Inside a Missed Miscarriage: Choices, Pain, and Partner Perspectives

The room got quieter when the number landed: HCG at 5,000—far too low for nearly thirteen weeks. From that moment, everything we’d been planning—the crib shuffle in our three-bedroom house, the baby names our kids were arguing over, the assumption we’d crossed into a “safe zone”—shifted into the harsh clarity of a missed miscarriage. We’re sharing the story we needed to hear: what the ER limbo feels like, how bedside ultrasound can foreshadow a formal diagnosis, and why lab values can be both information and heartbreak.

We walk through the real choices families face after pregnancy loss: expectant management and its long, uncertain timeline; medical management with misoprostol, including what the pain, bleeding, and safety thresholds actually feel like at home; and surgical management via D&C when speed, tissue testing, or medical necessity make it the right call. Along the way we talk about follow-up plans, HCG monitoring, when to seek help, and how to make decisions that match your values, schedule, support system, and mental health. This is practical, compassionate guidance from people who just carried it.

You’ll also hear the partner’s perspective—what it’s like to hold hope in a waiting room, to field waves of well‑meant messages, and to grieve a child without the physical markers of loss. We share how we told our kids, why simple rituals like a barefoot hike helped, and how community support can be both overwhelming and lifesaving. If you’ve been here, you’re not alone. If you haven’t, this conversation can help you support someone who has with empathy instead of minimization.

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Transcript

Opening, Context, and Trigger Warning

SPEAKER_01 0:44

We're going to talk about fertility, I'm just thinking of post-part of the topics that are relevant to the active individual. While I am a public floor physical therapist, I am not your public floor physical therapist, and know that this podcast does not substitute medical advice. All right, come along for this journey with us while we navigate motherhood together at a hello everyone and welcome to the Barbell Mamas podcast. Christina Previtt here, and today I have Nick Previtt with me. Um, if you all have seen um over the last couple of days, we have been posting about how we had a missed miscarriage. Um, and so I am no longer pregnant with our third. I have been super open and honest about my journey over the last year. This is now our second miscarriage. And so today what I thought we would talk about is I wanted to go through kind of the different types of miscarriage management. I am by no means an expert. Unfortunately, I have now gone through two out of the three. Um, so just to kind of understand like different expectations and what happens when you experience a loss. And then I also brought Nick on here because I think that that we are starting to get to a place where we are talking about miscarriage and loss, but I don't know if I've seen a lot of conversations amongst the partners. So I really want Nick to be able to kind of share his experience. Of course, it feels different in a way that it's kind of my body that's going through it, but he lost his child too, right? And we had a lot of plans and a lot of dreams for this third child. We kind of felt like we went through our miscarriage, it was really hard, and we got to 13 weeks pretty much with this baby. I was just under 13 or almost 13 weeks. I had the miscarriage on the Thursday, would have been 13 weeks on the Friday, and you always feel like you're in the safe zone when you're there.

SPEAKER_00 2:55

So ultrasound for the Thursday morning you're supposed to go to.

First vs Second Miscarriage: How It Felt

SPEAKER_01 2:58

Yeah, and so we were excited to see the baby because the way that our management had gone, it just we didn't get our ultrasound booked until just after 12 weeks. But I had been bleeding with the first miscarriage, and so I hadn't been bleeding, I had been feeling good, I had had pregnancy symptoms, but I was managing them okay. So let's kind of start with like kind of Nick, what has kind of gone through your mind and what went through your mind with our first loss versus our second? Like, did it feel any different to you? And like kind of what goes through your what's going through your mind?

SPEAKER_00 3:37

The first little second is hard because we didn't know one with our after our uh after Quinn. We didn't know how fast we'd be able to get pregnant, could it have been almost four years? Uh, and you had an IED during that time, and we were older, so we didn't think we'd be that fast. And it was in the first month after yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:00

So for context, I got my IED out and I was on week five of my cycle. We got pregnant that month at day 12. So I was pregnant literally a week later, which was great news until it wasn't, and I ended up having a subcorionic hematoma, which I've now found out I I likely had again with this pregnancy loss.

SPEAKER_00 4:21

So that one felt more like we kind of knew it was coming for longer because we'd gone into the first time we had spotted. Yeah, five weeks. In five weeks, and the baby was still viable, they still had a heartbeat, but they said there was uh the subcore was there, it was there, and they said that could be an issue monitor, and then things weren't going well over the next couple of weeks. So I felt like we had some time to process and accept that. Now the after the first one was way worse than the after so far. This one, this one, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:57

So I I totally agree with our first loss. I felt like my heart was kind of protected because and it it never feels good to have that loss, but we had had bleeding at five weeks and then a loss of fetal heartbeat at seven and a half weeks. So I felt like I was holding our breath until we got well into the second trimester of that one, and obviously we didn't. So yeah, I'm I'm totally with you. So then how did this one feel different?

SPEAKER_00 5:27

Well, it felt like we'd passed that kind of stage, so it was just like, all right, well, now we're talking names and we're talking about like where kids are gonna go, because we we have a three-bedroom house. So we were talking about like where kids are gonna go after a year and all that sort of stuff.

SPEAKER_01 5:43

So that one this one felt more sudden, and it felt more like this baby was more tangible in our life, like we were starting to figure out, yeah, like you said, logistics.

SPEAKER_00 5:55

The every time we were at a slowly collecting baby clothes, yeah, like our kids were away.

SPEAKER_01 6:02

Yeah, our kids were fighting because they wanted to name the baby glitter or sparkle.

unknown 6:09

Yeah.

Spotting, Hospital Waits, and Rising Hope

SPEAKER_01 6:11

Um, yeah, and so my belly was starting to get bigger, and the kids were starting to talk to the baby as the baby became something that felt a little bit more real. And so I was on a course and I started to spot. And immediately I'm calling Nick, texting Nick, and being like, Oh my gosh, I'm by myself on this course. I'm in New Jersey in a country that I do not have insurance for. I was like, what the heck do I do? And he's trying to talk me off a ledge and be like, hey, like a little bit of spotting's okay, you know, and it really was. It was so light. And then I started to bleed on Wednesday.

SPEAKER_00 6:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:00

And what was kind of going through your mind when we're in the hospital?

SPEAKER_00 7:05

So the I the thing I hate about going to the hospital is you get there and everything feels like it's not going well, you know, and then you sit all day, make sure you're in the waiting room for I don't know, three or four hours. And we got in pretty quick into their own room and into their own like maternity gyney room. And I draw blood, and then you know, you wait a couple more hours and you're starting to feel better. So I I think the worst part is the hope starts to build up. You're like, oh, this is fine. This is fine. You know, everything's gonna be fine. Maybe she'll be on pelvic breast because we thought maybe you'd ran just too much and like had uh with the sub curionate hematoma or whatever. We thought maybe that was just what it was, at least what I was telling myself.

SPEAKER_01 7:52

Yeah, for context, I had taught a course all weekend, including forward falling. And so we thought maybe like I had just fallen too abruptly. I didn't think I did, like I was landing really softly. I'm a very controlled faller, I know how to fall, and I wasn't like punching myself in the abdomen. I was just like, you know, from my knees falling onto my hands, like forever's like, what the heck is wrong with you, Christina? Um, we yeah, so we had, and then Maya has been running, so I ran probably like 12 or 13 kilometers in like a 24 hour period, and I had done strength training and yoga. And so Nick's like, maybe we can cool it on how much exercise you are doing right now. But it was because I was getting into the second trimester, I thought I was feeling better, and my energy I thought was coming back, which obviously now back looking back, yeah.

HCG Numbers, Bedside Ultrasound, Reality

SPEAKER_00 8:54

So that was the worst. It's the kind of the sit where you sit there long enough, and everything starts to look a little bit blood better, you're bleeding less. So there's like that hope of like, oh maybe everything's fine. Maybe this is just like you know, one of those pregnancies where where you just had like that subcoronic hematoma ruptured, but everything was okay. So it will be fine, and then he comes in when you can just see it on his face, and he says the HCG number.

Missed Miscarriage Explained and Timeline

SPEAKER_01 9:17

And we I we both kind of knew from that point that so he comes in and he says your beta HCG is 5,000. And to be at 12 to 13 weeks and have an HCG of 5,000 is way too low, like way too low. I was seven weeks and I was at 37,000 to 60,000. Um, and so he's like, you know, that's a little on the low side, but it's very like you could tell he's like, we haven't confirmed anything yet, but I was like, I remember looking at him and saying, that's too low. I know that's too low. And then he puts the ultrasound on, and the size of the infant or fetus was way too small. Like I was, you know, baby should be the size of a lime or an orange, and it's like teeny. And so the it was a bedside ultrasound, so it wasn't sufficient to put me to the early loss clinic. And so we that's why Nick was saying we had to stay a couple hours because they had to do a urine sample blood draw. We had to wait. There was a previous OB guyne case that has was there, so we had to wait for that, and then they had to do a confirmed higher contrast ultrasound to confirm what they knew before they could put our case over to early pregnancy loss. And that is just a really shitty feeling, just like waiting there, knowing that there's nothing that you can do, that your baby's passed. You have two kids at home who are like with a babysitter in there, you know they're stressed because they're saying, you know, mom is having some problems and and they're just gonna go make sure the baby's okay. And then baby's not okay. Um, and so we kind of got that that loss. And so from there, they kind of in in the early pregnancy loss, they they kind of give you a couple of different options for miscarriage management.

SPEAKER_00 11:25

They thought we'd lost the baby around like eight weeks. Yeah.

Management Options: Expectant, Medical, Surgical

SPEAKER_01 11:29

So I was classified under a missed miscarriage, which meant that I had no symptoms of fetal demise, but obviously baby had stopped growing and heartbeat had stopped. And so um, they thought baby had stopped growing between eight or nine weeks. I was now almost 13 weeks, so now I'm four to five weeks. And I think that kind of messed me up a little bit because it's very weird to think that you've had fetus anxiety that's not not viable. Yeah, you're like having this connection with something that has actually passed away and has been passed away for a long time. It just it kind of yeah, it kind of messes you up a bit psychologically. And so they refer to early pregnancy loss, and this is kind of where you kind of have to make a couple of decisions around the type of miscarriage management that you would like. And again, this would be a very intense conversation between you and your physician. Um, the obstetrician that I worked with, she is amazing and was so kind and kind of outlaid or outlined options. So when we're thinking about miscarriage management, they will talk about expectant, medical, or surgical management. So, expectant management was what we did the first time, which was essentially like a wait and see. My HCG had been dropping, I had started bleeding. I didn't think that it would take that long for my HCG to go down to zero. I ended up having just a nightmare experience where it took forever, like four months between before my HCG was down to zero. But that was kind of this expectant wait and see. Your body is gonna understand that you are no longer supporting a viable fetus. Uh, products of conception will go away, come out, and HCG will eventually return back to zero. You'll start cycling again. In that case, um, people will do either serial blood draws or get you to take pregnancy tests until pregnant becomes non-pregnant, which is a sign that your HG HCG has dropped to non-pregnant levels. So that was one. And we did that last time. Because of how long that took, and how I felt like a pincushion every time I saw my HCG was elevated, I felt like I wanted to cry again because it was like, oh my gosh, I have to go in again, and like this is not over. And it was just like this constant reminder.

SPEAKER_00 14:04

Yeah.

Expectant Management: The Long Wait

Medical Management: Protocol and Pain

Bleeding, Home Realities, and Safety

SPEAKER_01 14:05

Yeah. It was, yeah. And it was yeah, I was constantly going in, which like my physicians were amazing. It had nothing to do with them, it had everything to do with the fact that my body just didn't pass this tissue very quickly. Um, I knew that I did not want to do that, and so then we had medical management, which is for me, I took miphopristone. Um, and that is your body is essentially given medications that ripen the cervix, and when the cervix is ripened enough, products of conception will evacuate the body. And that is what I did this time, and that was such an intense experience. So you for I'm in Canada. This is the the protocol that right now is with me. I had to insert 800 milligrams of Mesopristone uh intravaginally as high up into my vaginal canal as possible. Location was like random. Um, you had to do that at point one, you did 800 milligrams, and then at point two, you do 800 milligrams. Um I have no idea about dose. That's just what my protocol was. And so they say that stuff gets started like three or four hours later. And so I do this at seven at night because I was like, I don't want like they they kind of uh conform informed consent you, and they say that you know you're gonna have some intense cramping. Um, if you take oral tablets, because sometimes they do it orally, like you can have nausea and vomiting, um, you can have diarrhea, but the most intense symptoms is you're essentially kind of going into kind of like labor. It really did feel like it. Um, and so you're getting this these intense abdominal contractions and then obviously high amounts of bleeding. And so they're saying, you know, if you've had if you're bleeding through more than a pad in an hour for four hours, that is an a too high amount of blood loss. Uh, and to call in, and they kind of gave you numbers and stuff. So um, we did that at seven, and I was like, I'm gonna try and sleep through as much of this prep as I can. I lasted, I we went to bed at like nine, nothing had really started, or everything was kind of okay. At two o'clock, I was in a world of hurt, and it was like someone had a vice grip around my uterus. It felt very much like you're getting to the end of pregnancy, except it wasn't or labor, but it wasn't coming in waves, it was kind of unrelenting, and it hung out like that for about two hours, I would say. Um, and it's like as soon as my cervix got ready to open up, the pain like disappeared, but then the blood started. And I don't know if this is TMI, but it felt like a crime scene. Like it was just so intense. It's four o'clock in the morning. I'm calling Nick, being like, Oh my god, I I just I need help. I don't I don't even know what I was really asking you to try and do, but cleaned up, yeah, helped clean and like of course we hadn't been home to put Quinn to bed the night before, so he came into our room that night. Yeah, of course he did. Yeah, so I'm trying to clean up. Nick's helping me clean up. I he's trying to give me more like pads and stuff to help me clean up, and our other kiddos are like, what's wrong with mom? And like, is mom okay? And um it's hard because you're trying to protect them from that, because that obviously that is not what I wanted them to see, but it's hard to do in a smallish house, and you've got two other kids and they're trying to go, anyways. Um, but that was pretty intense for three or four days, and then it's kind of eased off. I'm still bleeding now, but it's more like being on my period versus feeling like I couldn't stand up because it was just so um so intense the bleeding. Um, and so that that's medical management. It is a very intense experience, but instead of you know it being four months, four months. Well, not everybody's four months, I guess, but uh a lot longer, um it happens very quickly. And I kind of the way that I have compared it is like when people take Pitocin when they're induced, everybody says when you are kind of ramping up in labor without med support, it feels very gradual. So you kind of get used to one level of pain and then it kind of ramps up. And Petocin's like a wham, where it kind of hits you really full throttle. Um, and that's kind of what this felt like to you, where it was like full throttle, like wham, and you're like hit with it, um, which is a really intense experience. Um, and then the the DNC management is the surgical management, and that is when you go in and they put you under general and they scrape the products of conception out the side of your uterus. Um with that, um, you're obviously going to be recovering from the anesthesia and um have some persistent bleeding following the procedure. Um, some individuals will choose a DNC option if they're trying to look for um a biopsy of the tissue to see, you know, what happened. Some people will look for genetic abnormalities or do some testing on um the fetal tissue to see what happened or if there's any like cause for concerns. I almost had to do that with my other pregnancy because I thought it could have been um molar pregnancy, which has um risks for cancer. Um, and so really the option is totally up to you. Um one of the things that I thought was really crazy was that so often, like trying to plan a miscarriage, this is so messed up. It really is around being a busy parent. Like, thank goodness you're at home. Like, I don't know what I would have done. Like, there is no way I could have been standing up and doing all that parenting stuff, you know, when you're just bleeding so heavily or you're in pain, or like and you're grieving, like, you know, there's so many things. So on the grieving side, talk to me about telling the kids.

SPEAKER_00 20:27

Okay. Well, I I always get up with the kids earlier. Uh usually Maya's up with me pretty early. She's up in the morning at 5, 5:30. So she was up. Asked me how you were doing. I kind of talked her through it. So she started crying. Why woke up Quinn? Quinn came out. I told him he started crying, and then I figured you heard us because you came out, so we all started crying.

Surgical Management: D&C, Testing, Decisions

SPEAKER_01 20:59

And I I remember Quinn screaming, like, no, like, no, why can't the baby stay? And oh my gosh, having your kids like have a relationship with their sibling, and then it's just it's so interesting. One of the things Nick and I have always believed in is that we don't always want to shield everything from our kids. Like, obviously, we want to do things in age-appropriate ways, and we're not giving them a full blast of the terror that it can be our world sometimes. But, you know, we've taken them to funerals when we've had family members who've passed away. We've had an animal um boomer, our puppy had passed away this this year. He wasn't a puppy, he was 10, but um he he was our puppy. Um, and so we try and shield them from the intensity of sadness, but we don't try and shield them from all sadness. And so um, you know, some people were saying with our first, like you guys had told the kid, like they were surprised that we had told the kids at all that we were pregnant.

SPEAKER_00 22:03

Um and we kind of together came to that decision that you know, if we lost the baby that we would want to be grieving that as a family, or have them know if we why we were acting differently in a moment, like just to just be like, I don't understand why my parents are, you know, not playing with me as much in today, or like or feeling really yeah.

Parenting While Grieving: Telling the Kids

SPEAKER_01 22:24

I absolutely agree that you know we shield our emotions from our kids somewhat, but our kids are so smart, like Quinn's four and Maya six, but they're so in tune, like they they know right away, like when you're feeling off, you know. And um so it was it was really fascinating because they felt like that acute sting of that grief. They're still obviously talking about baby, they still talk about you know, family members that have passed away, they come up in our conversations. But didn't you see like how they transitioned to like, okay, how do we problem solve this? Or like, you know, can we go get an air one? Yeah, well, well, let's try again, and and like you know, which you know is another conversation altogether, but um I just found like I just felt like our kids were so resilient, and they could be they were sad, and they were trying to shift, I could feel them like trying to shift their outlook, and you know, we had a lot of conversations about it's okay to be sad, like we're gonna be grieving this loss, and um so we pulled them out of school, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:40

Pulled him out of school and went for a hike, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:43

And so what we did as a family, and I don't know if this was for them or like selfishly, it was really for me and you, but I just felt like I needed them around, yeah, and I felt like I wanted to be in nature and just like be around beautiful things and be within, and I found that really healing. I don't know if you did, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:09

They were great, and they were great on the hike and they loved it.

SPEAKER_01 24:11

So and I, you know, I I thought it was super interesting because the first thing they did was they took their shoes off at the top and drove you crazy because you're like, why are you taking your shoes off? But I thought it was so neat that the first thing that they did was like grounded into the ground, like you know, there's all this evidence around uh forest bathing and grounding where like having yourself in contact with nature can be really healing for a stress response. And so I just thought that it was so interesting that the first thing our kids do did was like literally put their feet into the earth when they got to the top. You're like, you're being so you're being so much about this, but I just thought it was really interesting um that that that that was what they said decided to do. And they went back to school on the Friday, and we had said that it was a grievance day. What did you put?

SPEAKER_00 25:08

Yeah, I put uh bereavement day.

Nature, Rituals, and Small Healing

SPEAKER_01 25:11

Yeah, bereavement day. And um, when they asked, when like their ki their teachers asked about why they weren't school, they said, uh, because mommy and daddy needed us to be around our family that day. And I just thought, oh my gosh, it's gonna make me tear up again. But um that was just so beautiful, like that they were realizing too that in times of sadness, we want to center around those that love us and like kind of have our community and supports nearby. And I thought it's a heavy area, but I felt like we did something right that day when you feel like you're not doing anything right, and then your kids kind of show you that even in times of sadness, that those teachable moments can be really powerful. So now that we're kind of five days post, I guess it'll be almost a week by the time this uh podcast airs. Um where's your head at?

SPEAKER_00 26:11

So making sure that you're okay. I'm sure we have to do some follow-up stuff at some point. It's nice to have a little bit of it right now.

SPEAKER_01 26:27

What do you feel uh about like kind of being on the male side of it? Like I don't know if you don't understand what like question I'm gonna ask.

SPEAKER_00 26:38

It's hard because it's not my body going through it. All that sort of thing. I try to deal with more of the people who are coming out through the same. So sorry for your loss. Like, I try to take more of those people. So that I find need to be just they mean well, and they all mean really well. But when it's like this eighth or ninth person in a row, yeah, it's like okay, I would like everyone to stop.

SPEAKER_01 27:06

Oh yeah, looking at us with sad eyes, yeah. And I think that's true is like so many of the conversations that happen with in women's circles. Like, we're just starting to talk about miscarriage and loss, but like do you really feel like you have anyone that you can talk to other than me?

SPEAKER_00 27:28

No, no, I wouldn't say those anyone that I would like think about choose my words or like not want to put a burden on that.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:39

Other than you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

But like it's not a burden.

SPEAKER_00 27:45

Well then, like someone someone else.

Partner Perspective: Support and Silence

SPEAKER_01 27:47

Yeah. Yeah. But that's what I mean. Like when it comes to friendships and stuff, like you don't want to just be friends with them during the joyful moments, like the sad moments are part of life. But I do think that it's an interesting point that I feel like in dad circles, like you guys don't really talk about it. And I think that's true in birth too. Like, you hated watching me in labor. Yeah. Like he hated watching me in pain. He felt like there was nothing that he could do. I feel like this is probably another scenario that's similar to that.

SPEAKER_00 28:30

And you don't know, like you're in you're in the labor and delivery, like the doctors are talking to each other about other patients too, and you just you don't know fully understand what they're talking about all the time. And the worst, almost worse, is I understand like 70% of it.

SPEAKER_01 28:46

Yeah. Like you and you understand more than a lot.

SPEAKER_00 28:48

So that's what I mean. Is like that meconium is bad and a vacuum is bad. Can be bad. Can be. But I don't like understand if they're talking about like us or another patient or and and that happened with Quinn.

SPEAKER_01 29:04

I I think the the physician wasn't being very sensitive to the fact that like she was stressing about other patients, but how that would be interpreted from the family that was actively delivering in that moment. And I just think that so often, like the attention I don't know, I don't want to say the word should, but the attention is often centered on mom, which like which it should. Yeah. But and I think that having supports in place for dad, who is often dealing with really strong emotions too, like we were trying to name this baby, like, come on. Um that yeah, I don't think there's a lot of supports for you. And like there's this. It's like a sense of stoicism that is felt probably. Like I have to be strong.

SPEAKER_00 30:07

So there's only like well, there's only eight weeks, like yeah. I know I've seen a lot of that too.

SPEAKER_01 30:13

Yeah. Where it feels, yeah, like almost like people are trying to make light or minimize or feel like you're minimizing. Do you feel like that's like more in in guy circles?

SPEAKER_00 30:27

For sure.

Social Responses, Stoicism, and Minimizing

Community, Boundaries, and Being “Not Okay”

SPEAKER_01 30:28

Yeah. Yeah. And so I just think it's it's interesting. And I felt like I've learned a lot asking you to explain to me like how you felt in certain parts of our obstetrical journey, like the good, like including labor delivery and the bad as we've gone through these losses. Because it affects both of us, you know. Yeah. So, anyways, I will be back talking about pregnancy postpartum content. I love having Nick on the podcast. I think having his perspective and kind of just talking about life stuff is really great. So um, this obviously wasn't a positive experience, um, but it is one that we are going through together. And yeah, we're we're not okay right now, I would say. Um, but we will be. And our kids heal me every day, and you heal me every day, and so we grieve together. Um, I just want to say a big thank you to everybody as well. Like Nick said it is hard when um, you know, you're getting a lot of people who are asking you about it or talking to you about it. And so sometimes you like kind of dread going into social circles because you have to kind of talk about it. On the flip of that, um talking about it helps, I think. Um knowing that there's so many people that are there and like some who understand what you're going through, some whose hearts are just going out to you, like thoughts and prayers and good intentions. And I think we need that. Like, you know, I posted about how I have just realized that I am like that girly who I want my relationships to be the good, the bad, the ugly. Like, you know, I want people who are gonna be in my corner during the good times, and I want people who are gonna be in my corner when life really sucks. And I want to be that for them. Like, I don't just want to hear about their highlight reel. Like, I want the real, I want the messy, I want the vulnerable, and I feel like people should have really showed up for us. I have a lot of people who are in my DMs, I have a lot of people who are calling me and checking in on me, and also understand that sometimes, like you said, I have the capacity and I want to talk about this baby and all that kind of stuff. And sometimes I just can't. I just can't. Um, and so I've just really seen kindness and community center around us, and that feels really lovely too. That there's that many people who are kind of rooting for us and feel that loss um acutely with us. Um and so I'm just really thankful that we have that community around us. Anything else you want to say?

SPEAKER_00 33:41

No, I'm not much of a talker.

SPEAKER_01 33:45

But not much of a talker, married the talker. How shocking. All right, everybody, we will see you all next time. We will be talking all about pregnancy and postpartum research. Um, I am actually heading down to the Canadian Society for Excise Physiology as well in the coming weeks, and they're doing a whole pregnancy and postpartum exercise day. So I'm sure I'll have so much to share with you all about that. There's some really famous researchers that are going to be there. I'm super excited to be presenting a poster, but then also just to learn from all of them. If you have any questions or comments, um, we are really open talking about our experience, Nick too. Like if uh, you know, you have had discussions with your partner or if there are things that you want to share, um slide into our DMs. Um that sounds like we're dating, but it's not. Um, we would love to have those conversations with you all, and we will see you all next week.