEAKER_01 35:15

I see, I see.

SPEAKER_00 35:16

Because even like with the podcast, I mean I do a lot of different stuff, but I've had people be like, oh bro, are you still posting stuff? And I'm like, yeah, all the time. Like, oh, I haven't seen it. And I'm like, ah, because you probably saw a few friends, or sorry, you probably saw people who you knew who did like maybe music or maybe something specific or done before, but now I haven't done that in a while. So now that's not showing now it's not showing up for you anymore on your feed because it's not in interesting to you, which is whatever, but that's how it works now.

SPEAKER_01 35:44

Which is a sad truth, but I guess it's true. That's how it works.

SPEAKER_00 35:48

It's like with your content, you do heaps of different stuff, but like for a while, let's say maybe for a while you just do wrestling content, like 10 videos.

SPEAKER_01 35:57

People at one point will be like, Oh PK, is he still I wouldn't I can't do that, right? But but do you know what I mean? I get what you mean, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:04

Is he still doing that? Yeah, no, is he still posting stuff?

SPEAKER_01 36:07

I'm okay, yeah, I see what you mean. That's a good way to put it.

SPEAKER_00 36:10

Yeah, so I don't know, it's just like times are very different with how to approach social media. It's in it's it's out of it. So uh, I want to talk about sort of so when I last had you on, yeah, you probably had I hate talking about numbers and stuff, but I'm gonna talk about it. You probably had like a few thousand, maybe a thousand or so followers, and you had like, you know, doing pretty lot of stuff, but then you had a video blow up with you and your missus. Yeah. Which is like crazy. Uh so that got posted like what, two months ago?

SPEAKER_01 36:40

So I in May I went to Australia because my girlfriend, um she lives in Australia. It's a long distance thing. She's still in Australia. I went to go surprise her. She knew I was coming, but I she thought I was coming in June, but I came in May. So I went there, surprised her, decided to document it, filmed it, and it was such an emotional, emotional video. Yeah. Um, because you you could tell that it was genuine reaction, which I really love. Edited that, posted it online, and I think at the time I had 600 followers on Instagram, and then I woke up the next morning and I looked at my phone. 2,000? I actually like wiped my eyes. I was like, hang on, what?

SPEAKER_00 37:24

What's going on? That's wild.

SPEAKER_01 37:25

And then I checked the views on the video and I was like, what the fuck? And I woke up at five o'clock in the morning for some reason. I wake up my girlfriend.

SPEAKER_02 37:32

Yo, look at this. Whatever.

SPEAKER_01 37:34

She was like, What? And I showed her the numbers and she was like, and then went back to sleep. But no, it's it's just I don't know. Because it blew up on TikTok as well. I think TikTok a couple million, Instagram a couple million. Since then, I've I've been busting out videos that have done really well as well. But that specifically, um I I don't know. I guess people just enjoy it. Maybe it because the comments were popping off. There were a bunch of comments saying um how oh that's so cute, that's it's so nice. Or I think maybe it's just stories that people relate to, that's why it popped off. But then I looked at the the dark side of the comments, right?

SPEAKER_00 38:12

There's always the dark side of the comments.

SPEAKER_01 38:14

There was nothing mean or horrible. Oh, there were some people saying, like, oh, you know, this is fake, blah blah blah. And then there was a couple funny ones because I saw I surprised her in a Starbucks, and I kind of walked her out of the Starbucks, and there were so many comments saying, Bro, let her get the Starbucks.

SPEAKER_00 38:32

More concession to get her coffee.

SPEAKER_01 38:33

Yeah, but I I be I'm completely honest, I don't read my comments. On all my videos on TikTok and Instagram, I don't read my comments.

SPEAKER_00 38:42

Mainly because I know that's because I comment and I don't get a reply.

SPEAKER_01 38:45

Oh, do you? Do you actually? I think I've I've commented maybe one or two. And I've never responded. Nah. Oh my bad. I I genuinely don't look at my comments. If I scroll on my videos and I happen to see Yeah, I know. No, no, no. Then I then I'll look at it.

SPEAKER_00 38:59

Don't worry about it because I'm a bit I I re I'm I'm funny with comments as well because I had I had one of mine recently blow up about martial arts. It was about boxing and stuff and sparring.

SPEAKER_01 39:11

Was it like a controversial one?

SPEAKER_00 39:13

Nah it was just an honest truth about how guys don't take care of themselves in the gym. Yeah, some some guys saying Oh, there was a lot of CTA in the comments, just people arguing about what's the best martial art and how everyone who does boxing is a pussy, and how people do kickboxing is a pussy. And it's just like, am I in the schoolyard?

SPEAKER_01 39:31

Like, more views for you though.

SPEAKER_00 39:34

Yeah, it's just but I read it and I'm like, ah man. But um, it's really funny because I'm like, oh wow, I didn't expect this. I'm I was like surprised by it, but I'm also just like, yeah, I don't need to read anything in here. Nothing, there's nothing good really in here.

SPEAKER_01 39:48

It's just the dark side of it. They're there, like that's another reason why I also don't read comments anymore, is because sometimes they will be horrible comments.

SPEAKER_00 39:55

It also depends how thick skinned you are, and if you you know, like it's always for me, I always imagine, I always do this most of the time. If someone's commenting and especially going on like a tangent of how much they hate me, I just imagine like someone in their basement just like tightly like drooling covered in like Doritos. Bag of Doritos chips, got some mountain jewel on the side, and like just have no life. Um that's what I imagine, and I'm and I also I've kind of gone empathy now for people like that because if your your life is that sad where you have to comment on whatever and spend that much time writing how much you hate them, bro, your life must suck.

SPEAKER_01 40:37

Because it really does hurt. Like it some comments can hurt people. Yeah. For me, I've had a lot of it years ago in the past, I'm fine now. The no comments bother me.

SPEAKER_00 40:46

Yeah. Um every now and again though, like Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:49

Like my my girlfriend, because obviously she lives in Australia right now, she will move in with me in November. But she um looked at some comments um from the video, and yeah, there there were some that weren't there were some nasty ones. That's why I don't actually um tag my girlfriend in anything. Stories, accounts, I don't even mention her name on the internet just because I don't I just don't want people going on and commenting on her stuff, because I think her account is public because I it's gonna sound a bit cheesy, because I I really love her and I promise 100% I'm gonna marry her. 100% I see myself marrying her, but and it sucks. Yeah, propose right now. But it sucks when she's in Australia and I can't do anything about it. And she called me up. This happened like a week ago, and she's telling me about some of the comments she reads. I just need to tell her just to stay off it. Yeah, but yeah, comments. I'm sure you probably probably like you just said before, you'll get a few comments.

SPEAKER_00 41:50

Oh, like that one. Uh there's more in the beginning. Actually, funnily enough, it was more in the beginning.

SPEAKER_01 41:54

What like when there were two of you?

SPEAKER_00 41:55

Yeah, like we got I got heaps of random ones.

SPEAKER_01 41:57

Was it was it just like, oh, this isn't gonna last long, this is stupid.

SPEAKER_00 42:00

Oh, this is the dumbest thing I've watched. This is so much a waste of time. And I was just real, I thought it was really funny. Um That's what you gotta do, just like But I was just like, keep saying how much you hate it and share it with your friends. Yeah. Um, but then I remember I think the one that kind of got to me, I talked about him once before. Uh I'm gonna cut this bit out. Um but I had a I had a guy, um he was like a crazy fan, which is really weird. Of you? Yeah. Okay. So he found me from music I'd done in the past. Yeah. So that's how he knew me. Yeah. And I was like, that's cool. I don't know the guy, he lives in Australia.

SPEAKER_01 42:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:35

And then he would send me voice notes and stuff, which is already a bit strange. I don't know who you are. He's like, oh, blah, blah, blah, blah, little tourist, checking out the podcast, yada yada yada. Love what you're doing. We're gonna do music again. And I was like, Oh, thanks, bro, appreciate you talking about the music, like uh, but I'm focusing on this right now. And then uh as time went on, he got weirder and weirder. It was like, oh bro, the podcast's a bit repetitive, not really enjoying it. Don't know if I, you know, vibe with what's been going on, and I'm like, oh, it sucks, bro, but whatever. But he's like, Oh, but you know, love what you've done here, and I'm like, okay. And then just slowly but surely I got to a point where he just decided he fucking hated my guts. Okay, and he um the point was he found a video of me. I did an open mic, I used to do a lot of open mic nights, and he showed me a video of me doing music, like, and I my my voice wasn't very good. And uh he was like, This is the worst thing I've ever listened to. And I was like, Okay, why did you need to bring up a video from like by that point, maybe six years ago? And he was like, Oh, you're an embarrassment, and I'm like, Ta who. And then he just spent and this is DMs, not comments, by the way, and then he went off for ages telling me how I'm a fraud, how I'm a phony, how I'm a loser. And I was like, what the fuck is wrong with this guy?

SPEAKER_01 43:48

He's the one wasting his time.

SPEAKER_00 43:50

But then I was just I was just like, and it kept going, and I'm like, that's enough. And I'm like, look, bro, sort out your life. I just blocked him because it was getting crazy. Yeah. But I was just like, wow, am I that? Impactful. But it was just really weird. You should keep this in. That's interesting. Maybe, maybe. We'll see. I'll see how far I feel maybe when I edit. But it's just really odd. It was like this evolution of like someone who loves what you do, and then slowly, which is really like strange. I mean, this is very small time stuff that I do. And appreciate everyone who ch who listens and supports, but it's just weird to me. Some people just get that invested.

SPEAKER_01 44:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:25

I'm just like, wow, that's weird. And then spend that much time like messaging me this stuff.

SPEAKER_01 44:31

Yeah, spend all that time that massive long list of reasons why they're.

SPEAKER_00 44:35

I've I've had a few people DM me with comments with like messages telling me about things, and I'm just like, alright, bro.

SPEAKER_01 44:40

That just comes with it, I reckon.

SPEAKER_00 44:41

But that's you're putting yourself out there. That's this game. What do you expect's gonna happen? Everyone gonna love you?

SPEAKER_01 44:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:47

That's what's really bad about disabling comments on videos. I believe that's bad. I believe it's bad doing that. I agree. Because you really gotta show what are what are people thinking about this. What is do people like this? And it and that's the thing I think with a lot of I won't spend too much time talking about this, but with a lot of media companies, yeah, they disable comments and likes and stuff. And I'm like, that's bad. Especially on Twitter. You should re well, yeah, on Twitter, but on YouTube. I'm like, that's really bad. You really should not do that. Like your whole point of what you do is to st to tell the story of the most uh of what happened and on an event and to tell the people, and people should be able to comment and to tell you, you know, like their opinion and their ideas. That's the whole point of journalism is to get people talking about an event or whatever. And you just taking that away, it just tells me that you don't it it just I don't know, kind of goes against like journalism, I think. I think. Yeah, no, I agree with that. I could agree with that. So I think you gotta, you know, if you I don't know if YouTube does like doesn't have like the like bar anymore. I think that's gone now, eh? Do you remember it used to be like green and red?

SPEAKER_01 45:56

Oh, they have the like bar, but they don't like they have the dislike as well, but they don't show the number of the dislikes. Yeah, that's bad as well. They show the number of likes. It's bad as well.

SPEAKER_00 46:05

You should have to show that anyway. But I remember like the when it used to be like a I used to call it the lightsaver, so it's like a little bit green, but then all red.

SPEAKER_01 46:11

Yeah, yeah, I remember that. Oh yeah, that's old. That's old shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:15

But I used to thought that was good. It's like, but people should know. Like, if you say some stupid shit and upset people, or you do something horrible.

SPEAKER_01 46:23

Or if you do something that didn't work out and you want some criticism, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 46:27

Yeah, and did something that didn't work out and you get that, then like life is not nice. Like you gotta learn that stuff. Obviously, people, you know, might say horrible things and whatever, and that's not great, but I don't know, we can't we can't live in uh cotton wool, you know?

SPEAKER_01 46:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:42

But also it's it's a balanced thing. But I don't know, I just think if you try and shield yourself too much, we're going a bit deep now. If you try and shield yourself too much from the world, you're gonna get hurt at some point.

SPEAKER_01 46:53

No, I get that.

SPEAKER_00 46:54

So it's a it's a balanced thing. But uh to to what you said about that video with your girlfriend, you know, that sucks. But like it's and it is unfortunate.

SPEAKER_01 47:03

But at the end of the day, like a good like 80% of comments were lucky, 100%.

SPEAKER_00 47:08

So it's like, alright, you're gonna get if like what maybe a hundred losers and like ten thousand great people.

SPEAKER_01 47:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:14

That's called society, man. Exactly, exactly. Never gonna be able to escape that. Um bit of tangent there, that was fun. Um, you had any stalker fans? Any any stalker fans?

SPEAKER_01 47:25

I don't think I have fans. I think I just have some people that just enjoy my videos and will come along and follow for the ride. Yeah, right. I don't think I have like specific fans, do you know what I mean? I'm sure you do. I mean, there'll definitely be some people that love my videos and like I I do see some people the some of the same people liking and all that. Um no, I I don't think I have fans, or at least there are some I might not know about, but there's definitely a good collective of people that love watching my videos, and I'll I'll get some nice I'll get some nice little comments like oh this was a cool video.

SPEAKER_00 47:57

I leave comments and I don't get responded to.

SPEAKER_01 47:59

I need to I really need to go through I need to go through my comments more. It just turns out I like it. Because a lot of my videos on Instagram, no, sorry, all of my videos on Instagram are scheduled uploads. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I try to stay off social media and the uploads will go up themselves and I won't even know really. It's a healthy way of doing it. Yeah, yeah. So I need I'll I'll promise I'll go and read my comments.

SPEAKER_00 48:21

No, it's alright. It's uh what I find hard is always like the story stuff. It's like trying to add all the stories and like try and keep up with that. Um, but yeah, yeah, the process of being in content. Have you had any content videos like kind of because you do them in public sometimes?

SPEAKER_01 48:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:43

Have you had any like weird things happen when you've done a video outside, like on the street or maybe in town or something?

SPEAKER_01 48:49

I because of where I'm at right now on social media, I feel comfortable filming in public now. I don't really care anymore. Because I go to a lot of events and there are so many other content creators that are also filming, and it's made me feel a lot better better about filming in public.

SPEAKER_00 49:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:02

Um we have filmed some movie scenes in public, and sometimes no, not really, actually. I mean, the most random looks I've gotten from people when doing content is probably the wrestling. I think when we show up in a random costume, or if I'm running through the crowd or I'm jumping for the ring, I think you'll get but that's I guess that's all part of the act, so yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:28

I mean because if I was there and I saw you do that, I'd just be like, Well, that's a part of it, right? Yeah, you know, it's it's it's like kind of that showcase wrestling.

SPEAKER_01 49:37

I mean, actually, I guess like I've done some like TikTok Instagram stuff where I'm talking to the camera out in public and I will see people just like look at me, but I think it's so normal these days that nobody really cares anymore.

SPEAKER_00 49:49

Yeah, having a camera out is just so standard now.

SPEAKER_01 49:51

Yeah, it's just normal. I mean, I don't for anything. There'll you'll you'll get some people that will like, what is this guy doing?

SPEAKER_00 49:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:57

I mean, but yeah. It's so normalized. I mean, I see it all the time. I see people out there like doing vlogs and stuff, and I'm just like, I don't care. It is what it is. Like they're just doing what they love, really.

SPEAKER_00 50:07

Depends how intrusive it is.

SPEAKER_01 50:09

I think there's like a I haven't tried public pranks yet. Maybe I'll try that.

SPEAKER_00 50:12

Uh yeah. Who was there? Was a channel years ago on YouTube who they were there was like a thing for a while. Everyone would do prank videos, I swear. But there's these two guys who would these American guys who would do it, I forgot their name, but they ended up, I think, getting like beaten up, and I think like those pretty bad.

SPEAKER_01 50:29

Oh shit, wait, really?

SPEAKER_00 50:30

Yeah, well they do like video like you know, really. You gotta be careful, like some primary is gonna get you killed by the biggest. But they try and antagonize people. Yeah, I think you know, like I think throw food or like throw water.

SPEAKER_01 50:40

What I don't like are those videos where they go into like public places, like malls or shopping centres or that's the same thing, or like you know, stores, and they're just harassing the employees. That's what I don't like. Although I am guilty for scrolling and looking at that and laughing, to be honest, I'll admit I'm guilty for that. And I like but like realistically, some people are just trying to do their jobs.

SPEAKER_00 51:04

But what I like now, because probably with videos from that, on like a weird uh effect I reckon that might have had on businesses, is now people do skits of that.

SPEAKER_01 51:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:12

And then help promote their business and stuff. I'm like, that's smart.

SPEAKER_01 51:15

That's yeah. I see, I don't know if you see a lot of the videos that I think it's really funny when um people they wear those those glasses, and like you know, the one that what's it called? Meta ray or something? Oh yeah, yeah. And they throw the loaf of bread into people's trolleys. Have you seen that? I have not seen this. Y'all I see them all the time. I actually think they're hilarious. It's like these people, they go to like supermarkets and they just toff like toss loaf of breads in people's like trolleys, and then when the guy's like, was this you? And he's like, No, where'd that come from? I actually think it's so funny. As long as you're not hurting anybody, like I mean it's it's all okay. I mean, if someone is trying to do their job though, like I just leave them alone, let them be, man. You know what I mean? It's also like if you gotta get permission from people, I think the other thing, it's like most time no one gets if it's like a prank, I don't think like a prank where it's like you it ends in an argument, no one's asking permission.

SPEAKER_00 52:05

Yeah, but at that point, I just like if it depending on what someone did, if someone really like rubbed me the wrong way, and so I just grab the phone.

SPEAKER_01 52:12

I literally like um I don't know if you know Ross Creations. No, he does just as a Ross creation, you'll you'll love him. He does amazing pranks, so funny, and he'll tell them afterwards, oh it's just a prank, don't worry. And then it's all love and just a prank, bro. Yeah, but like that, his pranks are so like innocent, but so hilarious. Like one of his pranks he did recently, oh you'll love it. What was it? What did he do recently? He um Oh, he I think he oh no, what was it? I need to think. Okay, I don't want to waste too much time on just that, but search up Ross Creations because his pranks, you're like, oh, like for example, he put an entire grizzly bear in his house and called an exterminator, being like, Yeah, I just need you to get it out. And the guy had no idea it was a grizzly bear. Like it's innocent pranks like that. Obviously, be someone on the set on side, like making sure like no one gets hurts and stuff, yeah. But it's stuff like that he does, which I think is so funny.

SPEAKER_00 53:03

That is quite funny.

SPEAKER_01 53:04

Yeah, that is quite funny, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:06

Alright, bro. Um, I'm thinking that we've kind of done oh one other thing I was gonna mention was you also went to the uh how to train a dragon premiere. Oh yeah, the live action. Yeah, yeah. How I haven't seen that yet. How was it?

SPEAKER_01 53:21

It was good. Yeah, I liked it. Literally copy and paste from the animator, but that's not a bad thing.

SPEAKER_00 53:26

No, it's not a bad thing. Yeah. Because the live action interpretations from animations is sometimes bad.

SPEAKER_01 53:32

And they're doing a second one.

SPEAKER_00 53:33

I haven't seen one.

SPEAKER_01 53:34

That's green lit, and I'm sure they'll do a third one. I don't think they'll copy and paste the third one though. I think the third one. Have you seen the animated ones? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like all of them?

SPEAKER_00 53:43

Uh no, just one and three or four. I can't remember.

SPEAKER_01 53:46

I I'd say the third one's probably one of the weakest ones, but still really good, so I think they'll change that up. But yeah, it was cool. Live action, I love it. It was awesome.

SPEAKER_00 53:54

Yeah, because he was also like the Lilo and Stitch one, which I went and saw, and I really enjoyed it. Oh, I love Lilo. Lilo and Stitch is one of my favourite movies ever. I because I remember I watched it when I was a kid when it came out. Yeah. And then uh I I haven't watched the original in so long.

SPEAKER_01 54:09

I'm obsessed with Stitch. I've got so much Stitch stuff.

SPEAKER_00 54:12

Yeah, I've seen you have a lot of Stitch merch in there.

SPEAKER_01 54:15

I can't lie. I love Stitch.

SPEAKER_00 54:18

Because I want to re-watch some some of that because I grew up watching it. Um it's cool how that's like they casted that really well. Um I think they did a good job.

SPEAKER_01 54:27

That was supposed to go to Disney Plus. That was supposed to be a straight to streaming service movie, and it made a billion dollars.

SPEAKER_00 54:32

That's crazy. Yeah, after that, what was it? Snow White and did real shit, and then this one did great.

SPEAKER_01 54:36

Yeah, Snow White wasn't that good. I'll always respect filmmakers for putting in the time and effort to make a movie no matter what. But sometimes that movie turns out like Snow White.

SPEAKER_00 54:47

Respectfully, sometimes it turns out like Snow White. Yeah, yeah, fair enough. Alright. Alright, bro. Um, normally I do quick fires, but I've done quick fires of you, so um, I suppose we can just kind of round a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 54:58

What's quick fires are you?

SPEAKER_00 54:59

Wait, I call them quickfire questions, but they're just slow fire questions, so I just try and ask you.

SPEAKER_01 55:03

Yeah, why not? Go on. I'll do some real quick.

SPEAKER_00 55:04

Alright, well I'll try and think of one.

SPEAKER_01 55:06

Two seconds two second questions.

SPEAKER_00 55:10

Okay, fine. Hold on. Let me let me think.

SPEAKER_01 55:12

I'll put you on the spot now.

SPEAKER_00 55:13

Yeah, you did. You did. Um favorite film you've seen recently?

SPEAKER_01 55:21

Lee Low and Stitch. No, it's not though. No, Leah, Lee Low and St Oh, Thunderbolts, Thunderbolts, Thunderbolts.

SPEAKER_00 55:26

Thunderbolts?

SPEAKER_01 55:26

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 55:27

That was good. Uh favorite musician listening to right now?

SPEAKER_01 55:31

Kendrick Lamar.

SPEAKER_00 55:32

Wow, huh? Kendrick Lamar. Okay, okay. Uh Favourite DC character.

SPEAKER_01 55:39

Superman.

SPEAKER_00 55:40

Superman?

SPEAKER_01 55:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:42

That's a cancer. Favorite Marvel character.

SPEAKER_01 55:44

Spider-Man. Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_00 55:46

Okay, okay. And uh we may as well just rattle off some other things. Uh favorite Star Wars character. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 55:54

So I've seen all the movies, but I haven't seen all the shows.

SPEAKER_00 55:56

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 55:57

What's some uh no, what's his name? Damn. The um oh, I'm gonna get hated in the comments for those. What's his name? You won't read them anyway. You t you turned her against me, that one. What's his name?

SPEAKER_00 56:11

Anakin Skywalker.

SPEAKER_01 56:12

Anakin Skywalker, yeah. Also Darth Vader, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:18

Yeah, yeah. As your favourite, yeah. Yeah, it's great how he's had a comeback, but um, yeah, he was. Bring him back.

SPEAKER_01 56:25

I love Obi-Wo. Did you watch Obi-Wan?

SPEAKER_00 56:27

Fuck yeah, I did.

SPEAKER_01 56:28

I loved that show. Yeah, that was like the first time I was like hyped, hyped for a Star Wars project.

SPEAKER_00 56:32

Oh yeah, fair enough.

SPEAKER_01 56:34

Because I'm not a big Star Wars guy, but if it's on, I'll watch it, you know. I haven't seen like Ahsoka, I've seen Mandalorian. I've heard the f I haven't seen the third season, but apparently it's not good. But the Mandalorian movie next year, so that'll be cool.

SPEAKER_00 56:46

I'm excited for that. Mandalorian sick. Yeah, yeah. I re I've I recently re-watched those early Star Wars movies. I grew up with those, like the prequels, and then and I was it's so funny because at the time when I watched them, they were hated on like fuck. Like no one liked them.

SPEAKER_01 57:00

Yeah, yeah. They even the guy Judja Bings, he got pretty heated, right? Yeah, hated. But it's funny because I watched them all for the first time in 2019. In 2019, I didn't I hadn't seen a single Star Wars movie, and then me and my mates wanted to watch the latest, one at the time, Rise of Skywalker. So I watched them all for the first time. Wow. And it was Did you never watch them when you were a kid? Nah, it was good, but like I think I just got tired towards the end. Because I was just watching Star Wars all day. But no, they were cool, they were really cool. So Anakin is my favourite.

SPEAKER_00 57:34

Anakin, fair enough.

SPEAKER_01 57:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:37

Alright, bro. Well, I think we'll call it there. Um, it's been great watching your journey. Trying to keep up with what you're doing. Like, and um, yeah, film coming out November. Tell everyone what uh what we've we have talked about a lot of what's going on, but let's revise. Revise what's going on, promotion, let's go.

SPEAKER_01 57:53

Okay, so November 16th is Ryder Austin, Scarlet Austin, my premiere. Uh it's Rialto Cinemas. I think like 7 pm. Film might start at 7 30. It'll be a cool little QA, little red carpet. Buy tickets, they're $15 each. They're in the link of my bio on Pika Hectic Instagram. Um, because I need rent. Yeah, I'm gonna get kicked out of my house. So if you guys want to support me, and support the movie too, it'll be cool. It's a cool movie. It's cool. Nah, it's a really cool movie, so come along and check it out. It's we put a lot of heart and f uh heart and soul into it.

SPEAKER_00 58:27

That's sick. Awesome, bro. All right, love.

SPEAKER_01 58:29

Well, thank you for having me. When when was I first on? Was this like about a year ago?

SPEAKER_00 58:33

Nah, no, bro. It was like uh February. This year? Yeah, it was this year.

SPEAKER_01 58:39

When I was on here, damn. Can I go my con a year from now?

SPEAKER_00 58:42

Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_01 58:43

September next year? Sure. All right, cool.

SPEAKER_00 58:44

We'll book it, we'll put it in the calendar.

SPEAKER_01 58:46

All right, cool.

SPEAKER_00 58:46

All right, mean. All right, thanks everyone for listening. Call it there. Thank you, PK. Bowie, thank you.