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Your Therapist Needs Therapy 91 - The Bearded Therapist Talks Masculinity
In this episode, Jeremy breaks down the toxic masculinity grift peddled by guys like Joe Rogan, Elon Musk, and Jordan Peterson. We look at how these so-called "alpha males" profit off insecurity, why their version of masculinity is just a performance, and the real mental health crisis affecting men. I also explore how gender is a social construct, why these grifts thrive on shame, and what actual healthy masculinity looks like. Spoiler: it’s not about dominance or control—it's about connection, care, and breaking free from bullshit gender norms.
Here is the clip referenced regarding pro wrestling and drag as gender performance: SmartyPants "Wrestling is Drag"
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Yo, yo, yo, what's up, everybody?
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Welcome to another edition
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of Your Therapist Needs Therapy.
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I'm your host, Jeremy Schumacher,
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licensed marriage and family therapist.
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This is my last solo episode for a while.
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I promise,
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and I can back up that promise
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because I already recorded
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some other episodes.
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Go team.
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With some awesome guests.
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I'm genuinely stoked to be
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done talking by myself.
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That's for my YouTube
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channel where I talk about pop culture.
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We're going to talk a little
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bit of pop culture today.
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As the episode of the,
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this episode is titled,
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we're going to talk about
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masculinity and the grift of like,
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are men okay and it
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definitely plays into
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modern politics like the
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right-wing media grift is
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is deeply performative in
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its masculinity and a lot
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of the talking heads
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participate in that donald
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trump wears more makeup
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than I don't know I'm gonna
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comfortably say most of the
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females in my life um and
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is like grossly out of
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shape joe rogan is so
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Before I get into it,
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because it's easy to dunk on these people,
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right?
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Like performative
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masculinity is stupid
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because the fact that you
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need to perform it means
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that you don't have it.
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And like we could go, you know,
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old school YouTube video
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essay and be like,
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here's what Guy Debord has to say about.
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performative masculinity in
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Society of the Spectacle.
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Society of the Spectacle is a great book,
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covers a lot of our modern stuff,
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being all performance and no substance,
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which is predominantly Joe Rogan,
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is Pat McAfee, is
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any of the dating bros.
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And like,
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I don't even know their names
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enough to be like these
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ones in particular,
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because they're all like
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bad and do the same shit.
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The guys who sell like
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masculinity retreats,
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former Navy SEAL who grew
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his beard out and looks like a badass.
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And so, yeah,
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I titled this episode to poke
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fun at that because I think
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it is important to make fun
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of the grifters.
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They're not masculine.
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They're performative.
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They are pretending.
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And the thing they are
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pretending means that it
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isn't genuine or they
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wouldn't need to perform it.
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Right?
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So, yeah.
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And, like,
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let's talk about what does
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masculinity mean?
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The divine masculine.
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I don't even know if
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masculine has a divine.
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I only ever hear the divine feminine.
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Gosh, like, let's stop gendering bullshit.
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Gender inherently isn't good, bad,
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or otherwise, right?
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Like,
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the fact that we gender nonsensical
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things,
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the fact that we think boys wear
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blue and girls wear pink is
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pointlessly gendered.
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Gender is the social construct,
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which means different
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societies build an idea about
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And that becomes a social norm.
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And so social constructs
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around gender have changed over time.
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Pink used to be a boy's color.
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And like, yo, I got blonde hair,
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blue eyes.
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I look great in pink.
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So, you know, like,
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none of this makes any sense.
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I just finished White Lotus season one.
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I have a video about that.
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And like, or one upcoming.
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It's recorded.
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uh armand looks baller in
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that pink sport coat I got
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a pink sport coat coaching
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women's volleyball we
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always have a breast cancer
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awareness game and like
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yeah wear the pink sport
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coat it's bomb um so I I I
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watch other things that are
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performative right I'm a
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huge pro wrestling fan
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gender in pro wrestling is
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performative right like the
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women have breast implants
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and like are supposed to
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quote unquote supposed to
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look a certain way which is
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very sexy and like women's
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wrestling is a weird case
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study because it's been
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shifting and changing over
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the years it used to just
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be bra and panties matches
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and now it's like look the
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women can wrestle too
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aren't we progressive for
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thinking that women can
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wrestle too hey we let the
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women main event aren't we
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progressive while like Vince McMahon is
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sexually abusing and
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shitting on women's heads
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um literally like and
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figuratively uh but hey
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linda mcmahon's on trump's
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cabinet so the
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investigation into vince
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went away I don't know what
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a dumb timeline to be alive
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uh but pro wrestling is is
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performative in the same
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way that like um one of those dropouts
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videos has has done this in
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a comedic way done it well
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saying that like drag and
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pro wrestling are the same
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thing and that like drag is
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is about performing gender
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it is theater pro wrestling
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is the theater kids who
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happen to like
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weightlifting um you know
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like it it's performance
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it's storytelling it's
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cirque de soleil meets the nhl
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plus Shakespeare,
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like pro wrestling is weird.
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And this isn't a pro wrestling thing,
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but like pro wrestlers are fake tan.
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They have spray tans.
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They're doing supplementation, wink, wink,
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nudge, nudge, uh,
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to have their bodies look a certain way.
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It's all performative so
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that you can sell the story
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of this is the good guy.
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This is the bad guy.
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And they can turn those
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dials up and down depending
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on which story they want to tell.
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Um,
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And for a while, like that sold.
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Magnum TA in the eighties
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was like masculinity.
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Dude had a fucking perm and a tan.
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Like, I don't know.
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Gender doesn't make sense to
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me because I'm autistic, I guess.
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But also like, not I guess, I am.
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But like,
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I guess that's why it doesn't
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make sense to me.
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It's always seemed so very arbitrary.
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Like what is, why is that thing masculine?
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because Magnum TA had a baller mustache.
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Why is body hair masculine?
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Doesn't everybody have body
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hair on some level?
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Why is the upper lip hair
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masculine and then the rest
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of the hair needs to be
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removed if you're a pro wrestler?
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I don't understand.
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But modern pro wrestling,
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I'm spending too long on pro wrestling.
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I'm losing some of you, I can tell.
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there are good examples of masculinity.
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Hangman Adam Page is like a
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repackage of Magnum TA,
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but the millennial version.
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He's the anxious millennial cowboy.
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He cut a promo on
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taking time off and spending
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time with his kid when he
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first became a dad was
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masculine and like great I
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don't think we need to
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gender being a good parent
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but like kind of I think
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there is this pushback of
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like we need to sell some
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version of masculinity for
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people who are like being
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pulled into the right-wing
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grift um and it's based on
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shame like somehow you are
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not enough or you are not
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meeting some standard and
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like we the game is to not
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get people to think that
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the standard is made up
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right but rogan is let's
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let's talk about I'm for a
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second let's talk about
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punching up or punching
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down I don't want to pick
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on and I wouldn't encourage
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people and I don't want to
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engage in making fun of
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people who fall for the
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grift right those are
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people who are looking for help
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want self-improvement who
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want something to be
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different in their lives
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and they're drawn into
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something by con men and
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like that sucks they're
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being victimized by the
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people with power I do want
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to punch up joe rogan has I
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think still maybe it's not
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anymore but I think it's
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still in like the top five
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or top three or whatever
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most popular podcasts in
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the world donald trump is
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the president of the united
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states elon musk is the
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richest man in the world
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and like whatever
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some of that probably
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deserves some asterisks, but like,
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I'm not picking on random
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dude who has social anxiety
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or a stutter or is balding or whatever,
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and is insecure about that
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and wants help.
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Like,
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good I'm glad that people
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want to self-improve if
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that's what they want I
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think pursuing
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self-improvement because
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you think you are somehow
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deficient because society
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has said x y or z you know
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wealthy dudes get hair
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plugs like I don't know
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what to tell you like it's
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okay if you're balding that
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happens to pretty much everyone
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it's genetic.
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There's not a lot you can do about it.
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And it's certainly not your fault.
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You know, like that's not a,
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that's not a thing that
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people should be judged on height.
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Not,
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not a thing that people should be
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judged on the whole like
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dating world where like
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women want dudes who are
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six foot or over.
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So you have all these like
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dudes who are five, nine or five,
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ten saying they're six foot
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and going out on dates.
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And then like people being like,
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Dang, you're really tall.
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Because we have warped this
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idea of what height even is.
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I'm taking a break to rub my
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forehead because it's all so dumb.
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And like, right.
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Because it's made up.
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Social norms are made up.
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Social constructs are things
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that are built out of nothing.
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It provides structure to a nothing space.
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But it isn't based on anything.
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And it's not a good system
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because there's no backing to it.
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Insert, same goes for capitalism.
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So I don't have a problem
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punching up at these grifters because,
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again,
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I will make fun of them for the
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things that they are
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performing because they
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don't really have them.
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And they're in a position of power.
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I am speaking up to them.
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They have more viewers.
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They have more money.
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They could have me deported illegally.
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Not deported.
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We'd just call it kidnapping.
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They could have me kidnapped.
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um and so there's a
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resistance to this but also
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like a reality to this this
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isn't just I'm mad at these
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people because I don't like
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rich assholes but that's
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true I don't like rich
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assholes uh I am mad that
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they are using their power
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to hurt other people right
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and I guess that's that's
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what I care about so let's
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sort of go through the
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right-wing grifters with daddy issues um
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I'm just going to end up
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doing a YouTube review of
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Father Time by Kendrick
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Lamar because he has a way
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with words and it's just
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going to articulate what
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I'm going to take.
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Forty minutes to say in a
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three minute song.
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Rogan is deeply insecure about his height.
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We know this.
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He is like weirdly
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possessive of pictures that
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people take of him where
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like he stands and he like
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tries to get forced
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perspective and he doesn't
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want his whole body to be
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photographed because he's quite small.
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And he's been doing like
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human growth hormone,
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which messes up some of
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like your diaphragm and the
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way that your chest looks really weird.
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And like, yeah, again,
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like deeply self-conscious.
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I think he's owned being bald.
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But again,
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if you go back early in his career, like,
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He was balding and was like
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trying to cover it up.
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And at some point you just
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shave that shit off and like run with it.
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Right.
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Like, again,
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I don't think whether you have
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hair or not is an important thing.
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Look at this.
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These lovely locks.
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If you're watching it on YouTube,
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my hair is quite long.
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It's all natural.
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No plugs or hair surgery or whatever.
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I did for a while work next
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to a place that sold hair plugs.
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And I really wanted to just be like, hey,
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will you pay me to be your
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sponsor even though my hair
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is all natural?
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I'm the vision of what you're selling,
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right?
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And again,
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it's something that I didn't work for.
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I didn't deserve.
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I haven't done anything for it.
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I wash and comb my hair regularly.
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And that's it.
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I mean, I condition it too, but like,
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you know, wash, condition, comb.
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I don't blow dry it or dye it.
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I like, I don't harm it,
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but I don't really take great care of it.
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Specifically,
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I put it up when it's wet all the time,
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which supposedly is bad for it.
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It was just like genetic lottery, right?
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Like both my grandpas had
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full heads of hair when they died.
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like an old man way not like
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they had like luscious
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locks but like neither of
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them went bald and so it
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seems unlikely that I will
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go bald unless like the
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stress gets to me which is
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definitely possible the
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theme of the podcast comes
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into why I have maintained
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my hair in spite of a
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stressful lifestyle not
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even my lifestyle is very
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calm just a stressful job um
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So yeah, like, and Rogan's like five too.
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So like, you know,
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the Rogan bros would be like, dude,
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he's like got the strongest
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kick power in the world.
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He could like beat you up in a fight.
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It's like, well,
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if he could reach me
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because it'd be a cartoon where like,
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you know,
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I reach out and hold his head
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and then his feet won't
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reach me because he's so short.
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And like, again,
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this is me being shitty
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because I'm punching up.
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I don't know what Joe
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Rogan's kick power is.
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I know I'm thirty six years old,
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run my mouth a lot and have
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never been in a fight.
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Because like, I don't know,
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traumatic brain injuries
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are bad for you and I care
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about my brain health.
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And so, yeah, I've never been in a fight.
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I have antagonized lots of
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people while playing sports with them.
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I think I was slapped once
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by a guy that I was making fun of.
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A guy that I worked with who
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was dating a seventeen year
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old when he was eighteen.
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So there's just a lot of jokes about like,
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do her parents call you by
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your name or do they call
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you the babysitter?
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you know,
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immature but somewhat
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good-natured ribbing that
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went on for far too long
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until he slapped me.
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I guess that's the closest
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I've come to a fight.
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And, like, I didn't throw hands because,
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yeah,
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I'd been messing with this guy for a week,
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you know,
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because I worked on a golf
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course and we were all bored.
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I'm not defending it.
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I was a bit of a bully.
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That's not great behavior.
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I was young and working on a
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golf course every summer.
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You found your own
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entertainment because it
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was a boring job.
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Sorry, Kyle.
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It's okay that you slapped me.
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I deserved it.
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Don't promote physical
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violence unless it's against CEOs.
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Punching up is okay, right?
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I'd been bullying him for a
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week for something that was
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out of his control.
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It wasn't anything bad or wrong.
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They were both in high school,
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started dating.
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He turned eighteen before she did.
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Nothing yucky or gross about it.
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And I was making fun of him
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because I was bored in my summer job.
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My younger self wasn't great,
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I will admit.
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But no, like, I don't know.
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I've never been in a fight.
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And in spite of talking like this,
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like this is how I show up
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pretty much everywhere and
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kind of run my mouth
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because I don't know.
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I trust my mouth to be able
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to also like get me out of trouble.
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And I'm not interested in
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engaging in a physical altercation.
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Like I don't need to prove
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my masculinity by engaging in a fight.
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I will probably just outsmart someone,
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because that's my MO.
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But also, I don't want to get in a fight,
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because I care about my brain.
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And I don't care about some
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social constructs of
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masculinity more than not
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getting a concussion.
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It's pretty high on my list of priorities.
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Let's not get concussed.
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Seems good.
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Protect the noggin.
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So yeah, Joe Rogan's kick power.
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doesn't really mean anything
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to me because I would not
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ever want to engage in a
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physical altercation like that.
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So yeah,
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like the thing that his defenders
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are going to be like, well,
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he could beat you up.
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It's like,
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probably because he trains in
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kickboxing or whatever.
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And I don't.
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And also I would never get
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in a fight with him.
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I would challenge Joe Rogan
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to play volleyball against
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me because that is the
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thing that I train in.
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And I would beat him at it
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because he couldn't reach
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over the height of the net.
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And because I train at it
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and I'm good at it.
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Like, again, nobody's good at everything.
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Like the fact that somebody
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could beat you at the thing
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that they're good at
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doesn't mean anything.
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Right.
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And like this idea that
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everything needs to be a
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competition is unhealthy.
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And the idea that everything
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that men do is competitive
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is also unhealthy.
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And I say that as a deeply
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competitive person, like I like to win.
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I grew up in a family of sports.
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I've had to work with this
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idea of masculinity my whole life.
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A,
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because I'm neurodivergent and none of
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it ever made sense to me.
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And B,
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because like I was socialized male
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in a patriarchal society in
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a high control religious family.
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that definitely thinks
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gender norms are like God
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given and God has a penis
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and he cares deeply where
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your penis goes.
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Uh, but no homo, right?
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Like we got to clarify that
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if we're conservative Christians.
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Um,
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So like I had all this messaging around it,
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but none of it ever made sense to me.
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And so I don't like grow my
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hair out to be like, ha ha,
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Joe Rogan's bald.
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But for, I don't know,
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I've had this long hair for twelve,
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thirteen years now.
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I've grown my hair out for a long time.
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I cut it every two or three
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years and donate it to
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little kids with cancer who
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need wigs because I have
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baller hair and because I
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don't like getting my hair cut.
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It's not to be like, look at me,
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I look like Thor or Clay Matthews.
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although I do, it's not like that.
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It's truly because I have
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sensory issues and I don't
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like being touched and
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therefore going to get my
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haircut is deeply uncomfortable for me.
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And it's lucky for me that I
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have a great head of hair
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so I can just grow my hair
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out for as long as I do.
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The reason I have the beard
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is not because I'm like,
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that looks great.
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And I love when it
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drags across my plate while
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I'm eating food because it's so long,
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it's because I don't like
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shaving every day because
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my hair grows fast.
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And if I shave and try to be clean shaven,
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it'd be a lot of effort.
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And honestly, I don't much care for that.
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There's the background to
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the masculinity vibe I've got going on.
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And like, again,
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masculinity is so fucking
00:19:35.507 --> 00:19:36.968
stupid because like,
00:19:37.127 --> 00:19:38.410
does a dude with long hair,
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is that masculine?
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And the answer is sort of, right?
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Nobody's looking at Chris
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Hemsworth roided out of his
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mind for the Thor movies being like,
00:19:48.426 --> 00:19:50.147
that guy looks like a girl.
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But he has long girl hair.
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I think it's a wig for some of the movies.
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But because he has muscles?
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I don't know.
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Are right-wing grifters
00:20:02.394 --> 00:20:03.714
aware that women also have
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muscles that they can build
00:20:05.935 --> 00:20:07.696
through weightlifting or taking steroids?
00:20:09.127 --> 00:20:12.588
certain pro wrestlers who's, it's fine.
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I'm not going to name names.
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Not that pro wrestlers are
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listening to my podcast.
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No, like, and again, like that's just it,
00:20:23.050 --> 00:20:23.251
right?
00:20:23.271 --> 00:20:24.551
Like women have body hair.
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Women have muscles.
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Like there isn't anything
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that's pointlessly gendered
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that isn't pointless, right?
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And like,
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that's me calling it pointlessly
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gendered.
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There's nothing that's
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gendered that needs to be.
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Right.
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Like, I don't know.
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All the right wing grifters
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are like wearing makeup and
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have their little like
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touch ups and like get
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their brows dyed and have
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their hair plugs and are on
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their human growth hormone.
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You know,
00:20:55.135 --> 00:20:57.856
like Jordan Peterson has lost a
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lot of jobs and isn't
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actually a licensed psychologist anymore.
00:21:01.739 --> 00:21:03.299
So he has to compensate by
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wearing shitty suits and
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like a pocket square.
00:21:07.028 --> 00:21:08.949
because that makes you seem distinguished.
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Cause like he's cosplaying at being Freud,
00:21:11.710 --> 00:21:12.990
but smoking cigars has
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fallen out of favor.
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So, you know, but like, what's his name?
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Uh, shit.
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The guy whose mom is a sex toy, uh,
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millionaire and his dad
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drilled oil or something.
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Marcus Aubrey, Aubrey Marcus,
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something like that.
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He likes to have men on and
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smoke cigars like big manly men.
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Um,
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Because Aaron Rodgers has
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been on his podcast.
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It's the only reason I know that.
00:21:41.824 --> 00:21:43.325
Aaron Rodgers, sad white guy.
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YouTube videos upcoming as well.
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masculinity is so dumb.
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Um, Pat McAfee's one too.
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That's just been like,
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the reason I'm doing this
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video is because McAfee has
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been irritating me lately.
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Um, because for a while he was like,
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kind of in that like
00:22:00.117 --> 00:22:02.140
harmless idiot stage that I
00:22:02.180 --> 00:22:04.181
think Rogan must've started at.
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And like,
00:22:05.221 --> 00:22:06.182
I've never been an active
00:22:06.242 --> 00:22:07.203
listener to Joe Rogan.
00:22:07.284 --> 00:22:07.884
So I don't know.
00:22:08.204 --> 00:22:09.465
I just imagine he was like
00:22:09.486 --> 00:22:11.067
that vibe for like people
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who didn't have an older brother,
00:22:12.307 --> 00:22:13.869
whose friends smoked weeds and were just
00:22:14.309 --> 00:22:15.390
or smoked weed and were just
00:22:15.410 --> 00:22:16.451
like fucking morons to
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listen to but when you're
00:22:17.391 --> 00:22:18.310
younger than them they seem
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cool and like the things
00:22:19.971 --> 00:22:21.451
they say seem intelligent
00:22:21.471 --> 00:22:23.373
but they're not um not
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speaking from experience
00:22:24.472 --> 00:22:25.413
here I did not hang out
00:22:25.433 --> 00:22:26.653
with my brother's older
00:22:26.693 --> 00:22:28.835
friends they seemed weird
00:22:28.875 --> 00:22:30.474
even at the time and I
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think they were if we
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reflect back I think my
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brother would agree with me on that um
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We were scared of drugs
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because we were raised
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evangelical Christians.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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And all the stoners I hung
00:22:46.559 --> 00:22:48.101
out with said stupid shit.
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So I guess I missed the Joe
00:22:49.961 --> 00:22:52.304
Rogan appeal of listening to
00:22:53.686 --> 00:22:56.611
a reality TV host ramble on
00:22:56.651 --> 00:22:58.373
with other celebrities for three hours,
00:22:58.472 --> 00:22:59.835
like just an interest me
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because he's not smart.
00:23:01.997 --> 00:23:02.998
And like the people that I
00:23:03.018 --> 00:23:04.220
like listening to are smart.
00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:05.480
I do like listening to
00:23:05.500 --> 00:23:06.241
people who are really good
00:23:06.281 --> 00:23:07.564
at like anything, right?
00:23:07.624 --> 00:23:07.784
Like,
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I would listen to Tony Hawk
00:23:09.472 --> 00:23:10.594
talk about skating.
00:23:10.634 --> 00:23:11.755
I would listen to a
00:23:11.815 --> 00:23:14.397
filmmaker talk about filmmaking.
00:23:15.259 --> 00:23:16.840
Not even like best of all time.
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Like I said, Tony Hawk,
00:23:17.961 --> 00:23:19.023
but I'm moving away from like,
00:23:19.223 --> 00:23:20.224
I don't even need to be the greatest.
00:23:20.265 --> 00:23:22.186
Like McAfee sort of started as like, hey,
00:23:22.227 --> 00:23:23.147
I played in the NFL.
00:23:23.167 --> 00:23:24.349
So I know what it's like to
00:23:24.690 --> 00:23:25.730
like play at that level.
00:23:26.092 --> 00:23:26.771
So I'll have football
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players on and talk about like
00:23:28.442 --> 00:23:29.782
This is what their locker room is like.
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And this is what happens in timeouts.
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And all that stuff is
00:23:32.684 --> 00:23:34.526
interesting to me because I
00:23:34.566 --> 00:23:35.606
do enjoy sports,
00:23:35.646 --> 00:23:36.367
even though I'll complain
00:23:36.387 --> 00:23:38.068
about them a lot and how
00:23:38.088 --> 00:23:40.050
they've been ruined by capitalism,
00:23:40.230 --> 00:23:40.691
et cetera.
00:23:41.070 --> 00:23:43.913
But the idea of listening to
00:23:43.952 --> 00:23:45.493
somebody who has been very
00:23:45.535 --> 00:23:46.875
successful in their field
00:23:47.016 --> 00:23:48.797
is interesting that the
00:23:48.896 --> 00:23:50.117
issue becomes when they
00:23:50.137 --> 00:23:51.358
start talking about other stuff.
00:23:51.898 --> 00:23:53.240
And then when they're wealthy,
00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:54.181
they think that they can
00:23:54.221 --> 00:23:55.442
talk about anything.
00:23:55.821 --> 00:23:56.422
because they don't have any
00:23:56.481 --> 00:23:57.423
consequences and then
00:23:57.442 --> 00:23:58.383
they're just fucking morons.
00:23:58.782 --> 00:24:00.503
And like, that's where Rogan has landed.
00:24:00.604 --> 00:24:00.784
Like,
00:24:00.943 --> 00:24:03.424
I don't think people hated Joe Rogan
00:24:04.164 --> 00:24:05.585
when he was a UFC
00:24:05.605 --> 00:24:07.185
commentator and he talked
00:24:07.205 --> 00:24:09.126
about UFC and like,
00:24:09.586 --> 00:24:10.767
cause he knows a lot about it.
00:24:11.267 --> 00:24:12.228
And like, so that's fine.
00:24:12.907 --> 00:24:14.008
What he doesn't know a lot
00:24:14.048 --> 00:24:16.128
about is how to do research
00:24:16.608 --> 00:24:18.549
or vaccine efficacy or
00:24:18.650 --> 00:24:21.851
public safety or how to run a democracy.
00:24:22.371 --> 00:24:24.332
Joe Rogan is a fucking moron.
00:24:25.132 --> 00:24:25.332
Um,
00:24:26.593 --> 00:24:27.913
He drops out of college.
00:24:28.074 --> 00:24:29.494
He's not a good comedian.
00:24:29.894 --> 00:24:30.256
You know,
00:24:30.336 --> 00:24:31.757
like there's a lot of things here
00:24:31.777 --> 00:24:33.817
where like he's not good at these things.
00:24:33.857 --> 00:24:35.980
We have a lot of evidence of that.
00:24:36.881 --> 00:24:39.142
And because he's insecure
00:24:39.722 --> 00:24:40.542
and he should just go to
00:24:40.603 --> 00:24:42.064
therapy and stop doing so
00:24:42.104 --> 00:24:43.664
many drugs because doing
00:24:43.684 --> 00:24:44.846
the drugs without doing any
00:24:44.905 --> 00:24:45.987
self-reflection and
00:24:46.007 --> 00:24:47.327
awareness and intention setting,
00:24:47.768 --> 00:24:48.709
preferably with the help of
00:24:48.729 --> 00:24:49.430
a professional,
00:24:50.190 --> 00:24:52.172
he's not made any progress actually.
00:24:52.632 --> 00:24:53.932
And he's just doing drugs.
00:24:55.807 --> 00:24:58.190
he's not self improving but
00:24:58.210 --> 00:24:59.912
he's insecure and like his
00:24:59.951 --> 00:25:00.913
dad seems like a piece of
00:25:00.952 --> 00:25:04.776
shit so again like sure so
00:25:05.217 --> 00:25:07.538
do a lot of monsters a lot
00:25:07.598 --> 00:25:08.779
of dudes with daddy issues
00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:11.481
trump musk like I don't
00:25:11.501 --> 00:25:12.323
know jordan peterson's
00:25:12.343 --> 00:25:13.364
background but it wouldn't
00:25:13.403 --> 00:25:14.244
surprise me if he had
00:25:14.265 --> 00:25:17.147
shitty parents um so like
00:25:17.627 --> 00:25:18.749
you know grown men with
00:25:18.788 --> 00:25:20.431
daddy issues like just go
00:25:20.451 --> 00:25:21.771
to therapy bro like
00:25:23.496 --> 00:25:25.597
you could do with a podcast like this,
00:25:25.698 --> 00:25:28.380
you know, like, Hey, I'm in therapy.
00:25:29.060 --> 00:25:30.742
I'm a therapist.
00:25:31.042 --> 00:25:32.384
I talked to other experts in the field.
00:25:32.483 --> 00:25:34.066
Cause I know a lot about this stuff.
00:25:34.165 --> 00:25:34.806
And I think that's
00:25:34.885 --> 00:25:36.166
interesting for people who
00:25:36.186 --> 00:25:37.769
want to listen to experts,
00:25:37.808 --> 00:25:39.250
talk about the thing they're experts in,
00:25:39.691 --> 00:25:41.652
but also like, I don't know.
00:25:42.413 --> 00:25:43.054
The difference between
00:25:43.094 --> 00:25:44.434
intelligence and wisdom is
00:25:44.494 --> 00:25:46.277
like knowing you don't know
00:25:46.317 --> 00:25:48.097
everything that you don't
00:25:48.117 --> 00:25:49.439
need to be good at everything.
00:25:50.272 --> 00:25:51.054
knowing that like
00:25:51.114 --> 00:25:52.134
masculinity is a
00:25:52.214 --> 00:25:53.214
performance and it's made
00:25:53.295 --> 00:25:54.836
up and it's not based on anything.
00:25:55.336 --> 00:25:56.657
So I'm not performing
00:25:56.698 --> 00:25:58.519
masculinity by having a big
00:25:58.559 --> 00:25:59.660
beard or long hair.
00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:00.661
I just don't like being
00:26:00.740 --> 00:26:02.041
touched by strangers.
00:26:02.522 --> 00:26:04.804
So I don't have a regular hairstylist.
00:26:05.345 --> 00:26:05.605
I do.
00:26:05.664 --> 00:26:06.286
Her name's Leah.
00:26:06.405 --> 00:26:07.686
I see her once every three years.
00:26:07.807 --> 00:26:08.626
She's delightful.
00:26:08.988 --> 00:26:10.068
She's not the reason I don't
00:26:10.108 --> 00:26:11.068
like getting my hair cut.
00:26:11.529 --> 00:26:13.991
That's just a me thing, right?
00:26:14.031 --> 00:26:15.613
I don't have a barber for
00:26:15.633 --> 00:26:16.453
like my facial hair.
00:26:16.753 --> 00:26:19.115
Leah just does pretty lady hair.
00:26:19.829 --> 00:26:20.150
And again,
00:26:20.170 --> 00:26:21.270
that's me saying it's pretty
00:26:21.310 --> 00:26:22.571
lady hair because that's
00:26:22.592 --> 00:26:24.113
how other people refer to it.
00:26:24.993 --> 00:26:26.315
I go to volleyball
00:26:26.335 --> 00:26:27.194
tournaments and people ask
00:26:27.234 --> 00:26:28.635
if they can comb my hair or
00:26:28.715 --> 00:26:30.678
cut my hair or touch my hair.
00:26:31.417 --> 00:26:33.078
No, I don't like being touched.
00:26:33.138 --> 00:26:34.140
That's the whole thing.
00:26:36.781 --> 00:26:38.063
Right, it's pointlessly gendered.
00:26:38.123 --> 00:26:39.163
I'm calling it lady hair.
00:26:39.183 --> 00:26:39.903
It's just hair.
00:26:40.585 --> 00:26:41.444
People have hair.
00:26:44.247 --> 00:26:45.708
I'm exhausted from talking
00:26:45.748 --> 00:26:46.588
about stupid shit.
00:26:47.013 --> 00:26:48.775
But there is like a real
00:26:49.015 --> 00:26:51.415
issue with not masculinity.
00:26:52.256 --> 00:26:53.576
That's not what's under attack.
00:26:53.977 --> 00:26:54.977
And if people are talking
00:26:55.017 --> 00:26:56.597
about like the men's crisis
00:26:56.637 --> 00:26:57.538
and men's mental health,
00:26:57.577 --> 00:26:58.378
and then they start talking
00:26:58.398 --> 00:26:59.459
about masculinity.
00:27:00.605 --> 00:27:02.207
which I'm only doing in response to them,
00:27:03.347 --> 00:27:06.289
is like they're missing the point, right?
00:27:06.950 --> 00:27:07.069
Oh,
00:27:07.130 --> 00:27:09.491
the bearded therapist was a joke at like,
00:27:09.632 --> 00:27:10.532
if you're in the Midwest,
00:27:10.593 --> 00:27:11.773
you know who already who
00:27:11.814 --> 00:27:13.194
I'm talking about because
00:27:13.214 --> 00:27:14.575
you drive by a billboard of
00:27:14.615 --> 00:27:15.855
his and it doesn't matter
00:27:15.895 --> 00:27:17.096
what state you're in in the Midwest.
00:27:17.136 --> 00:27:18.938
He claims to be a local and
00:27:18.958 --> 00:27:19.818
it's just like an average
00:27:19.858 --> 00:27:20.980
white bald dude who has a
00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:23.101
beard and that's his whole fucking brand.
00:27:23.821 --> 00:27:25.843
Like, I don't shave,
00:27:26.083 --> 00:27:27.845
hire me as your lawyer is a
00:27:28.085 --> 00:27:29.586
stupid tagline.
00:27:30.402 --> 00:27:32.163
I'm good at growing facial hair.
00:27:33.063 --> 00:27:35.763
Hire me as your therapist is stupid.
00:27:35.983 --> 00:27:37.305
Don't pick your therapist
00:27:37.404 --> 00:27:38.664
based on their facial hair.
00:27:39.904 --> 00:27:40.786
Unless you want to go to
00:27:40.826 --> 00:27:41.786
therapy because you can't
00:27:41.826 --> 00:27:44.846
grow a beard or like you can grow a beard,
00:27:44.886 --> 00:27:47.347
but like it stresses you out somehow.
00:27:47.748 --> 00:27:48.127
I don't know.
00:27:49.429 --> 00:27:50.469
I can tell you I don't know
00:27:50.509 --> 00:27:51.349
that much about growing
00:27:51.390 --> 00:27:52.950
beards or maintaining them.
00:27:53.250 --> 00:27:56.171
This just happened and it is fine.
00:27:56.471 --> 00:27:57.332
It works for me.
00:27:58.362 --> 00:27:58.682
You know?
00:27:58.961 --> 00:28:00.823
Like, I'm not an expert on it.
00:28:01.163 --> 00:28:02.203
I don't do anything.
00:28:03.104 --> 00:28:04.624
That's why masculinity is made up.
00:28:04.663 --> 00:28:04.805
Like,
00:28:04.845 --> 00:28:06.644
that's why the people who are
00:28:06.684 --> 00:28:08.326
performing it have to put
00:28:08.365 --> 00:28:09.886
in extra effort to perform it.
00:28:10.467 --> 00:28:11.767
Ben Shapiro's eyebrows are
00:28:11.846 --> 00:28:13.268
not that dark to begin with.
00:28:13.667 --> 00:28:14.748
Why are they so dark?
00:28:15.308 --> 00:28:17.068
Why is that a thing?
00:28:17.630 --> 00:28:18.609
Why does having dark
00:28:18.710 --> 00:28:22.330
eyebrows make you more masculine?
00:28:22.351 --> 00:28:24.551
Ben Shapiro and Matt Walsh confuse me.
00:28:26.113 --> 00:28:26.252
Um...
00:28:28.516 --> 00:28:29.876
Cause like they're theater
00:28:29.936 --> 00:28:31.057
kids who couldn't make it
00:28:31.076 --> 00:28:31.857
into the theater.
00:28:31.917 --> 00:28:32.817
So they went to politics.
00:28:32.999 --> 00:28:34.219
I guess they're not that confusing.
00:28:34.259 --> 00:28:35.460
I can summarize it like that.
00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:39.182
Um, Musk, we have lots of evidence.
00:28:39.201 --> 00:28:40.423
He's balding very early,
00:28:40.623 --> 00:28:43.565
early in his mid twenties, uh,
00:28:43.625 --> 00:28:45.826
has hair transplant.
00:28:45.865 --> 00:28:46.105
Trump,
00:28:46.695 --> 00:28:47.817
has hair transplant we know
00:28:47.836 --> 00:28:48.778
this like he's not even
00:28:48.817 --> 00:28:50.059
denied it and his exes have
00:28:50.099 --> 00:28:51.500
all talked about it he
00:28:51.840 --> 00:28:53.442
abused and raped his wife
00:28:53.462 --> 00:28:54.324
because she like told them
00:28:54.344 --> 00:28:56.906
they looked stupid so again
00:28:57.106 --> 00:28:58.548
like we knew that before he
00:28:58.587 --> 00:28:59.930
ran for president so if you
00:28:59.970 --> 00:29:04.074
voted for him you're not a good person uh
00:29:11.929 --> 00:29:13.429
He's also like, ah,
00:29:13.648 --> 00:29:14.930
the reason some of this
00:29:14.970 --> 00:29:15.789
coincides with like the
00:29:15.829 --> 00:29:17.210
rise of like AI art and
00:29:17.250 --> 00:29:18.371
like bullshit like that,
00:29:18.391 --> 00:29:20.191
because like you can't like
00:29:20.250 --> 00:29:21.611
look at a video of Trump
00:29:21.651 --> 00:29:23.092
playing tennis and think like.
00:29:25.511 --> 00:29:27.452
That's inspirational.
00:29:27.472 --> 00:29:30.653
That's what I want to be like when I'm.
00:29:30.733 --> 00:29:31.213
An adult.
00:29:33.054 --> 00:29:33.374
You know,
00:29:34.034 --> 00:29:36.194
like it's it's performative and
00:29:36.214 --> 00:29:36.974
they need to keep the
00:29:37.015 --> 00:29:38.996
performance up because if they stop,
00:29:39.076 --> 00:29:40.576
then like it looks stupid.
00:29:41.416 --> 00:29:42.436
like Trump won't go out in
00:29:42.457 --> 00:29:44.018
the rain because it'll ruin
00:29:44.057 --> 00:29:45.898
his hair and makeup.
00:29:45.999 --> 00:29:47.318
Like, I don't know if you're,
00:29:47.538 --> 00:29:48.640
if you're a strong man
00:29:48.900 --> 00:29:50.340
politician and you want to be like,
00:29:50.381 --> 00:29:50.760
look at me,
00:29:50.820 --> 00:29:52.760
I'm so masculine and I'm so great.
00:29:52.842 --> 00:29:53.882
Like probably don't have JD
00:29:53.902 --> 00:29:54.961
Vance as your VP,
00:29:55.321 --> 00:29:57.002
whose eyeliner is going to
00:29:57.042 --> 00:29:58.203
run if he goes out in the rain.
00:29:58.564 --> 00:30:00.183
And like, you guys are so strong,
00:30:00.223 --> 00:30:00.904
but you can't,
00:30:01.305 --> 00:30:04.125
you can't go out in the rain, you know,
00:30:04.566 --> 00:30:06.386
like not talking about like a hurricane,
00:30:06.406 --> 00:30:08.948
like mother nature, force of nature,
00:30:08.968 --> 00:30:09.307
like,
00:30:09.813 --> 00:30:11.273
You know, like, great.
00:30:11.574 --> 00:30:12.255
Mother Nature is going to
00:30:12.275 --> 00:30:13.134
win all the fights.
00:30:13.194 --> 00:30:14.777
You know, you can't beat a hurricane.
00:30:15.497 --> 00:30:16.798
Donald Trump thought he could nuke them.
00:30:17.778 --> 00:30:18.778
But like, you know,
00:30:19.099 --> 00:30:20.260
you can't handle a sprinkle
00:30:20.300 --> 00:30:22.001
because it ruins your facade.
00:30:22.041 --> 00:30:25.503
Like whatever idea you have of masculinity,
00:30:25.663 --> 00:30:26.144
it isn't.
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:29.480
I can't go out in the rain or I look weak.
00:30:30.241 --> 00:30:33.443
Like that's so weak.
00:30:33.463 --> 00:30:35.805
Right.
00:30:35.884 --> 00:30:36.144
And like,
00:30:36.204 --> 00:30:37.425
I think their performance is so
00:30:37.465 --> 00:30:38.567
over the top because it
00:30:38.646 --> 00:30:39.626
needs to be right.
00:30:39.666 --> 00:30:41.607
Like it is so weak.
00:30:41.667 --> 00:30:43.588
They are not clever.
00:30:43.829 --> 00:30:44.869
They are insecure.
00:30:44.970 --> 00:30:45.810
They are scared.
00:30:46.171 --> 00:30:46.931
And then they need to
00:30:46.971 --> 00:30:48.571
project strength from all of that.
00:30:48.791 --> 00:30:53.454
So like, yeah, I don't know.
00:30:54.817 --> 00:30:56.619
Andrew Tate is sexually
00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:58.461
assaulting women and then selling them.
00:30:59.021 --> 00:30:59.241
Like,
00:31:00.864 --> 00:31:02.505
not somebody we should listen to for
00:31:02.565 --> 00:31:05.708
dating advice.
00:31:05.807 --> 00:31:06.127
Right?
00:31:06.489 --> 00:31:09.070
Like, look at how many followers I have.
00:31:09.090 --> 00:31:10.112
You should listen to me.
00:31:10.172 --> 00:31:10.853
Like, I don't know.
00:31:10.893 --> 00:31:12.473
You look like a moron all the time.
00:31:13.234 --> 00:31:14.756
I shouldn't listen to you, Judge John.
00:31:15.537 --> 00:31:17.298
The content of what you say.
00:31:17.318 --> 00:31:19.381
Ugh.
00:31:20.162 --> 00:31:20.962
So like some critical
00:31:21.002 --> 00:31:23.145
thinking comes into some of this, right?
00:31:23.246 --> 00:31:25.209
Like why are the people who
00:31:25.269 --> 00:31:26.431
are claiming to be experts,
00:31:26.590 --> 00:31:27.692
experts on those things?
00:31:28.453 --> 00:31:29.955
Masculinity is made up.
00:31:30.376 --> 00:31:31.238
If you listen to somebody
00:31:31.258 --> 00:31:32.779
who studies like sociology
00:31:32.819 --> 00:31:34.682
and talks about like gender
00:31:34.722 --> 00:31:36.144
and stuff like that, it's,
00:31:38.722 --> 00:31:39.884
I don't want to say boring
00:31:39.943 --> 00:31:41.164
because that sounds mean,
00:31:41.525 --> 00:31:43.227
but I was a cultural studies minor,
00:31:43.547 --> 00:31:45.008
and I'm glad I didn't major
00:31:45.048 --> 00:31:46.189
in those classes because I
00:31:46.209 --> 00:31:47.190
got to minor and take the
00:31:47.210 --> 00:31:50.133
fun classes without doing the really,
00:31:50.212 --> 00:31:51.794
really deep theoretical
00:31:51.834 --> 00:31:53.935
classes that get so wordy
00:31:53.955 --> 00:31:54.777
and kind of up their own
00:31:54.916 --> 00:31:56.598
ass that it becomes very boring.
00:31:57.578 --> 00:31:58.440
And that's not saying people
00:31:58.519 --> 00:31:59.840
shouldn't study cultural studies.
00:31:59.942 --> 00:32:00.501
They should.
00:32:01.083 --> 00:32:02.384
They're saying when you get
00:32:02.403 --> 00:32:03.263
into studying...
00:32:04.557 --> 00:32:05.636
you know, postmodernism,
00:32:05.676 --> 00:32:06.477
and then you're reading, like,
00:32:06.537 --> 00:32:08.018
an eighteen-page paper on, like,
00:32:08.117 --> 00:32:09.458
hypermodernism, that, like,
00:32:09.758 --> 00:32:10.718
at some point you lose the
00:32:10.738 --> 00:32:11.798
ability to just go, like,
00:32:11.838 --> 00:32:13.919
talk to regular people at a
00:32:13.959 --> 00:32:15.659
coffee shop about what you're studying.
00:32:16.118 --> 00:32:17.980
And, like, right.
00:32:18.980 --> 00:32:20.180
That happens when you reach
00:32:20.299 --> 00:32:22.101
any sort of echelon of education.
00:32:22.181 --> 00:32:22.361
Like,
00:32:22.621 --> 00:32:24.780
at some point you have siloed your
00:32:25.280 --> 00:32:27.961
area of information to be
00:32:28.061 --> 00:32:29.221
so narrow as to only be
00:32:29.261 --> 00:32:29.942
able to talk to other
00:32:29.961 --> 00:32:31.242
people about that stuff.
00:32:32.303 --> 00:32:32.522
Right?
00:32:32.722 --> 00:32:32.823
Like...
00:32:34.067 --> 00:32:37.832
I don't want Aaron Rodgers, former MVP,
00:32:38.512 --> 00:32:39.394
NFL quarterback,
00:32:39.513 --> 00:32:40.776
to be giving me healthcare
00:32:40.796 --> 00:32:43.278
advice because he's really
00:32:43.298 --> 00:32:44.519
good at throwing a ball.
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:46.582
That doesn't mean he knows
00:32:46.643 --> 00:32:47.804
much about science.
00:32:49.460 --> 00:32:51.121
And like, we can be like, hey,
00:32:51.602 --> 00:32:52.461
let's double check.
00:32:52.481 --> 00:32:54.042
Does he know a lot about science?
00:32:54.384 --> 00:32:55.564
Well, he went to college,
00:32:55.964 --> 00:32:57.185
but he didn't graduate.
00:32:57.306 --> 00:32:58.125
So like, hmm,
00:32:58.246 --> 00:33:00.228
he might know a little bit about science,
00:33:00.288 --> 00:33:01.167
but not too much.
00:33:01.528 --> 00:33:02.769
What did he study in college?
00:33:03.089 --> 00:33:06.692
Communications, not communicable diseases.
00:33:06.912 --> 00:33:07.353
So like,
00:33:08.373 --> 00:33:09.394
maybe we should listen to him
00:33:09.413 --> 00:33:10.474
about throwing a ball,
00:33:10.755 --> 00:33:13.257
but not listen to him about diseases.
00:33:13.876 --> 00:33:14.657
That'd be great.
00:33:15.494 --> 00:33:16.855
Jordan Peterson's an interesting one,
00:33:16.895 --> 00:33:18.076
and I've done a long, long,
00:33:18.136 --> 00:33:19.557
long video about Jordan Peterson,
00:33:19.597 --> 00:33:20.857
and so have other people.
00:33:22.098 --> 00:33:23.579
I think Some More News did a
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:24.941
three-hour video on him.
00:33:26.221 --> 00:33:29.083
But he claims to be all sorts of things.
00:33:30.124 --> 00:33:31.183
So depending on what he
00:33:31.223 --> 00:33:32.045
wants to talk about,
00:33:32.105 --> 00:33:33.266
he has a different background.
00:33:33.865 --> 00:33:35.846
And I, as a neurodivergent person,
00:33:35.906 --> 00:33:36.847
can wrap my head around a
00:33:36.928 --> 00:33:37.608
little bit of that.
00:33:38.128 --> 00:33:39.490
I talk about doing religious trauma.
00:33:39.630 --> 00:33:40.509
I am a licensed marriage and
00:33:40.529 --> 00:33:41.310
family therapist.
00:33:41.391 --> 00:33:43.092
I have a background in sports psychology.
00:33:44.133 --> 00:33:44.732
And I work a lot with
00:33:44.772 --> 00:33:46.114
neurodivergent adults.
00:33:46.614 --> 00:33:48.435
That's four niche areas
00:33:48.496 --> 00:33:50.217
where I am a quote-unquote expert,
00:33:50.497 --> 00:33:51.438
according to society.
00:33:52.057 --> 00:33:53.338
What that just means is I've
00:33:53.378 --> 00:33:54.599
studied it a lot more than
00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:56.361
most other people have.
00:33:57.429 --> 00:33:58.430
not that I'm the greatest or
00:33:58.470 --> 00:34:00.651
the best or the go-to expert on it.
00:34:01.010 --> 00:34:01.211
It's like,
00:34:01.230 --> 00:34:02.151
I've spent a lot of time
00:34:02.391 --> 00:34:03.471
learning about these things.
00:34:04.893 --> 00:34:08.173
And so like, and that's a lot, you know,
00:34:08.213 --> 00:34:09.295
like that's a lot of stuff
00:34:09.574 --> 00:34:12.215
that's various disconnected
00:34:12.255 --> 00:34:13.356
information I have in my
00:34:13.376 --> 00:34:14.836
head because my brain is
00:34:14.896 --> 00:34:16.518
ADHD and I like pick a new
00:34:16.538 --> 00:34:17.958
hyper-focus every once in a while,
00:34:18.139 --> 00:34:19.800
even in a career that I am
00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:21.240
the same career.
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:22.561
Like I'm still a therapist.
00:34:22.581 --> 00:34:23.382
I've been doing therapy for
00:34:26.443 --> 00:34:27.525
you know four different
00:34:27.625 --> 00:34:30.007
areas um but what peterson
00:34:30.047 --> 00:34:30.829
does is like I'm an
00:34:30.889 --> 00:34:32.552
evolutionary psychologist
00:34:32.831 --> 00:34:34.614
I'm a biopsychosocial
00:34:34.655 --> 00:34:36.277
psychologist I'm an expert
00:34:36.396 --> 00:34:37.719
on like he's he's doing
00:34:37.739 --> 00:34:38.880
these different things and
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:40.061
like trying to attack
00:34:40.081 --> 00:34:41.364
psychologists on the end
00:34:41.885 --> 00:34:43.206
but like he's not
00:34:44.501 --> 00:34:47.362
He did have his PhD and he was a teacher,
00:34:47.742 --> 00:34:48.643
but it seems like his
00:34:48.802 --> 00:34:51.603
actual area of focus was quite narrow.
00:34:52.684 --> 00:34:54.125
He's not somebody who has
00:34:54.164 --> 00:34:56.324
that ADHD life background
00:34:56.364 --> 00:34:57.905
where he's done a ton of
00:34:57.965 --> 00:34:59.545
different stuff because he
00:34:59.585 --> 00:35:00.606
just can't sit still.
00:35:01.487 --> 00:35:03.567
And that's an oversimplification of ADHD.
00:35:03.606 --> 00:35:04.987
I don't mean that in an offensive way.
00:35:05.248 --> 00:35:07.088
Obviously, I have ADHD,
00:35:07.148 --> 00:35:08.208
so I can speak somewhat
00:35:08.228 --> 00:35:09.668
colloquially about it sometimes.
00:35:09.728 --> 00:35:11.188
But you occasionally will
00:35:11.228 --> 00:35:12.610
read about a famous person who...
00:35:15.085 --> 00:35:15.867
I can never remember the
00:35:15.887 --> 00:35:16.927
pitcher's name is like this
00:35:16.967 --> 00:35:18.028
guy who pitched in like the
00:35:18.068 --> 00:35:19.090
nineteen twenties world
00:35:19.130 --> 00:35:20.632
series and like would just
00:35:20.692 --> 00:35:22.092
wander off and like go cut
00:35:22.132 --> 00:35:24.735
down trees and like fought
00:35:24.755 --> 00:35:25.896
in a war and some other
00:35:25.936 --> 00:35:27.338
stuff and just like what
00:35:27.378 --> 00:35:29.039
like what and like that
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:30.762
life doesn't make any sense
00:35:30.802 --> 00:35:31.822
except like oh well I get
00:35:31.842 --> 00:35:32.804
you said ADHD like
00:35:34.123 --> 00:35:35.284
He was really good at this thing.
00:35:35.385 --> 00:35:36.226
Not the best ever,
00:35:36.666 --> 00:35:37.628
but like really good at it
00:35:37.648 --> 00:35:38.429
because his brain moves
00:35:38.469 --> 00:35:39.329
really quickly and he picks
00:35:39.349 --> 00:35:40.170
it up really fast and he
00:35:40.190 --> 00:35:41.090
got bored and he moved on.
00:35:41.972 --> 00:35:42.612
I get that.
00:35:43.373 --> 00:35:44.375
That's not Jordan Peterson.
00:35:44.414 --> 00:35:48.579
He's just lying about stuff.
00:35:48.619 --> 00:35:51.402
So where was I going with that?
00:35:51.581 --> 00:35:53.965
Oh, so what are we sort of left with?
00:35:54.025 --> 00:35:54.945
Well, we're left with like
00:35:56.501 --> 00:35:59.824
Dudes who are like feeling disconnected.
00:36:00.565 --> 00:36:02.246
And again, like, I think that's real.
00:36:02.646 --> 00:36:04.568
Do men as a demographic have
00:36:04.588 --> 00:36:05.849
a problem with their mental health?
00:36:06.028 --> 00:36:06.349
Yes.
00:36:06.789 --> 00:36:08.170
Does every demographic have
00:36:08.190 --> 00:36:09.012
a problem with their mental
00:36:09.032 --> 00:36:09.652
health right now?
00:36:10.052 --> 00:36:10.432
Yes.
00:36:10.893 --> 00:36:11.833
No one's thriving.
00:36:13.074 --> 00:36:14.215
What is it about men specifically?
00:36:14.295 --> 00:36:16.137
Well, like nothing specific, right?
00:36:16.456 --> 00:36:17.737
So you have to make something up.
00:36:17.757 --> 00:36:18.518
You have to throw in the
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:20.561
masculinity grift there to be like, oh,
00:36:20.581 --> 00:36:21.961
this is what's wrong with men.
00:36:22.382 --> 00:36:23.822
That women are making them
00:36:23.862 --> 00:36:25.204
feel bad about themselves.
00:36:27.565 --> 00:36:28.746
That's not my full Jordan
00:36:28.806 --> 00:36:29.586
Peterson impression.
00:36:29.626 --> 00:36:31.467
That's just like my shitty dude talking,
00:36:31.588 --> 00:36:31.947
I guess.
00:36:33.068 --> 00:36:33.847
It's a little bit of like
00:36:33.887 --> 00:36:35.289
Barney from The Simpsons
00:36:36.009 --> 00:36:36.889
and a little bit of my
00:36:36.929 --> 00:36:38.010
impression of my dad.
00:36:38.530 --> 00:36:39.971
It's just an easy register
00:36:40.010 --> 00:36:41.791
for my voice to go into, I guess.
00:36:42.110 --> 00:36:44.072
You can also do Kermit the Frog from there,
00:36:44.172 --> 00:36:46.112
but not what I was going for either.
00:36:50.213 --> 00:36:51.695
Here's my ADHD coming through.
00:36:52.434 --> 00:36:53.554
I've been sitting still for
00:36:53.614 --> 00:36:55.096
too long looking into a camera.
00:36:57.717 --> 00:36:59.737
The issue with men's mental health is that,
00:36:59.777 --> 00:36:59.998
like,
00:37:00.137 --> 00:37:01.639
late-stage capitalism has made
00:37:01.759 --> 00:37:02.759
everyone lonely.
00:37:02.878 --> 00:37:04.260
So men and, like,
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:06.940
male in America is a privileged status,
00:37:07.081 --> 00:37:07.300
right?
00:37:07.420 --> 00:37:10.302
Like, that doesn't mean men are bad.
00:37:10.342 --> 00:37:11.942
That means patriarchy is bad.
00:37:12.902 --> 00:37:14.463
Capitalism is also bad,
00:37:14.583 --> 00:37:15.324
and there are men who are
00:37:15.364 --> 00:37:16.483
negatively affected by it.
00:37:16.943 --> 00:37:18.264
Honestly, most of them.
00:37:19.425 --> 00:37:19.644
Right?
00:37:19.704 --> 00:37:19.965
But, like,
00:37:19.985 --> 00:37:20.545
you have to have this
00:37:20.646 --> 00:37:22.527
intersectional... this lens
00:37:22.567 --> 00:37:24.427
on intersectionality to understand that,
00:37:24.467 --> 00:37:26.047
like, men, male...
00:37:27.018 --> 00:37:29.719
is a privileged class and
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:32.521
being poor isn't.
00:37:32.981 --> 00:37:34.061
So anyone who's not super
00:37:34.101 --> 00:37:35.342
wealthy is struggling.
00:37:35.782 --> 00:37:37.722
Dudes don't have a lot of
00:37:37.802 --> 00:37:39.443
social spaces where they can go and meet.
00:37:40.262 --> 00:37:41.344
That's true for everyone.
00:37:43.063 --> 00:37:45.264
Closing of third spaces and
00:37:45.284 --> 00:37:46.364
community spaces that are
00:37:46.385 --> 00:37:48.206
available to anyone in any
00:37:48.246 --> 00:37:49.126
financial status
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:51.400
is a problem in late stage capitalism.
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:52.679
Men's mental health,
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:54.400
like we don't have a male
00:37:54.460 --> 00:37:55.481
loneliness epidemic.
00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:58.822
We have dudes who can't meet
00:37:58.862 --> 00:37:59.882
anywhere for free.
00:38:00.222 --> 00:38:01.702
It's expensive to rent a
00:38:01.742 --> 00:38:03.244
golf cart and go out on the
00:38:03.284 --> 00:38:04.443
links for a couple hours.
00:38:04.543 --> 00:38:06.565
If you don't have any expendable income,
00:38:06.864 --> 00:38:08.726
you can't go do that once a week.
00:38:09.318 --> 00:38:09.538
Right.
00:38:09.878 --> 00:38:12.800
So like it's not that men
00:38:13.581 --> 00:38:14.882
have a loneliness epidemic
00:38:15.083 --> 00:38:16.664
is that people by and large
00:38:16.704 --> 00:38:18.365
are disconnected in our modern society.
00:38:18.646 --> 00:38:19.327
And that's an issue with
00:38:19.367 --> 00:38:20.427
late stage capitalism.
00:38:20.947 --> 00:38:22.750
Joe Rogan isn't going to do
00:38:22.769 --> 00:38:24.110
a podcast episode on late
00:38:24.130 --> 00:38:25.632
stage capitalism because
00:38:25.652 --> 00:38:27.114
he's a bootlicker and a class traitor.
00:38:27.947 --> 00:38:28.847
But more importantly,
00:38:29.068 --> 00:38:30.668
because he's wealthy and he
00:38:30.688 --> 00:38:32.009
doesn't want the system to change.
00:38:32.070 --> 00:38:34.130
He's not going to address the real issue.
00:38:34.610 --> 00:38:35.692
And the real issue is
00:38:35.871 --> 00:38:37.152
obvious and backed by research.
00:38:37.273 --> 00:38:40.474
So he has to make up a villain to blame.
00:38:41.695 --> 00:38:42.215
Women?
00:38:42.615 --> 00:38:43.295
Question mark?
00:38:44.936 --> 00:38:47.059
Is the attack on masculinity.
00:38:48.257 --> 00:38:49.177
Like, I don't know.
00:38:49.836 --> 00:38:50.898
We have a president who's a
00:38:50.938 --> 00:38:53.277
felon for sexual assault.
00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:56.179
And it doesn't seem like
00:38:56.219 --> 00:38:58.380
that has hindered his life too much.
00:38:59.059 --> 00:39:01.021
So I think men still have it
00:39:01.061 --> 00:39:03.800
easier than women.
00:39:03.820 --> 00:39:04.942
Based on that case study.
00:39:06.842 --> 00:39:07.983
And a lot of other data.
00:39:08.802 --> 00:39:10.143
So, yeah.
00:39:10.362 --> 00:39:12.184
Like, I don't know.
00:39:13.903 --> 00:39:15.065
Go to therapy.
00:39:15.085 --> 00:39:15.164
Like...
00:39:16.617 --> 00:39:18.739
This isn't me, like, grifting for therapy,
00:39:18.818 --> 00:39:19.099
right?
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:22.081
Like, Joe Rogan wants you to do, you know,
00:39:23.081 --> 00:39:24.123
whatever supplement he's
00:39:24.163 --> 00:39:25.182
selling on his website.
00:39:27.264 --> 00:39:31.206
And probably, like, human growth hormone.
00:39:31.547 --> 00:39:33.228
Testosterone coffee sold to
00:39:33.248 --> 00:39:34.768
you by a former Navy SEAL
00:39:34.809 --> 00:39:35.909
who has a beard now.
00:39:35.969 --> 00:39:36.951
Look at that beard.
00:39:38.192 --> 00:39:38.972
I just hate, like,
00:39:39.032 --> 00:39:41.052
the beard industry as
00:39:41.092 --> 00:39:42.273
someone who has a beard.
00:39:42.773 --> 00:39:43.355
Because...
00:39:45.358 --> 00:39:47.340
I didn't do anything, right?
00:39:47.539 --> 00:39:51.400
Like I could be like, wife,
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:53.842
look at how much facial hair I have.
00:39:53.922 --> 00:39:56.922
And she'd be like, not impressed.
00:39:57.362 --> 00:39:57.782
I was like,
00:39:58.143 --> 00:39:59.003
look at how good I am at
00:39:59.043 --> 00:40:00.023
growing a mustache.
00:40:00.043 --> 00:40:01.463
Let me shave off my beard so
00:40:01.503 --> 00:40:03.025
I can do some crazy handlebars,
00:40:03.364 --> 00:40:05.365
which I could do with this bad boy.
00:40:06.347 --> 00:40:07.507
Not attractive, right?
00:40:07.568 --> 00:40:09.889
Like I'm aware of this.
00:40:11.210 --> 00:40:12.210
I talked briefly about
00:40:12.269 --> 00:40:13.250
dressing up for a gaming
00:40:13.289 --> 00:40:14.891
convention as Eggman,
00:40:14.971 --> 00:40:16.391
which would require me to get a bald cap.
00:40:16.431 --> 00:40:17.431
And I don't know how that works,
00:40:17.532 --> 00:40:18.472
but I definitely have the
00:40:18.512 --> 00:40:19.731
mustache to do an Eggman.
00:40:19.791 --> 00:40:20.893
If I shaved my beard,
00:40:21.893 --> 00:40:23.132
the mustache would be pretty epic.
00:40:23.994 --> 00:40:24.673
My wife talked me out of
00:40:24.693 --> 00:40:25.733
that because she said I
00:40:25.753 --> 00:40:29.775
would not be attractive to her.
00:40:29.815 --> 00:40:31.335
I like to shave my beard when it gets hot,
00:40:31.396 --> 00:40:31.835
no matter what.
00:40:32.476 --> 00:40:33.817
Why am I on beard culture again?
00:40:34.621 --> 00:40:36.163
because of the title who was
00:40:36.222 --> 00:40:38.403
I making fun of can't
00:40:38.423 --> 00:40:42.206
remember oh low tea coffee
00:40:42.427 --> 00:40:43.927
high tea coffee high
00:40:43.967 --> 00:40:45.347
testosterone coffee sold by
00:40:45.387 --> 00:40:46.969
bearded navy seals I
00:40:47.009 --> 00:40:49.831
remember does having a
00:40:49.871 --> 00:40:51.152
beard mean you know how to
00:40:51.172 --> 00:40:52.733
make good coffee beans it
00:40:52.813 --> 00:40:54.873
doesn't that's unrelated so
00:40:54.934 --> 00:40:55.614
probably not a good
00:40:55.653 --> 00:40:58.115
marketing marketing tactic um
00:40:58.831 --> 00:41:00.514
Unless you're cashing in on
00:41:00.554 --> 00:41:01.275
someone who's already
00:41:01.295 --> 00:41:02.836
feeling insecure and your
00:41:02.876 --> 00:41:04.119
business model is to keep
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:06.961
them insecure so you can sell them shit.
00:41:06.981 --> 00:41:07.983
That's not my model.
00:41:08.023 --> 00:41:09.846
That's not why I'm saying go to therapy.
00:41:10.253 --> 00:41:11.512
I'm saying you need to do therapy with me.
00:41:11.733 --> 00:41:12.914
I'm saying work on yourself.
00:41:13.213 --> 00:41:13.853
It would be great.
00:41:14.114 --> 00:41:15.355
Therapy is great for working
00:41:15.394 --> 00:41:16.315
on yourself because you're
00:41:16.355 --> 00:41:18.436
paying an expert to work
00:41:18.576 --> 00:41:19.976
very specifically and come
00:41:19.996 --> 00:41:22.398
up with a personalized plan for you.
00:41:23.137 --> 00:41:23.597
It's like,
00:41:24.438 --> 00:41:25.458
I don't have a better example
00:41:25.498 --> 00:41:26.778
than like a mechanic who
00:41:26.818 --> 00:41:28.059
comes in and is like, oh,
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:30.239
you drive a twenty ten Toyota.
00:41:30.521 --> 00:41:32.221
Here's what parts that needs.
00:41:32.501 --> 00:41:33.202
They were designed
00:41:33.342 --> 00:41:34.282
specifically for the twenty
00:41:34.322 --> 00:41:36.063
ten Toyota that you drive.
00:41:36.083 --> 00:41:37.163
That's what therapy is like.
00:41:37.342 --> 00:41:38.143
Here's this thing.
00:41:38.342 --> 00:41:39.583
It works really well for most people.
00:41:39.925 --> 00:41:40.766
What you're telling me about
00:41:40.806 --> 00:41:42.148
yourself sounds like this.
00:41:42.188 --> 00:41:42.989
So let's use this thing
00:41:43.010 --> 00:41:44.471
that's designed specifically for that.
00:41:44.851 --> 00:41:45.693
You can get some of that
00:41:45.713 --> 00:41:46.554
from a self-help book,
00:41:46.574 --> 00:41:47.614
but it's not personalized
00:41:47.635 --> 00:41:48.496
in the way that therapy is.
00:41:48.956 --> 00:41:50.038
Read a self-help book,
00:41:50.478 --> 00:41:51.500
not by a right-wing
00:41:51.539 --> 00:41:53.202
masculinity grifter or a
00:41:53.262 --> 00:41:54.623
left-wing masculinity grifter.
00:41:54.983 --> 00:41:56.144
I don't know if those people exist,
00:41:56.184 --> 00:41:56.865
but probably.
00:41:58.427 --> 00:42:00.050
Don't listen to masculinity grifters.
00:42:02.025 --> 00:42:03.306
How much hair you have or
00:42:03.346 --> 00:42:04.746
not or how quickly it grows
00:42:04.887 --> 00:42:06.168
is pretty much genetic.
00:42:06.447 --> 00:42:07.929
Stress can have some impact on it.
00:42:08.108 --> 00:42:09.570
Your diet can have some impact on it.
00:42:09.769 --> 00:42:10.911
It's not that big of a deal.
00:42:11.271 --> 00:42:12.211
Calm the fuck down.
00:42:15.594 --> 00:42:18.175
So yes, doing some work would be great.
00:42:18.496 --> 00:42:19.697
Finding community is great.
00:42:19.737 --> 00:42:20.077
And again,
00:42:20.197 --> 00:42:21.798
that's a late-stage capitalism problem.
00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:23.599
The idea that we can't just
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:25.702
congregate and find community easily,
00:42:25.822 --> 00:42:26.501
accessibly,
00:42:26.621 --> 00:42:29.724
affordably is a problem for everyone.
00:42:30.085 --> 00:42:31.164
Men are affected by...
00:42:32.318 --> 00:42:33.699
things that affect everyone.
00:42:34.018 --> 00:42:35.079
So it's not like a male
00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:36.061
loneliness epidemic.
00:42:36.201 --> 00:42:38.242
It's late stage capitalism is shitty.
00:42:39.023 --> 00:42:40.885
It makes meeting people hard.
00:42:42.005 --> 00:42:44.327
Our modern society, grifters included,
00:42:44.407 --> 00:42:47.090
but just pop culture in
00:42:47.150 --> 00:42:48.271
general has this idea of
00:42:48.311 --> 00:42:50.012
masculinity that is unsustainable.
00:42:50.273 --> 00:42:51.494
Having this idea that men
00:42:51.534 --> 00:42:52.855
don't have feelings.
00:42:52.914 --> 00:42:53.936
Men shouldn't cry.
00:42:53.976 --> 00:42:54.876
There are some feelings that
00:42:54.896 --> 00:42:55.597
are good or bad.
00:42:56.132 --> 00:42:57.012
is bullshit.
00:42:57.072 --> 00:42:58.012
Feelings are neutral.
00:42:58.052 --> 00:42:59.132
They happen to us.
00:42:59.193 --> 00:43:00.414
We experience them.
00:43:00.494 --> 00:43:01.713
They are not gendered.
00:43:01.773 --> 00:43:03.434
They are not good or bad emotions.
00:43:04.476 --> 00:43:05.315
Emotions are neutral.
00:43:05.815 --> 00:43:07.317
What we do in response to
00:43:07.356 --> 00:43:08.476
those emotions could be
00:43:08.536 --> 00:43:09.737
helpful or unhelpful.
00:43:10.358 --> 00:43:12.478
Shouting at your partner, unhelpful.
00:43:12.963 --> 00:43:13.844
Punching a wall.
00:43:14.403 --> 00:43:15.123
Unhelpful.
00:43:15.583 --> 00:43:17.525
Yelling and screaming at your coworkers.
00:43:17.844 --> 00:43:18.525
Unhelpful.
00:43:19.005 --> 00:43:19.885
Going for a walk.
00:43:20.304 --> 00:43:20.844
Helpful.
00:43:21.246 --> 00:43:22.405
Writing your feelings down.
00:43:22.646 --> 00:43:23.146
Helpful.
00:43:23.465 --> 00:43:24.706
Talking to a friend who's
00:43:24.726 --> 00:43:26.365
giving you reasonable
00:43:26.487 --> 00:43:27.847
feedback and listening to
00:43:27.867 --> 00:43:29.547
you and providing safe space for you.
00:43:29.967 --> 00:43:30.487
Helpful.
00:43:31.086 --> 00:43:31.347
Right?
00:43:31.467 --> 00:43:33.608
So, like, emotions are not good or bad.
00:43:33.668 --> 00:43:34.288
They are neutral.
00:43:34.427 --> 00:43:35.208
They happen to us.
00:43:35.427 --> 00:43:36.608
Everyone has them.
00:43:37.668 --> 00:43:39.068
Our brains are wired for them.
00:43:39.708 --> 00:43:39.989
Not us.
00:43:40.416 --> 00:43:43.096
male brains not macho brains
00:43:43.516 --> 00:43:46.117
not seventeen concussions
00:43:46.157 --> 00:43:47.677
because you're doing a
00:43:47.737 --> 00:43:48.697
diving headbutt as your
00:43:48.737 --> 00:43:50.358
finisher brains there's
00:43:50.378 --> 00:43:51.018
another pro wrestling
00:43:51.038 --> 00:43:52.858
reference sorry uh all
00:43:52.898 --> 00:43:54.117
brains all brains have
00:43:54.157 --> 00:43:55.838
emotions they're signals
00:43:56.119 --> 00:43:57.458
that something is going on
00:43:57.498 --> 00:43:58.079
that we should pay
00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:02.219
attention to that's it so
00:44:02.260 --> 00:44:04.539
like yeah some emotional
00:44:04.579 --> 00:44:05.599
intelligence would be great
00:44:05.940 --> 00:44:06.760
some skill building would
00:44:06.780 --> 00:44:08.181
be great some community
00:44:08.201 --> 00:44:09.541
would be great and like
00:44:10.983 --> 00:44:12.523
Therapy would be great.
00:44:14.664 --> 00:44:15.164
Let's see.
00:44:15.684 --> 00:44:16.144
What other?
00:44:18.806 --> 00:44:20.326
Yeah, like less competition.
00:44:20.405 --> 00:44:21.465
And like, I don't know.
00:44:21.545 --> 00:44:23.246
I have competition tied into capitalism.
00:44:24.427 --> 00:44:25.146
I like sports.
00:44:25.286 --> 00:44:25.867
I like winning.
00:44:25.987 --> 00:44:27.086
I like winning board games.
00:44:27.246 --> 00:44:29.387
I like winning trivia games.
00:44:29.487 --> 00:44:30.728
I like winning sports.
00:44:30.947 --> 00:44:31.728
Like, I don't know.
00:44:32.887 --> 00:44:33.949
I think that's environmental.
00:44:34.728 --> 00:44:35.409
I'm confident.
00:44:36.068 --> 00:44:36.849
I'm a hundred percent sure
00:44:36.869 --> 00:44:38.251
that's environmental to how I was raised,
00:44:38.411 --> 00:44:42.675
not like a male or female gendered thing.
00:44:43.235 --> 00:44:44.436
So like, yeah.
00:44:45.871 --> 00:44:46.291
Man,
00:44:46.711 --> 00:44:48.012
and like these are just the people in
00:44:48.052 --> 00:44:48.492
charge.
00:44:49.012 --> 00:44:50.793
So I hate to like bring up
00:44:50.813 --> 00:44:51.675
this topic a lot,
00:44:51.815 --> 00:44:53.335
but like I feel bad
00:44:53.496 --> 00:44:54.856
genuinely for the dudes out
00:44:54.876 --> 00:44:56.317
there struggling to find
00:44:56.356 --> 00:44:58.838
friends or to date when
00:44:58.858 --> 00:45:01.661
they're wanting to date who
00:45:02.340 --> 00:45:03.621
aren't misogynistic little
00:45:03.661 --> 00:45:05.342
pricks and aren't up their
00:45:05.402 --> 00:45:08.344
own ass and aren't, you know,
00:45:08.724 --> 00:45:09.704
shitty humans.
00:45:10.365 --> 00:45:11.586
And they get pulled into
00:45:11.606 --> 00:45:12.626
this stuff thinking it will
00:45:12.646 --> 00:45:14.728
be helpful because the con
00:45:14.748 --> 00:45:15.489
men are selling them.
00:45:16.018 --> 00:45:17.179
that it will be helpful and
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:18.079
then they become worse
00:45:18.099 --> 00:45:19.018
versions of themselves
00:45:19.059 --> 00:45:19.539
because they've been
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:20.719
listening to shitty content.
00:45:22.621 --> 00:45:24.061
And then like, you know,
00:45:24.742 --> 00:45:26.262
we don't have enough social
00:45:26.483 --> 00:45:27.663
safety nets in place to
00:45:27.702 --> 00:45:29.443
keep people like that from
00:45:29.483 --> 00:45:31.945
running the government apparently.
00:45:32.025 --> 00:45:34.706
So the grift is good, you know,
00:45:38.068 --> 00:45:40.389
I guess that's, that's somewhat evident.
00:45:41.889 --> 00:45:42.110
Um,
00:45:43.918 --> 00:45:45.619
I'm recording on a voting day in Wisconsin,
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:49.780
so I can't be like, go vote.
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:51.221
Or the woman in the race.
00:45:53.001 --> 00:45:54.742
No, so yeah,
00:45:54.822 --> 00:45:56.141
I guess we'll just leave it there.
00:45:57.161 --> 00:46:00.422
Don't listen to masculinity grifters.
00:46:00.963 --> 00:46:02.804
The issues that men face are
00:46:03.023 --> 00:46:04.284
societal issues in general
00:46:04.324 --> 00:46:05.144
that are almost all
00:46:05.204 --> 00:46:09.505
explained by late-stage capitalism.
00:46:09.565 --> 00:46:10.365
Fuck capitalism.
00:46:11.143 --> 00:46:13.385
Fuck Joe Rogan, Donald Trump, Elon Musk,
00:46:13.445 --> 00:46:14.126
Jordan Peterson.
00:46:15.007 --> 00:46:16.068
Anybody else I forgot to mention.
00:46:16.628 --> 00:46:17.811
Fucking Pat McAfee too.
00:46:19.251 --> 00:46:19.992
And Vince McMahon.
00:46:20.472 --> 00:46:21.134
And Dana White.
00:46:22.798 --> 00:46:23.440
If you want to hear me
00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:25.742
complain about rich white assholes,
00:46:26.023 --> 00:46:26.963
I have a little series on
00:46:26.983 --> 00:46:31.028
YouTube called Sad Rich White Men.
00:46:31.128 --> 00:46:31.909
If you want to hear me talk
00:46:31.929 --> 00:46:32.791
to other mental health
00:46:32.811 --> 00:46:33.831
professionals and not just
00:46:33.851 --> 00:46:34.913
complain about politics,
00:46:35.253 --> 00:46:37.976
that's coming up next week and following.
00:46:38.137 --> 00:46:39.478
I am back on board.
00:46:39.978 --> 00:46:42.240
Everyone in my household, knock on wood,
00:46:42.362 --> 00:46:43.623
is healthy and well.
00:46:43.956 --> 00:46:45.277
My schedule has normalized a
00:46:45.318 --> 00:46:46.259
bit where I have been
00:46:46.318 --> 00:46:48.222
scheduling guests for the podcast.
00:46:48.641 --> 00:46:49.202
And I will tell you,
00:46:49.443 --> 00:46:50.925
having one episode recorded already,
00:46:51.365 --> 00:46:52.447
super grounding for me.
00:46:52.728 --> 00:46:54.028
Whereas these solo episodes,
00:46:54.110 --> 00:46:55.711
I just sort of lose my mind
00:46:56.893 --> 00:46:58.034
stating how crazy things
00:46:58.135 --> 00:46:59.597
are and not really feeling
00:46:59.637 --> 00:47:00.378
any better about it.
00:47:03.159 --> 00:47:04.980
We heal in community, everybody.
00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:06.740
Take care of yourself.
00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:08.121
Take care of somebody else.
00:47:08.621 --> 00:47:09.402
Be back next week with
00:47:09.422 --> 00:47:11.983
another new episode with a guest.
00:47:12.503 --> 00:47:13.585
Hooray.
00:47:13.965 --> 00:47:14.304
Peace out.