Getting Out The Podcast

Exposing A Corrupt Cop

Jesse Xander Season 3 Episode 70

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A badge can feel like a promise: safety, order, truth. Tirzah thought she found all three when a detective slipped her his number under the guise of neighborhood safety. What followed was a masterclass in manipulation—love-bombing, boundary testing, and a slow, steady shift from romance to control. We walk through the pivotal beats: on-duty pull-ups with her in the car, drinking on shift, and confidential case details shared like party trivia. He mapped out a future—house hunting, kids’ schools, marriage talk—while quietly moving the goalposts and keeping her on his schedule and on his terms.

The most painful turns happen behind closed doors. Sex becomes leverage, not intimacy. Clear no’s are litigated into yes’s, and hesitations become accusations. He pressures her to quit a past life to “build a family,” then demands she reenter it to “fix” his finances, complete with degrading rules and a Total abuse of power. This is just the beginning of a long story that we dive DEEP into. NO PUN INTENDED. Lets Go! Episode 2 coming soon.....

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Jesse:

Oh shit. Alright, whatever. We're here with Tierza today, okay? So yeah, we got some crazy story about uh well, let's say relationship to start with, right?

Speaker 2:

And corruption.

JR:

Corrup JR's getting JR's getting uh right to the fact, but um yeah it's a wild story. She has quite a story to say the least me and JR have a reputation as well as I guess tears with the the uh the law, exactly. And I'm from Monmouth County, so I know. So this particular person that we're gonna be talking about is from Monmouth County, and Monmouth County I know has some corrupt officers. But this shit that I heard is like corruption, but like like some gay shit on top of it, like in some weird shit on top of it.

Tirzah:

Some weird shit on top of that, manipulation, manipulation, shit.

JR:

Like there's a lot of shit.

Tirzah:

There's a there's a laws as a police officer.

Jesse:

There's a lot that we could talk about today. So I alright, so you s you where did you meet the him first of all?

Tirzah:

Alright, so he was on duty.

Jesse:

Okay.

Tirzah:

You're not supposed to give your number out on duty either. That's right. I should have known from the door.

Jesse:

So he was on duty doing like where?

Tirzah:

So I never saw him before. Okay, so I was at my house. Okay. In front of my house, this is when I used to smoke cigarettes.

Jesse:

Okay.

Tirzah:

I smoke a cigarette. He walks into my car, right? He was in regular clothes, so I had never seen this dude before, ever. And like the cops used to be at my house a lot because of my ex. So like when he would get high, and I would have to kick him out. So and the only way he would kick him out was from the cops. So he walks into my window, was like, Do you have any cameras on the outside of your house? And I was like, Who the fuck are you? Right. And he was like, I'm a detective. I said, No, you're not. Right? And then he like lifted up his like bat his shirt and I saw his badge and gun. I was like, Oh, well, I've never seen you before. He's like, Oh, because I was loaned off to the FBI. So then he that's how he started. And then he was like, and there was a drunk blind.

Jesse:

Yeah, he's doing it all out right from here. It's like I was like, FBI, yo, I got that's like going up to a girl and whipping your dick out. It's like me going up to a girl and singing, just like, look at me, I can sing, man.

Tirzah:

I'm not gonna lie, like I was not attracted to him at first. I wasn't like so what what it was his personality. Okay, his per like he was funny as shit. Like, honestly, well, I don't now I don't even know who the who he really is.

Jesse:

Isn't that scary how like you can go through a whole relationship and then like three years later something happens and like the different things? Whoa, I thought I completely knew you. Like three years is just gone, like or you know, however long. I know that.

JR:

We'll get to that.

Jesse:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll get to that. So you met him on duty and he gave you information on duty, which is not even a while.

Tirzah:

So he was like, Yeah, like this is how he got away with it. He was like, So, because there's like a drug house across the street, and he's like, if you see anything, here's my number, right? But he gave me his personal number, not his work number. So then we start texting, all that, and then like I had a flat tire. He comes and helps me, you know.

Speaker 2:

He probably fucking flattened your tires.

Jesse:

He probably that's some like girl, like weird girl shit that'll leave like a scarf on your house, you know what I mean? But like he's like took that shit to the corrupt top level.

Tirzah:

And it was actually an old bridge. I was like an old bridge. Oh shit. Yeah, and then he came and got like helped me like get the tire off and blah blah blah. And then like, I don't know, one day we like were like, let's hang out. And then, like, I don't know. I I think I liked that he was aggressive, like, but not too aggressive. So when he first walked in my door, as soon as I opened the door, he came in and gave me a kiss, and I was like, Oh.

Jesse:

Oh so he was he was straightforward, like he went right, he went for it. So that's it. So yeah, I guess, all right, because that's been out of the game for most times. So girls are like, they like that? All right, but confidentiality. Yo, that could be like if you do that to the I hugged the wrong girl.

Tirzah:

But we're talking about it.

Jesse:

Oh, yeah. It could go really. Oh, okay, okay, yeah. It could go really. He did fix the tire. And then he fixed it. So yeah, you're absolutely right.

JR:

It could go really good or really bad. You know, you just gotta fucking like accept the consequences. Thank you for thank you.

Jesse:

Okay, continue.

Tirzah:

And like, what am I allowed to say?

Jesse:

Pull the microphone a little closer, T T. You're allowed to say we're gonna wing it, and you're allowed to see what doesn't get the video, you're allowed to say whatever you want. I'll edit it down. We'll be fine. You're all right, we just go for it.

Tirzah:

So that night, I mean, like the first night we hung out there, like we didn't have sex.

Jesse:

So that's good. Isn't that good? That's good.

Tirzah:

And I was like, Oh, I like that, you know.

Jesse:

But okay, I'll go ask.

Speaker 2:

We're trying to look for good things in this guy. We're looking for flaws.

Tirzah:

I know, but that's I'm telling you how it started. The beginning was great. Like, it was like this because he got away for with being a masterpiece of shit for two and a half years. Like, he was so manipulative that I believed everything that came out of his mouth. Like, I was always in the wrong.

Jesse:

Like, I was always saying sorry because he just knew Well, the people who when manipulators know how to be able to put that in the world. I was a manipulator.

Speaker 2:

They are the ones manipulating the situation.

Tirzah:

Absolutely. Yeah, he's straight up. Like, because he made me fall madly in love with him. Like, and I told him at first when I met him, I did not want to be in love, I did not want all that. And then we ended up falling in love. And we didn't make anything official for like the first year. We were doing like, like I was doing me, he was doing him. He would, and it's funny because like I'm very blunt, right? Like, I was single, so like I was doing me, like, and if I had sex with somebody, like I straight up told him if he asked, I didn't want to. Oh, yeah.

Jesse:

So you guys were not you were seeing each other, but you weren't like, yeah, you were like, This is how I was for the first year, yeah.

Tirzah:

And he always threw my face, like as time went on, as we got like in a relationship. He always threw my face, Well, I'm you're the only girl that I've that I've laid eyes on, that I've only touched since I met you. And it was all a lie. Like he we were getting these huge blowout fights, like, well, could you say the same, Tierza? Could you do the same? Can you? I'm like, bro, we weren't together.

Speaker 2:

If he has to defend his position that much, it sounds like a lie already.

Jesse:

Okay, so during his first year, was he doing anything that he should not have been doing? Oh, so well, I mean, I'm not sure.

Tirzah:

I mean the police do. So, like, it was exciting because like he would pick me up in his work car. I would Am I allowed to curse? Hell yeah. You can curse. Oh no, so I would suck him in his work car, I would suck his dick in his work car, like all the time. Like that was our thing. Like back seat, front seat, like and the airport, a plaza, freaking parking.

Jesse:

In his cop car too, right?

Tirzah:

And in front of a park, school zone.

Jesse:

Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, and you said he would pull you over sometimes while you were in the car. Like pull over somebody else.

Tirzah:

While you were in the cop car. Yes. That's why.

Jesse:

So that's some like that's some power trip and shit. Yeah, it is. Like that's some really like, oh, I got the look at this. Watch this. I can do this to you. I could do this to you.

Speaker 2:

Every single fucking cop does that shit.

Jesse:

Hell yeah, no, that there's cops that are pfft-the Kingsburg cops are corrupt as hell. Like, oh, Kingsburg, I drive 10 miles an hour.

Tirzah:

That's where this is where like he like his best friend is the same way as him. So, like, yeah, so like the same thing that he did to me, I found out like his best friend did to another girl for five years. So, this was for me, it was three years. This girl endured this shit for five years. They're pieces of shit. Like, he thinks because he's the law, he can treat you however he wants. He thinks that he could get away with it. Like drinking on the job, right?

Jesse:

That's crazy to me. For a cop to be drinking on the job, oh, that's not even half of what I've heard.

Speaker 2:

Are you kidding me? Especially from that county. Yeah, forget about it.

Tirzah:

Straight up alcohol, he's an alcoholic, straight up, right? He loves butt his butt light. And like we would literally be at the beach or at his house or wherever, or at the bar. Oh, I gotta go in. And like, or he would tell me that he was coming to pick up the cooler for the him and the guys at work. Like, he literally drank on the job a lot, and especially in the summertime. All the one then when they go doing the extra shifts of patrolling on the beach. What do you think's in the cooler is in the freaking the Jeep thing?

Jesse:

I always knew it. I know he's doing it. And then what is oh, of course, what does drinking do? It makes you more aggressive too, and then it gives you that power trip a little even more. And what do you think? They get more tickets, more fucking tasing people. Have you ever seen him do anything like crazy to somebody when he pulled over somebody?

Tirzah:

I just know, no, I haven't seen him do anything crazy too. Is he nice when he pulls people over? Well, like most people, like he's fake. He's fake, though. The thing is, like, he's so many, like a lot of people are like cool with him because they don't really know him. Of course. They don't really know the real um I don't know if I was about to say his name. I don't know if I could get in trouble for that.

Jesse:

You could say whatever. If it's true and we got we have receipts, we're gonna pull up. She has receipts. She has receipts like a whole fucking shopping list. We're gonna forget about it. We're gonna be pulling up the shopping list and we'll show you. Like, so it's gonna take me a little time to edit this.

Speaker 2:

But for those of you out there who are hopeless romantics like myself, that has a lot to say for personality.

Jesse:

Yes, yes.

Speaker 2:

So if you're gonna a shitty, corrupt cop, right, can get a pretty girl to fall in love with him, you know, personality pretty much runs.

Jesse:

And he's not even that good with him. No, he's not, but I think I could get a point above him. I could get a point above him. Hey, but wait, okay, I don't go around looking at a guy. The question doesn't even seem that big. Let's hear it. That's why. I just want to ask a question. Uh as a man, all right. If my dick is alright, you know? What? If my dick's alright, it's okay. Okay. What happens if I got gray fingers and an amazing tongue that would have been a little bit more than a big one?

Tirzah:

No, well, okay, so like, listen, it's not always about no, it's not always about like the size. It's not I know that. I'm not asking about size.

Jesse:

I'm saying like it's alright. You know what I mean? Like, may have a little no, it doesn't have like you got like say somebody got like a bend or like fuck it, you know, like I'm not thank god I'm circumcised. You know what I mean? Like an uncircumcised dick. Like, you know what I mean? But like they got the tongue, yeah, they got everything besides that one thing.

Speaker 2:

Honestly, versatility rules.

Jesse:

That's what I'm saying, right?

Tirzah:

You know what I mean? If you're not everyone's different, don't you're a renaissance man.

Speaker 2:

If you have exactly the Da Vinci of sex, right? A big dick, be good with it, have a good tongue, and be fucking fly, and also have a lot of game. There you go. Right?

Tirzah:

He what attracted me to him was that he pushed my boundaries. Like anything, because I he sucked at first, right? He straight up.

Jesse:

Well, you told yeah, you said the first time warned him.

Tirzah:

So I literally said, What the fuck was that? Like, because I like I thought it was like we were it was built up, that is that was gonna be amazing. And like I remember the first time I like actually like grabbed his dick and I was like, oh. So like and then I was like, oh sad 20 seconds, like it was a disappointment.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that sounds disappointing.

Tirzah:

That is it was. I was like, what the like I was highly disappointed, but then disappointed in you, Mike. But then it got really good, but then like he got sick. Now, so like now we're in love, right? So now let's move on, right? We're together, right? We we freaking are in love with each other. We made an agreement that, like, oh, if I changed my life, then we're gonna buy a house together. Because like I had like, hello, I'm an addict, right? Like, I had men in my life that were helping me financially.

Jesse:

Like, you know what I mean? I honesty is of is a great value.

Tirzah:

Yeah, and I did and I did. I was making like an extra hundred G's a year, and like he was like, I mean, God, he said, if you stop that, we're going to get married and we're going to buy a house and we're going to like be a family. And I find like because I've always dated like pieces of shits, right? Like, uh, you know what I mean? And like nothing, nothing gets out of it.

Speaker 2:

So you were looking for something forward to being a lot more than what you've had before. Correct. And for a girl to be willing to do that for a guy, I can't even get my fucking this girl that I'm like talking to to do that for me. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So that's a big thing. Hell yeah.

Tirzah:

Absolutely. Because I loved him with everything in me. Like, I was like, I want to be a wife.

Speaker 2:

Dude, um to then turn into a piece of shit, and then you got kids. Yeah. So it's and I'm a single mom. Like, you know what I mean? So that that that adds a couple more heads to the to the equation. Absolutely. They want once you're a big deal, I feel like. You know, I feel like too. I would appreciate that more than any other.

Jesse:

Dude, even in court, like, even if you're like, say you're like you're married to someone, I know you're not married, but like say if you were married to someone, like even the judge would say, like, regardless of what happened, like if you had a certain lifestyle that the wife was staying at home, taking care of the kids, or the wife was staying home and she lived a certain lifestyle, regardless of anything, you guys are separated. You still have to provide that lifestyle for her. That's true. Because she's comfortable with it. Like, that's how she's used to living. Yeah, it's like once you take someone, I understand it now, and I never understood that before. I mean, I still don't really fucking agree with 50-50. Sorry, we're men, we're good. We're men, we're men, exactly. Yeah, like you know what I mean. I'm always gonna be the one to take care of my girl. We're gonna be able to get away.

Speaker 2:

A girl who's willing to be like, yes, I'm gonna be yours, and I'm gonna cut out that shit.

Tirzah:

Yeah, and that's what I was willing to do.

Speaker 2:

You shouldn't fuck that up.

Tirzah:

But like, he so but he was so manipulative, right? Like, so I stopped everything, right? And I was like ready, like to be a wife. Like, I we went and looked at 15 houses to buy. Like, we had a realtor.

Jesse:

See, that's the thing. Like, he he tricked you into thinking that there was a certain thing.

Tirzah:

But there was always something like, oh, well, the mortgage rate is too high and the interest rate is too high, so both can't be high at the same time. My house, right? Because he had like his house was like not big enough for us, right? But then we discussed, we even discussed like putting up walls in his house to make it like because when he first bought that house, it was a three-bedroom house, he turned it into a two-bedroom house because his room's huge. So we're gonna put a wall back up. We're gonna figure it out for now. That's what the agreement was, right?

Jesse:

The fact that you you're talking about that in a way, like it's like, oh, you guys were talking about putting up fucking walls.

Speaker 2:

No, but okay, so I want to know though, was he just like like leading you on the whole time, like making bringing you over to look at houses with him and just kind of always making excuses and pushing it forward and forward and forward while you're thinking that you're actually buying a house to like be a wife to this man who you now fucking basically dropped everything for.

Tirzah:

I did.

Speaker 2:

And then I stopped paying my rent now, so okay.

Jesse:

Thank you for the summary.

Speaker 2:

I appreciate that. You're welcome. I needed it though.

Tirzah:

And then I stopped paying my rent, which I know is irresponsible, but I thought we were moving in with him.

Jesse:

It's not irresponsible. I'm sorry, like I would I would have done the same shit. Like well, she was under a certain impression. That's what I mean. Like, yeah. If I tell you, if I tell my girl, like, I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna like you're moving in with me. You know what I mean? I would tell her, don't pay that fucking.

Tirzah:

Yeah, I stopped. I transferred like my kids' school to his district. Okay. He told me he had lung cancer. All right. Did he? He had no lung cancer. Of course he had. His lieutenant had the lung cancer, not him.

Jesse:

I was hoping he did too. Oh, so he got the story from his lieutenant. Yeah, he was pulling out from he was like a taking from all parts was like.

Tirzah:

Like he was doing, like, I was going on like like because I had also like a decent job too, right? So like I got people into treatment. I was an alumni coordinator for a private facility. So I was going to like vocations like on my own. So you were doing shit. Yeah, you were doing your thing. You're doing and like he would be like, I'll be on vacation, he'd send me $500, like, you know, oh take care of everyone, blah, blah, blah. Like, you know, but then like shit started to shift, right? It started to change. The arguing started more because I started questioning, right? Once I started questioning, you start thinking like in your head, like, what's going on?

Jesse:

Let me look at these little points and see really.

Speaker 2:

Now, what was it that that incited the questioning? Like, did you see like red flags that he was dropping all over the place?

Tirzah:

The first, like I said, the first like two and a half years, I didn't see shit, to be honest. I thought he was a hard working man, and that's something I I adored about him. And it was all a lie. He just had a double life.

Speaker 2:

Oh, wow.

Jesse:

And oh, so every time that he was saying he was working, it was really with this, other than that. He was really with it. Oh, wow. Yeah, okay.

Tirzah:

Well, I don't know how often, but like because she was in college. So like it's kind of weird too. He's 35, like and she was like, what, 22, 20? Oh, I don't know, something like that. Because when I found out about her, she was 23. And they were dating in at least a year on the side of me. Which, like, I'm like, how did he pull that off? Like, that's crazy to me.

Speaker 2:

It's pretty skillful.

Jesse:

I'm not you know, I don't like giving cops props for anything, but cops, dude, they they they know little ways to manipulate people, they do it for a fucking job.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's true.

Tirzah:

I never looked through his phone once, though. That's how much I'm gonna do it.

Jesse:

God bless you. That's a rare trait for a woman.

Speaker 2:

That's you shouldn't look through it.

Jesse:

I know that's what I'm saying. I agree with that. You shouldn't look through people's phones. I mean, you if at the beginning of a relationship you want my password, that's fine. If anything were to be like where you think, but it shouldn't be something that like let me look at your phone. I always get a little I believe.

Speaker 2:

I always make a really complicated password. So the girl, like, I'm like, so my the the password on my phone is the weight of a single hydrogen atom. And I'm like, so if something happens to me and you can figure that out, you can get into my phone and see where I'm at or whatever. You know what I mean?

Jesse:

A hydrogen atom, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Tirzah:

I never I thought it's true though. I know because you're fucking crazy, I thought that like we actually I thought honestly, like why I also heard so much is like I thought for the first time in my life I had a healthy relationship. Yeah, like healthy, right? And I was completely wrong, right? Come because I never went through his phone, I never questioned him before. Like, and then I wait. What? Healthy, healthy, yeah.

Jesse:

Okay, I agree, I agree with you. Wait, starting not to get healthy.

Speaker 2:

You had a lot going on too, though. She had a lot going on.

Jesse:

Yeah, yeah, I know that you know stable relationship. I mean, stable, like he has a stable situation. He's a cop, yeah, he could support for you, you know, and you got kids, that type of shit. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But at this point you're living with him too, right? When you're living with him at this point, too.

Tirzah:

Well, we slept there every day.

Jesse:

So it was basically like she it was like when you're a girl, when you see a girl every day, she brings your clothes to your house.

Tirzah:

We had like absolutely kids had their room. The kids called the spare room their bedroom. See, that was their room.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Jesse:

Yeah, no, absolutely. So, but the thing is, okay. So now wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 2:

That's my question. Oh, he's about to get juicy now. Yeah, yeah. Hurry up, Jesse.

Jesse:

So when when you're in a stable relationship and you get a text message asking you if like some guy's dick is bigger than his. Oh shit. Okay, is that like a like a gay thing? Like, is he gay a little bit?

Speaker 2:

You are so stuck on that. I want to know.

Tirzah:

He's a cuck, first of all. I know what that I know. So like it's gotta be a good thing. So he doesn't like to be admit that he's a cuck, right? But he is a cuck. I mean, if that's what you're doing, like I mean, he likes to get pegged, right? So like I have like the screenshot of that too, of saying, like, I I took I handled that uh pink toy without even complaining.

Jesse:

That's the one that I saw first. That's why I contacted her. I saw a pink toy. Yeah, the rabbit toy. I have a picture of it. It was like, you know how like when their Snapchats are like too fast and you can't read it, and you're like, wait, what did I just see? Yeah, yeah. And I stopped it and I pulled it back and I read it, like I paused it. And I'm like, the fuck is this? And then the next video I saw explains how he's a cop. And I'm like, oh my god, dude. He probably arrested me.

Tirzah:

Yeah. Well, he actually is like this big macho man, but like really, he's like, okay, so with me, I so our sex ended up being like completely crazy out of this world, right? Like all boundaries pushed, like all my no's were turned into yeses. When I first got with him, I told him, like, I'm not gonna give you a threesome.

Jesse:

Like Oh, really?

Tirzah:

You were on that that level. Okay, I didn't oh I thought you were already. No, I don't give a shit. No, no, no, because I already like me, that ruined like me and my ex husband's marriage. So, like, because we used to like have like swinging parties and all that stuff, right?

Jesse:

Oh, hey, just. We were talking about that earlier. No, I'm talking about parties.

Tirzah:

So it just ruined my marriage. So I was like, I'll never do that again. But then like I loved Mike so much. So I was like, whatever, like, because he would like throw shit in my face. Well, I dealt with this with you. I dealt with that. Dah da. Like he was so manipulative and like would make me, he would go on for like 12 hours straight, making me feel like shit. Like, if like I don't care about his needs. So then finally I gave him a threesome with a girl. Then I gave him a threesome with a guy. Then he said that. Wait, the threesome with a guy always freaks me out. Okay.

Speaker 2:

I mean, yeah, he's gay, dude. He's super fucking gay.

Tirzah:

I mean, the guy.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I can't answer for him, but it sounds fucking gay as hell to me.

Tirzah:

He liked the guy. I mean, they didn't like touch each other, but like they were both there. And like he wanted to watch, like, am I like gonna be like, can should I just be vulgar? Like, vulgar being. He loved watching. Like, he wanted to see loads of cum on my face. Oh my god. That's what he loved. Like deadass.

Jesse:

Buckey.

Tirzah:

Like, that's what you know he asked for his birthday? How do you get multiple?

Jesse:

Like, you know what I mean? You gotta keep going? Is that like a little bit?

Tirzah:

Like, you know, like he wanted to like come on the face on my head. He wanted to like cup it.

Jesse:

Like, did he cut?

Tirzah:

Did he store his? No, like, I mean, like, well so that he could just dump it up? Like, if you don't hear off. I overthink it. I'm an overthink. He was taking pills to come more.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Jesse:

Like you produce more pills. Can you tell him to like give me some what are the pills?

Tirzah:

He was. Like, so he his favorite thing was like to come on my face. Like, he loved that. That was like his favorite thing. And then explained. I'm a fan. I'm a fan.

Speaker 2:

So did you get into this, like, uh, like, like you were already having this kind of sex when you guys moved in together, you had the kids in the house and all this.

Tirzah:

Yeah, well, we weren't, we weren't technically I still had my house, he had his house, but like we were having like this kind of sex, but like not when the kids are there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, of course, but I mean at this point in time.

Tirzah:

Yes, and like he told me like the one night that the that when we had a threesome with this one guy, like he told me it went wrong, right? He was like, Oh, you can put three three threesome went wrong? Yeah, okay. That's what he said. And then we had to redo it. That's a fucking that's a redo it.

Speaker 2:

That's a porn movie. So, so so you had to read it. That's a porn title.

Tirzah:

No, he wanted to redo it with him.

Speaker 2:

Oh, with the same guy, I hope.

Jesse:

That's a porn title. Threesome come wrong.

Tirzah:

Probably is.

Jesse:

It's not like it's probably exists. All right, continue.

Tirzah:

So he made me feel like like the next like I don't know, week, two weeks, I don't know however long it was until it happened again. He made me feel like a complete complete piece of shit that I cared more about the other guy, this and that. And I'm like, you're not even like right.

Jesse:

Like, yeah, no, because you made you turned my uh my nose into the yeah, like that's not even true.

Tirzah:

And I'm like, I didn't even like I'm not even that the dude that we did it with was like my old best friend. I'm not attracted to him at all. How did you pick him? Like, is there a way to do it? I that sounds fucked up, but I knew you would do it. No, there's no fucking. Like, because he tried to fuck me in the bit in the past, so I was like, oh, well, like, you know, like here's your opportunity, basically. Like, but you have to fuck me with my man. And he was like down, like, all right, whatever you want to do. What do you want? You want to be double stuffed? Like, oh my god, you want to scream for that? Like, he just was like all about it. He was into it, yeah, for sure. He was definitely into it, but like, and then like, but the thing is the manipulation of the afterwards. I did what you wanted, and I was still wrong, right? Like, it was sick. No matter what I did, it wasn't good enough for him.

Speaker 2:

How so though? Like, he just blamed you for things going wrong during sex that he organized, basically.

Jesse:

Yeah, doesn't make any sense.

Tirzah:

Yeah, and then he would like send me pictures, like he sent like screenshots of like his dick next to his dick, and like see, well, that's gay as fuck right there.

Speaker 2:

Gay!

Tirzah:

I have it, gay.

Speaker 2:

Um don't worry. I don't know if you can flash these images on YouTube as we speak. Oh, no, no.

Jesse:

So listen, so listen, yeah, as you're listening to his audio, you'll this is what you're gonna hear. But when you go to YouTube, you'll see a certain amount.

Speaker 2:

You should split it like Patreon type shit, because there's a lot of things that you can't actually see on YouTube. No, no, no, on YouTube.

Jesse:

But I'm saying on podcasts, we'll be able to look, you could just go.

Speaker 2:

Well, there will be a full video with as much as we can put on.

Jesse:

But audio, you're gonna get this whole thing, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2:

And use your imagination.

Jesse:

And then yes, and then the video gets a good one. I guess it's not that big though. It's not yeah, dude. Yeah, a penguin, it fit a penguin. Was like I don't know. I have to, you know, he didn't even like take time to like get it prepared. Like I was like, dude, he was all like not just you didn't give a shit. Look at this floppy.

Tirzah:

Like he would literally, yeah, he would send me pictures all the time. Like, but that's how we like when I'm dating you, or if I'm into you, or if I'm and especially if I'm in love with you, I how I feel is that no matter what, you need to make your man happy, right? So, like, I would love that all the time. I love that. Like, I would send him nudes all the time, different ways. Like you know what I mean? Like, you have to keep your man excited.

Speaker 2:

Say it again. Say it again, please.

Tirzah:

You have to keep your man excited.

Speaker 2:

Yo, can we put some effects on that?

Jesse:

I'm going to. I'm gonna turn that shit. What is his name? Like, go drop the bomb on it and rewind.

Speaker 2:

Fucking confetti.

Tirzah:

Like you have to keep your mind wanted, like interested. Yeah, you know what I mean? It's because then relationships get boring.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they get stale, yeah. You get bored of the other person. It's happened to me before I get fucking hungry.

Jesse:

Oh my god.

Speaker 2:

That was so late, though.

Jesse:

Drop the problem and bring it back. What is his name? DJ, what's his name? DJ Song.

Speaker 2:

You did that so late though. She already said the thing. Anyway.

Tirzah:

All right, so I did everything for him. I thought we were buying a house, and then like shit started to shift, right? So once I started grilling him now, right? And because like, all right, it's been a year now. Like, like a year. So now it's two years in. Okay. So now it's two years in. We're not lived together yet.

Jesse:

Not yet.

Tirzah:

I I owe my landlord 14 grand.

Jesse:

Holy shit. Your landlord was generous for letting you just keep, you know, slot.

Tirzah:

I owe my landlord, right? And then like some titties. No, titties, dude.

Jesse:

I have some, but I need to push up prop. Sorry.

Tirzah:

So where it started to shift, like, was 4th of July.

JR:

Okay.

Tirzah:

So 4th of July, 4th of July night, but the night before 4th of July, so the 3rd, I slept at his house. He woke up. He's like, I'm going into work early, baby, so that I can get out in time to watch the fireworks with you. Okay. So I go, I get ready. I'm like, oh, I was still I was still sleeping. He goes to work, blah blah blah. I get ready. I go to Woodbridge because that's like where my kids' aunt and uncle are, and we do like all the holidays together. So I'm there, right? For some reason, I thought it was because we were in like Avenel that the like because we couldn't like text, but we were could talk on the phone. It was weird. So the last thing I knew was that we're gonna meet at 10 o'clock. Okay. So now I go home like at like seven, I would say. I take a nap and I wake up and it's like 10 20. I was like, oh shit. So I jump up and I'm like, all right, let me like meet him at his house. So as I'm driving, because his house hit the police station is only like five blocks away from my house. So as I'm driving, the fireworks start going off. So I thought it was cute, would be cute and romantic to okay. If he's working, he could just step outside and we can look up and watch the fireworks. Something cute. Like that's what couples do. So I go to his job.

Jesse:

It shouldn't be the guy's job. They're like thinking, like, oh, when she gets here, I'm gonna prepare something so that she, you know what I mean? She's doing like all the mailwork. It sounds like he's just fucking asking about dicks. Okay, go ahead. I'm a lucky idiot.

Tirzah:

So I go to his job. I can't see. So in like the police station, you can't see who's behind the window. It's black, you know? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So it was a girl and she was being a bitch. Like, and I was like, looking for Michael's. Oh, I think I was gonna say his last name.

Jesse:

Okay, you can say whatever you want. I can. It's not like it's false information.

Tirzah:

It's not, it's a true fact.

Jesse:

I have the I know you, it's not defamation. We're just talking facts here.

Tirzah:

So he's like, I asked for Michael Sheehan, and they're like, she's like, Who are you? And I'm like, his girlfriend. I was like, we had plans. She was like, he's not working, right? I was like, oh, I know for a fact that he's working, that he went in early today. And then so she says, hold on. She's like, Oh, I just got off the phone with his sergeant. He's on an assignment because he was a detective, right? So like he was Oh, he's a detective? Yeah, he's not a cup, he's a detective.

Jesse:

Okay.

Tirzah:

Street crimes, guns, and drugs. Sound around just.

Jesse:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, because she sent a picture of the guns, too. Like he's just sending her pictures of guns. You can't do that, dude. There's not a lot of I'm sorry.

Speaker 2:

Because our seats are getting juicy, expensive. Yeah, like you can't do that.

Tirzah:

He he broke all the rules as a detective. So, like, he so what happened? So I go to his house or whatever. Well, uh, she's like, Oh, he's on assignment, blah, blah, blah. So I go to his house, I go to sleep. He calls me, it was like 2 a.m., and he's like, baby, I'm so sorry. I was chasing this guy in Newark, blah, blah, blah. It was a lie. Of course it was.

Speaker 2:

So But you already knew he wasn't working though when he called me. No, like he said that shit, right?

Tirzah:

Well, the girl said, Oh, I talked to Sergeant, da-da, he's on an assignment. So I did believe it at first. Yeah, right?

Jesse:

And then wait, so she was in on the line too? Yeah. Okay.

Tirzah:

So his cat the captain, he always told me the captain wants to fuck him, but I don't know with him. Like, I literally. The captain's a woman. Yeah.

Jesse:

Okay.

Tirzah:

Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry, I've got it. Yeah, she's a woman.

Jesse:

So you know it's rare to see captains or like, you know what I mean? I'm sorry. That's true. You know, when you see a doctor, you usually think man, like right away. It's I'm sorry. Not me, but you know, well, my asshole self, I guess, because that's a joke when you say, like, oh, the doctor, you know that never mind. I'm not gonna get in there. Go ahead.

Tirzah:

So I'm sleeping, he calls me, says sorry, blah, blah, blah. And then he tells me, he's nice at first, like, I'm on my way home, baby. Da da da. And I was like, Yeah, I was concerned. And I like the fireworks were going off, so I went to your job. As soon as I said I went to your job, he lost his shit. And I couldn't understand why, right? Because he was like, You came to my job, drunk. I was like, No, I didn't. I was like, if I came to your job drunk, why would I be why wouldn't I be locked up then? Like I did not come to your job drunk. You're locked up.

Speaker 2:

Sounds like he was looking for an excuse to get mad at you. So that's what it was.

Tirzah:

We got into this huge fight for like four days. Like, he's like, they all think that you're coming to check up on me. I was like, I was actually just coming to be cute. Like Yeah, it's fourth of July. You know what I mean? Like, what? Like, we had plenty of things.

Speaker 2:

It wasn't just like a random thing.

Jesse:

And you don't do it's not like something you do often, just show up at the point of the house.

Tirzah:

I've never shown up at his job. I never looked through his phone, I never showed up at his house. Yeah, I wasn't psycho for once. That's a great I don't understand achievement. Like, I was like trying to have a healthy relationship. I thought I was going to be a wife. Like I thought I was going, I thought I was safe, right?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, of course.

Tirzah:

I thought I had a safe, secure relationship.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, you're not crazy for that though. I would have thought it. Shit.

Tirzah:

He manipulated me. Like, literally, mind fucked me, like emotionally, mentally. Like, I would like get to the point that like I couldn't even get out of bed. That's like how far he would push me. And it was like I still had hope, right? Because I loved him so much. But like it just once shit, I started realizing a pattern. Every Saturday night you get called in the work. Why is that?

Speaker 2:

Right now, this just started kind of happening, or this was happening like the whole time.

Tirzah:

No, it started like when I started to realize something was the summer. The summertime. But when you started years, it didn't happen.

Jesse:

When you started to realize it, you realized that like you were you're like, oh shit, it could have been happening for longer.

Tirzah:

Yeah, I'm like, well, on Sundays, I realized too, like, he always got called into work on Sunday. So like this girl was in college.

Jesse:

Yeah.

Tirzah:

So like he probably was going up to see her at the end. How did you find out about the girl? Okay, so we had plans, right? So, like I said, so I was we were rough since July 4th. We were still making things work, blah blah blah. He I switched my kids' school into his district. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, he told and like this was all agreed. He watched me pack up my house. Like, literally, he watched me, watched me throw out half of my belongings into the trash. And he knew the whole time that it was never happening. But he'll he was so it's like some addict shit. Like, you know what I mean?

Jesse:

Like, I'll just like I'll steal your wallet and help you look for that type of shit.

Tirzah:

And telling me you had lung cancer. It was always poor him, or like, oh, I got shot at at work, my car got like it was always some crazy wild story. And because of his job, mom is candy, you did not get shot at at work.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry, dude. Well, he could get away with it though, because you can just assume that that's a police.

Tirzah:

Yeah, like I want to. No one likes him because he's a detective. He could he put people away for a long time. I know he would tell me facts about rape cases, about seeing that's not like he would tell me he was sharing like top secret information. Details he went to freaking Virginia with his partner to get up to get a cell phone from uh that had child pornography on it. Like I know so much shit.

Jesse:

And I'm like, so JR, you know, you know more about the law than I do, right? Is that is that legal? Like to share like information about from an open case automatically that's not legal.

Speaker 2:

It's not legal, right?

Tirzah:

The trial, like I tested him on the trial stuff that was he was gonna be questioned on.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that in itself is also illegal because that you know is a government test that you actually have to go through a certain amount of steps to be able to take. So, you know, he's divulging information that he probably signed an MDA for, just saying, because cops signed NDAs for a lot of shit.

Tirzah:

Yeah, yeah, and you can't be you definitely And I know like the the names of the people and the girl and the I I know like it's crazy, like Dominican. It's it's such and then I don't know, everything was crazy, and then how I found out so we had plans right now. It's September.

Jesse:

All right, so July, September now. Okay.

Tirzah:

Now it's like, yeah, now we're like rough, like I went to Puerto Rico in August. He ruined my trip the whole time because he so this one, so his sister is sick. That is a fact. Hold on one second, keep going, keep going. So his sister is sick, and he told me that he was there taking care of his sister, right? So I had a plan, I it was to I had a trip to Puerto Rico. So I go on my plane, the plane gets canceled. So they're like the flights out, don't aren't a lot to go to Puerto Rico. Like they don't have it's like once a day or twice a day or something, and that's it. So my flight got canceled, so I was like, all right, and I'm not going now. So I'm at the it was like 2 a.m. the flight got canceled. So the next morning I'm in bed and it says your flight's gonna be boarding in like three hours. I was like, oh shit, I might as well just go, so I guess. So I go. He I'm on the plane and he's like texting me, making me feel like complete shit, right? Because he's like, he's like, I just rushed back from Georgia.

Speaker 2:

Oh, he went to go pick you up, supposedly, because you thought your flight wasn't going.

Tirzah:

Yeah, well, I uh I came to surprise you when you're going to Puerto Rico. Like, bro, you were just in so-called Georgia with your sister, which you really were in Ireland with this bitch.

Speaker 2:

Oh, wow. Yeah. And you ended up finding out out later. Yeah, later.

Tirzah:

I didn't know this at the time, but he made me feel like complete shit. Like, you know, I can't do anything nice for you, this and that. And then like starting shit with me. Now, also during this time frame, he's expressing me to me that we're broke and that we need money, right?

Speaker 2:

Were you? And did he?

Tirzah:

Well, he like gave me like, I'm not gonna lie, like he gave me like 20 grand in like three years, but it's like six grand a year, like six and a half grand a year.

JR:

So not a lot, yeah.

Tirzah:

Like, yeah, you're my man, you make the money, like hello. Like, I mean, I try to pay for shit too, like, but he what that's one thing, like that's where he was good at is like he wouldn't let me pay for shit when we were to like you know out of the way.

Speaker 2:

That would give you more hope on the situation, but in in in hindsight, what you're saying about the manipulation, that's probably a tactic for you to not look into things as much.

Tirzah:

Yeah, he he tried to he tried to cover his tracks, yeah. But then we he would bitch saying then and then his like anger started to switch on to me that we're broke, and it's my fault. He would say, he would say, We're broke because of me, right? Because he gave me all his savings on like 20 grand your savings. Like you're you're a detective.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's crazy.

Tirzah:

But it was really because he was he was depending on other females on other females, but you didn't want to show you all that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so that too, most likely.

Tirzah:

Like he he made me feel like it was my fault. So he made it put the pressure on me that I needed to get us out of this hole. So he would now this is where it's how is it your job now, first of all? So this is why I'm saying this is coercion, right? So he would tell me, like, he and I have the text messages to prove that too. Is like he just like would be like, what you need to do is you need to unblock those old guys. You need to how much how fast can you make 20k? I literally have the messages like how fast can you make 20k? You're a fucking cop. And you're like you're a detective, and you're trying to get pimp me out, basically.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, pimp me out, yeah. Especially after he made you cut that off to begin with. So now he wants you to put in all this effort to get back to the place that you were at before. Correct. And that just makes him look more suspicious for the fact that you know, the argument that he really didn't want to be with you.

Tirzah:

Yeah, and I would say, like, baby, I love you so much. I don't want to live that life anymore.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't want to do that anymore. You're saying that you wanna don't want to live that life for him, you know, that would be like awe inspiring for me, you know what I mean? Like, if a female did that for me, that would mean a lot. But that I see where you're getting at with the manipulation. That's a lot. That's a lot to do with that. That would fuck me up.

Tirzah:

And there were stipulations to it too. It was like sick, right?

Speaker 2:

Stipulations, like he had some type of requirements, yeah.

Tirzah:

Like that, like if I went, if I so like briefly, right, I did what he said, you know, and but I had to see him before and after. What do you mean? And I wasn't allowed to shower.

Speaker 2:

Wait, what do you talk? What do you mean? So whenever she would go out to see these guys that were like taking care of before, he she would have to see him before she went to see them, and then after she went to see them, and she wasn't allowed to shower after she left, basically. So he was doing some weirdo contradiction shit going on.

Tirzah:

He had like complete control over me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's that's a lot.

Tirzah:

Like a like complete, like my I he's pushed me to the point that I thought I was gonna commit suicide. Honestly, like that's how yeah, like that's how far he pushed me.

Jesse:

You really were you really were in love with it.

Speaker 2:

Madame, that's crazy.

Tirzah:

And how and so it continued until when? So until so I don't do cheating, right? I don't I don't tolerate cheating. So, like that's why I say this isn't about like some people, like you know, I made the TikTok and shit about them, but like this isn't about cheating. I can deal with that, like, because once you cheat once, I'm done.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's an easy choice. Yeah, that's an easy decision.

Tirzah:

But this was deeper than that. This was so deep. I like, you know what I mean? You didn't you mess with my like my heart, my emotions, my finances, my kids.

Speaker 2:

Literally with everything.

Tirzah:

Yeah, exactly. And then made me like look like the bad guy to people, like, well, no, like you're the bad guy, yeah, you're the corrupt cop, like you're a piece of shit. Like, deadass, you're a piece of shit, Michael Sheen.

Jesse:

And you're good. Um got a little bit gay in you.

Tirzah:

Like for real, you like to get pegged.

Jesse:

I mean, come on, dude.

Tirzah:

But like for real, he does, and you like to like size up your cock next to others. Like, that's weirdo.

Jesse:

That is gay. That's yeah, that's very weird.

Tirzah:

And then he would get so upset. Like, you treat me like a cuck, like, bitch, you are a cock.

Jesse:

Like what? Yeah, I just love that text message. I'll pop it up on screen when I'm editing it. It says, like, it's just like his. Dick, and then it's like him talking, and then you just say one thing.

Tirzah:

Because I wasn't like, oh, so another thing, he would always say we read it too.

Jesse:

It just didn't sound like you even were in like into it. You were like, What? Because I kissed her.

Tirzah:

Yeah, because I was like, What?

Jesse:

Oh, yeah. And then he just kept going. I'm like, Yeah, you have no idea.

Tirzah:

Like, he was a like a menace. Like, he like he took shit on a whole nother level. And like, I try, like, he would daily, all day long, like send me shit off Reddit, like pornos and shit, right? And like he would be like, send me what you like back, blah blah blah. And I was about it, right? I was doing it.

Speaker 2:

But then gets uninteresting after a while. After a while, I'm like, yo, that's all you like.

Tirzah:

Like, yeah, like I don't need that shit. I got my own imagination. I don't need uh footage. Like I can do my shit myself.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Tirzah:

You know what I mean?

Speaker 2:

But it sounded like it sounded like he was just progressively spiraling into more like an insane.

Tirzah:

And then he wants to go to sex clubs and this and that. Like he was, and then he would get mad at me because I couldn't find people and like, oh, well, it's your job to do. This is what your you this is what you have to do. And like it just like became so crazy. And like, I'm like, no matter, I felt like no matter what I did, I it was like next level shit. It wasn't good enough.

Speaker 2:

It sounds like you just like unlocked something in him and it just kept growing up. It turned him into a monster. Yeah, and it just didn't turn out.

Jesse:

I I think yeah, like especially because he had power to begin with.

Speaker 2:

I feel like it was that beginning moment when you were so disappointed that probably like sat so deep with him that he it just changed him completely.

Tirzah:

Yeah, I mean, I was honest, I was like, yo, what the fuck was that? Because it was trash.

Speaker 2:

Like, you know what I mean? That scarred him for fucking life.

Jesse:

Dude, I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, I had one of the hottest chicks I've ever been with in my entire life. I don't even know how it happened, it just happened, you know what I mean? And like I got ghosted after like a week. But like I had sex with her in a in like a halfway house with three other dudes in the room, like, you know what I mean? And like I did I I couldn't do all everything I was trying to do. Like I couldn't pull out all the fucking moves. You know what I feel? Like, I I felt embarrassed. Like, because I'm I'm a gentleman, like, I didn't even know she would be comfortable doing that in front of like there's like it's a big room, yeah.

Tirzah:

Well it depends, like, I mean, like, I there's nothing wrong with like threesomes and stuff like that. No, I don't think so either. It has you have to be like when you're so when you're with your partner, so like it got to the point like where like when he wanted it kept pushing like for another threesome with a man or a girl or this, that and I was like, baby, like I think we need to work on us right now, yeah, and our relationship before we do that again. Yeah, but he would make me feel like complete shit.

Jesse:

See, wow, like you actually were like trying, yeah.

Speaker 2:

She was trying to grow and he was just trying to do sex stuff. Yeah, yeah.

Tirzah:

He was always knocking me. It was like just like, well, I dealt with this with you, but like you didn't have to.

JR:

Yeah.

Tirzah:

Like, no one told you to stay with me. No one I I give you like 300 outs. You I straight up told you, like, are you sure you want this so many fucking times? I changed my whole life to be with him. Yeah, I became broke to be with him.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he took it pretty far there.

Tirzah:

Like, and you just lied about cancer, this, that. And then the the week of me finding out about this bitch, right? So, like, now we I give him a threesome on a Friday night, right? And that's the picture I showed you where like he was at that naked, like in someone's house. Yeah, yeah.

Jesse:

So she did some detective work, dude. Like, I'm telling you. Fucking impressive. Yeah, like he had so many dick pics. He fucked up with the rug. Like, you could see a rug at the police station. He's taking the police station, and she found out about the rug. She was like, look, it's the same rug as the one that's like. She was right.

Speaker 2:

The rug is very unique.

Jesse:

That's a you will never find that rug until unless your grandma's house or something like that. That was built in the fucking 80s, 90s.

Tirzah:

His work car, you can see it's a Chevy. Oh, yeah, no, you could see.

Jesse:

Yeah, you could see that he was fucking in his work attire. Yeah, and doing yeah. Yeah. That's wild to me, guys. He did so much shit.

Tirzah:

Like he wouldn't like all the times, like, even just like like down the street from the police. Like, he had balls, like uh, like I said, outside the park. Like, that's where kids are. We I would freaking, you know, I mean, I did some shit like that.

Jesse:

It was like weird at that point. That is weird. I never thought, but there are kids there, but like at night, they're not kids. So I can't.

Tirzah:

I remember he'd be like, I remember the last like time that we was like in the car like that, and I remember he's like, baby, you're always gonna make me feel good like this. Like deadass. Like, you know, but we so the week of me finding out, so I had a threesome with him on a Friday night, right? Oh, okay. And then like two, so I saw so Saturday, he came, then Saturday came over. We chilled for a little bit. Because you got a great memory, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she was in love with him.

Jesse:

So you know, yeah, I know you remember the details.

Tirzah:

I know I have the city, I know he told me now his so his sister's sick, right? That lives in Georgia. He told me that she is sick, but he told me that her and her husband were fighting a lot. So from September 17th, I see I know the exact date. From September 17th, he told me that his sister was staying with him, okay, for a few weeks. So I and that she I couldn't go there because she had no hair, right? Because she was sick. So I understood that. Okay, all right. She doesn't want to see anyone. Okay, I get that. So then he was coming to my house. So, like I said, Friday we gave him three, so Saturday he came to my house. Monday he came to my house, Tuesday he came to my house, and then uh Thursday night we had plans, right? And I'm waiting for him. And like I also lost a lot of sleep because I was on his time, on his schedule. So, like, I would literally only sleep like three hours, two hours a night sometimes, just so I could spend time with him.

Speaker 2:

Really?

Tirzah:

Yes, I would get up, be a mom, take my kids to school, go to work. Yeah, you still had a life, like, and I would stay up until he wouldn't get home from work until one o'clock in the morning sometimes because he's a cop, like hello. So, like, I sacrificed everything to be with this man, literally, everything. And oh wow, I didn't just think about him getting tear.

Jesse:

No, don't get upset. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing is, all right, so all right.

Tirzah:

So the week so I'm waiting for him at my house. Okay, he tells me that his his payroll was $1,300 short. Okay. So he's like, I'm at the police station, I'm not leaving until I find get my money. And I'm like, but doesn't payroll have to like print that out? Yeah, right? He's like, no, I'm getting a personal check. So right then I was like, something's not right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that doesn't sound right. Especially at the police station.

Tirzah:

I'm a pop-up at his house for the first time. I never did this, right? So I go to his house. So I go to go to his house, I see three cars out front of his house, I see all the lights on, and his front door open with the screen shut. I start darting at the door. He sees me, he runs out, he starts pushing me out the way you fucking psycho. Get the fuck away, go home, tiers up. And I'm like, what are you talking about? Um, you're my man. And then I see this little bitch, and I'm like, who the fuck is this? Right? And like he's trying to stop me because he knows like I fight. Like, I'm not I'm not trying to fight. I don't like to fight, but I can't. I can handle myself. I because I used to fight men because they were abusers, you know.

Jesse:

Yeah, I yeah, I women have especially like women, pretty women have to be careful, yeah.

Tirzah:

So, but I wasn't trying to fight her to be. I wasn't mad at her because it's not her fault. Yeah, absolutely. So I get underneath his arms, I get into the house, and he's like, I haven't talked to this bitch for so long. Oh, wait, I forgot to mention something. So in September, right? Okay, so when he wanted me to like unblock these old people that were in my life, right, to get money for him and me, right? He said that we had to start talking on Telegram because of what we were talking about, because he's a cop.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Tirzah:

So I trusted that, right? Like, okay, well, we're talking about like stuff that's like really not illegal, right? So, like, okay, so when I got to his, so we were talking for like a month on Telegram.

Jesse:

Okay.

Tirzah:

So now I'm in front of her face, and I was like, he was like, She's a psycho, I haven't talked to her in so long, blah blah blah. And he she's like, Oh, this is who tears is like what?

Speaker 2:

Wait, he's saying that to her about you?

Tirzah:

He's saying to her that I haven't talked to her in so long, I haven't seen her in so long. It's saying that about you. About me.

Speaker 2:

Oh, wow.

Tirzah:

And I'm like, what are you talking? I just fucked you yesterday. What are you talking about? Like, like what?

Speaker 2:

So how that's crazy though that he's making excuses to her.

Tirzah:

Yes. So of course it's crazy. So I think what happened was like I was the main bitch, and then he found her, and then she became the main bitch. Like she was a side bitch, and then she he made her the main bitch. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Because like, she's a good girl.

Jesse:

Like, she's that's what I was gonna say. He can bring her home to his parents. Yep. Because I don't know, and like a way, I got I guess some guys' heads, it's like especially I'm tainted to him.

Tirzah:

I'm I have a record of that. That's what I meant.

Jesse:

And then, yeah, and then like all this other stuff. It was like you were like, what's that uh movie with I dudes like Man Rich, but like gray something?

Tirzah:

50 Shades of Grey. There you go.

Jesse:

I'm saying it's like that dude has like toy.

Tirzah:

That's what I was exactly about. It didn't have to get that deep. Yo, we could have been just stay fucking.

Jesse:

Yeah. And you would have been fine with it. That's cool. But just tell me.

Tirzah:

Yeah, but he let me fucking be so in love with me, and like that we're gonna be a happy family, that I was going to be a wife. He wanted me to get my tube sometime to have a kid. Oh my god.

Jesse:

Oh, wait, you have your tube side? Yeah. Oh, okay. All right. You're prepared. You are prepared. Thank you.

Tirzah:

So, like, he like played the shit on me, and then like I'm like showing her. So he had trial that day for the rape case.

Jesse:

How many cases that we could just throw out because of this motherfucker right now? I would love to, but I don't want any rapists getting on the street. That's the thing. But but if he's planting evidence, but he he's who knows?

Speaker 2:

I gotta charge my phone real quick before we take it.

Jesse:

Well, yeah, we're almost done. We're almost done. We're almost done.

Speaker 2:

I want to hear the whole story.

Jesse:

Well, no, we're gonna we're gonna continue this. This is gonna be a two-parter because this was just the introduction to who he is. Now we're gonna get into like the next episode. We're gonna get into the crazy shit. You know, like just give us a minute. We gotta get everything ready. As you can tell, I had some camera issues here, but cut it in post. Throw this on the charger for a bit. Yeah, it's right next to you, dude. It's on the floor. You see that like gray plug? There you go.

Speaker 2:

Stop it. You're gonna have to do a post on this. What? You're gonna have to do a post on this. Send it to me. I'll cut it.

Jesse:

No, dude, uh, yeah, it's fine. Audio is fine, it's just that I gotta get the cameras fucking because the cat one of the camera over eated, and I gotta switch them.

Speaker 2:

Dude. Yeah, so so so where are we at? Hold on. All right, so you pull up to the house, right? You see this bitch in the house. Yes. You see multiple cars in the house. Wait, it's a guy. I don't know who he owns. She's probably having another threesome. Okay, he likes the.

Tirzah:

I don't know, because like she's like very vanilla, like, and then so I'm arguing with her, and she's like, and I had like, yo, I took sleep meds that night. So, like, you know, sleep meds can be like cotton mouth. So like I'm like trying to like freak out with a dry ass mouth.

Jesse:

And it's like the dry mouth has fucked me over so many times. For real.

Speaker 2:

I gotta you look you try to look tough and you just look crazy. Bro, be on a date.

Tirzah:

I was in fucking Halloween pajamas. I was in fucking Halloween pajamas, yo. Yes, Halloween pajamas, and fucking scared.

Speaker 2:

Gina.

Tirzah:

Yo, I was like, yo, and I'm like, yo, who the fuck is this bitch? And then like he was shaking.

Speaker 2:

So like how did it, how did it unfold?

Tirzah:

So he was like telling her, he's like, if if she doesn't get the fuck out of my house, I'm fucking leaving. I was like, are you serious?

Speaker 2:

You're talking, he's talking about you.

Tirzah:

Yes, and I'm like, bro. I was like, so then he like, so he had like, I got him pictures and all kinds of so many like custom-made things for like gifts and stuff. I got him like the Jets Eagle, Jets, the Jets tickets for football. We went to that before too.

Jesse:

Make sure he's moving right so you can talk. Okay.

Tirzah:

So I am like point I can't I take out Telegram and I was like, oh, you haven't talked to me in so long? Look, this is him in his suit today for trial, right? You saw him leave the house today in this, huh? So it was really not his sister staying with him. It was this bitch. She goes, I live here.

Speaker 2:

What? Oh, wow.

Tirzah:

So this bitch has lived in this house for three weeks now, and you've been fucking me and seeing me and making me think that.

Jesse:

What happened to your wait, what happened to your draws? You didn't you have draws? He like you had a couple draws in his house.

Tirzah:

Yeah, we so this is so we got into like a huge ass fight. Ah, well, you took everything away. He calculated everything. Yeah, man. Manipulated motherfucker. Like he fucking is so sick. Oh, like how much of the calculus, like, bro, why? Like, we could have been good. Just fucking I don't understand the levels of how deep it went. Like it for no reason. You ruined three years of my life, right? Like, I I finally thought I was safe. I thought I was happy, I thought I was gonna be a wife, I thought I was gonna have a family, and like you took all of that away from me.

Speaker 2:

So let me ask you, do you think when he told you to stop talking to these guys, it was him trying to undo the closeness that you guys had built? Like for him to try to basically like open it up to now he has this bitch. You know what I mean? I I know you probably didn't think of that, but it sounds like to me, like he was trying to manipulate the situation before the situation was even manipulated. Oh, he had to have been thinking about it.

Tirzah:

He man he, I I don't honestly, I I still don't know his thinking because like he wouldn't we would fight, right? About like my past shit. He would always throw into my face all the fucking time.

Jesse:

And like he wasn't physical at any point. No, he was never physical.

Tirzah:

He was just like he knew how to make me cry my eyes out.

Jesse:

Oh, absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tirzah:

And like no man does that usually to me.

Speaker 2:

Like, I was like, I can't see your little you have tough skin. Well, now you're in love, so it's a little bit different. Absolutely.

Tirzah:

And it was like, and and I fell like in love with everything about him. And it when he was funny, like he always like would talk shit though, and like he would joke around and be like, yeah, like to our friend, like, yeah, when we get home, I'm gonna beat her. Like he would joke around like that and stuff, you know?

Speaker 2:

Like red flag.

Tirzah:

That's like orange flags. And like black flags, like he we and he had me hidden too, like, which I didn't realize either. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, we always went to like because we would always argue about this, too. I'm like, yo, if you love me, right? You want to marry me? Why haven't I met your family?

Jesse:

I should have first thing, man.

Tirzah:

Yeah, and it would be do you understand my sister's fucking sick and it ruined our fucking family, and your sister's all the way over here. And it's not because well his mom started like like moved to Georgia to like left her husband, which is his dad, to like take care of the sister, so it like caused his bitch ruckus, ruckus. Because his brother also is a detective, right? Okay, so they're both detectives in Kingsburg. And yeah, but apparently his brother is a good guy because I actually knew his brother before him.

Jesse:

How old is his brother like compared to him?

Tirzah:

37, like two years older than him. Okay, and his wife.

Jesse:

He should have fucked his brother.

Tirzah:

No, his brother's married and has triplets. Yeah, so like, but I'm just trying to figure things out, you know. But his brother always helped me with getting my ex out of the house when he was on drugs, like, always helped me. So he's always kind to me. So, like, and then this happened, and like he made me feel like everyone knew about us. That and like I'd always say, I'm like, what am I, your dirty little secret?

Speaker 2:

Sounds like yeah, yeah.

Tirzah:

And like he would always make me feel like shit that I would I felt that way, but you make me feel that way. And he would manipulate me and like make me feel like he'd be like, Look what everything I fucking do. I just work 16 hours for you when you're fucking.

Speaker 2:

Maybe you he made you feel like a wife, so you want to act like a wife. Doesn't that make fun of it? I know, and that's what I'm saying.

Jesse:

Like, she's like the one girl I could say, like, Oh, I can't even fucking get it. She's doing fine anything you want to do, and she's also being wifey material. Like art's crazy. It's fucking so hard to find out. I wasn't expecting you to pull out the wifey material. I'm sorry. I wasn't. It's a beautiful thing.

Tirzah:

I deadass wanted to marry him. Like, I wanted to be a wife to him, I wanted to be with him for the rest of my life.

Speaker 2:

Like, that's changed everything about yourself to do that, and then he fucking like that's crazy, bro. That's unbelievable. And you would have been cool with just fucking. Yeah.

Tirzah:

I don't think.

Speaker 2:

That is what blows my fucking way.

Jesse:

No, fuck that, because so many exes like, you know what? This ex is so good. Regardless, even if we break up, we'll just always be fuck buddies. That never happens.

Tirzah:

But nobody we like we never had to be together. We weren't even committed for the first year. No, I know. You're good, but the girls would tell me that. And like fuck them all. It was just psycho. And like, I he literally denied everything and like he deleted the whole telegram because like when you are on Telegram, you can delete, I can delete our whole telegram. Oh, I know, it's like a Snapchat type of thing. He did right when I was in front of her, right? So, but the thing is, like, yo, I got screenshots and dates and times of everything.

Speaker 2:

Backup plane.

Jesse:

So I sent her like you got the fucking pin location of where he was when he took the fucking picture.

Speaker 2:

That's great. That's good. That's good work, right?

Jesse:

That's good work. He didn't even know how to delete the metadata. JR would have JR would have pinpointed that shit regardless.

Speaker 2:

He would have went, Me, oh yeah.

Jesse:

He's a hacker. So, like, not a hacker in like that sense, but like he knows how to like. That's what I'm gonna do. No, I don't mean when I say hacker, when I my term of hacker is like you're being able to like go into a computer's terminal and like work itself within the that's what I say when I hacker. Like, I don't mean like I mean like, oh dude, he can go in a terminal. Like, I don't know what this is. Don't I talk about the terminal? I'm looking at it like I'm like, try to protect his job, though.

Tirzah:

Listen to how like sick. This is also why I'm coming for him, to be honest.

Jesse:

So, right, this is what I want to say. Where this is gonna be the episode of how she met and how they left. The next episode, if you're willing, you know, in a week or two, because we're gonna edit this one, get everything ready, because I had a couple of complications. The next episode is gonna be all messages that you have, and we're gonna pull them up on screen. Yes, read them, and talk about how that happened. If that's cool.

Speaker 2:

So this is gonna be like an intro.

Jesse:

Yes, this is the intro to like what's coming with the receipts. You want receipts?

Speaker 2:

She was gonna tell us the reason why she's coming. I know. I just wanted to tell her like that this is where we're gonna go. Don't don't go too far.

Tirzah:

The top reason why, though, is that I'm coming for him is because as a law officer, right? If somebody reports something to you, you're supposed to report it, okay? So the last week of us, some shit happened when I was out, my drink got spiked, some shit happened, blah, blah, blah. I told him about it, right? And he made me feel like it was my fault. He said that he did his own investigation and looked at the camera footage on the street, which one you're not supposed to do.

Jesse:

Yeah, I know I actually asked him. He said that that's not if you're doing your own thing inside, especially on police time, you can't be doing it.

Tirzah:

And he made me feel like it was my fault when I have no recollection of anything, and it wasn't my fault.

Jesse:

And because later we fit found out that it really was something that happened. Because, yeah, some shit, yeah.

Tirzah:

So, but I would have never agreed to that. And but because he did not want his police station to know about me, he covered the whole thing. He covered the whole thing up.

Jesse:

Wow. And that's why he that yeah, and that's a serious situation. Because it didn't, yeah, it didn't just involve her, it involved other people. So you can't just do that. Like you can't just push that to the side. And just because she's your you're his girl, say that he had to so supposed girl coming.

Speaker 2:

Let's be serious.

Jesse:

Yeah, yeah. Is the the fake. I'm so sorry to call it. That feels so bad. Like, you know what I mean? I mean it's a shitty thing to say. You know what I mean? Yeah, that sucks.

Tirzah:

I had to like process everything, and then like since that, and then I became single, and then like I'm not gonna lie, like I like I said earlier, like I was whiling out at first, trying to like not buy drugs.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know, you were doing no though, that wasn't your fault.

Tirzah:

Yeah, you were going out trying just to like distract myself. Oh, yeah, it's better sitting at home sitting in your life.

Speaker 2:

Like what you did was something like pretty big as far as I'm concerned, like changing your life. For a man. No, right. I wasn't expecting that. I didn't hear any of that. For somebody that that is asking you to do that, like not many girls are willing to do that.

Jesse:

Honestly, before I went to prison was before COVID. That was the like I had every girl I had was like that. Like for some reason, I don't know why. It was just like they anything that I it was like that. You know what I mean? And I was the manipulator system I was using. Yeah. So like I don't understand how I got it to that level, but like after COVID, it just seemed like everything when I got out of prison, like everything changed when it came to like relationship between a man and a woman. It's like I don't know. It's like women expect so much more now.

Tirzah:

Oh, they do, they do. But like I but how I am, like, I am a child.

Jesse:

You don't seem that kind of person. I felt yeah, you went above and beyond that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You had your shit already. You were doing your thing prior to that.

Tirzah:

My life was accomplished without him.

Jesse:

That's what I'm saying.

Tirzah:

He brought it down.

Speaker 2:

He brought it down.

Jesse:

It wasn't like, yeah, it wasn't like you found somebody that you already had some your your you know, the money. You already had those situations.

Speaker 2:

The least he could do was was follow through with that promise because he he was the one that took it to that point. Yeah. Yeah.

Jesse:

And then he wanted to change afterwards and ask you to start making money for him because he's not making money.

Tirzah:

He was like, we need to get out of debt. You how fast can you make 20 grand? How fast can you make 50 grand?

Jesse:

See, that's the way we get in the text message. That's what we're doing. Yeah, that's what I want to pull up from Bluetooth.

Tirzah:

Like, you're a fucking cop, bro. And like I'm I'm supposed to be the love of your life. Why would you want me to do that again? Yeah, like that doesn't make sense. And like we would get into arguments, or like, or I would say, and he would get mad at me because of how I'd word things like, why would you want to see me with another guy? Like, he would be like, What I'm what do you think? I'm a fucking cuck. Like, you like it. Like, I'm just asking.

Jesse:

The text message of a man said if someone, the guy's dick was bigger than his.

Tirzah:

I have I have the pen pudding, the both his dick and the other guy.

Jesse:

See, that's why I want to get too far. I want to just show it all. No, we'll get there. We'll get there. So that's what you're gonna do. It'll be more organized.

Speaker 2:

But I just want to, you know, give her kudos for doing that because I've asked for that of girls, and no matter how much amazing sex I give them or whatever, or fucking come with all the gifts in the universe, I still don't get that. You know what I mean? Yeah, so not every girl is willing to do that, no matter how much in love they claim to be.

Jesse:

Yeah, the only ones that have, I told you, we're younger too. It was like a human.

Speaker 2:

I feel like should be so much more appreciative, especially not with some manipulating shit like that. That's crazy.

Tirzah:

I adored him. I did. I wanted to fail. Like I was willing to have a kid, like I already have kids.

Jesse:

And you're willing to untie go through another surgery.

Tirzah:

Yes, and have a kid with him.

Jesse:

Another traumatic experience, as far as I'm concerned. I just can't, I don't know. Well, all I gotta say is before we before we end this episode, just want to say like his loss, very seriously.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely.

Jesse:

His loss. I agree with you. And I hope you're ready for what's coming, Mr. Michael, because we got some shit planned for you, sir. Because we don't fuck with cops, but she does. She fucks them. And we're about to fuck one. All right. My first time fucking a cop, and I can't wait.

JR:

Yes.

Jesse:

All right, so thank you for coming, Tierza. All right, we're gonna start this shit off. And next week, next couple weeks, you gotta give us some time to get this shit together. Three years of text messages. Yes.

Speaker 2:

Oh my god, this could be a good one. This is gonna be a good one. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. This one, yeah. It's gonna be a lot of receipts.

Jesse:

I had it organized. I didn't realize that a light was gonna be in front of me. I put shit in the I had to I haven't had three people yet.

Speaker 2:

So I mean I've but you know, I'm glad you have the the the the enough braveness in you to come forward and a lot of a lot of because I found out like a lot of stuff after too, like because I put up the TikToks, right?

Tirzah:

I found out about a third girl too. Yeah, and she said that she's had to do two years of therapy said to him. Ah, that's what he's doing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, do you think this was happening all the time?

Tirzah:

Like, well, she told me that she was fucking with him from like 2022 to 2024, and I was fucking him from like 2022 to like like.

Speaker 2:

Oh, so it was from the very start. He was already fucking.

Tirzah:

And like she was like, and it was for like some like like bland ass shit. She was like, Yeah, I never like he asked me to suck his dick in the work or I said no. He fucked he asked to fuck me in the worker. I didn't, but he asked if I could if he could come on my face. I won it. I'm like, wait, what? Like you're cheating on me with a plain ass bitch? Yo, that bitch before. Like what? Like the but the thing I'm thinking of that like because like yo, if you're cheating on me with that many people and I'm giving you everything you want, and like I'm not trying to like talk like like highly of myself, but I know I am good in bed, and like so if you're cheating on me for plain ass shit, obviously you got some fruitness to you.

JR:

Hell yeah!

Tirzah:

Like, and you like to get pets, so like come on, and it kind of makes sense. Maybe you're trying to cover up of who you really are.

Jesse:

Yeah, you're gay. No, sorry. I think so. No, I think so. I think so.

Tirzah:

I mean, if you're gay, it's okay.

Jesse:

I mean, and can I ask you a question? Because you I know you'll be honest about it. How did the girl how was she pretty? The girl that you saw at his house? Come like, you know what I mean?

Tirzah:

Yeah, I mean, yeah, I have pictures of her too. She's young, she's like fit, like like more fit, like fit than me. Like, I'm not fit.

Jesse:

Like, she's fit, like oh, she works at like works out. I don't like this expectative.

Tirzah:

Yeah, she's like no, like I mean, flat chested, no titties, but like nice flat stomach, no body, no butt.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, she's like a yoga girl.

Tirzah:

Yeah, she wasn't, she taught yoga. Okay, well, she did like uh so but she also she works at the freehold courthouse. So, like when I put the TikToks out, like everyone apparently was like talking about it and like sharing it.

Jesse:

Yeah, so we're gonna start the next episode with that, take with the t with a couple TikToks. That's perfect. Exactly. So we're gonna start the episode off with the TikToks, and then we're gonna I'll go into the text messages. So, all right, I don't want this camera to overheat again because we already are putting too much heat in there. So, thank you very much for coming. We're gonna do this again coming. Oh my god, pause. Thank you for being here.

JR:

No problem, and we'll see you next time.

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