Pursue Reality Podcast

PSP 45 | The Gift of Worship & Confession - Spiritual Disciplines Series

Reality Church

In this honest, hope-filled episode of the Pursue Reality Podcast, Pastor Lindsey sits down with Worship Pastors Calvin and Ezra to unpack two practices that belong together: confession and worship. They discuss why ongoing confession is a grace-filled discipline for people who are already forgiven, and share how bringing sin into the light leads to healing, freedom, and deeper community.

From small-group moments of courageous honesty to the weekly rhythms that keep our hearts tender, the conversation shows how confession doesn’t push us away from God—it draws us near to the reality of His presence. You’ll come away with practical next steps for confessing to God and trusted friends, and a renewed vision for living a life of worship that reshapes your desires and strengthens your joy.

The episode closes with a moving benediction from the book, Every Moment Holy.

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Speaker 1 00:00:10  You're listening to the new reality podcast from Reality Church. Each episode is a conversation about what it means to be real people pursuing a better reality in Jesus.

Speaker 2 00:00:28  Welcome everybody to the Pursue Reality podcast. It is so good to have you back, especially in the series, that we are on talking about the spiritual disciplines. And as a church, we are in this journey right now of wanting to press in to being people who practice the spiritual disciplines or practices, as we've been calling them, that really tie our hearts to God and help form us to be more like him. And today I'm really excited because we're doing two disciplines that I think are really special. Confession and worship. Confession and worship. Hopefully the word confession did not scare you away from this episode. And I've got two special people that are experts professional, professional confessors. I actually have our two worship pastors here. I have Calvin himself. Hey everyone! Frequent flyer on reality podcast and I have Ezra from Reality City campus.

Speaker 3 00:01:27  Hey everyone.

Speaker 2 00:01:28  And they, not just lead us in worship, but are people that, walk in it and practice this in their daily lives, as well as people who love confession.

Speaker 2 00:01:40  and so I wanted to start with confession as we were thinking about this. and I'm excited to talk about this. We have been referring to Richard Foster a lot. He wrote a book called Celebration of Discipline, which we highly recommend. And I think that where people are listening hopefully will get this feeling because he calls confession a grace filled discipline which who doesn't want to be grace filled? Yeah. and I think it's something we don't talk about enough. And I would like to first start out when we think about confession. Or maybe another word is repentance. Ezra, what is the difference between, repentance and confession? You know, speaking, confessing our sins, the ways that we have wronged and strayed from God's commands in his heart. What's the difference between that for salvation? Because we know that we have to confess with our lips, you know, in order to be saved. That's part of salvation. Yeah. And now we're talking about it as an ongoing spiritual practice in our life. If we already confess for salvation, why are we still wanting to do it ongoing? What's the difference between maybe these two types of confession or repentance?

Speaker 3 00:02:53  I would say that the almost like stepping stones.

Speaker 3 00:02:56  I'd say confession is bringing something into the light. because for me, God can't heal. Like what we hide. Like, whatever we're hiding away is we're not giving him the opportunity to heal that. We're kind of holding on to it and allowing it to fester inside. so for me, confession is first and foremost bringing it into the light. And repentance is then the act of turning away from, yeah, that wrongdoing or the other sin that we feel like it's still lingering in our lives and, and then us turning away from it and changing and moving forward in a, in a new direction. yeah. I believe that when we give our lives to Jesus, it's not just like a prayer. Like in acts two, the people hear the gospel, preached by Peter and the apostles and like the response, like it says that it cut them to the heart, that they wanted to change. And they asked, like, what should we do to change? And Peter says, repent and be baptized.

Speaker 3 00:03:49  And there's it's it's this thing of like they they had come by the spirit of conviction. They've been convicted that they need something needed to change in their lives. And I feel like confession is like, okay, I'm confessing what what I've been doing, but then repenting is actually like turning away from it. And a big question, like you said is like, we're forgiven, but why are we still doing it? Like, why? Why am I still.

Speaker 2 00:04:09  Like, I'm forgiven? So why would I need to continue to confess and repent?

Speaker 3 00:04:13  Yeah. And like the thing that I come back to always is that we're saved by grace through faith in Jesus and Ephesians two eight and nine, it tells us that that would justify it were instantly justified when we gave our lives to Jesus, and we put our life into his hands. but then we go on a process of sanctification. We're being sanctified. We're learning to be obedient to the Holy Spirit. so that our inner and outer man can be transformed into this newness of life.

Speaker 3 00:04:38  Lord says we're a new creation. And and that's a process to become that new creation. and just as sin leads to death, as it says in Romans 623, it says, wages of sin is death. Righteousness leads to life. So when we're giving our lives to Jesus, the righteousness inside of us is leading us to life. but the big question that we have is like, oh, why is sin? Like, why is still sin lingering? Why am I still getting caught up in sin? and it's because we're on a journey. We're on a journey of being sanctified. And one day we will be glorified. And the scripture I wanted to kind of share with us is, is in Romans 728, Paul says, now, if I do, what I will not to do is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. I'll say it one more time. It says, now, if I do, what I will not to do is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.

Speaker 3 00:05:29  So like now, when we've been justified, we are now righteous in the eyes of God. However, because of the fall of man, sin still dwells in the earth. Sin still dwells in our natural beings, and therefore it's a nature issue. Like we, we, we have that sin dwelling in us, and therefore we have to go on this process with the Lord and the Holy Spirit to be sanctified. And and Paul is basically telling us like, it's your heart posture. If you are desiring to no longer do it, but you do it. He says it's no longer you who do it but sin.

Speaker 2 00:06:00  So it's turning from that. And I hear from you. It's it's almost like a discipline of freedom. Yeah. It's like walking into the freedom that Christ has purchased for us.

Speaker 3 00:06:09  Yeah. And things will get better and things will lead to life as we continually begin to continue to seek the Lord and the Holy Spirit. But just understanding and having grace ourselves, that it is a process and that, yeah, be encouraged that if there's a is a desire in your heart to not do the things that you're doing, then you're in a good place like the Lord is working in you.

Speaker 2 00:06:27  Yeah. It's so good. Yeah.

Speaker 4 00:06:28  There's so, so much to, like, unpack in confession and the reason behind it. And, like I, I think first of all, like, relationally, like, just think about any relationship, like you continue to confess your wrongs in a, in a relationship, like, yeah, in a marriage, especially if it's healthy, if it's healthy, we hope to do that. And God desires that kind of relational thing. But also, I love what you said, Ezra, about you brought up that verse, about it, it being the sin that dwells in you. Like it? It's a grace filled experience, because you're able to come back to the justification that you've already received. And Scripture tells us this isn't exactly it, but it feels like Scripture. Scripture almost tells us it's not you, it's the sin in you. You're battling against the sin in you. So it's not a it's not really a part of you necessarily.

Speaker 2 00:07:20  It's not your identity.

Speaker 4 00:07:21  It's not your identity. No, it's it's the nature. It's something that we as Christians, we need to continually battle against. And confession is, a very powerful, very. And Scripture promises that it's a healing, practice to engage in.

Speaker 2 00:07:39  It reminds me of that, when you think of salvation, we teach this at Reality Institute that, what Christ has done is he has freed us from the penalty of sin. That's justification. And from the power of sin. That's right. Now he is freeing us from the power of sin and will free us from the presence of sin. And when we go into our our, our next life, when this earthly life ends. So the the, the penalty is paid for. the power of sin is being broken. And this. And then the presence eventually will be gone. We won't deal with this forever. But that power. I think what I'm hearing from you guys is broken through confession, repentance. Like this gift God gave us to break that.

Speaker 2 00:08:23  So let me ask you, Cal, about, like, what does this look like? And, how like, do I have to confess every sin? Do I tell people, or do I just kind of whisper it to myself or think it in my head? Like what? What is practicing this as a spiritual practice look like in a Christian life?

Speaker 4 00:08:44  Yeah, I, I, I, I think all of the things that you said are actually. Yes. Okay. Right. Like Yeah. Even the the small, you know, sin is sin is innocent. But there are those smaller sins. As the human mind would, would consider. I also think God considers it that way. But there are smaller sins that require you to to have a moment. Oh, yeah. That. God, that wasn't right. So it's a prayerful practice a moment. of confession you know. but beyond that, like you just think about how you're increasing the, the effectiveness of confession. The more that you practice it, the more opportunities you take to do it, the more power there is in it.

Speaker 4 00:09:27  I think James says that confession confessing sins to one another covers a multitude of sins.

Speaker 2 00:09:34  Confess your sins to one another so that you.

Speaker 4 00:09:36  You will be healed.

Speaker 2 00:09:37  You will be healed. Yes. Thank you. Yeah. Together we can remember the verse.

Speaker 4 00:09:40  Yeah. That's great. But like that, that tells me that that confession in community is, is one of the most powerful tools against sin. Yes. Against darkness. and like, echoing kind of what you said, Ezra. Like, bringing things into the light is very powerful. Yeah. It's very freeing. Yeah. so.

Speaker 2 00:10:03  And how is that, like, for you? Is that something that you regularly practice? What has been your experience? Because to me, the idea of going to something like it feels almost easy by comparison. It shouldn't be to go to God. Yeah. Then to go to someone else and say that out loud.

Speaker 4 00:10:18  Yeah. I mean, it's it's very hard. And and in our Christian culture, in our American church especially, like confession is not a common practice.

Speaker 4 00:10:27  for me, I'm grateful to be in a small group that that has attempted to practice this. It's again, it's not always really easy, but recently our small group had this discussion. I actually came in, I had read scripture that morning and came to a small group, and I felt convicted like that. We should talk about idols. I was like, there are so many idols that. That we have in our lives. And we actually went around and we called each other out on their on each other's idols.

Speaker 2 00:10:59  All the year.

Speaker 4 00:10:59  One.

Speaker 2 00:11:00  Yeah. I mean, it should be more.

Speaker 4 00:11:01  Yeah.

Speaker 2 00:11:02  That takes high trust.

Speaker 4 00:11:03  Yeah.

Speaker 2 00:11:03  So you wouldn't go and do that with someone you just met casually?

Speaker 4 00:11:06  No. And but it it was sparked by confession. So like a few.

Speaker 2 00:11:11  Of us, the effect of.

Speaker 4 00:11:12  That super powerful. I mean, we we kept like it was everybody was well received and we prayed over each other and like, there was that like, you know, to get, charismatic.

Speaker 4 00:11:23  There was healing oil. Like, you get like that. Just that feeling. but it started with a moment of personal confession where somebody shared and and and it was very vulnerable. and then my, my wife, she's very much so, like, pretty disciplined. She was like, we should call like, I want you guys to call it out on me. And that sparked it. So we started going around, and I think this is something that that you should consider. And like people in the group were like, yeah, you're right. And then we just prayed over that person.

Speaker 2 00:11:54  Awesome.

Speaker 3 00:11:55  That's so cool. I think I think also like confession draws us like closer to God. Yeah. Like it doesn't draw us away. Like, in in the midst of sin. If you think about it, what is your response? Like, if I look at the past like my response was to hide away. Yeah. If you go back to the beginning, like when man first sin, what was their response? To hide.

Speaker 3 00:12:16  But in the midst of them hiding the Lord as gracious as he is, as a father, who is his response, he draws near. He comes into the garden and and his his question to him is, where are you? Like he's seeking them. and for me, that that should be our encouragement. Like when we confess or when we repent. Is that like it's an opportunity to draw nearer, to draw closer to God? because he'll bring that freedom. Like when we're honest. Like you're sharing in your connect group, like when you're being honest with each other and like when you're just bringing that into the light, like there's no more shame because, like, it's known. You know, we don't feel any guilt in our heart. And there's like, almost like a desire to like, oh, that felt good. That now. Now I should like anytime there is something, let me just let me just share it because then I'm, I'm making myself clean. Not on our own strength, but.

Speaker 3 00:13:02  Yeah. But in the Lord, like he's he's he's like making us clean in that way.

Speaker 4 00:13:05  Yeah. Recently I like preach once a year here, but I preached on the holiness of God and how it demands confession and, what I what struck me in my prep, that was so, like, something I never thought about, like, put it together before, but it was the idea that that place of confession is one of the thinnest spaces between you and God. Because Scripture, like especially throughout the Psalms, Psalm 51, says God, God doesn't delight in what you can do, what sacrifices I can make, but he delights in a broken heart. and that Psalm is David's confession, right? Yeah. Psalms also like near. Near to the brokenhearted. So, like when you come to God brokenhearted about your sin. It's a close knit. Like, there's that is a thin space between you and God.

Speaker 2 00:13:56  And I think when we do it in community, it is able to. It's like the incarnation of God right in our presence, where others can, mirror the heart of God to us, where we feel that connection, we feel that embrace, sometimes literally of a hug afterwards.

Speaker 2 00:14:15  Yeah. hearing from our friends, spiritual friends that the proud of us. I also, I'm just listening to you guys thinking of what a gift it is when people confess to me and how connected I feel to them. And I don't think we often consider that, we're thinking of ourselves, which is fine. I was at a spiritual retreat this week, and one of the. It was pretty big. Well, for me it was like 60 or 70 people and we didn't know each other super well. But one of the women in the group, we had like a time of feedback, raised her hand and confess something that honest, objectively was kind of embarrassing. Wow. Yeah. It wasn't. You know, sometimes we say stuff and everyone's like, that's not that big of a deal, but, you know, hard for you. And it was objectively embarrassing. But, man, the whole group instantly felt so connected to her and ministered. I mean, we all clapped for her at the end because we all felt and we felt in our lives.

Speaker 2 00:15:14  Oh, I've I've had moments like that. I've seen like that.

Speaker 4 00:15:17  Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 00:15:18  And now she. And it brings up for me. Wait. I should be confessing that, like, instead of hiding it under the surface. And it was like this whole bonding moment for the community, to do that. And often we think it breaks relationship with God or others, but what it actually does is it dropped like, makes God. It's that thin placed between us and God, the community. If you want to go deep with a the community. Yeah. Practice confession. Yeah. Maybe not every week.

Speaker 4 00:15:44  Yeah. Really? Yeah.

Speaker 2 00:15:46  Yeah. this is really, really good, I think. Richard Foster talks about confession. And I love that word. It is leading to that state of joy, freedom, and a new determination to avoid sin. It's not just feeling bad for ourselves, but it's actually this joyful. Like, I don't want to do that anymore. And it reminds me of people that do this to Moses.

Speaker 2 00:16:13  12 step people.

Speaker 4 00:16:15  Yes. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 00:16:16  Yeah. You want Alcoholics Anonymous narcotics and, you know, all the AA style 12 step groups. I just read a book on 12 steps by a Christian author, and I was just reminded I was like, these people practiced the Christian, the gospel. Some of them are barely. I mean, they don't even know if they're a Christian. And they are finding the benefit of naming your sin out loud. Returning from it, you know. Going to the people you wronged and saying. Sometimes I didn't just sin against God. I sinned against you. And that's how they broke free from their addictions.

Speaker 4 00:16:50  Yeah. It's amazing.

Speaker 3 00:16:51  I feel like it's like a declaration of like, we want to be part of the restorative work of God. Like, it's like our confession. Our repentance is a declaration. Like, I, I'm looking to get healed. I'm looking to to give this to God. And it's like whether it is publicly with those around us or whether it's a personal thing with God.

Speaker 3 00:17:08  I, I really believe that we're it's like a declaration. And that's just kind of saying like, this is what this is what I'm in for. I'm in for giving it to the Lord so that I can be healed.

Speaker 4 00:17:17  And it feels like a righteous rebellion against evil. Oh, like confession should feel that.

Speaker 3 00:17:22  Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 00:17:23  Yeah. Like I'm bringing this to the light.

Speaker 2 00:17:24  Yeah, it's. Yeah. It's such a declaration of this is who God is. Yeah. God full of grace. Forgiveness instant. Wow. Without reservation. So that leads into the second, spiritual practice of worship. Cal at its core, what is worship? It's a word we use in lots of different contexts, but scripturally. Biblically, what is worship when we are thinking about that?

Speaker 4 00:17:51  Yeah. When you study scripture, a lot of the time when you see worship, it the word for it is, is to bow down. So you think of it as a humbling, lowering yourself beneath where God is.

Speaker 4 00:18:05  So, and, and, and I think worship is, is a journey. And it's a, it's a relationship with all these things that we've already talked about in like, confession and repentance, like, it's a journey throughout that. But it starts from that place of, a posture of bowing down. You are God. and I am not, that's why Jesus prays, like, hallowed be your name. Like there's no other God like you. There's no being like you. It starts from that place. Yeah. And then from there on, it's this journey through, Your relationship to this God, because the the more holiness you discover of God, the more it reveals your holiness, which leads you to that confession, which leads you to, repentance, which sparks the journey of sanctification. And then that bubbles up gratitude for what Jesus has done for you. Not just that he saved you from your sin, but that he's also changing you. Yeah. And then you're grateful. Yeah. And you're in.

Speaker 4 00:19:05  You're returning. It's a response.

Speaker 2 00:19:07  Yeah. It's so good. Ezra, what would you add to that?

Speaker 3 00:19:11  I could hit you with some more definitions. the English word for worship. I'm not even going to try to say it, but it's. We'll skip or something. but basically, it's formed from the word worth ship to to show something worth and.

Speaker 2 00:19:24  What it's.

Speaker 3 00:19:24  Worth. What it. What? Yeah. What is the worth of God? And the other one is is Greek, which is Ascanio, which is to draw near and kiss. So it's like an intimate thing. But also if.

Speaker 2 00:19:34  You look at the word prostate. Right? To prostate yourself.

Speaker 4 00:19:37  Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 00:19:38  Yes.

Speaker 3 00:19:38  And like, in, like in this word, you kind of if you look at the culture of the time. Like drawing it to kiss. Even Judas kisses Judas on the cheek. There's, it's a sign of respect. but also a sign of love. Like. And I feel like the definition is like to bow like is like this reverence, this awe of God.

Speaker 3 00:19:57  Like showing that worth. What is the Lord worth? He's worth everything. But then this kind of respect and honor that we. We want to live a life unto the Lord. Like we want to live a life that's worthy of the Lord. yeah. And and in in, in in the word it says God, his spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth. So, like true worth it. True worship. Sorry. It is coming from a place of spirit and truth.

Speaker 2 00:20:22  Yeah.

Speaker 3 00:20:23  Yeah. So spirit is true. Worship is from the deepest place of love. Desire and devotion engages our hearts and not just our lips. And then truth. True worship aligns with God's word and character. Yeah. So it. It rejects empty ritual. It reflects a lifestyle shaped by Jesus. The word made flesh.

Speaker 2 00:20:40  That's so good.

Speaker 3 00:20:41  Yeah.

Speaker 2 00:20:41  So? So when I think of worship, I think of something we do on Sunday morning, part of our gathered experience gathered together with the body of the family of God.

Speaker 2 00:20:52  and it is that I think that is part is a huge part. In Scripture, I'm singing and, expressing our hearts to God. But how do we do this as a spiritual practice or discipline? So it's not just in the in that time slot on a Sunday morning. What does what does that look like for you guys, or have you seen people do that because, I think it's so transformative. We're bringing ourselves back to God, say, this is who you are. This is what you're worth. And bowing down to that, what? What does that look like? I'm not a good singer, so keep that in mind. Just keep that in mind.

Speaker 4 00:21:31  Yeah, it's I mean, Scripture tells us to to offer our, our bodies, our lives as, as living sacrifices and, and attitude of worship. So it's obviously much more than than. Singing songs that they would the songs would mean nothing if there wasn't life and testimony attached to them. so it's it's the way that you live your life.

Speaker 4 00:21:52  And to come back to that, that definition of. To bow down, it's to consider God's ways above your own and in everything that you do. it's to consider his way for you as the better way. Oftentimes, we live our lives. We don't realize how often we even we even justify itty bitty sins. Yeah. Like, if you if you had a moment. We had a conversation at small group the other night that we were talking about, like inappropriate scenes and movies. We were like, if we paused the movie and we said, God, should I be should this be entering my brain? We'd know that God would say, no, this is not good for your brain. This is not good for your body. Yeah, we then go, but it's not that bad. And we hit play, so we just actually exalted ourselves above God and that.

Speaker 2 00:22:35  So it's actually in our very life of choices, bowing down and saying, Your God, you know what's best. Yeah, you're you are truth and goodness.

Speaker 2 00:22:45  Yeah. And aligning ourselves with that is worship. Yeah. Yeah. That is so good. how it it does something for God's heart. What does it do for our hearts? How does. Do you think worship benefits us, or is this something we just do for God?

Speaker 4 00:23:02  Yeah. I mean, I think God obviously delights in it, but it does, seemingly from my angle, does seem like it's better for me. Like it benefits me so much more because I I'm just giving renewed perspective. And I think the Spirit of God does something when we when we worship, when we posture ourselves, when we do these practices of confession and worship. the I love the Scripture and Philippians, one of my favorite verses the spirit gives you power and desire to do what pleases him, so it enables you. It gives you power to be able to do it, but it also gives you the desire. So man, I don't even have the desire to do this yet. The Spirit of God can give it to me.

Speaker 4 00:23:45  so.

Speaker 2 00:23:46  so worship doesn't just isn't just an expression of our hearts. It actually trains our hearts to desire him. Yeah. And to that beautiful desire, what we actually really want to desire in the first.

Speaker 4 00:23:57  And to be honest, who we actually really want to be. Especially if you're a Christian. Like, you know what? Who you want to be. Yeah. the more.

Speaker 2 00:24:03  You become, like the guy you worship.

Speaker 4 00:24:05  You become like Jesus.

Speaker 3 00:24:06  Yeah, I think like, yeah, you're right. You're you're hitting the nail on the head. I feel like I feel like when we when we worship even, like, practically if you're looking at even singing like for, like when we're worshiping, when we're singing the songs that we sing on a Sunday, like we're reminded of who, like, the Lord is like we're reminded of who he is in our lives. And then out of that place, of being reminded of who he is. We're then reminded of who we are. Yeah.

Speaker 3 00:24:28  And, like, finding our identity in Christ. Like. I feel like it's so key. yeah. If I'm just looking at from it, like, from a practical point of view. But I think you're spot on. Like, it is a lifestyle. It's. It's like, how am I living my life for the Lord? Like like I am, I am, I am I living a life devoted unto the Lord? Or is it a life that's kind of has the Lord in it? But it's it's it's more of the world.

Speaker 4 00:24:52  Yeah.

Speaker 3 00:24:53  Does that make sense? Yeah. So like, we're we're giving our our lives and our devotion to God and like, like you're saying, like the things I'm watching. Like, is that honoring the Lord? The things I'm like, even putting in my body. Is that honoring the Lord? The way I'm, like, acting or responding to my to my wife and my loving my wife and my loving my friends. Is it.

Speaker 2 00:25:11  Is it an act of.

Speaker 3 00:25:11  Worship? It's an act of worship.

Speaker 2 00:25:12  Yeah. It's so good. And I think if people listening are, wanting to lean to a spiritual discipline, I think that would give us, something to think about is not just engaging. I think it can be engaging and is part of it. Putting it on worship music, worshiping along in your private time, but allowing your whole life to be an act of worship. and aligning ourselves with that, I think that's a discipline we could lean into forever for the rest of our lives, and it would bring joy to God's heart and it would change our, our lives. Well, thank you guys so much. I wanted to just end this conversation with a prayer of worship. and if that's okay with you guys.

Speaker 4 00:25:56  Is absolutely welcome.

Speaker 2 00:25:57  So if you're listening, you can, if you're driving, don't close your eyes. But if you're able to actually just sit and listen just for a few seconds to take this in and just agree with this prayer. I am reading it from a book called Every Moment Holy.

Speaker 2 00:26:14  from McKelvey. This is from volume one. It's one of his benedictions in this book. And so, yeah, just I pray that as I read this, it would be worship straight to our father's heart because we do love him. So it says. He writes, our thoughts of you, O Lord, have been too small and too few, for your claim over creation is vast. You are the Lord of Antarctica, the King of California, the King of the Scottish hills and the King of the Nile. You are the weaver of unseen fabrics of the world. You're the Lord of the atoms, the ruler of electrons, the lord of gravity, the king of quarks. Your dominion enfolds the earth and rises beyond it to the farthest extremes of the stars. You are the Lord of the vast empty spaces. You're the king of the constellations, the black hole king, the lord of Novas, exploding Lord of speeding light, high King of galaxies, King of Orion and King of the moon. And still, even still, our thoughts of you have been too small and too few.

Speaker 2 00:27:21  You are the God of justice, the God of wisdom, the God of mercy and the God of redemption. You are the Lord of love. All of this is true, but our thoughts of you are still too few, for our minds are too small to conceive of them all, let alone to contain them. You were before all things, you created all things, and in you all things are held together. There is no corner of creation you will fail to redeem. You are the Lord of lords and King of Kings. Oh Jesus Christ, our King of everything. Amen.

Speaker 4 00:27:57  Amen. Amen.

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