PRP 57 | How to Hear God's Voice

In this episode of the Pursue Reality Podcast, Pastor Lindsey sits down with Pastor Connor and Pastor Joel to talk about the real power of God's voice and our need to listen. From sharing the incredible ways God has spoken to each of them in the past, to the rhythms in which God speaks to them uniquely, to the practices anyone can implement to tune your eat to the Lord. 

This conversation offers both encouragement and clarity for anyone longing to grow in spiritual discernment. Whether you feel distant from God, unsure of His direction, or simply want to deepen your relationship with Him, this episode invites you to slow down, create space, and learn how to recognize His voice in the midst of everyday life.

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 You are listening to the Pursue Reality Podcast from Reality Church. Each episode is a conversation about what it means to be real people pursuing a better reality in Jesus.

Welcome everybody to the Pursue Reality podcast. It is great to have you here. I've got two amazing friends with me. I got Pastor Connor woo woo, and I got Pastor Joel. What's up everybody? And my name is Lindsay and I'm one of the pastors here at Reality Church Also. And we are super excited. I'm excited.

So excited because we're, we just finished two weeks of our pursuing, God series where we talked about hearing the voice of God. Mm-hmm. I think we probably could have spent two months on it. Yeah, for sure. I think everybody would love to. We felt that way. I think everybody else felt that way. And so we had already planned on coming in here to the pod and talking a little bit more.

Yeah, just unpacking it, unpacking so many other directions we could go. I think a lot of people. Even after the services last two weeks were asking me questions. Oh, yeah, yeah. About so many things, and I think that's really legitimate. I, this is something that's like, so on people's hearts Yeah.

You can tell, because you know, like there are some Sundays where people walk up to you after and they're like, you know, wanting to dialogue about the message or whatever. But this is like, nope. People walk in straight up being like, Hey, let's talk. I know I need, I need more. Yep. Yeah, for sure. So, so let's talk.

Yeah, let's talk about it. I think this is. People wanna talk about too. 'cause it's a special part of our relationship with God. Yeah. Like it's part of our, inheritance, our promise, whatever language you want to use, that if we're followers of Jesus, he promises he's gonna speak and we're gonna hear him.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Um, and. How, how do we do that though? It feels, yeah, sometimes a little bit more difficult. So I thought we could start a little bit with how we know it's God and talk a little bit more about that. Yeah. Like, um, pastor Joel or Joe, sorry, it's with the l and without the l. Pastor Joe two weeks ago was, uh, talked a little bit about Elijah.

And the still small voice. Yeah, that gentle whisper, which I, I love that language. 'cause I do think generally when we hear God's voice, it's not riding in the sky. It's not a burning bush, whatever we wanna call it. Message in your Cheerios. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So that would be really, I don't know if that'd be creepy or amazing.

Yeah, a little bit of both. So, and then yesterday I was, when I was talking, I was talking about we all can, God has like an accent with each of us. Mm-hmm. Kind of a unique way that he speaks that we start to recognize and like, oh, I know that that's not just my own thoughts or my indigestion. Like that's God speaking.

So I wanna start with that. Curious. Mm-hmm. What is the accent? Uh, that you hear God with it when you hear that accent? Uh, you know, it's God, I said that it's this confidence or this inner knowing. I just know. Mm-hmm. This is not my own thought or my own idea. This is God speaking something. Connor, what's that for you?

Yeah, I, you said it a little bit earlier. I, it's, I always use the, it's not my own thoughts. I would've never thought of that. And I use the example, I've, I've shared this story on stage before, but when I feel like I got a prophetic word from my son when he was. When he was still, uh, in, in my wife's belly, um, my firstborn Roman.

And I just had this, this sense that he was gonna know God's voice like an old friend. And I had never heard that before. It's not a phrase I've ever used, ever. And so, and, and so there's this sense of like this. It's in my head, but it's this outside voice. Mm. That is, that is so gentle. Um, and kind and caring, but also for me, it's, it's not just confidence.

Um, it's like this power, it sounds so crazy interesting. Yeah. Um, I, I, it's almost, uh, to be like a little, like charismatic. It's like the, the oil like. All like, just flowing. Yeah. Through me and in me. I, it sounds so intense and crazy, but it's not always super intense and crazy, but there is just like, I always say it like this.

Oh, God's on that. Mm-hmm. Like it's just, oh God, just god's on that. You have sense, God's on that. Yeah. There. And it's this, it's similar. It's a confidence. It's at peace. It's um. Like, yeah. It sounds almost too, you recognize your own thoughts. Yeah. And you're just very familiar. Oh, I would think that I, yeah.

And this is, this is, I have an awareness of, of my own thought patterns. Yeah. I'm, that's good. Like, I would never have thought of that. I, I'm not that smart, you know what I mean? So I would've never done that. What about you, Joel? How, what's the accent for you? Yeah, I, I think most often the accent for me starts with a desire that's in my heart.

That was a big part of the series that we were, that we've been talking about is, is, you know, what are we desiring from God? Mm-hmm. It starts as this little desire inside my heart for something, and that grows and grows and grows, and the more that it grows, the more that I'm asking God. God, is this something that I just want so badly or is this something that you're wanting for me?

And as I'm asking God, that, um, a an accent, you know, a, a place that I like to go to be able to hear God's accent more is actually go to people that I trust. Um, and sounds good. When I really, really hear God's voice is if I don't go to people. But they come to me and they start saying the same thing and then I go, oh, this is definitely from God.

Yeah. So that's kind of how I feel it. I have to say like, you know, sometimes we can get on these podcasts and we have to like think of something that say and something like that. But as you're saying that Joel, I'm like, oh, that's so true for you. Like you wrestle through it, which is so funny about the voice of God is like you almost pilgrimage you journey with God of this little seed.

But you take that step of faith, it, it, it, it's just prevalent through your life. And, and what I, I've seen as your friend and, um, you, you get this. I don't know if this is God, is it me? Am I just being dumb? Like yeah, that's been me my whole life. Like you always say that. You literally say like, am I just.

Am I doing this for me? Yeah. And then you pursue it, right? You literally go after it. Even, even with how I got saved, you know, I was seven years old. I felt like I heard the voice of God literally say to me for, for no reason at all. I'm sitting there in a high school cafeteria that our church was meeting at, and I feel like God says to me as a 7-year-old Joel.

It's time, but I, I was like, ah, I'm seven. I don't know what to think about that, but I just felt like something like that. So what did I do? I, I go to my parents, I say, mom and dad, this happened, you know, whatever. And they confirmed like, yes, that's God speaking to you. And then it's just action from there.

Yeah. I think that's really, really good. And I think it's such a reminder to me that. It's, it's not, I feel like sometimes when we tell these stories by hearing God, we say it with such like clarity and then this happened and it was easy and I understood and then I knew. And oftentimes discerning God's voice takes a little bit of time.

Mm-hmm. It's a little bit of wrestling. Um. And it's not just this simple, straightforward thing, and that's totally okay. Mm-hmm. That's totally, totally okay. Yeah. So how do you have, okay, let me ask a question. Go ahead. Have you guys ever missed it and you're like, this is God, and then you realize that definitely wasn't God?

Yeah. Every girl before my wife, dude, I'm not joking. I read, I read in my journal entry the other day, sorry. Uh, I said, and Lord, I'm 98% sure you want me to marry this girl. Well, that 2%, you know that that 2% was, yeah. Oh my gosh. But it is true. I mean, like, come on. So what did you learn from that? Like looking back?

Yeah, I, I learned, um, there is a distinction, like, so I feel, I think an, uh, your relationship with God and hearing his voice is an emotional thing. You cannot negate those two things. Yeah. People want to say it's, it shouldn't be emotion. It is, it is. It is. It is an emotional thing. Thing, and it, it brings about a certain confidence in you.

Yeah, but it's exactly what we were just saying with Joel. There is a pursuit of God. You should not just leave it there saying thus sayeth the Lord. Um, and, and leave it to that. Um, it should have a, like any prophetic word in first thesal, I think it's first or second Thessalonians that says to test prophecy, it should be tested in some way, shape, or form.

As simple as, you don't need to go to the elders of the church, but you can go to your friend who loves Jesus and say. Hey, so I feel this way. What do you think? And, and, and let them speak into it. Your parents, your friends, your pastor, whoever it is, it, there's a journey that goes along with the. The initial.

Okay. I feel like I'm sensing the Lord on this. Yeah. What my mistake was, it stayed in my journal and it stayed within me. Mm. If that makes sense. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's, that's, you said this in your sermon yesterday. It, that's not how the voice of God should work all the time. A lot of the times God speaks to a community.

Yeah. It speaks through somebody. Yeah. Like the prophets were not. Uh, hearing God's voice just for themselves. Most of the time they were hearing for Israel. And so when you hear God's voice most of the time, like a lot of times it's like, gimme a word for my next season, God. But really it might be for, for, for your community.

So I say that to say I kept it, that, that voice Yeah. When I got it wrong, it always stayed with with me. Yeah, that's good. What about you? Have you ever missed it or sense like I, I lean more toward the skeptical side of things. Yeah. So it's a little hard for me to. To, to, to miss it in the sense of like you say, oh, this was God's voice.

Yeah. And then I, I more so miss it in the sense of like, I miss hearing God's voice. Sometimes there have been, uh, 'cause you're not listening to it. Yeah. 'cause I'm not listening, right? Yeah. Yeah. There have been one or two times where I do, um, I, I, I don't necessarily think, oh, well I guess I misunderstood, or that, that wasn't God.

It's actually more so I just took it and I said, well. I haven't heard an answer on that one yet, so I'm gonna go ahead and put a little push pin in that, in, in, in the wall. And so, like one of those for me is at some point, um, we were actually on all a, a staff trip and I felt like I heard from from God that some kind of thing in my ministry career at some point is going to involve some sort of thrift clothing ministry.

I don't know what that is. I don't know why I heard that. That hasn't come about. Nothing has happened ever from that. But I just felt like I heard the Lord say that, and so I'm just waiting on that little That's, that's a little sticky note. Push stick pin. Yeah, stick a pin in it. We, we do sometimes. Yeah.

Like it has to mean something now. I know. I have missed it. Yeah. And completely like, totally. And one of the things, a couple things I have learned, one is I heard God and I didn't follow up the question. Okay, what does that mean? Like, I probably did hear God accurately, but then I assumed what that meant.

Mm. And that's kind of where I missed it. It didn't slow down and say, okay, what does that mean? I look back and I was like, oh, God was speaking to me. But then I was like, I'll take it from here. God. And I kind of made a lot of assumptions. Um. I also have just flat out missed it, and it was just my own emotion or my own desires.

I just wanted it to be true. And honestly, those were really good experiences for me. Mm-hmm. Like as long as you're not doing something stupid, like. Prophesying. Yeah. Over somebody's like marriage or I don't know, like really investing millions of dollars. Yeah. Millions of dollars and some and like wouldn't you rather that and know now on the other side of things I do.

'cause now I know like when I met, oh, that's what that felt like. And I could see, oh Lindsay, your emotions were really shaping what you wanted God to say. And now when I get in those situations, I recognize it really quick. Like, oh, Lindsay, stop. Slow down. Truly listen to God and not what you just want him to say.

So it's actually been really helpful for me to miss it. Discernment. Yeah. In that, and it was, it was also humbling. It was also humbling. It's humbling. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. So, okay, we're talking a lot about hearing. Let's talk a little bit about when you're not hearing Mm. Or God, you know. I think of Paul, like he gets this word from God, you're gonna go to the Gentiles.

And then he is like, okay, now I gotta go to the Gentiles. And it seemed like there was moments he was, wasn't quite sure what to do. He's always like, oh, I wanna go visit them. And then, nope. And then, you know, I'd like to go here and nope. And should do that. And then I would like my life to be full of prosperity.

And God's like, Nope. Like there's a lot of like. He got like this clear word from God, but even then there's a lot he didn't like. He had to work out. But then sometimes we just are, it's dead silent. It's just dead silent and we're feeling stuck. And you stood up in church and asked the, and the pastor prayed that you would hear God's voice that week and nothing happened.

And all your friends heard something, but not you. It still felt like silence and maybe even, you gotta make a decision about a job. Mm-hmm. You gotta make a decision. There's no, just hold tight. A decision has to be made. Mm-hmm. What do you do? Because I feel like we've all been in those spots. Yes. I think.

There's so many things going in my mind right now. I'm gonna try and keep it narrow, but we'll fill in the rest. Yeah. I think, um, not every decision is a, a god eternity changing decision. It may feel like it. Mm-hmm. Like, it, it, it, when you look back in the past, you're like, that job decision, it actually really wasn't that huge.

It really didn't change my life that drastic. Now I'm not. Downplaying people's emotions and things like that, especially when they are, are big things. But I do think, God, there is a, there is space when God doesn't speak. It's kind of like, it's up to you as long as you're not sinning. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean?

Mm-hmm. Like, there is, there is something in that direction. Um, the other thing is God is always speaking to us because we do have his word. Mm-hmm. And if you are following his word, at the end of the day, you're not gonna make a big mistake. You're not. Uh, this was actually a rev actually. This kind of, uh, reminds me of a time where I felt like I had to go every step that God wanted me to follow.

Like there was, there was Jesus' footprints in the sand and I had to put my feet right where he was leading me. And I'm trying to remember the passage in one Corinthians, but that there's this idea of sailing in, in first Corinthians or second Corinthians, and, and this idea that God is steering this ship and.

I had a pastor tell me one time, as long as you are steering in the general direction yeah. Of God's calling in your life, then you're doing fine. You're doing great. And so you, and with the voice of the Lord, whatever he said to you previously, if you are heading in that direction. Then you are doing okay.

If God doesn't say anything to me, that sounds like you either are going in that direction or that door's closed, whatever it may be, but you just keep doing the, the normal things that a Christian does, being community, reading God's word, praying to him, taking communi, whatever it is, it's the normative practices of, of the church.

You just keep doing life. Yeah. You keep raising your kids, you keep, you know, um. That doesn't help a lot of people, but I do think that gives confidence in that like, man, some of these decisions are kind of up to you. Yeah. You know what I mean? I think God's okay with Yeah. Like he loves us to express our desires and say, yeah.

I think I prefer this job. Yep. Than take the job. Yeah. I just want, I want, I wanna echo that and I wanna say something that Pastor Calvin has said before, and this really helped me when thinking about this. Um, you know, if you're picturing a door and you've got open and closed doors and you've got ones that open and ones that close, and ones that you can walk through, there are some times where God's gonna have a multiple open doors, multiple different options, and you've gotta decide whether or not you're gonna walk through.

Just because you choose to walk through one doesn't mean that if it's the wrong one, suddenly the Holy Spirit leaves you on the other side of that door. Yeah, it's really good. Like if you're walking with God, you're living by the word, you're, you're, you're reading what he has to say to you. You're walking in community.

You're going to people that you trust. If you're doing that, the Holy Spirit lives inside of you in a way that he's not going to leave you behind. So when you walk through that door, whatever door you're walking through. He's going with you. Yeah. I think that I, I do think that we, we just put a lot of pressure on ourselves that God's putting.

Yeah. Like if in the job situation or moving somewhere, I don't know what it is. Like if there was a clear thing. Like God's not trying to trick you and be like, oh, you didn't listen well enough and not gotcha you like I think sometimes we think God is like that. Yeah. And if he's silent, there might be a lot of reasons for that.

If you go back to the last clear word, he spoke and use that. Use the last clear word. Maybe God is saying, Hey, I would like your thoughts on this. I had a, my leader for many years in South Africa always told the story that he, when he met who would become his wife, he was praying, you know, as we do like, is this the one?

Yeah. Like, tell me am I supposed to marry her? And he just kept asking God like, am I, what do you say? What do you say? And he felt God distinctly say. What do you think? I don't have to marry her. You do? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I actually was like, yeah, 'cause it's you get married and then you're like, you made me do that.

No, but there are, I think God takes great joy in saying, Hey, you know, what are your thoughts? What's the wisdom that I have equipped you with outta scripture? And just by my spirit? And if there really was this like just terrible decision. God's gonna, he's gonna tell us. And even if we missed it somehow, like you said, the spirit's still with us, he's gonna help us.

Course correct. It's not gonna be the end of the world. It's, it's gonna be okay. But I would say if you make, just take, make a step. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Just God can close doors and open doors. So He is, you're like, okay. This is the job. I'm just, I don't know what else to do. I'm taking Job A instead of B, and as soon as you step there, God, they tell you, oh, actually we're not offering you job.

You're like, okay, God. Yeah, there you go. I guess it's B Yeah. Yeah. God's not trying to, um, I think sometimes we think so much of this, like destiny and, and, and yes, the, the Walk with Jesus is a pilgrimage kind of thing. At the end of the day, I. God desires a relationship with us. He's not trying to trick us.

And so I think of it, uh, you know, I have a, I have a 2-year-old at home. I love when he calls my name and I love, he'll ask me questions one day when, when he's a little bit older. And I think as a, as a dad, I just want that relationship with my kid. Like, even if he kind of knows the answer or he and I go, buddy, you, you decide, you get to pick.

Mm-hmm. I think God actually desires us to ask the question more than anything because it means that we're in a relationship with him. And so, so many times we're like, show me my destiny, Lord, do it, and then do a new thing in me. And we're like, and he's like, I just want. To be with you. Yep. And, and, and so much of you said this the other day, and you said this a little bit in your sermon.

So much of hearing God's voice is not a decision. It's actually him saying to you, you're my son. You're my daughter with whom I'm well pleased with. Yeah. And I love you. Like yeah. It stop using him as a, as a navigator or a genie. Like see him as your dad. Yeah. Like hearing his voices tasting and seeing that the Lord is good.

Yeah. You know? Yeah. That's really, you think about the life of the disciples and you think about the people who. It started the early church. I mean the, the, there, there, there were times where it was clear, but there were so many times where they were just having to say, okay, we're gonna take a bold step of faith and, and, and make a decision that we think Jesus, when he was here would have made.

Mm-hmm. I think too, if this is causing you a lot of stress or distress, I would say slow down. Maybe be, pay attention more to the stress or distress than the decision. Because so much of this will bring up issues of do we really trust God? You know, do we know how to be with him and relate to him? And it's, it's hard.

But if we have, I would even say if you have a lot of like. Relationship, pain and brokenness. In your past, you might find that hearing the voice of God brings up some particularly hard emotions and feels particularly complicated to you. Um, if you had parents that were untrustworthy and. You know, gave you the silent treatment, all that stuff.

Our relationship, our human relationships feed into how we relate to God, and sometimes we're like, oh, God just told me he loves me and didn't tell me what to do. Yeah. He's trying to establish trust with you. Yeah. So that in the future you can come to him and not be as anxious or fearful or in crisis about every decision.

And that's okay. If you're in that place, there's. Welcome to the club, but I do think to just slow down and receive from him and hear his voice and what he wants to say to your heart and soul is a good starting place. Um, because we get really worked up about the decisions and it's, the reality is sometimes I'm gonna say something a little hard, do it, we're, it's not hard to hear because God is silent.

It's hard to hear because we're very wounded. Mm-hmm. And he's wanting to work in those wounds so that in the future we can just be a little bit more in tune to him and. And that's not blaming you if you're listening or any of us. It's just the brokenness of our world, and that's totally okay. Um, but it's not okay in the way that God wants to leave you there.

Yep. Mm-hmm. And he wants to move you through that. And so yeah, I maybe would encourage you to reframe. And look at the problem a little differently and say, okay, what God, what do you wanna do in me as I'm trying to hear your voice as far as decisions or relationships or whatever it is that you're asking him.

So would you guys, would you guys, would you rebuke me about that? No. No. I think the, the only thing I would say about that is, um, God cares more about the person you're becoming than the things that you do. And so it's it. Hearing the voice of God should be kind of like what you said. It should be a transformative relationship that turns you more into the likeness of Jesus than, Hey, how do you.

Get this next job. Yeah. At the end of the day. And so that means being a son, being a daughter of, of the team, he, he doesn't wanna be our Ouija board or our Magic eight ball, or our astrology. Yeah. He wants to be with us in full communion and communication with us. Um, and he can, he wants to lead us too.

Mm-hmm. But that's not the only thing he wants to do. Um, so let me ask you guys this final question. If someone wants to grow and hearing God's voice this month. What's one simple practice that they could start with or implement just in the next four weeks? Something simple that's not too complicated.

Maybe I could start. Yeah, sure. Yeah. I, I would say one simple practice you could do is to actually engage in community, um, and find Christian friends. That and start working on that. 'cause I think that brings a lot of peace. It helps us grow in hearing God's voice. Um, if you're isolated, if you're trying to figure it out all on your own, um, really invest in those relationships and start talking openly about like.

I'm talking community that says, Hey, you know, this is what I was, felt like God might've said to me this week. And people can encourage and pray and help you process. I think that would, in the long run, it's not maybe gonna be something this month that's gonna magically make everything easy. In the long run.

You will be so thankful that you have Christian community, um, French. Friendships where they're Christians, um, that will really help you. So that's what I, that's one suggestion I would give. What about you, Joel? Yeah, 100%. I think that silence and solitude is a huge factor in hearing the voice of God. And if you haven't gotten the chance to just take.

I don't know, 10 minutes. Even as a starting point, even if it's a car ride and you like, man, just in a car, I, I, I gotta listen to my podcast. I gotta put something on just, and here's the thing. When you're practicing silence and solitude, you don't have to start with God. I'm practicing silence and solitude.

Well, you speak right now. No, you can literally just stay, just, just go silent. Yeah. And just, just, you can let your mind wander if you need to, but you can not think about anything if you need to. And at the end of that 10 minutes, then ask God. God, do you have anything you would like to say to me? Yeah.

Chances are you're gonna start to hear from him from that. Yeah. Really good. One thing, Connor, I feel like a million in my mind right now. Um, I'm just going to share what I like basically did this morning. Um, I got myself in a space. Uh, that I love, that makes me most comfortable with God. Um, and I did like all my favorite things that I like to do with God.

I, I blasted worship music. I like sang my favorite songs. I just got my eyes set on Jesus. In, in whatever. Maybe it's for you. It's like a written prayer that you have. I mean, it's your very Bible verse, whatever that reminds you of how much you love God. And so I just got my mind set on him and I just began to pray.

Um. And just, and just kind of let my, my mind go and, and run and just talk out loud to God, like over and over and over again. Even if it kind of didn't make sense. Some of it might have been heretical, I don't know, but just kind of rolling. And then, um, I would stop and say, Lord, simple prayer. Your, your servant is listening.

Just like, like Samuel was saying, and, and for Samuel. And I would then write down, this is what I would do this month. I would ask the Lord to speak to you after, kind of like that, um, comforting space. You setting your eyes on Jesus. Write down like it, it can be silence and solitude. You can have worship music playing.

You can have an instrumental, you know, whatever pad playing behind. That's what I like to do. Me too. Um, the Holy Spirit shows up. No, I'm kidding. Um, but um, and then I would just write down my thoughts. Write 'em down. Mm-hmm. If it's a scripture that comes to mind, you know when your mind is wandering. So like, just write that down.

Write down, I was thinking about doing the dishes because my wife's on her way, or my husband's on the way home. Write that down. But also write down the, the, the, the people that come to your mind. Text them. Like just say, Hey, I was thinking about you. You said that yesterday in your sermon. Um, the scripture that comes to mind, the picture that comes to mind.

Write those things down for, do it for a month and maybe have a close friend that you just report those things to or follow through with the thought. It's a, a text to the friend. It's a, uh, not going to the grocery store like you shared yesterday. Mm-hmm. It's the, whatever comes to your mind. Try to follow through that.

I'm being very vague because the Scott speaks it very differently to all of us, but follow through with those things and watch. Oh God. If there's repetition. Yeah, if there's God, God breathes on it. Um, I think God actually gives us one. Coin to be faithful with. If he's saying, Hey, don't go to the grocery store today, but go to this one or Texas rent.

He's not gonna ask us to move to Africa tomorrow if we're not faithful with those little things. No. So that's what I would do. I'd write them down and then start to discern the voice of God. That was a lot. But yeah, no, that's what I would do, start doing as a practice. Really good. Yeah. I wanna encourage everyone take time.

Journaling out your thoughts, silence and solitude or getting in community or something else, whatever it is. But this is one of, I think for all of us, the most special parts of our relationship with Jesus and following him that we have a God who actually speaks. He is there and he's not silent, and he wants to speak to you.

I know that is true because scripture says it's true. You are not the exception if you're listening, and so I would just encourage you to keep pursuing it. Keep discerning what's, what's the accent of God in your life? Um, because it's so, so special and it's part of what God has promised you. So thank you for listening.

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