Your Therapist Needs Therapy 90 - Autism Doesn’t Cause Nazi Salutes

This week Jeremy discusses Elon Musk's public persona, arguing that his behavior is not a result of ketamine use or autism but rather his long-standing personality and privilege. He critiques Musk’s exploitation of wealth, right-wing political shift, and mistreatment of employees, partners, and children, tying it to broader issues of power, white supremacy, and capitalism. Jeremy concludes by emphasizing the importance of therapy, accountability, and recognizing the damage caused by unchecked wealthy individuals.

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Jeremy Schumacher: Hello and welcome to another edition of Your Therapist Needs Therapy podcast where generally speaking to mental professionals talk about their mental health journeys and how they navigate mental health. I work in the mental health field. I'm your host, Jeremy Solo episode this week. I promise I will have guests again. It is just taking a minute to line stuff up because I'm busy and it's coming off of a household of people being sick. So, I'm just still not caught up on everything. this is episode that'll also go up on YouTube because I have series

Jeremy Schumacher: suggests that I'm well organized and But I have several videos and this will be fit into that series nicely of sad rich white dudes. I've done Hulk Hogan and Vince McMahon because I am a pro wrestling nerd. Also did Harrison Buter because he's the worst. And we're going to add to that today. This person has always been on the agenda.  I think I've publicly said a CM Punk video will happen at some point. Again, wrestling nerd. and Aaron Rogers because I am from Wisconsin and a Green Bay Packers fan. And there's very few people who I've been a fan of who have fallen further from Grace than Aaron Rogers.

Jeremy Schumacher: but today we're talking about the muskrat that is working to dismantle this mo democracy very openly in America but in other places too because he's the richest man alive, Elon Musk. the immigrant who's taking your jobs. and why? let me zoom out and explain why I'm talking about Elon Musk. I am not trying to slowly morph into a political channel. I promise I would love to never talk about politics again if we had politics that weren't so damaging to everybody's mental health, mine included. I'm just realizing in real time for those of you watching the video and I seem distracted that I'm probably going to do an RFK video, too. I don't want to.

Jeremy Schumacher: I don't want to. What if we stopped putting sad rich white guys in charge of things? Then I don't have to talk about how they're ruining our mental health. Or in RFK's case, wanting to send us to wellness camps if we have ADHD.** morons. let's start there with Elon. No. he is a somebody with one of the low most bloated opinions, public opinions of their intelligence, I'm talking about Elon Musk because he is publicly stated he has Asperers that seems to be self-dagnosed. and I'm gonna say uninformed because Asperers isn't a thing anymore.

Jeremy Schumacher: And so even if you're doing a self diagnosis, which is valid sometimes, I have a weird space that I hold about neurode divergence and self diagnosis. I hold space that it is very difficult to get in to and so I don't think you need to see an autism specialist to get diagnosed.  I do think with the help of a mental health professional at least helping you through the assessment process if we're doing self diagnosis I think that's meaningful and you can be b****** J you're biased because you're a therapist like that's fine. I own that I'm therapist and I'm biased that mental health professionals are helpful people when you're working on your mental health. I don't know.

Jeremy Schumacher: It's like saying your mechanic wants to be the person who puts your brakes on so that they're sure it's done Yeah. I don't know. That's correct. and self diagnosed myself, right? Have I worked with other mental health professionals regarding my diagnosis being on the autism spectrum? Yeah, I have. and I'm super well qualified to do that.  not for myself, Self diagnosis always comes with that caveat of we're not always the person who sees it most cleanly. But also that autistic trait where you take nine self assessments because even though you scored really high in the first one, that doesn't mean you're autistic enough to be autistic, so yeah, self diagnosed Asperers, but again, Asperger is not a thing. So whenever that self diagnosis happened, it either happened a long time ago or it's just outdated information which makes me skeptical of it.

Jeremy Schumacher: he sort of started trotting that out when his public opinion was starting to turn. So, he's always kind of used the autism thing as an excuse. And for those of you who are like, he doesn't say he's autism, he says Asperers it is under the autism umbrella. It's not a separate diagnosis in the DS since the DSM5 has been a thing. It's all part of the autism spectrum disorder. That's a much better way to do the diagnosis and talk about it.  There are people who were diagnosed with Asperers before the DSM5 came out who just identify very strongly with that. and again, I'm going to hold some space for that. who am I to say you can't identify that way? but just from a practitioner perspective, from somebody who's swimming in these waters on a daily basis, yeah, our current language is better and talking about it as a spectrum disorder makes more sense.

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Jeremy Schumacher: and is a more reliable way to discuss it than having separate diagnoses under that umbrella. So, yeah. And then we're going to talk about ketamine because I'm also certified trauma-informed and theogenic guide. Although that's not something that I talk about a lot or do for business reasons as a licensed therapist, it is a thing that I happen to have studied and have some background on.  And so, yeah, we're going to do a video on how Elon Musk is just a*** and always has been and he's a s*** person. And it's not because of the ketamine use, although that might be making things significantly worse. And it's not because he's autistic or has just a s** person for a lot of easily understandable reasons that have nothing to do with being neurode divergent or abusing ketamine.

Jeremy Schumacher: Although again, if you're a s* person and you're abusing drugs, you're probably going to get shittier. and talking about this in the way that normalizes that neurody diverent people can be s***** and also that's not the reason they're s*****.  And normalizing that geniuses and very talented people, twice exceptional people perhaps can be s***** people. And s***** people who use psychedelics are still s***** people after they do psychedelics. Psychedelics aren't a cure for being a s*** person. So that's what we're all going to cover with Elon Musk.

Jeremy Schumacher: let's start with this idea that he's a genius. I have yet to see What I think we have evidence of is that he's incredibly wealthy, and always has been. And when you have that level of wealth, it's very hard to fail at anything. most of his professors, his teachers don't remember him being an exceptional in any sort of way other than he seemed to be very driven. and I would not be surprised sort of given Elon's traits that he's not autistic. I think very comfortably he's somewhere on the spectrum. I can't diagnose people who are not my clients.

Jeremy Schumacher: So, just clarifying that it would not surprise me if a formal workup was done and he got formally assessed and he was indeed on the spectrum somewhere. He seems to have a lot of and again, a lot of people who have autistic traits, even the same ones as Elon, are not awful people. And so, That's not the reason he's a bad boss.  It's not the reason he's an abusive partner. It's not the reason he's a deadbeat dad. He's just those things because he's a** person. It doesn't have to do with neurode divergence. Lots of great parents out there have autism. Lots of great bosses and entrepreneurs and people who are functional under this s** cloud of capitalism are neurode divergent and on the autism spectrum.

Jeremy Schumacher: Lots of people who were exceptional students and misdiagnosed or diagnosed late came out to be deeply empathic and caring humans. The fact that he's** doesn't have to do with the fact that he's autistic almost as surely has to do with the fact that he's rich. so he grew up in aparthide South Africa. He seems to be a fan. he didn't like being in South Africa.  he wanted to come to America. that seems to be established from a couple different biographers and friends and family who do interviews about him is that he wanted to come to America but not because he thought apartheid was bad. he seems again to have been a fan. And Elon's interesting.

Jeremy Schumacher: So, I think drug use and potentially brain damage explains sort of his turn towards the right wing, but also it's pretty well established that people who amass wealth turn more conservative. they want to pay fewer taxes and they fall in love with the smell of their own farts because they think they earned all of this themselves. so they start to Kool-Aid, lost in their own sauce. I don't know. That might be like a masturbation joke that I'm not comfortable making right now. there's a botched penis jab joke somewhere in there with Elon and his kids who are test tube babies. And that's not me being s** towards IBF. That's me being s***** towards Christian nationalists who want to ban it.

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Jeremy Schumacher: And then they love Elon who's having test tube babies supposedly according to some of his exes he has a botched penis implant. just gosh again I'd love to just be talking about ADHD with another neurodeiver therapist instead of doing a deep dive into Elon Musk. Elon left South Africa to avoid mandatory military service, which again as a leftist anarchists pretty far on the** left, I don't have an American counterpart that I feel comfortable identifying with. political party, I mean, yeah, that's good. mandatory military service for an oppressive regime is a bad thing.

Jeremy Schumacher: So if Elon fled South Africa to not serve in a military because the military is an oppressive force. Cool. Seems like he just fled to not have to serve not because he was morally opposed but because he didn't want to do that. And again, so he didn't want to do something that was bad. I'm not going to ding him for that.  I'm going to call out the Christian nationalists who are promilitary and want to wave the flag and be like Elon's a draft dodger. Donald Trump is a draft dodger. These are s** people. they don't have a sense of nationalism as it were. they just don't want to pay their taxes and America is a great place to come if you're wealthy and don't want to pay taxes. And in Donald Trump's case, be a pedophile.

Jeremy Schumacher: long history in America of defending and protecting the pedophiles. So Elon goes to Canada and again it's just he has wealth here he's wealthy still. He tells the story of couch surfing and being poor and poor me living in squalor with my startup idea for an online yellow pages. no, you got a $30,000 loan from your dad. Not even a loan. You just got $30,000. I haven't heard anything that it was a loan, although he certainly has money to pay it back. I'm not suggesting he doesn't. but again, it's the Bill Gates story. It's all these other stories of these entrepreneur Silicon Valley startup people. they had money. he had that safety net to fail.

Jeremy Schumacher: his dad talks about having so much money that they couldn't fit it all in their safe growing up. the Emerald Mine story is real. His dad in a shady way that we're not quite sure how has owns half an Emerald Mine. Elon had horses and land and nice cars that he grew up with. he had s** parents who got divorced and he lived with his dad and his dad seems to also be an awful person. And again, there's our best explanation for why is Elon such a s*** person? because he was raped by a s***** person. And that happens a lot, right? when you're an abuse victim, you have some opportunities to not do that or to repeat the pattern. And he just repeats the pattern. So, as much as he hates his dad, he's become very much like his father. which, probably some of the self-loving and might explain some of the drug use later. but yeah, he's just wealthy the whole time.

Jeremy Schumacher: And so this sort of idea that he was a genius or he was ahead of the curve or really great nah he wanted to start with an online yellow pages and then he wanted to have an online bank. these were not original ideas again he just had money to play with. and not that he had millions and billions to play with. He made more money off of these things than he started with. He did accumulate a great deal of his own wealth.  But it's not like he's some sort of self-made man. He came from a s* ton of money. He was well educated. He had money to play with. He had safety nets to fail. This is not somebody who was at risk of being out on the street if his company didn't pan out. and he's just been** throughout. So he tells the story of being bullied.

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Jeremy Schumacher: but the more that he told that story, the more his former classmates kind of spoke out and said he was a bully." Talked about getting pushed down the stairs and having his head slammed into the ground by this kid who beat him up. And it came out that Elon kept saying s*** about his dad who had killed himself. So this kid finally snapped. I'm like, right, that's what happens when you bully someone. So at some point they're going to retaliate and then Elon wants to play the victim when he was the bully.  And I'm not defending people shoving people downstairs or slamming their head against the ground. Again, that's a story Elon has told a lot. And the person who was the victim, perpetrator, depending on how you want to view that story, both in real life, didn't deny that he pushed him down the stairs and didn't deny that they had a physical altercation then.

Jeremy Schumacher: So, we seem to have at least one confirmed instance of traumatic brain in injury potential for Elon. his brain just could be deteriorating at this point. traumatic brain injury will do that. It is injuries that we're learning more about them. they can just continue to our brains deteriorate over time as we age anyway and traumatic brain injuries sometimes can make that significantly worse. That's the NFL players who are dying at 55 or who are killing themselves or the professional wrestlers who kill themselves and their families. yeah, it's not good for our brain to be bounced aggressively off of our skulls. It's pretty bad for it actually. So, yeah, that could be a complicating factor here.

Jeremy Schumacher: I'm not dismissing that fact. I think it's a thing people don't bring up enough because they're busy saying he's autistic, so it's fine that he's an a** or they're blaming the ketamine. And again, it's not fine if you're autistic or you're on spectrum, you're neurode divergent. if you're an a******, you're just an a******. it's not because of Your neurode divergence might turn the volume up or down on that, but it is not a cause of that.  And so again, we just sort of have Elon's weird growing up. He's bullied. He doesn't have a lot of friends. His dad's s* to him. these rich white tech bros who are over trying to overthrow democracy just should have gone to therapy. Again, I'm biased. I'm a therapist. yeah, he's a grown man with daddy issues. that's why he gets along with Trump so well because grown men with daddy issues.

Jeremy Schumacher: Trump's dad just made fun of him and told him what a** moron he was all the time cuz he is a very stupid person. And I'm sort of of the opinion that based on what we know about Elon, he's also an idiot. it just seems he was wealthy enough to be around computers and technology before a lot of other people were. So his dad flew him to this computer conference and Elon got to talk about with a bunch of smart people. he didnt start  He threw a bunch of money at Tesla and then was around a bunch of really smart people. The things that he's come up with seem to be dumb. He's fought to make sure Tesla has carbon fiber bodies for their cars and that causes this toxic paint and toxic waste. it's not a good thing. It specifically goes against saving the world thing he's tried to tout for many years.

Jeremy Schumacher: if you're forcing your cars to be painted with toxic paint, that's bad for the environment. so yeah, I think he's a moron than SpaceX. He was just about around a bunch of really smart engineers and so he hired them not because he's really smart, because he has a lot of money, maybe he's good at finding talent, but again, it seems like as much as that might be something he's good at, he also drives them away regularly because he's a** boss to work for. he just seems to not sleep a lot and think that that's a good thing. That could be a neurode divergent trait. It could be his own mythologizing. A lot of people throughout his history have talked about he doesn't sleep a lot.

Jeremy Schumacher: He thinks working 120 hours a week is good. he's a hard person to be around and people don't like being around him. So he throws himself into his work. So he doesn't have to deal with the fact that he has a s** personality. And that's it. I think if he had stayed sort of a recluse like Curtis Yarvin or Peter Teal and people knew less about him, he still might have that mystique of being the real world Tony Stark. And he just has a lot of money in the same way that Tony Stark started way ahead because his dad had a lot of money. are privileged. Wealthy people are privileged. and so then Elon's turn towards the right wing I think to do with his value has always been deeply overstated. It's based on a lot of his Tesla stock which he owns a lot of. That's always been overvalued. Like Tesla's and I don't understand how the stock market works. it's made up.

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Jeremy Schumacher: Money is a fake thing, right? It's just a madeup thing we all go along with. so is the stock market. But from my understanding, a lot of his wealth is tied up in that. And Tesla is valued more than every other car maker combined in the United States. And that's such an obvious overvalue. Obviously, I can say that now seeing how easy it is for Elon to tank all that with his cult personality. but a car maker that makes fewer vehicles than any other automaker being valued at more than all the other ones combined sounds preposterous. Again, the stock market is the new land prospecting that wealthy people use to get richer and keep poor people from tapping into that. That's why I'm not going to get into the stock market. It's a whole other thing. Money is made up and dumb.

Jeremy Schumacher: as a neurody divergent person, it's never made sense to me and it irritates me greatly that we all pretend that it's an important thing. so yeah, it seems like his only actual trait that's exceptional is how little he sleeps. And at 55 or whatever he is, that might be catching up to him because that could also be causing some brain deterioration and that he doesn't sleep very often. he just doesn't maintain long-term relationships.  the person who was perhaps closest to him and kind of served as his mother figure lash his mediator slash the person who calmed him down with his businesses was his personal assistant slash secretary who worked with him for a decade and then he fired her very unceremoniously after telling her that he could do her job he just fired her so he's just like a s***** boss he

Jeremy Schumacher: doesn't get along with other people when he's the CEO. he's had a couple different corporate takeovers that have gone very poorly because people don't like working for him. He just doesn't seem to have a good social life in spite of being incredibly wealthy. again, he could just throw his money at projects he cares about and let the smart people that he hires take care of stuff and he could have just coasted, right? He could have partied. He could have spent his time on the beach. He could be paying very high class escorts. He could be dating whatever celebrity he wanted because he has that much money. he could be doing any of these things and he just doesn't because he wants to be in charge of stuff, but he's got unresolved daddy issues. he pretty publicly has been using ketamine for a while and seems to be using it a lot. And that's the other piece I'm going to talk about here is he's not s***** because he's nervous.

Jeremy Schumacher: She just because he's rich and then he's, done the right-wing grift now where he's gone on Rogan and smoked a joint and wants to deport immigrants even though he's an immigrant, but then he wants to just bring in the smart immigrants on their visas. So he's just an exploitative capitalist at this point.  again not so much based on his values but based on his perceived victimization that I don't know he should pay taxes and that people don't like him because he's an a*** so he wants to play victim and the right-wing grift is great for that right if you've been accused of sexual assault turn to the right-wing grift if you're a failed Hollywood mo maker right-wing grift open arms over there for the victimhood and it's not like they're deeply

Jeremy Schumacher: deeply judgmental and there's rigid group outgroup dynamics there. So that open arms is me being a little tongue and cheek but ready to accept people who are going to tow the party line and spout off their talking points to the tune of 44 billion to buy Twitter, right? he bought a social media so that he could block people from talking poorly about him and block his kid who highlights what a s** parent he is.  And yeah, that's also probably part of it is he has a kid who's trans, so that turned him right-wing grift cuz they don't want anything to do with him because he's a s*** parent. the only kid he seems to spend any time with is the one he carries around as a human shield that Grimes is desperate to see.

Jeremy Schumacher: And because he's wealthy and the custody battle is playing out in Texas, he just keeps prolonging things because Texas is not a good place to likely be a mother trying to get custody when you're up against the richest man in the world. So yeah, he's a* parent. he's got 14 kids by six separate women, 15 kids by six. he just had a new one that we just found out about. and again he spouts off about replacement theory stuff, which ties into the white supremacy in South Africa. and for people who are not informed on this stuff, it's wild, the idea that anyone wants to say he's not racist or Trump's not racist, they're banning every other group of immigrants who are black or brown from coming to our country, but then they specifically carved out for white South Africans to immigrate to a country very easily.

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Jeremy Schumacher: and that's not something that gets headline, so not a lot of people know about that. But that's a Nazi talking point for a couple decades now that the plight of the white farmer in South Africa has been this madeup Nazi stuff to "Look, our group is persecuted in this country where they've been in charge even though they shouldn't be because they've just been an oppressive force." but persecution, right?  So, it's this nonsense talking point that's wild to hear coming out of the White House be like, " this is provably false." And also, the only people who talk like this are Nazis. and Elon has brought up those talking points as well. This is why the fact that he wanted to leave South Africa doesn't seem to have been for political reasons, which is why I don't really give him that gold star sticker for avoiding military service.

Jeremy Schumacher: It doesn't seem like it was on ethical or moral grounds. It just seems like he didn't want to do it. So yeah, he's a** person. And so then yeah, he had a couple kids with Grimes and he started doing ketamine. He got really into gaming and we learned he's not good at gaming and he pressured Grimes to say that he was good at it and then he's been paying someone to play his video games for him because he's not very good at it.  And they start doing ketamine cuz why not? And again he's got all the wealth and resources in the world. So you want to do party drugs, you want to have recreational fun, like you can, right? I'm not going to say if that's how you want to have some recreational fun. I'm not that person who's like drugs are bad.

Jeremy Schumacher: somebody who takes an approach that is science-based that says there are risks associated with drug use and if you're going to use drugs, you should use them safely for yourself and for the people who are going to be around you. And regular use of ketamine is not one of those safe things. It is legal. doctor still has to prescribe it to you.  It's not like you can just go to Walmart or CVS, Target and just get it off the shelf. It still needs to be prescribed. He's assuredly abusing it for how often he seems to be using it. the dark mega thing, I think, is just like a cover so he can wear a hat and sunglasses indoors because he's high.

Jeremy Schumacher: ketamine it's considered a psychedelic, but it's an anesthetic technically. So, the doses that you have to do to get psychedelic effects are fairly high, which is why it's regulated by doctors and prescribed by doctors, because you can abuse it. And who is the Matthew Perry, I think, was the actor from Friends who overdose. again, there's risks associated. It's dangerous. You're not supposed to be doing it all the time. it was a party drug in the 90s, early 2000s, I guess. growing up, at the time, I'd heard about people going down a Khole and getting lost. Special K is the name street drug was in our DARE stuff. so we knew about it, but I don't know that it's readily accessible in the way that it is now.

Jeremy Schumacher: so yeah, for somebody who doesn't sleep a lot and who might be neurode divergent and not have any friends, he cries in interviews and I'm not throwing shade at a dude for crying an interview. Feel your feelings. Jesus Christ. go to therapy to work out some of this stuff instead of just trying to numb it away through substance abuse, And it's not recreational drug use at this point.  And then at substance abuse, he's talked about how terrible it is to be lonely and Rolling Stone was interviewing him and "Dude, you sound codependent." And he's like, "No, the only thing that has meaning in life is to have someone in your bed at night. I hate going home and being by myself, which seems to be part of the reason he's such a workaholic is because he doesn't have anybody sustainable in his life."

Jeremy Schumacher: And what an awful human he must be that he can't even pay for friends because dude's got that much money. how can you not have a Tim Poolesque compound where you have a skate park and you pay for your friends to live there? I'm guessing Pat McAfee also does that which is a bummer because it seems like for a little bit at least Pat McAfee might be like an okay dude. but yeah, the fact that he can't even pay for friends and family to be around him is wild to me. his family's deeply unlikable. Again, Elon's a piece of s***. His dad is also just awful. And his mom's like, " if you can't afford kids, just pop him out, but don't take him to the movies. what the that rich person just absolutely out of touch with reality. if you grew up poor and somebody's like, "We've been to Aspen for skiing, right?"

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Jeremy Schumacher: the f*** are you talking about? I have never been skiing and I don know I grew up poor. I do know where Aspen is. I don't want to blow up my ACL, so skiing doesn't seem real appealing to me. I did other sports that are bad for my ACL, so I don't need to pick up a new one. But also grew up poor, so no, skiing was never a thing for us. but yeah, I don't know. His dad talks about horseback riding and how much land they had.  It's like, dude grew up super wealthy and went to whites only schools. I don't know. Hes he's arguably just like again a terrible father. He is not involved in his kid's life. he's got a kid who's trans who he has continues to dead name or is just said they're dead to me. He went real like hard turf, not even turf, he's just anti-trans. he's done the right-wing things.

Jeremy Schumacher: for as much as people rightfully say Kanye has lost his mind and are s* about that. And that's another one where they're like," Bipolar people don't turn into just actual Nazis. Literally, yesterday Kanye posted about the Klex Clan robes that he has bought that he can start wearing them around. so yeah, Elon's just having a slow breakdown, but because he's in Trump's circle, it's okay because it's just all breakdowns all the time. Breaking down democracy. I don't know. So, it'll be interesting to see what the American judicial system can do. I'm I'm not particularly optimistic of this time in history.

Jeremy Schumacher: but sort of the things that Doge was doing with Elon initially seemed to be being held up in court. Elon then goes on formerly Twitter, which no one except for Nazis and I think journalists are on anymore. but says that we should deport the judges or we should impeach them, which again, he's not even a citizen, so not an elected official. He's just a** person who doesn't want to pay his taxes.  Again, this is where it gets into the daily political stuff, which what I don't want to do. regular ketamine use, again, it's an anesthetic, so it leads to some depersonalization. He could just be zoning out a lot. as he's fighting federal workers, he's got a pretty big fancy gaming rig in his office. so he's not spending his time real well. Again, he's somebody who's so wealthy he's failed up.

Jeremy Schumacher: the ideas he's had for The Cybert truck is his baby and it is nothing appallingly awful. It shouldn't be allowed on the road. It's way behind scheduling. it's poorly constructed. It's the most recalled vehicle that's out on the road right now. It's way overexpensive. Again, it's just I guess he's good at PR, but I think again a lot of that was just based on his reputation. if he had stayed sort of aloof and out of the public eye, I think he'd still be skating by on it, even with the hard right turn he's taken in his politics, like it's because he's in front of it all the time. he's out in the open and we see how awful he is to the people he works with and for how SpaceX has not become a cheaper alternative.

Jeremy Schumacher: how Teslas are being produced extremely slowly and very expensively how he has run Twitter into the ground and Twitter was always a cesspool but again he went out of his way to welcome Nazis back onto it. So that's like I talk about this in I don't know one of my YouTube videos, one of my song reviews, Chumba Womba maybe. but he's also just a Nazi. And I think he finally recently in an interview said that he's not a Nazi. But several months after doing multiple SG KS in public on camera, that he was excited too. you can hear how excited he hits his chest. He's jazzed about it. and then he talked to the AFD party in Germany because he's pro- athoritarian.

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Jeremy Schumacher: he wants to be in charge of the countries so that he won't have to pay taxes. and again, he's just one of those people who doesn't seem to actually know a lot. And because he's weird, that sort of translated into he must be operating on a higher level. It he's just weird. his code that he wrote for his early businesses all had to be redone. It was unusable.  It's like he gets some of it and is functional but not at scale and not in a way that it plays well with other people. So I think he's just neurode divergent and not that exceptional. because yeah it's not like he's a savant. It's that he's neurode divergent.

Jeremy Schumacher: his brain works differently than it than some other people's, but he's not so good at things and he thinks that his brain is better than it is. And so when he doesn't know about something, he's like, I bet I could do this better. and if the Dunning Krueger effect had not been disproven as more than just a quirk of data, I would say he's walking  For those of you who are unfamiliar, Dunning Krueger is this idea that since has been disproven, but it was a hypothesis for a while that people who don't know very much about something vastly overestimate how much they know about or how much they could know about it. So yeah, I think he's just dumb and he's neurode divergent and he's exceptionally wealthy.

Jeremy Schumacher: And we sort of see it with Trump too that I don't know bankrupting casinos and failing up you just have that much money where you fail up up. Trump's a little bit of a different case obviously with the right-wing grift. Musk came to that much later. Again when Musk and Grimes got together they were both leftists.  So between I think brain damage, ketamine use, and not wanting to pay his taxes, there he's just always been a** person. He wanted to be well-liked, I think, is where the leftist stuff came from. I just recently watched Interstellar and the time doesn't match up perfectly, but I wanted to make a joke that Interstellar Elon saw Interstellar and wanted to be Matt Tamman's character.

Jeremy Schumacher: he thought " getting to Mars at all costs is the point of that movie instead of it being about family." because that seems to be his thing. he wants to be seen as the savior of humanity and praised and worshiped and loved and he's just a s** person who is a bane on all of our existences because he's taking up so many resources without paying taxes. So  He's a s*** person. yeah, he does Nazi things. he's a white supremacist for sure if he's not an actual Nazi. I think he thinks probably globally enough to not actually be a nationalist about America. I think that's just convenient for him right now. I think he's definitely a white supremacist.

Jeremy Schumacher: whether that's deeply held belief or just the water he was swimming in growing up and it's deeply in there and he's not done the work to get it out. again, dude needs to go to therapy. He could afford a lot of therapy. He could go to therapy every single day, He's not going to run out of money. so yeah, grown men with daddy issues. That's a Kendrick Luma reference for those of you who missed it. yeah, he should go to therapy and he should pay taxes. He should probably go to jail just for fraud and all the other things that are going on. I'm a really big fan of people who are contributing to climate change should be held accountable. And yeah, I don't know. He's just a s*** person. And he's always been a s*** person.

Jeremy Schumacher: He was a s*** person when he was a kid and a teen and early 20s, he's a s*** person now. it's unethical to be a billionaire. so yeah, just on that alone, but I am tired of hearing he's on spectrum. I see people daily, weekly for sure.  I don't see people every day but when I see clients probably one of them a day is that I'm neurode divergent in some way shape or form and none of them have done a hail Hitler. none of them are seek high on their social media let alone in front of national news coverage. So right he's not doing that because he's utistic. He's doing that because he's a fan.

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Jeremy Schumacher: He's just a deeply unlikable person. pick any part of it. His business practices, he's a s his romantic partners, he's a s**** partner. His kids, he's a s***** parent. He's anti-democracy, pro- athoritarian, white supremacist, douchebag, right? I don't know. If I had that much money, there wouldn't be hungry kids.  And it seemed like at some point he was gonna try and fight climate change, but now he's contributing. He's a piece of s***. Not because of psychedelics and not because of autism. He's just a s* person. Sad rich white dude. Go to therapy. Give all your money away and go to therapy.

Jeremy Schumacher: So yeah, I don't have a nice easy wrap-up. I usually have other things to highlight because I don't care about celebrities. So some of the stuff I had to listen to some other podcasts about Grimes and about Elon. maybe I'll put those episodes in the show notes. Some of them are outdated. I'm a fan of Behind the Bastards. knowing that there have been horrible people throughout history has kind of been a grounding thing throughout these times we're living through. but the Elon Musk one is four or five years old. it's oddly outdated. It's like opening a time capsule to listen to a podcast about Elon from five years ago when he's just starting to publicly have his meltdown. Similar to Kanye's mom died and that's really I'm not gonna start going off about Kanye.

Jeremy Schumacher: Elon doesn't have a good support system around him. That's also true that a lot of this would be harder for the public to know about if he had good people around him, but he doesn't. So now we know how s***** he is. Maybe someday he will have to pay taxes and be held accountable for some of the* actions. I saw and this is hearsay, Grimes posted it, but how little he pays in child support. how is it that NFL players who of our minorities, right, that answers my own question. How is it that they have to pay so much more in child support than the richest man in the world? It's a white guy. Not great, modern civilization. So, yeah, that's the episode. how is this supposed to help our mental health?

Jeremy Schumacher: I need sometimes to just ground myself in saying some of these things out loud and knowing that there'll be people who listen and are nodding along. It makes me feel better to know that there are people who see these things for what they are and I'm not losing my mind. So, hooray for Part of my community is other therapists.  I promise I will have some guests soon. it is a matter of just aligning dates because I have guests lined up. It's just a matter of scheduling. It's not a strong suit of mine, but it's in the works. if you're watching on YouTube, thanks for stopping by and checking out the channel. Likes and subscribes are great. If you are listening to the podcast, appreciate that as well. leaving reviews andor sharing it are super helpful for that.

Jeremy Schumacher: Peace out y' Take care of somebody else. Peace.

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