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Your Therapist Needs Therapy 143 - Sexual Ethics of the Crumbling Empire

Jeremy Schumacher

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This week Jeremy catches up on a sex scandal! And a viral moment from a pastor? But, both stories highlight different aspects of the control culture present both in this authoritarian regime and in high control religions. Jeremy discusses the sex scandal of Kristi Noem and her husband, along with the misogynistic ramblings of podcast pastors. It’s not great, but a microcosm of where we are as a country. Cheers to the crumble!

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Welcome to another edition of Your

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Therapist Needs Therapy,

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the podcast where your friendly

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neighborhood therapist, me,

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Jeremy Schumacher,

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licensed marriage and family therapist,

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talks about slowly deteriorating mental

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health as the American empire slowly

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crumbles.

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That's not really what the podcast is

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about.

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Generally,

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I talk about mental health with other

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mental health professionals.

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But sometimes,

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sometimes we got to check in and see

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what's going on in the wide world of

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America, crumbling empire,

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stupid MAGA leader people.

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It is a silly time to be alive,

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and also life is wonderful and beautiful.

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And we're going to check in and see

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what MAGA is losing their mind about while

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gas prices continue to climb.

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Over four dollars here in the Midwest,

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projected to be over six dollars not that

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long from now.

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Should be a good time if there ever

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was.

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a debate about whether or not people

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should have voted for Donald Trump.

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There wasn't, right?

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Like the answer was no,

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but maybe we're falling backwards into

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getting off of oil,

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except we also cut all funding for wind

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and nuclear and solar.

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So again, no real plan, blah, blah, blah,

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blah, blah.

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This administration is incredibly harmful

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out of petty spite.

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But that's not what we're going to talk

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about today.

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We're not even going to get into the

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sexual ethics of having a pedophile in

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charge of things.

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We're going to get into specifically what

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what some mega folks who have fallen out

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of favor is happening.

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And right.

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This sort of always happens with empire.

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And if you studied sort of any of

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the historical precedent of fascism.

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There's unending loyalty tests.

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And one of the reasons you don't give

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into fascism is because you can never

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please a fascist.

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If somebody requires loyalty and their

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only unifying sort of ethos is there must

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be a bad guy,

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eventually they're gonna turn on you.

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And so we have a recent news story

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of Kristi Noem

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who formerly was in charge of DHS,

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Department of Homeland Security,

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even though she's woefully unqualified for

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that.

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Governor of one of the Dakotas before

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that, South Dakota, North Dakota.

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I don't remember.

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They're interchangeable.

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Dakotans,

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drop down in the comments and argue with

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me.

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You won't convince me I'm wrong.

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I went to a school with a bunch

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of Dakotans and I couldn't tell you which

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one they were ever from.

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States are a silly thing.

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Land ownership is a silly thing.

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That's not what we're talking about today.

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We're talking about Kristi Noem.

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Garbage human being, right?

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We know she shot her dog because she's

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mad at it.

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She struggled to train it,

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and so she decided it should die.

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And again,

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if anyone's going to get put into a

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fascist position in a government where

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that department is going to oversee

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murdering innocent civilians,

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I guess you want someone like Kristi Noem.

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And so she sort of served her purpose.

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The Trump regime seems to sort of be

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moving people around before they can

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testify before Congress,

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although the Supreme Court maybe just

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today decided that Congress can't subpoena

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people.

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So again, it's all crumbling.

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Part of the reason I don't want to

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do a news podcast,

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even though there's news to make us crazy

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every week,

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and I could make things about mental

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health if I really pushed it,

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is because there's so many things going

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on,

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and I don't really think it's helpful for

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us to track everything all the time.

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I say that as a middle-aged ADHD-er who

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probably has the brain capacity to do that

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to some degree.

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I just think it is damaging to our

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mental health.

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But every once in a while,

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I check in and see what's going on.

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So Kristi Noem has been deposed.

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Not deposed.

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What's the word I'm looking for?

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Let go?

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She got fired.

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She got moved to be like...

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I don't know,

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protector of the shield of the core of

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America or some made up thing.

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Um,

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they're just like veering dangerously

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close to explicit like neo-Nazi hate

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groups, like, uh,

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terrorist groups like covenant sword in

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the arm of the Lord.

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Like we're, we're right there.

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That group already exists or existed in

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the past.

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Um,

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So Gnome's gone,

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and in sort of her disgrace and her

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fall from favor, it came out that...

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It didn't come out then.

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She's been having a very open,

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very public affair for a while.

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And her affair partner seems to also be

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a garbage person who didn't really deserve

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to be in a position of power other

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than he was having an affair with Christy

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Gnome, allegedly.

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And...

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And it came out that Kristi Noem's

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husband, who she's still married to,

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has a bimbofication fetish.

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For those of you who are unaware of

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the various kinks that are out in the

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world, this was fairly innocuous.

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I don't know.

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The bimbo fetish is sort of based on

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the idea of really overdone sex.

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facial features, particularly the lips,

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potentially cheekbones,

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giant fake breasts,

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giant fake butt implants,

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and just like anything that could be a

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sort of feminine feature gets way, way,

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way,

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way overrepresented and like blown out of

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proportions.

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Like if, well,

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I don't want to say that.

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I was going to say if Barbie was

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a real person,

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because we know Barbie's dimensions aren't

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realistic, but it's more than that.

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It really is just sort of like any

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of the secondary sexual traits that would

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be ascribed to being feminine,

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way overdone.

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Kristi Noem has this too, right?

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Like that's all that Mar-a-Lago face is,

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is like,

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a bimbofication fetish.

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Now, Kristi Noem's husband,

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I don't even know his name, Doug, maybe,

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something like that,

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a white guy from one of the Dakotas.

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These characters are fairly

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interchangeable at this part in history.

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the thing that people were upset about and

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the quote unquote scandal that this was is

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because Doug is a man.

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And so a bimbofication fetish for a dude

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is again, big fake tits, uh,

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hair and makeup wig over exaggerated lips.

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Um,

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And he paid escort sex workers.

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We're not sure who he was working with.

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It seems like some form of sex workers

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to dress him up like this and then

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make fun of and or degrade him.

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As a marriage and family therapist,

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I work with a lot of different sexual

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kinks all the time.

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I will say probably the one that my

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dudes that I've worked with over the years

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have struggled with the most,

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like the one that brought what I would

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consider an odd amount of shame,

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and I'm not judging them.

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With so much love in my heart,

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I'm not sure why this was such a

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struggle for so many people,

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is cross-dressing.

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Pretty common kink.

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Fairly innocuous.

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Again...

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playing dress up as an adult for sexual

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pleasure who cares um it's not harming

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anyone done consensually again most of the

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people i've worked with over the years

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dress up for themselves and there may or

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may not be a sexual component to it

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and they post in like cross-dressing

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forums

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Pretty innocuous.

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Bimbofication, again,

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part of the thing that I think is

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maybe unhelpful about the bimbo fetish is

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it is sort of the idea of all

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these overly hyper-sexualized traits.

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And I think there's the idea that a

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bimbo is dumb and only good for sex.

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And so there's some misogyny in there.

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The component, again,

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for Gnome's husband being like,

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into it and the humiliation factor again

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it would not shock me this is pure

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hypothesis from somebody who works with

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people who are having some of these sexual

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dynamics sometimes that christy noam

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getting all the plastic surgery she got

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and then cheating on her husband may have

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led to this fetish like again sometimes

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people sexualize and fetishize things that

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happen to them in real life as a

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way to cope as a way to process

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as a way to sort of rewire the

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brain around that thing

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And so, I don't know.

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It's not bad or wrong.

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Again,

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consenting adults can do what they want.

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Sex work should be legal.

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And for him to have consenting adults do

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this kink and act out this fetish with

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him is fine.

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Why the internet lost their mind over it,

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I have no idea.

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I am talking about this because, again,

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the hypocrisy of the MAGA movement as a

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quote unquote right wing,

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quote unquote Christian movement is

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staggering.

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Again,

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like if you're approaching Christianity in

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any sort of evangelical way,

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then the marriage is supposed to be not

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full of adultery.

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So I don't know.

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Kristi Noem's in the wrong there.

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Donald Trump's in the wrong there.

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Pretty much everybody except for Mike

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Johnson that I can think of in the

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government has had an affair.

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Even cabinet members.

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Linda McMahon's a cabinet member.

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Getting her husband,

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Vincent Kennedy McMahon's sexual

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trafficking lawsuit dismissed.

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It's just corruption.

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It's very hard to talk about current

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events because there's just so many things

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going on.

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Lots of corruption.

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But anyway,

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everyone was sort of freaking out about

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this stuff.

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And again, it's messy.

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It's a political scandal.

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Is it going to get headlines?

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Yeah.

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The affair seemed to be a fairly open

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secret.

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So just because it's like a fun out

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there.

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And it's not, right?

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Like for people who all of the sex

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educators that I've worked with in the

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past, people who I follow online,

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all talks about how this is not like,

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this is a pretty common thing.

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Right.

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It's it's fairly common to be into some

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form of cross-dressing,

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be into some sort of power dynamic around

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that where you're made to cross-dress or

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or you're struggling.

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You're you're into it,

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but you're uncomfortable with it.

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So there needs to be that power dynamic

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where you're made to do it like

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degradation and stuff like that is not

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that uncommon.

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Again,

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I would I would say between consenting

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adults.

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Cool.

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Have fun, y'all.

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The fair part seems not contenting and

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seems unethical, right?

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And so the hypocrisy of people who want

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to demonize trans rights,

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who want to take away protections for the

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LGBTQ plus community to be living sort of

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this life,

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it's more rules for the not for me.

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And it's sort of a standard Republican

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practice.

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But I do think it's still useful to

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call out the hypocrisy.

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Again, not that like,

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it seems to matter.

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Everyone wants to cry morality about

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everything in the Republican Party when,

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what's her name,

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Lauren Boebert's given handies in a

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theater and also has a kid who's underage

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who's getting pregnant.

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They're hypocrites, of course,

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because the church is useful as a shield

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against that hypocrisy.

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You get to claim moral high ground while

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not acting in any sort of moral or

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ethical way.

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So that's not a huge surprise.

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The other seemingly unrelated story that I

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wanted to talk about is two pastors from

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the New Apostolic Reform.

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That is Mike Johnson and Pete Hegseth sort

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of filtering out from the Doug Wilson

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Church up in Moscow, Idaho.

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I've talked about that before.

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There's a bunch of neo-Nazis up there too.

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I don't think those things are unrelated.

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And yeah,

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they went viral a little bit just because

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it is...

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the clip that got clips is women need

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to shut up said by a male pastor

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and talking about how God wants women to

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shut up.

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It's in the Bible that women should shut

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up and that they don't get to be

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in authority positions, particularly, uh,

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in government.

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They shouldn't be voting because that's a

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position of authority and certainly not in

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the home.

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It's just like patriarchy and misogyny.

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Again,

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the Bible was written by patriarchal

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rulers and misogynistic men.

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That's not a mystery here.

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And so, sure,

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you can find places in the Bible where

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it says that.

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Jesus also tells the disciples to sit

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down, shut up, and listen to the women.

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So, you know,

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the Bible pretty much says whatever you

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want it to say,

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because it is not a historical document.

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It is fanfic for a religion.

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I mean, all religious scripture is fanfic,

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right?

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Like, what are we doing?

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We shouldn't be having this conversation

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at high level.

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political conversations at the same time

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because these people shouldn't be put in

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charge of anything.

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Hegseth, by the way,

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excluded Catholics from like the Easter

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prayer breakfast thing.

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Because again,

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you can't have religious extremists in

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these positions of power without their

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religion getting them in the way.

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These people would not go to the same

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church

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and worship in the same way and follow

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the same rules and restrictions of their

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religion.

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And yet they all want to put their

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religion as number one,

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pretending that Christianity is only one

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religion is flawed.

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And that's never going to pan out.

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And again,

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the thing with fascism is there always has

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to be an enemy.

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So at some point,

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these people are going to be the enemy.

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Sort of surprised Hegseth has made it this

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far.

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He seems useful in

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doing the Fox News talking points where he

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just shouts unrelated things like an idiot

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and also committing war crimes.

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So, you know,

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that's sort of where we're at.

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But yes,

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these pastors said women needed to shut up

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and that was biblical and godly.

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And also then let's take away the right

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to vote.

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Now, I've seen these pastors.

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What are their names?

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I have it somewhere.

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I wrote it down.

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Look at me taking notes.

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Let's see.

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Joel Webben and Wesley Todd.

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They are part of some sort of...

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It's called NXR, New Christian Right.

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But it's the New Apostolic Reform.

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It's sort of the branch of denomination

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church they're from.

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But that's like their podcast platform.

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It's on Rumble,

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where all the neo-Nazis also go.

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And right-wingers who can't get platformed

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elsewhere, I guess.

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But again, so...

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How are these things connected, right?

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You sort of have this,

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I would say run of the mill if

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it weren't for the hypocrisy, sex scandal,

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not even your elected official having a

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weird kink,

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but also because of elected officials

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having very open affair,

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it sort of becomes news.

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I don't wanna say it's everyone's

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business, it's not, consenting adults,

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do what you want.

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But because of the position's power and

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because it's gonna grab some headlines,

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here we are.

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And then women need to shut up, right?

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not a stance i take women should be

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put in charge of everything and the world

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would be a better place the is my

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stance the idea uh that these things are

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both about control right and so why is

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this such a big deal in mega why

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is it such a big deal in christianity

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christianity has always weirdly been

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interested in sex

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Because sex is something that is important

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for control.

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And if you look at organized religion as

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the organizing principle of organized

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religion is in-group, out-group.

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There needs to be an in-group.

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There needs to be an out-group.

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And if you need to control your in-group,

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sex is a powerful way to do that.

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Why?

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Because sex is supernatural and awesome.

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I see you ace folks.

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So we won't say everybody likes sex,

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but most people like sex and most people

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enjoy it.

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Sex does a lot of interesting things to

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our brain and our body specifically

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releases a lot of feel good drugs all

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in one go.

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That's an orgasm.

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And it,

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It does a lot of fun things for

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our brain.

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Our brain really likes it.

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Now,

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if you're feeling that good in your body

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and you're feeling good with a partner,

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also releases a bunch of hormones and

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pheromones to feel connected to that

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person that we experienced that orgasm

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with.

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And so that connection between the people

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becomes very important and our connection

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and our pleasure based on our body become

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very important.

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And if we can just feel good in

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our own bodies and feel connected to other

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people because of sex,

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what role does the church have?

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It doesn't.

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right it doesn't if if what church offers

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us is community and i will say that's

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pretty much the only thing i ever give

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organized religion credit for is being

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able to offer community and you can get

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that without needing to go to church

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what's the point right if you can feel

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good not because of some promised eternal

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afterlife or because they turned the heat

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up too hot in the church so you

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felt some feelings while the live band

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played

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uh but instead in your own body you

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don't you don't need that from church you

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don't need community from church you can

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do that yourself with another consenting

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adult and so the church wants to limit

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that which means you know

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Limiting sex as only okay after marriage

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with your partner and also then like

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traumatizing your brain well before you

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start having sex.

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So even when you are married and doing

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it, quote unquote, the correct way,

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you still have a bunch of shame and

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guilt.

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That's what I see in my office on

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a weekly basis, right?

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that purity culture is harmful and also

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rules for thee, not for me.

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We have all these priests,

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all these pastors,

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every major religion has a sex scandal

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within the past year.

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And so there are all these things going

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on all the time where it's like,

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Regular people are being controlled to

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feel bad for this thing that's very

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natural to them.

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If you say you should feel guilty and

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shameful about your natural sexual

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desires, well,

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those things are always going on.

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They're natural.

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They're healthy.

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And if we demonize them,

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then you have guilt and shame.

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If you have guilt and shame,

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you feel bad.

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If you feel bad,

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you need to feel better.

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If you need to feel better,

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the church can sell you a savior.

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And so if your main business model is

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telling people they need to be,

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if your main business model is selling a

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savior,

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you need to convince people they need to

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be saved.

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And so you demonize something that's

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always going to happen.

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That's natural and healthy,

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just sexual desire.

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And you put a bunch of control mechanisms

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around that, right?

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It's like,

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terrible in its it's unethical immorality

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but it's super effective it's a neat tidy

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little way to control people just on this

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one thing and obviously the church tries

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to control more than just sex but that

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is a big one and so organized religion

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existing as social control

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then sex becomes a really good mechanism

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for getting out of the church potentially.

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And so we need to control it for

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that.

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And then we also can make it feel

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bad when it's supposed to feel good and

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control people that way.

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Right.

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Um, you could, you know, limit people's,

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you know, and like fascism, right.

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We have authoritarianism,

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like hundreds of thousands of people have

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died.

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This Trump administration,

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millions will die because of just like

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cutting us aid.

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Um,

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But yeah,

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like we've got an ongoing war and lots

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of people have died.

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There are certain things that you can't

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take away that would work for social

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manipulation like food and water and

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shelter.

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And we're doing that to black and brown

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people here in America and in other

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countries.

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which is a problem, but people are dying.

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And so you can't keep them in the

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church.

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You can't get tax-free money from them in

00:20:46.417 --> 00:20:47.858
the church if you're killing them all.

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Sex is one of those things that is

00:20:50.981 --> 00:20:52.041
natural, is healthy,

00:20:52.142 --> 00:20:53.063
is really good for people,

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but people won't die without it, right?

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And so they will find a way to

00:20:58.165 --> 00:20:58.686
pursue it.

00:20:58.747 --> 00:20:59.807
They will get it elsewhere,

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but also not going to die.

00:21:01.469 --> 00:21:02.108
It's not lethal.

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And so it serves as like a nice

00:21:06.172 --> 00:21:07.553
non-kinky leash, right?

00:21:09.468 --> 00:21:10.989
for the church to try and control people

00:21:11.048 --> 00:21:12.150
in.

00:21:12.170 --> 00:21:13.590
That was a joke for the kinksters out

00:21:13.611 --> 00:21:13.770
there.

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They'll appreciate it if you didn't

00:21:15.011 --> 00:21:15.491
understand it.

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That's all right.

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And so again,

00:21:20.335 --> 00:21:23.978
it's okay for most of the women and

00:21:23.998 --> 00:21:26.159
the Republican Party who are high enough

00:21:26.239 --> 00:21:29.000
officials to get plastic surgery and have

00:21:29.040 --> 00:21:31.222
this sort of bimbofication of

00:21:32.344 --> 00:21:33.805
which i can't say is a fetish or

00:21:33.865 --> 00:21:35.185
not i'm not sure it's a kink but

00:21:35.385 --> 00:21:37.287
again it's called mar-a-lago face it's

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it's a thing that they're all sort of

00:21:39.528 --> 00:21:41.329
going for because someone thinks it's

00:21:41.430 --> 00:21:44.692
attractive yuck um

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Who's the other really common one?

00:21:48.375 --> 00:21:50.276
There's one of the Trumps, Laura.

00:21:50.435 --> 00:21:51.737
Laura, I don't know what her name is.

00:21:51.817 --> 00:21:53.818
Laura Loomer is the other sort of classic

00:21:53.838 --> 00:21:54.219
example.

00:21:54.598 --> 00:21:55.400
Caroline Leavitt.

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I think, what's her name?

00:21:57.521 --> 00:21:59.143
The AG who just got let go.

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Pam Bondi, awful human being.

00:22:02.184 --> 00:22:03.445
Defender of pedophiles.

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I think also she has...

00:22:08.211 --> 00:22:09.731
she looks like she got at least a

00:22:09.791 --> 00:22:10.271
nose job,

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but like went the almost like old way.

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Like, I don't know.

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I'm going to say like Michael Jackson got

00:22:15.194 --> 00:22:16.275
a lot of work done now.

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Also I'm autistic and I have face

00:22:17.736 --> 00:22:18.135
blindness.

00:22:18.155 --> 00:22:20.457
So this stuff is not my, my forte.

00:22:20.537 --> 00:22:22.057
I don't really care what people look like.

00:22:22.077 --> 00:22:24.199
I think everyone is beautiful and lovely

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and probably doesn't need plastic surgery

00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:27.780
unless they want plastic surgery for some

00:22:27.820 --> 00:22:29.761
reason, not opposed to it, but like,

00:22:29.922 --> 00:22:30.722
again, to,

00:22:30.903 --> 00:22:34.204
to do some of these things and then

00:22:34.265 --> 00:22:36.486
cry foul about, um,

00:22:39.891 --> 00:22:42.432
trans people seeking gender-affirming care

00:22:42.471 --> 00:22:45.413
when y'all are getting hair plugs and

00:22:45.534 --> 00:22:48.094
breast implants and lip injections and all

00:22:48.134 --> 00:22:48.634
those things.

00:22:48.914 --> 00:22:50.115
All that stuff's gender-affirming care.

00:22:50.494 --> 00:22:51.435
Elon Musk has had a bunch of

00:22:51.476 --> 00:22:52.155
gender-affirming care.

00:22:52.355 --> 00:22:53.395
Donald Trump has had a bunch of

00:22:53.415 --> 00:22:54.237
gender-affirming care.

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Gender as a social concept can be

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supported in all of these things.

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If you're modifying your body to make

00:23:01.598 --> 00:23:02.480
yourself feel better,

00:23:02.759 --> 00:23:03.700
it's gender-affirming care.

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Right?

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And so...

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Yeah, like this all comes back to control.

00:23:12.647 --> 00:23:14.829
Kristi Noem's husband is a bad guy because

00:23:14.869 --> 00:23:17.132
he's doing a kink that isn't masculine.

00:23:17.211 --> 00:23:17.951
His fetish,

00:23:17.971 --> 00:23:20.233
his play goes against gender norms and

00:23:20.253 --> 00:23:22.035
that goes against the Republican narrative

00:23:22.075 --> 00:23:23.375
that like, first of all,

00:23:23.395 --> 00:23:24.836
there's only two genders, which is false,

00:23:25.157 --> 00:23:26.739
easily provably false.

00:23:27.598 --> 00:23:28.460
There's only two sexes,

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also easily provably false.

00:23:30.260 --> 00:23:32.002
They conflate gender and sex all the time.

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I just don't think they're clever enough

00:23:33.503 --> 00:23:35.945
to understand any sort of nuance and or

00:23:35.965 --> 00:23:37.366
they're arguing in bad faith.

00:23:38.067 --> 00:23:40.169
bit of both i would say um so

00:23:40.189 --> 00:23:42.269
there's but like so we have this pastor

00:23:42.289 --> 00:23:43.770
who's saying women need to shut up that's

00:23:43.810 --> 00:23:45.913
very obvious sense of control and then you

00:23:45.952 --> 00:23:47.493
have this messiness with christy noam

00:23:47.534 --> 00:23:49.895
where again like it's a dude who's who's

00:23:49.955 --> 00:23:52.136
breaking the quote-unquote social contract

00:23:52.538 --> 00:23:54.959
around gender norms but also his partner

00:23:55.039 --> 00:23:56.661
is breaking the quote-unquote social

00:23:56.701 --> 00:23:57.701
contract around what

00:23:58.701 --> 00:24:00.804
marriage is supposed to be from a

00:24:00.943 --> 00:24:02.605
christian perspective again like

00:24:02.766 --> 00:24:04.768
consenting adults do what you want but

00:24:04.827 --> 00:24:07.609
like that that christian sort of idea of

00:24:07.690 --> 00:24:11.252
purity culture monogamy as the only like

00:24:11.333 --> 00:24:15.336
ethical sort of way to be married but

00:24:15.356 --> 00:24:16.877
all the headlines weren't about the affair

00:24:16.897 --> 00:24:19.381
they were all about the fetish so again

00:24:19.540 --> 00:24:19.701
it's

00:24:21.416 --> 00:24:22.258
It's messy.

00:24:22.458 --> 00:24:23.397
It's not surprising.

00:24:23.417 --> 00:24:25.058
This is not like a new thing.

00:24:25.098 --> 00:24:25.400
But again,

00:24:25.460 --> 00:24:26.960
I think it's really easy to look at

00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:28.761
like Hegseth talking about doing war

00:24:28.801 --> 00:24:31.002
crimes and Trump, you know,

00:24:31.042 --> 00:24:33.845
manipulating the oil prices for insider

00:24:33.865 --> 00:24:36.566
trading purposes and just like corruption.

00:24:36.586 --> 00:24:38.468
Trump's in the Epstein files, yada, yada,

00:24:38.488 --> 00:24:38.688
yada.

00:24:38.708 --> 00:24:39.909
We're not even talking about that anymore.

00:24:40.328 --> 00:24:40.489
Right.

00:24:40.888 --> 00:24:46.231
But these smaller examples I think are

00:24:46.251 --> 00:24:47.972
really important to highlight from time to

00:24:48.013 --> 00:24:50.315
time because this is what is still going

00:24:50.414 --> 00:24:50.575
on.

00:24:51.395 --> 00:24:53.537
The people who listen to Rumble are the

00:24:53.557 --> 00:24:54.857
people who used to listen to

00:24:56.752 --> 00:24:57.574
Rush Limbaugh,

00:24:58.315 --> 00:25:01.436
the people who put Charlie Kirk bumper

00:25:01.477 --> 00:25:03.118
stickers on their car and think they're

00:25:03.159 --> 00:25:06.040
cool instead of being so embarrassing,

00:25:06.501 --> 00:25:09.263
are listening to these rumble things.

00:25:09.463 --> 00:25:10.585
And again,

00:25:10.644 --> 00:25:13.307
they're being told misogyny is not only

00:25:13.367 --> 00:25:14.729
cool and okay,

00:25:14.788 --> 00:25:16.570
but actually God wants you to do that.

00:25:17.050 --> 00:25:17.891
And what happens then?

00:25:17.951 --> 00:25:19.211
You have spousal abuse.

00:25:19.231 --> 00:25:22.513
You have people who are harming women,

00:25:22.594 --> 00:25:25.454
who are treating women as objects,

00:25:25.494 --> 00:25:27.635
who are doing these things

00:25:27.796 --> 00:25:30.998
non-consensually because the Bible never

00:25:31.038 --> 00:25:32.097
talks about consent.

00:25:33.459 --> 00:25:37.080
A lot of differentiation on when it is

00:25:37.161 --> 00:25:38.342
okay to beat your slave and when it

00:25:38.422 --> 00:25:39.041
isn't okay,

00:25:39.082 --> 00:25:40.863
but we skipped the topic of consent.

00:25:41.848 --> 00:25:46.029
And so these rules are all about control,

00:25:46.609 --> 00:25:48.671
the rules around purity culture,

00:25:48.691 --> 00:25:50.971
the rules around all these things about

00:25:50.991 --> 00:25:51.412
control.

00:25:51.531 --> 00:25:53.271
And when you're setting the rules about

00:25:53.311 --> 00:25:55.373
control, what is implied,

00:25:55.413 --> 00:25:56.752
but isn't outright stated,

00:25:56.792 --> 00:25:58.153
but what these examples are really good

00:25:58.173 --> 00:26:00.974
examples of is that control only flows

00:26:01.015 --> 00:26:01.434
down.

00:26:01.494 --> 00:26:03.095
So for the people in power,

00:26:03.355 --> 00:26:05.155
they're not beholden to those same rules.

00:26:05.496 --> 00:26:07.498
rules for the not for me is that

00:26:07.538 --> 00:26:09.319
really good summary of sort of the

00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:13.603
republican idea but the the rules don't

00:26:13.643 --> 00:26:15.244
apply to them so christy noem has the

00:26:15.285 --> 00:26:17.046
power her husband's the bad guy even

00:26:17.066 --> 00:26:19.208
though she's doing the same things as far

00:26:19.228 --> 00:26:23.152
as the bimbofication goes and like i i

00:26:24.144 --> 00:26:25.423
She's not, I guess.

00:26:25.523 --> 00:26:26.865
I can see the argument that getting

00:26:26.884 --> 00:26:28.144
plastic surgery isn't the same thing as

00:26:28.164 --> 00:26:28.884
bimbofication.

00:26:29.105 --> 00:26:29.805
I understand that.

00:26:29.845 --> 00:26:30.805
There is nuance there.

00:26:30.865 --> 00:26:32.226
One of those things is for sexual

00:26:32.266 --> 00:26:34.766
gratification as part of a fetish or part

00:26:34.806 --> 00:26:35.486
of kink play.

00:26:35.905 --> 00:26:37.826
But it's related.

00:26:37.866 --> 00:26:39.707
There's almost no way.

00:26:39.767 --> 00:26:40.826
They're not my clients.

00:26:40.886 --> 00:26:41.867
I can't say for sure.

00:26:41.907 --> 00:26:43.087
And if they were my clients,

00:26:43.107 --> 00:26:44.708
they'd be protected by HIPAA.

00:26:45.107 --> 00:26:46.989
There's no way those things aren't

00:26:47.128 --> 00:26:47.769
related.

00:26:47.788 --> 00:26:49.009
Yeah.

00:26:50.790 --> 00:26:52.271
So anyway, doing the same thing,

00:26:52.332 --> 00:26:53.853
but also doing something that goes against

00:26:53.952 --> 00:26:56.753
the, the quote unquote public image of,

00:26:56.953 --> 00:26:58.174
I keep doing quote unquote,

00:26:58.214 --> 00:26:59.875
that's my version of allegedly right.

00:27:00.955 --> 00:27:02.257
Going against the,

00:27:02.277 --> 00:27:05.458
the morals of public performance of

00:27:05.499 --> 00:27:06.919
Christianity.

00:27:07.019 --> 00:27:10.300
And so, yeah, it,

00:27:12.461 --> 00:27:13.541
It's floundering.

00:27:13.682 --> 00:27:15.282
Again, they're getting wild.

00:27:15.383 --> 00:27:16.743
These are messy things.

00:27:16.784 --> 00:27:17.984
They're silly things.

00:27:18.045 --> 00:27:19.685
We have corruption out in the open.

00:27:19.705 --> 00:27:21.188
We have war crimes out in the open.

00:27:21.208 --> 00:27:22.469
We have market manipulation.

00:27:22.509 --> 00:27:23.890
We have affairs out in the open.

00:27:24.349 --> 00:27:26.652
We have pedophiles out in the open.

00:27:26.672 --> 00:27:28.792
We have all these things because the

00:27:28.853 --> 00:27:30.615
empire is crumbling.

00:27:31.853 --> 00:27:33.694
and I've talked about the crumble being a

00:27:33.734 --> 00:27:35.936
lot slower and more tedious process than a

00:27:36.017 --> 00:27:36.497
collapse,

00:27:36.517 --> 00:27:37.317
which is what I think a lot of

00:27:37.337 --> 00:27:38.117
people thought would happen.

00:27:38.137 --> 00:27:40.339
Like it's broken, it's falling apart.

00:27:40.980 --> 00:27:42.541
And, uh, you know,

00:27:42.561 --> 00:27:43.843
we're not to the cool part yet where

00:27:43.883 --> 00:27:44.324
we can like,

00:27:44.503 --> 00:27:46.045
I'll be on solar energy and everyone can

00:27:46.085 --> 00:27:47.786
have food and clothing and housing,

00:27:48.967 --> 00:27:51.730
which is again, very doable.

00:27:51.869 --> 00:27:53.891
We're just not doing it because I don't

00:27:53.911 --> 00:27:55.333
know if we keep putting the wrong people

00:27:55.353 --> 00:27:55.712
in charge.

00:27:56.713 --> 00:27:56.834
Um,

00:27:57.792 --> 00:28:00.655
But so the messiness from the church,

00:28:00.715 --> 00:28:03.818
from the administration eating itself,

00:28:03.838 --> 00:28:04.759
that's not a surprise.

00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:07.741
That was always going to happen.

00:28:07.843 --> 00:28:09.243
And so like Pam Bondi is a good

00:28:09.284 --> 00:28:09.604
example.

00:28:09.644 --> 00:28:13.688
Again, women who support patriarchy,

00:28:14.828 --> 00:28:17.332
women who take on roles within the

00:28:17.372 --> 00:28:19.393
patriarchy are always going to get thrown

00:28:19.433 --> 00:28:20.755
under the bus, right?

00:28:20.775 --> 00:28:20.875
Yeah.

00:28:21.723 --> 00:28:22.825
Stephen Miller is still employed.

00:28:22.884 --> 00:28:24.486
Pete Hegseth hasn't lost his job yet.

00:28:24.567 --> 00:28:27.489
Tom Homan, who we know took a bribe,

00:28:27.888 --> 00:28:29.611
got put in charge of DHS after Kristi

00:28:29.631 --> 00:28:30.332
Noem got let go.

00:28:30.692 --> 00:28:31.192
So again,

00:28:31.291 --> 00:28:33.054
these women who want to be on sort

00:28:33.094 --> 00:28:35.276
of the like, see, they're not misogynist,

00:28:35.316 --> 00:28:36.757
see, they're not bad guys,

00:28:37.817 --> 00:28:39.118
are always going to be the ones to

00:28:39.138 --> 00:28:40.339
first fall because they are bad guys.

00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:41.280
They are misogynistic.

00:28:41.300 --> 00:28:42.481
They're going to get rid of the women

00:28:42.642 --> 00:28:44.824
first because that is convenient for them

00:28:44.923 --> 00:28:46.005
and sticks to their narrative.

00:28:47.426 --> 00:28:49.048
In the same way that these pastors are

00:28:49.068 --> 00:28:50.750
getting more and more extreme because the

00:28:50.810 --> 00:28:52.452
church's monopoly on the flow of

00:28:52.512 --> 00:28:54.655
information is gone.

00:28:54.695 --> 00:28:54.895
I mean,

00:28:54.915 --> 00:28:57.138
the internet exists and most people have

00:28:57.199 --> 00:28:57.940
access to it.

00:28:58.059 --> 00:29:00.823
And so you can't enforce these things

00:29:00.863 --> 00:29:04.186
because you can find about your pastor's

00:29:04.307 --> 00:29:05.288
past discretions.

00:29:05.308 --> 00:29:06.170
You can find about

00:29:06.990 --> 00:29:10.234
all the different sexual scandals in every

00:29:10.255 --> 00:29:12.117
single major organized religion.

00:29:12.818 --> 00:29:15.784
It's not hard to pop that bubble of

00:29:15.864 --> 00:29:16.424
like, oh,

00:29:16.464 --> 00:29:18.386
this power makes sense because it is

00:29:18.587 --> 00:29:20.651
godly, God willed it.

00:29:20.671 --> 00:29:21.873
Nah, that doesn't happen.

00:29:22.633 --> 00:29:26.693
and so the the amount of control shrinks

00:29:27.315 --> 00:29:29.194
and then the focus of where that those

00:29:29.255 --> 00:29:30.855
rules have to flow where that power is

00:29:30.895 --> 00:29:32.195
trying to flow gets to smaller and smaller

00:29:32.236 --> 00:29:34.376
groups so you know we had the satanic

00:29:34.416 --> 00:29:35.936
panic and then we had the gay panic

00:29:35.957 --> 00:29:38.117
and then we had um you know now

00:29:38.137 --> 00:29:41.058
we have panic around trans people and ivf

00:29:41.078 --> 00:29:42.799
which is like incredibly small percentages

00:29:42.819 --> 00:29:46.340
of the population uh because they have to

00:29:46.401 --> 00:29:49.342
have that bad guy the big scary thing

00:29:49.402 --> 00:29:49.922
but it doesn't

00:29:51.384 --> 00:29:53.007
holds up under any sort of scrutiny.

00:29:54.167 --> 00:29:56.390
It's just flailing while, again,

00:29:56.910 --> 00:29:58.751
their power and their control crumble.

00:29:58.852 --> 00:30:00.574
But it does real harm.

00:30:00.794 --> 00:30:01.074
Again,

00:30:01.154 --> 00:30:03.016
it's fun every once in a while to

00:30:03.836 --> 00:30:05.699
point at the hypocrisy and laugh about how

00:30:05.739 --> 00:30:06.539
silly it all is.

00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:07.540
And

00:30:09.638 --> 00:30:10.479
People are harmed.

00:30:10.838 --> 00:30:12.720
They're taking away trans people's

00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:13.720
driver's licenses.

00:30:13.740 --> 00:30:15.500
They're limiting their ability to move

00:30:15.540 --> 00:30:16.540
from state to state.

00:30:16.580 --> 00:30:18.382
They're trying to eliminate people's right

00:30:18.422 --> 00:30:19.721
to vote because of that.

00:30:20.422 --> 00:30:24.503
So again, it's about control.

00:30:24.564 --> 00:30:26.483
And specifically in patriarchy,

00:30:26.503 --> 00:30:27.704
it's about controlling women.

00:30:27.805 --> 00:30:28.085
Again,

00:30:29.025 --> 00:30:31.125
the SAVE Act is an attack on women.

00:30:31.905 --> 00:30:33.987
women's right to vote it also is a

00:30:35.167 --> 00:30:37.048
rebrand because Trump has to go out of

00:30:37.088 --> 00:30:38.710
his way to use all the acronyms that

00:30:38.769 --> 00:30:40.750
Biden and Obama used like he's a very

00:30:41.191 --> 00:30:43.031
childish petty person who also has

00:30:43.112 --> 00:30:44.952
dementia and goes to Walter Reed once a

00:30:44.992 --> 00:30:46.653
month to get treatment which is why he

00:30:46.693 --> 00:30:49.076
wasn't in Mar-a-Lago over Easter like

00:30:49.215 --> 00:30:53.357
again just it's exhausting to use your

00:30:53.377 --> 00:30:55.699
brain and pay attention in these times and

00:30:55.719 --> 00:30:55.878
like

00:30:57.640 --> 00:30:59.981
I didn't even read about the Supreme Court

00:31:00.001 --> 00:31:00.602
stuff today.

00:31:00.662 --> 00:31:01.722
I saw one headline.

00:31:01.742 --> 00:31:02.482
I was like, nope,

00:31:02.603 --> 00:31:03.703
because for my mental health,

00:31:04.064 --> 00:31:05.183
I have to stay away from that stuff

00:31:05.203 --> 00:31:06.765
because there is nothing that's more

00:31:06.884 --> 00:31:08.465
infuriating to me as a mental health

00:31:08.486 --> 00:31:10.567
professional who has evidence-based

00:31:10.626 --> 00:31:12.587
practice and has all this research

00:31:12.627 --> 00:31:14.869
background and has all this thing that

00:31:14.910 --> 00:31:17.191
knows how science is supposed to work.

00:31:17.250 --> 00:31:18.432
I went to a research institution.

00:31:18.451 --> 00:31:20.952
I've been published in research journals

00:31:21.032 --> 00:31:22.114
and scientific journals.

00:31:22.513 --> 00:31:23.914
I know how to do all that stuff.

00:31:24.015 --> 00:31:26.236
And so like the Supreme Court being like,

00:31:26.276 --> 00:31:26.516
meh,

00:31:27.967 --> 00:31:29.567
facts don't matter and we're just making

00:31:29.607 --> 00:31:30.909
stuff up because it works.

00:31:31.028 --> 00:31:32.569
And also we're going to claim that we're

00:31:32.670 --> 00:31:33.490
originalists,

00:31:33.770 --> 00:31:35.692
but only if it makes our argument for

00:31:35.732 --> 00:31:37.814
us is very, very frustrating.

00:31:38.214 --> 00:31:38.795
And so again,

00:31:39.576 --> 00:31:41.936
there's everyone's sort of flailing in all

00:31:41.977 --> 00:31:43.898
directions and people are being harmed

00:31:43.919 --> 00:31:44.398
because of it.

00:31:44.439 --> 00:31:45.380
We could just say, Hey,

00:31:45.420 --> 00:31:47.000
these people don't deserve to be in power.

00:31:47.500 --> 00:31:48.561
And like the system's broken,

00:31:48.642 --> 00:31:49.482
let's do something different.

00:31:49.522 --> 00:31:50.222
There's again,

00:31:50.743 --> 00:31:52.464
a lot more of us than them,

00:31:52.625 --> 00:31:53.586
but again,

00:31:53.925 --> 00:31:55.867
civilizations shifting and societies

00:31:55.907 --> 00:31:59.130
collapsing is is never really an easy

00:31:59.170 --> 00:32:02.792
process so you know we we have these

00:32:02.833 --> 00:32:05.273
attacks on women we have these attacks

00:32:05.374 --> 00:32:07.955
certainly on sex like that's not new right

00:32:08.096 --> 00:32:08.217
the

00:32:08.992 --> 00:32:11.374
The Pope has been outspoken about like

00:32:11.434 --> 00:32:13.435
genocide is bad and so is war and

00:32:13.476 --> 00:32:14.876
Pete Hegseth's prayers aren't getting

00:32:14.896 --> 00:32:16.458
heard because it's got blood on his hands.

00:32:16.877 --> 00:32:18.398
But also the Pope has protected a ton

00:32:18.419 --> 00:32:19.618
of priests who are pedophiles.

00:32:19.739 --> 00:32:22.121
So like the church isn't on some sort

00:32:22.141 --> 00:32:22.941
of high ground there.

00:32:22.980 --> 00:32:26.103
They are part of the problem systemically,

00:32:26.222 --> 00:32:28.023
institutionally, structurally.

00:32:28.064 --> 00:32:30.925
They defend predators because it protects

00:32:30.945 --> 00:32:31.527
their own power.

00:32:32.355 --> 00:32:34.096
And so, yeah, I don't know.

00:32:35.036 --> 00:32:35.876
Sex is good.

00:32:36.777 --> 00:32:39.298
Consenting adults can enjoy each other.

00:32:39.838 --> 00:32:41.720
Pleasure is a good thing for us.

00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:43.540
And these ghouls,

00:32:43.580 --> 00:32:45.521
these people in charge who are miserable,

00:32:45.701 --> 00:32:48.083
awful people themselves have to attack

00:32:48.123 --> 00:32:50.663
that stuff because it's how they feel like

00:32:50.683 --> 00:32:51.243
they're in control.

00:32:53.765 --> 00:32:55.266
you know, I said, like,

00:32:55.346 --> 00:32:56.546
you put a leash on something that's

00:32:56.586 --> 00:32:57.747
pleasurable, like, yeah,

00:32:57.807 --> 00:32:59.346
that's the problem.

00:32:59.386 --> 00:33:00.428
The problem isn't that something that's

00:33:00.448 --> 00:33:01.607
pleasurable exists.

00:33:01.647 --> 00:33:03.368
The problem isn't that somebody has a

00:33:03.449 --> 00:33:03.949
fetish.

00:33:04.729 --> 00:33:07.450
The problem isn't playful kink with sex

00:33:07.490 --> 00:33:07.891
workers.

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The problem is awful people in power

00:33:09.990 --> 00:33:11.731
harming people.

00:33:11.892 --> 00:33:14.192
Abuses of power becoming so normalized

00:33:14.212 --> 00:33:14.873
that we don't even, like,

00:33:14.893 --> 00:33:16.213
that's not even a headline anymore.

00:33:18.253 --> 00:33:19.295
The Christinome...

00:33:20.942 --> 00:33:23.803
ad money, the jet she gave herself,

00:33:23.942 --> 00:33:25.502
Kash Patel going to the Olympics.

00:33:25.702 --> 00:33:25.942
Again,

00:33:26.303 --> 00:33:28.263
the corruption and those types of things

00:33:28.304 --> 00:33:29.443
aren't even in the news anymore.

00:33:29.463 --> 00:33:31.544
The Epstein files are hardly hanging on in

00:33:31.564 --> 00:33:32.424
the news anymore.

00:33:36.965 --> 00:33:37.685
It's falling apart.

00:33:37.746 --> 00:33:38.165
But again,

00:33:38.445 --> 00:33:41.207
as the power structure crumbles,

00:33:41.467 --> 00:33:43.727
the harm that gets done gets more and

00:33:43.767 --> 00:33:45.387
more narrowly focused on the smaller

00:33:45.428 --> 00:33:45.728
groups.

00:33:45.748 --> 00:33:46.988
They're trying to take away the rights of

00:33:47.008 --> 00:33:47.528
women to vote.

00:33:48.046 --> 00:33:49.726
They have in some states like Kansas

00:33:49.766 --> 00:33:51.047
successfully taken away the right for

00:33:51.086 --> 00:33:53.547
trans people to vote because you need ID

00:33:53.587 --> 00:33:54.087
to vote.

00:33:54.107 --> 00:33:55.567
And they just nullified everyone,

00:33:55.907 --> 00:33:57.749
all trans people's IDs overnight.

00:33:57.929 --> 00:33:59.648
So again, like,

00:33:59.689 --> 00:34:00.689
and I don't know that that'll hold up

00:34:00.729 --> 00:34:01.170
in court.

00:34:01.230 --> 00:34:02.710
I don't know that that will lead to

00:34:02.930 --> 00:34:04.410
trans people not being able to vote in

00:34:04.450 --> 00:34:05.730
Kansas in November.

00:34:06.691 --> 00:34:08.731
um in the midterms but like again they're

00:34:08.831 --> 00:34:10.932
they're trying these things whether or not

00:34:10.972 --> 00:34:12.893
they work will be the question but like

00:34:13.094 --> 00:34:14.614
they've gotten a bunch of stuff through

00:34:15.193 --> 00:34:16.855
again they're deporting people illegally

00:34:16.894 --> 00:34:19.835
they're doing a war illegally um the

00:34:19.876 --> 00:34:22.976
corruption is off the charts illegal so

00:34:23.416 --> 00:34:24.898
they're they're doing a bunch of stuff

00:34:24.918 --> 00:34:27.079
that we know is the illegal and they're

00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:30.159
still doing it so whether or not this

00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:33.041
stuff works um will be the long-term

00:34:33.101 --> 00:34:34.862
question and how long it takes to

00:34:35.461 --> 00:34:36.503
I don't want to pick up the pieces,

00:34:36.523 --> 00:34:39.103
just do something different will be the

00:34:39.143 --> 00:34:39.744
other question.

00:34:40.724 --> 00:34:45.208
And if all this stuff is stressful, yeah,

00:34:45.228 --> 00:34:45.668
correct.

00:34:45.688 --> 00:34:47.489
It's your brain working correctly.

00:34:47.548 --> 00:34:49.851
We're not designed to regulate our way

00:34:49.871 --> 00:34:50.371
through this.

00:34:50.411 --> 00:34:52.552
We're not designed to breathe and then be

00:34:52.632 --> 00:34:52.992
okay.

00:34:53.213 --> 00:34:55.074
This is supposed to be dysregulating

00:34:55.094 --> 00:34:56.835
because it's bad.

00:34:57.936 --> 00:34:59.396
A lot of people are being harmed.

00:34:59.817 --> 00:35:01.318
We don't have the power to stop it,

00:35:01.518 --> 00:35:02.838
even though we don't agree with it

00:35:02.898 --> 00:35:03.338
morally.

00:35:04.293 --> 00:35:07.655
and we don't have the power to stop

00:35:07.695 --> 00:35:08.255
paying for it.

00:35:08.456 --> 00:35:12.278
My taxes went up this year for no

00:35:12.318 --> 00:35:12.838
good reason,

00:35:12.938 --> 00:35:14.400
because somebody has to make billions of

00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:15.460
dollars while they're in office.

00:35:15.739 --> 00:35:16.101
I don't know.

00:35:17.001 --> 00:35:18.081
To fund a genocide,

00:35:21.623 --> 00:35:23.864
because the political party that claims to

00:35:23.905 --> 00:35:25.485
care about families and children got rid

00:35:25.505 --> 00:35:26.846
of a bunch of those tax credits.

00:35:27.226 --> 00:35:27.947
It's a very,

00:35:28.507 --> 00:35:29.947
very stupid time to be alive.

00:35:32.152 --> 00:35:32.614
So yeah,

00:35:32.733 --> 00:35:33.715
you got to take care of yourself.

00:35:34.376 --> 00:35:35.619
Hopefully, if this stuff's stressful,

00:35:35.739 --> 00:35:38.123
you didn't listen to it all.

00:35:38.264 --> 00:35:38.905
These stories...

00:35:40.784 --> 00:35:42.465
are so over the top as to be

00:35:42.525 --> 00:35:43.987
somewhat comical again,

00:35:44.047 --> 00:35:46.268
like the real harm is happening.

00:35:46.369 --> 00:35:47.409
I'm not dismissing that.

00:35:47.449 --> 00:35:49.431
I don't want to like poke fun about

00:35:49.471 --> 00:35:50.150
it all, but like,

00:35:50.471 --> 00:35:52.813
these are not serious people.

00:35:53.974 --> 00:35:56.215
They're doing serious harm, but like they,

00:35:56.315 --> 00:35:58.876
it is not some sort of coherent master

00:35:58.916 --> 00:35:59.257
plan.

00:35:59.317 --> 00:36:01.978
The heritage foundation is a little bit of

00:36:01.998 --> 00:36:04.239
the, the dog that caught the car.

00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:06.021
They are getting some of their stuff done,

00:36:06.742 --> 00:36:08.083
but there's no long-term plan because

00:36:08.103 --> 00:36:08.503
again, like,

00:36:09.721 --> 00:36:11.161
The churches have never been able to hold

00:36:11.222 --> 00:36:12.822
on to power because churches can't agree

00:36:12.842 --> 00:36:14.402
with themselves because they get so bogged

00:36:14.422 --> 00:36:15.704
down in churchy stuff,

00:36:16.824 --> 00:36:17.724
which is all made up.

00:36:18.304 --> 00:36:19.365
People arguing about their favorite

00:36:19.385 --> 00:36:21.786
version of their, their preferred fanfic.

00:36:22.166 --> 00:36:24.228
So I don't know.

00:36:24.427 --> 00:36:26.068
I don't have like a nice landing place.

00:36:26.128 --> 00:36:28.210
This stuff is frustrating and stressful

00:36:28.309 --> 00:36:29.971
because your brain is reading the

00:36:29.990 --> 00:36:31.090
situation correctly.

00:36:31.831 --> 00:36:33.753
The idea that we could just clothe

00:36:33.773 --> 00:36:34.833
everyone, house everyone,

00:36:34.873 --> 00:36:36.313
feed everyone because we have enough room

00:36:36.333 --> 00:36:37.074
for everyone on the planet.

00:36:37.094 --> 00:36:38.335
We have enough food for everyone on the

00:36:38.355 --> 00:36:38.635
planet.

00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:41.501
we could all have our basic needs met

00:36:42.282 --> 00:36:44.804
but like i don't know we gotta feed

00:36:44.844 --> 00:36:47.105
the robots that steal copyrighted material

00:36:48.365 --> 00:36:52.668
question mark and i truly don't understand

00:36:52.688 --> 00:36:54.369
somebody who's not motivated by money

00:36:54.389 --> 00:36:56.311
because money's made up none of it makes

00:36:56.331 --> 00:37:02.893
sense to me so yeah none of this

00:37:02.914 --> 00:37:03.914
is new again if

00:37:05.438 --> 00:37:06.978
Three hundred years ago,

00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:08.780
I could also have done this podcast about

00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:10.641
how the church is abusing their power and

00:37:11.083 --> 00:37:12.643
using sex as a mechanism of control

00:37:13.304 --> 00:37:14.184
because it's always been there.

00:37:14.304 --> 00:37:15.726
Could have done it a thousand years ago.

00:37:15.846 --> 00:37:17.086
Could have done it two thousand years ago.

00:37:17.367 --> 00:37:18.387
It's not a new idea.

00:37:18.489 --> 00:37:19.688
We're just seeing it play out very

00:37:19.730 --> 00:37:22.632
foolishly and nonsensically.

00:37:22.911 --> 00:37:25.094
But that's part of fascism, too,

00:37:25.193 --> 00:37:27.556
is it's paradoxical on purpose.

00:37:29.619 --> 00:37:30.800
Take care of yourself, you know,

00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:34.282
be like me and don't read the latest

00:37:34.322 --> 00:37:35.463
analysis of the Supreme Court.

00:37:35.503 --> 00:37:38.605
It's just going to make you batty because

00:37:38.625 --> 00:37:40.005
they're not doing something logical.

00:37:40.025 --> 00:37:41.246
And if you have a brain that works

00:37:41.306 --> 00:37:46.289
logically, it's going to hurt your brain.

00:37:46.389 --> 00:37:50.313
Vote for whoever is wanting to hold the

00:37:50.353 --> 00:37:53.175
current regime to account and also expand

00:37:53.215 --> 00:37:54.695
the Supreme Court or just get rid of

00:37:54.755 --> 00:37:56.456
the corrupt justices would probably work

00:37:56.496 --> 00:37:56.637
too.

00:37:58.958 --> 00:38:01.980
We're too far away from the midterms for

00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:02.679
some of that, though.

00:38:03.659 --> 00:38:07.260
So, you know, America.

00:38:10.442 --> 00:38:11.081
Falling apart.

00:38:12.322 --> 00:38:13.422
But hopefully you're not falling apart.

00:38:13.442 --> 00:38:14.103
Take care of yourself.

00:38:14.123 --> 00:38:15.782
Take care of somebody else.

00:38:16.483 --> 00:38:18.364
It's a marathon, not a sprint, y'all.

00:38:18.384 --> 00:38:20.204
All right, peace.