Overwhelmed Working Woman: Boost Productivity, Master Time Management, Overcome Overwhelm & Stop People Pleasing

#142| Go From Skeptical & Stuck in Overwhelm to Manifesting Your Dream Life: Here's How!: Overwhelm, Productivity, Time Management & People Pleasing

• Michelle Gauthier | Inspired by Mel Robbins, Jen Sincero, Brene Brown, Glennon Doyle, Emily Ley, Shauna Niequist

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Are you feeling stuck in your life, even after trying therapy, medication, and every solution under the sun?

In this inspiring episode, Michelle chats with group coaching client Jessie—a once-skeptical working woman who was buried in overwhelm and doubt. Despite being unsure that group coaching could help, Jessie took a chance, and what unfolded changed everything in just 12 weeks.

In this episode, you will:

  • Discover the moment Jessie’s mindset shifted from hopeless to empowered.
  • Learn why realizing what’s out of your control could be the key to lasting peace.
  • Hear how Jessie manifested her dream home, kept her job, and built habits that support her emotionally—without hustle or burnout.


 Hit play to hear how a self-described skeptic created lasting change, real happiness, and a life she never thought was possible.


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Jessie Weiss:

I thought, this is just not going to work. This is silly.

Michelle Gauthier:

You're listening to Overwhelmed Working Woman, the podcast that helps you be more calm and more productive by doing less. I'm your host, Michelle Gauthier, a former Overwhelmed Working Woman and current life coach. On this show, we unpack the stress and pressure that today's working woman experiences and in each episode you'll get a strategy to bring more calm, ease and relaxation to your life. Hi, friend, you might have noticed from that intro sentence that today I'm interviewing Jessie, who just finished my last round of group coaching, who was a skeptic, to say the least, about what we were going to do in group coaching and what she was actually going to learn. She went from feeling really skeptical and hopeless to completing a total life upgrade. She'll talk about a powerful mindset reframe that was focusing on what's in versus out of her control, and how that helped her get started on her journey of changing her outlook. Why vision boards work even though she rolled her eyes at them and even says in the interview that she thinks I'm crazy and how the vision board led her to a dream life in Florida - such a great story. And then how changing the way you talk to yourself can lift the weight of overwhelm and really build lasting changes and confidence. So listen to Jessie's story and see if you feel inspired.

Michelle Gauthier:

If you are interested in group coaching, I would love to talk to you. Because it's such a small, high touch group. I would like to connect with everyone individually before they join. So if you are interested, registration opens today and the first step is to book that quick 15 minute call with me and on that we'll make sure that it feels like a good fit and you can ask any questions so that you can feel really confident about saying yes, or, like Jesse, saying maybe, but I'm going to give it a try. All right, let's dive in and hear what Jessie has to say. Hi, Jessie, Thanks for being on.

Jessie Weiss:

Thank you for having me.

Michelle Gauthier:

Yeah, I'm so excited to have you. So Jessie has just finished the latest round of group coaching that we did and I asked her to come on and talk about some of the things that she learned and some of the changes that happened in her life throughout the program. So will you start by telling us had you ever worked with a life coach before, either in group or one-on-one?

Jessie Weiss:

I had never worked with a life coach before group or one-on-one, so this is a new experience for me.

Michelle Gauthier:

Okay, and how did you feel before?

Jessie Weiss:

You know before, I'm still shocked that you even asked me to be on the podcast because I thought that you might hate me after our first meeting, because I still remember you being like Jessie, hat made you want to join and I remember being so skeptical about joining. I'm actually shocked that I even joined the group because I thought this is just not going to work. This is silly. But I ended up joining it and I tried to think back like why did I join it? And I think it was. I was just in a really funky place in my life and mindset that time and, if I could use one word to describe it, I felt overwhelmed. And with your podcast being the Overwhelmed Working Woman, I was like, well, maybe she might get it and I thought I'll give it a try. If it works, awesome. If not, then yay. I was right that it was going to be bad.

Michelle Gauthier:

I knew it.

Michelle Gauthier:

I knew this was going to suck. Exactly. So funny and I absolutely love that you went in thinking this isn't going to work, but there had to be some part of you that was like you know, maybe it's worth me, I'm going to try it and do it, okay. So you said you were kind of in a funk at that time and feeling really overwhelmed. How did that feel to you in particular in your life? Were you overwhelmed with work or personal, or what did your overwhelm feel?

Jessie Weiss:

I felt overwhelmed, both personally and professionally. I thought I had problems that were unsolvable and too big to even get started and so I felt at an impasse, like I guess this is my life now I'm just going to be stuck. And in the past I even did cognitive behavioral therapy. I did regular therapy. I'm on anxiety and depression medicine. Like I was like what else could I try? So I was almost at my wits end on what could I do to try something else and I was like, well, I'll give this a try. I tried all these other things and haven't really had fast improvement. So the feeling was I hate saying the feeling was overwhelmed, but it was a loss of hope. I just didn't think that. I thought this is where I am right now and wouldn't have any improvement.

Michelle Gauthier:

Yes, okay.

Michelle Gauthier:

So thank you so much for sharing that, and I think that's really going to resonate with people who are listening, because when the feeling is overwhelmed, it's to me that just means it's too big. Everything is too big, the problem feels too big and you can't just say, okay, I'm going to go solve overwhelm today. It's just, it doesn't work that way because it's too big, and you know now from going through the program. But if people are listening and are like I don't even know how to begin to solve this, the first thing is calling what it is it's overwhelm and then noticing that when you think about solving it, it just feels too big. And when it feels too big, you do nothing, you start to just accept and feel hopeless about it, which is such a sad place to be.

Michelle Gauthier:

I know I felt super stuck when it was me thinking okay, I chose this, I chose this life for myself, I chose this career, I really wanted to have kids and this is just how it has to feel. But it's not true, is it? It's not true at all. Yes, yes, okay. So you were really skeptical in the first meeting. So we have 12 sessions for everybody listening. We have 12 sessions for everybody listening. We have 12 sessions. So on the first one, you were like I don't know about this, this seems weird. When did you have a moment that you're like, oh, I actually feel kind of better.

Jessie Weiss:

I think it was. You know, I had my book in front of me and I think it was lesson four. Well, yeah, because before that we did some meditating and vision boards and I was like this lady is crazy, but I will do everything she says Because I wanted to have the backup. Like I did everything you said and it didn't work. So that was like I'm going to follow what she said and have this as proof.

Jessie Weiss:

But it happened in lesson four, which was what is in and out of your control, and I don't know what happened.

Jessie Weiss:

It like clicked something in my brain and I just started thinking about so many of the things that were maybe upsetting me in my life were out of my control and I was starting like I could just feel those things falling away from me and weights falling off of me, and that really started kind of the turnaround. So it did take till the fourth lesson for a glimmer of hope to happen. Yes, and and when we started, I think after that we started focusing on our feelings and not our thoughts, and that was also very eye-opening because I remember we had to share what are your thoughts about? Your problem and my problem was about you know I can't lose weight and I remember saying some of my thoughts out loud and you said back Jessie, would you talk to your best friend like that? Would you say those things to your best friend? Like no, I wouldn't. Why am I saying these to myself? And like fireworks went off, it was just why am I doing this?

Michelle Gauthier:

Yes, yes, and so I think those two things you said right there focusing on what's in versus out of your control, and realizing, wow, these things that are out of my control are having a lot of power over me right now.

Michelle Gauthier:

They're really making me feel overwhelmed, and I think it's important to point out that, like, let's just say, you were really stressed out about work and something was out of your control. Nothing changed about your actual work. So it's not like the world around you has to change or you have to change all these huge things in your life. It was a shift in your thinking that really made you feel so much better, and same with the shift in your thinking about why am I talking to myself like this? And it's not like we wake up in the morning and think you know what? I'm going to be really crappy to myself today, I'm going to really shame myself. But it just becomes a pattern, an unconscious pattern, and until we take the time to investigate it and work on it, it just stays with us and it makes me so sad to think about how women talk to themselves.

Jessie Weiss:

It made me sad to look back on it because I even I wrote down in there like would I say this to my best friend, and I remember like I physically wrote down you're a lazy POS. It's like, yeah, I was telling myself that all the time. No wonder I wasn't feeling good.

Michelle Gauthier:

Yes, exactly, and like is that the thing that's going to motivate you? No, but I do think sometimes that that's our intention, Like I have to really be mean to myself in order to motivate myself, but it doesn't work.

Jessie Weiss:

No definitely not. No, it definitely does not.

Michelle Gauthier:

Okay, let's pause on the vision board part, where you were like this lady is crazy. I'm just going to do this so that I can say I did everything. At the end I do have to say, just as a side note, I have an actual guarantee on the program, like if you go through the program and you do everything every lesson and you're like I didn't get any change, I literally will give people their money back. I'm like just come and try it and do the thing and if it doesn't work, I'll give you your money back. I've never had to give anybody their money back, but I appreciate you telling us the truth about how you thought that was really weird and were skeptical of the whole thing. Can you tell us a little bit about what was on your vision board and kind of how you felt when you were making that, because you'd never made one before?

Jessie Weiss:

Right, I've never made a vision board before and I carry it around in my office bag with me or my work bag all this time now because I like looking at it.

Michelle Gauthier:

Which I love it. She didn't help it up, you guys aren't on video, but I just got to see a peek of it again, I love it.

Jessie Weiss:

And the biggest problem.

Jessie Weiss:

I decided not to focus on it because you had us radar problems one, two and three and I said number one is basically impossible, and that was I wanted to move to Florida and keep my job and work remotely. I said that's not even going to happen, so I'm not even going to focus on, focus on and I decided to focus on being a healthier version of myself. And then, lo and behold, I on my vision board. I put all of the Florida things that I wanted to have happen and said you know, this is the area I want to live, this is my favorite restaurant there, so I want my backyard to look like. And on a trip to Florida, we found our dream house and we found out that we got it at the restaurant that I had on my vision board.

Michelle Gauthier:

It's just beyond amazing and that was crazy. The house that you had on there even looks similar to the house that you actually bought. That was so crazy. And this is all in a 12 week period. And then what happened with work?

Jessie Weiss:

All of it fell into place. I came up with a plan, I presented it to my manager. It all got approved within again that 12 week time period. So I'm moving the end of June down to Florida and I'll be coming back quarterly for work with the same job. And I literally thought that was an impossible task or possible problem. It could not be solved. And so I said I'm not even going to solve it. And you gave me the tools to really change my mindset during the course. Like this is possible and I have goosebumps right now. I feel so corny saying that, but like I envisioned it and made it happen and I really think it happened because of the change in my thoughts and mindset on it.

Michelle Gauthier:

Yes, absolutely. I think that's definitely true, and it's so cool that, even though that was kind of a side, you put that as a side thing to work on the tools that you were learning, and just the way you started looking at and thinking about your life, like, for example, it was in your control to ask if you could work remotely. It wasn't in your control to decide if that was going to happen or not. So I just think that's so awesome that you know, as an added side bonus, you've got the house in Florida and you get to keep your job. That's just amazing.

Michelle Gauthier:

so, even though you were skeptical, you stuck with it

Jessie Weiss:

and I even had one more funny thing about the vision board, another thing I put on there was a picture of me and my husband. We don't have kids. We have 10 nieces and nephews and I put a picture of us out to dinner with our three oldest nephews and niece and that was like my favorite dinner. They asked me to dinner to teach them about etiquette, which I think I mean it's cute and I love etiquette, and so I thought that was a one and done thing. And then at Easter they asked me to do it again. So we're doing it again in a couple of weeks and I was like I'm such a believer in the vision board I put, I put that out there. I didn't ask them about it, they came to me and I just think that I am sending out different vibes to the world, that I am like a happier person yes, that that is helping me in my work and personal life.

Michelle Gauthier:

That is so wonderful, wonderful, like, yeah, you're sending out the vibes of I'm open, I'm available to do these things, I'm happy. And it is funny. I read this. This was in a Martha Beck book. She did this experiment where she got herself into a really bad mood and feeling and energy and went to a coffee shop and just observed how strangers interacted with her, versus being like what you're talking about, where she felt happy and open and whatever, and without even talking to people, just the way people talk to her and treated her. It's like we're giving off a signal and that signal is something. And if you're thinking, I don't know what my signal is right now, it's very powerful to intentionally create the type of signal that you want to have to be in the type of energy you want to have. That's great. I love that. That's such a great story. So what would you say was the best thing that you learned?

Jessie Weiss:

Besides manifesting my life on a vision board. Outside of that, yeah yeah, the best thing I learned, and I really try to do, is focusing on the wins. Even when I have what I think might be considered a bad day, I usually can find a win in that bad day and that really lifts my spirits and I've tried to incorporate that just into my daily practice. On focusing on the win so that was the best thing. On the wind, so that was the best thing.

Jessie Weiss:

I also learned a few mantras that I try to say before responding to things and like would I volunteer my time and energy for this? If the answer is no, maybe I shouldn't do that. Also, you taught us you don't need to reply to an email or text message right away, and if I do feel the need that I had to reply right away, I can always say thank you. Let me think about it, because that was something I was over committing my time to things by always saying yes, and now I'm trying to take a pause and really focusing on does this fit what I want to accomplish with my life?

Michelle Gauthier:

Yes, that's perfect. And why do you think you used to say yes right away?

Jessie Weiss:

People pleaser number one. Although some other girls in our group also fit that description. Yes, yes, we were all people pleasing and I just said yes to everything, and now I really try not to. I just said yes to everything and now I really try not to. And it's funny that you say that my manager even commented on me and she goes good for you for saying no to this. I'm so proud of you here. I was my thoughts. She's going to hate me for saying no and the exact opposite happened.

Michelle Gauthier:

Like I'm so proud of you for saying no to this and you explained that it just doesn't fit with your time right now. They know you know that they're coming from a place where they investigate it. They thought about what they want their answer to be and then they tell you and that just feels good. As the receiver, too, I think we're all. We always have this thought that if I say no, they're going to be upset, mad, think I'm not responsible enough, not a team player. You know all these thoughts that we have about ourselves. That's great, great. So before you could, you learned how to take that pause, but before you could actually start saying no, we had to investigate the people pleasing, which is, of course, one of our lessons in there as well. Yes, okay, great. And what was your favorite thing about the coaching?

Jessie Weiss:

Well, I really enjoyed the group aspect of the coaching. I thought I was the only crazy person and I thought I was the only one having these thoughts. I'm overwhelmed. I can't get started with anything Like. Sometimes I would just come to work and sit here. I couldn't physically get started on doing anything. Well, it turns out that happened to everyone in our group. I didn't realize that I needed the empathetic emotions coming towards me as much as going away from me. I didn't realize how badly I needed that, to not feel alone in my thoughts.

Michelle Gauthier:

And.

Jessie Weiss:

I really thought I was the only person struggling with this, and then to find out everyone was struggling with pretty similar issues. Again, it made I keep talking about this weight being lifted off of me, but it made me feel so much better to not be alone.

Michelle Gauthier:

Yes.

Jessie Weiss:

Yes.

Michelle Gauthier:

Oh, that's so awesome. And one of the things that at the end of coaching I do a survey and I ask people you know kind of what happened and what other people they admire in the group. And something that I noticed in all the responses is each member said, oh, so-and-so reached out to me individually to encourage me when I was having a bad day. So everybody kind of starts to look out for the other ones as well. So you're getting all this great empathy and feedback and you're giving it, and there's just something about knowing that you're not alone. That is so freeing.

Michelle Gauthier:

Then you can be vulnerable, then you can ask for encouragement. I've seen you do that, where you're like okay, guys, I need you to give me some good feedback on this. I'm having a hard day, or whatever it is, and I think that's so awesome.

Jessie Weiss:

A safe space was created and I felt safe to share my personal issues with that group and receive the encouragement and it was nice that everyone wasn't just giving advice, it was we hear you, we know what you're going through. It's okay to feel that way. It's not okay to have those negative thoughts. It's okay to feel that way and that was very comforting to me.

Michelle Gauthier:

Yes, yes, agreed. So, overall, how would you say your life is different from 12 weeks ago?

Jessie Weiss:

from 12 weeks ago, I would say. Overall, I'm really trying to focus on consistency instead of perfection, and that is very helpful to me, I would say. My negative self-talk has drastically decreased, which I think makes me a lot happier of a person, and I really try to look for the wins, even in tough situations.

Michelle Gauthier:

Now that the group is over, do you see yourself being able to continue in those practices?

Jessie Weiss:

Yes, I do see myself continuing in these practices even though our 12 weeks has ended, because one I still work with those six other ladies. So that's super helpful that I feel like I have this embedded support system now and now that I see how my life and attitude has changed, it's motivation to not go back to the way it was. Yes, yes.

Michelle Gauthier:

And just like we have bad habits when we develop good ones, they just become habits too. One of my clients just said to me this week I was in a really stressful situation but I just didn't get stressed out and I just turned it into a positive and I handled it. She said I don't know how that happened. I was like, well, because you practiced a whole bunch, and then now where it used to be that you know you'd feel overwhelmed and not do your job or whatever it was, now it just automatically switches to the more positive path. So I think that's the great thing too, that the skills can keep on going and anytime you need like a brush up or a touch up, you can reach out to your group members, you can listen to the podcast, you can read a self-help book like there's so much available once you start opening your eyes to this world.

Jessie Weiss:

Yes, and I love that you gave us a physical notebook or workbook to go through, because I leave it on my desk and it does help me. I wrote in the margins all sorts of helpful tips, and so just re-looking at those has helped me along the way too. Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.

Michelle Gauthier:

Great, ok, I'm going to switch to ask you the two questions that I always ask everyone. That's awesome, great. Okay, I'm going to switch to ask you the two questions that I always ask everyone on the podcast, but before I do, is there anything else that I didn't ask you about coaching or anything you want to say?

Jessie Weiss:

I would just encourage anyone who is doubtful about group coaching or coaching in general, to give it a chance and actually go through with the exercises, even if they may seem silly to you, because, as Michelle mentioned, no one has come out of it not having a positive experience. So, even if you go in with a bad mindset, I really think that Michelle and her program will switch that mindset for you and make your life all the better for it.

Michelle Gauthier:

Oh, thank you, I appreciate that and I'm really appreciative of you being so honest that you were like this is crazy, she's crazy, this is silly. That's helpful. It really is helpful, because I think we always have a little bit of doubt about something, especially when it's weird, like a vision.

Jessie Weiss:

When you're asking me like what did I smell on my ideal day of? Like this is on some other drug.

Michelle Gauthier:

Maybe I need to be on it Like she seems suspiciously happy though. So maybe, but I wrote down the smell. Well, when you get to Florida and you get to your new house and that smells in there, you could be like I smell that beach.

Jessie Weiss:

I'm happy yeah that's right.

Michelle Gauthier:

That is a very specific smell, like that salty. There's just something. I can totally conjure it up. All right, and here are the two questions that I ask everyone who comes on the podcast Number one what's something that you can do to make yourself feel less overwhelmed?

Jessie Weiss:

I try my very best to not think about work when I'm not at work, and if I do think about work, I email myself whatever that thought is and let it go Wow that's great to think about it after.

Michelle Gauthier:

That is such a great idea. So how do you catch yourself in the moment Like, oh wait, I'm thinking about work, when I can't Well it?

Jessie Weiss:

almost happens to me every day in the shower in the mornings. Okay, it's like my to-do list goes off and right when I get out of the shower I just email myself those things and it's gone. And so I really try to say, hey, jessie, things and it's gone. And so I really try to say, hey, jessie, don't ruminate on what your to-do list is, put it out there so you can work on it later, but you don't need to think about it right now when you're getting ready.

Michelle Gauthier:

That's such a good tip because if you just had it in your mind in the shower all the way, getting ready, driving to work, all that stuff, you're not doing anything. You're just wasting your brain time on something. Yes, yes, one of my clients just told me the other day that she takes her phone in the shower in case she has to like answer a text or send herself an email. I was like please stop doing that. So when you said in the shower, I was like please tell me you also don't have your phone in the shower. I'm glad to hear yours is sitting to the side. Nothing is so urgent that it needs to be answered in the shower.

Michelle Gauthier:

I don't think I agree with you. Oh my gosh. And then what's something you consistently do to save time or do less?

Jessie Weiss:

I started this during our group coaching session. I started to pay for a meal planning service and it sends me a weekly calendar with healthy meals and the recipes, and it also comes with a pre-formed grocery list that I can also edit like if I already have something in the fridge. It literally saves me at minimum four hours every week and before I was spending so much time researching recipes making my grocery list. Now it's all done for me and I'm much happier. That's amazing.

Michelle Gauthier:

Is it a? Should we share the name? Is there like a particular service you would recommend it's called the Bean Collective? Okay, the Bean Collective. I will put that in the show notes in case anybody wants to take a look at that. That's great thing to share. You know you mentioned that your number one goal was to become a healthier version of yourself, and we talked a lot about the mental part of becoming a healthier version of yourself, but we didn't really talk about your results on this front of like eating healthier. I remember you did a challenge like a nutrition challenge. Do you want to talk about that a little bit?

Jessie Weiss:

Yes, that was through the being Collective. I did a 28-day challenge where we had educational components and also you follow this eating program. I'm actually doing a 10-week challenge with them coming up because I found it so helpful. I need to be on a plan. I found out to lose weight, and so this has been very helpful to me because I don't need to track anything. I'm not good at that. I just follow what they put in front of me and I don't have to do any other additional mental legwork for it.

Michelle Gauthier:

That is great, oh my gosh. So you get the email, you eat, you don't have to track it, you just eat what you make and then that's it.

Jessie Weiss:

Yes, how do you feel? I do feel a lot better because there's been a gap between the two programs and I don't think it was made a habit after just those 28 days. So I fell off of it and now that I'm back on doing the meal planning, I feel so much better. A lot more energy, sleeping better, and I think that my mantra from the goal of getting healthier. I have severe plantar fasciitis so I really love walking, but it is super painful for me right now. I'm working super hard through a chiropractor, podiatrist, stretching, to get that better, but I keep reminding myself you're working towards it. Don't be hard on yourself like, hey, you can't exercise right now. Focus on healthy eating and and don't be hard on yourself, your foot will get better eventually and then you can get back on track with the exercising.

Michelle Gauthier:

I love that. That's so great. It's a perfect example of what's in your control. You're doing all the things that are in your control. You're seeing the right people, you're making the healthy foods, you're trying to move towards it and your plantar fasciitis healing is out of your control and hopefully it's happening, but you're doing everything you can do to get it that way. So that's a great example. I love that and I love that you came to know about yourself that you do better on a program and that you don't really like to track stuff every day. And that is so important too. To be like I don't care what worked for somebody else. I have to think about me and know me and do what feels best to me.

Jessie Weiss:

That's right and that made me really close with another girl in our group. She also dislikes tracking things. In our group she also dislikes tracking things. We were laughing about family members who would try to, in their way, encourage us to track things and we talked about that in the group coaching saying hey, let them have their advice, but I don't need to accept it.

Michelle Gauthier:

Yes, that was also very helpful. Let them was a big phrase we used a lot in our coaching.

Jessie Weiss:

Actually my girlfriends, and I say that to each other now, oh that's so great, I love it.

Michelle Gauthier:

I love it, and your award from group coaching was the queen of wins, that's right.

Michelle Gauthier:

Yeah, because Jesse was the one who we go around and say wins every time to get ourselves in the mindset of noticing the good in our life, and she would be like, just a second, let me get out my list. And she'd have this whole giant list of wins and in doing so, inspired everybody else in the group to really focus on their wins and start writing them down during the week, because a lot of times people would say I know I had some, but I can't remember, and Jessie would be like let me get out my 17 item list of all the great things that happened to me this week. So you were very inspiring and it was so great to have you in the group.

Jessie Weiss:

It makes a big difference. Thank you. I saw a change not only in myself but also the six other women in the group and everyone's change in mindset. I don't want to say everyone had a negative mindset, but I do think that everyone came out more positive than they were to begin with. Yeah, absolutely. It was easy to see that.

Michelle Gauthier:

Yes, supposedly I don't remember where I read this, but supposedly like 90 something percent of the thoughts in our head are by default negative. So it's most likely that unless you've worked on it, you have that negative mindset. But once you've gone through it, then you have your little tribe, your posse of people who have done the same thing. Then you guys can have your secret positive club at work, oh my gosh. Well, thank you so much for being on. It was great to see you and it was so great having you in the group, and I appreciate you sharing your experience with the audience. Thank you.

Jessie Weiss:

Thank you for having me. I was honored to be asked.

Michelle Gauthier:

That's a wrap for today. I hope you enjoyed hearing Jessie's story. I know I did, and I absolutely love that she was able to change her life by changing the way that she was thinking about things and taking new actions. If you're feeling a nudge or this is appealing to you, the first step is to set up a call with me, a quick 15 minute call. I like to have a call with everyone before group coaching so that we can make sure that it's a great fit and that you can ask any questions before you commit and say yes to joining. So if you'd like to do that, I would love to talk to you. I have lots of spots blocked off this week. For that time, as we have group coaching open for registration this week, there is a link in the show notes and I would absolutely love to talk to you. Have a great week. Thank you for listening to the Overwhelmed Working Woman podcast. If you want to learn more about my work, head over to my website at michellegothiercom. See you next week.

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Michelle Gauthier

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