Growing Tall Poppies : Thrive After Trauma

Stop Looking Outside Yourself: Soul Language, Self-Trust and the Hidden Patterns Keeping You Stuck with Jennifer Urezzio

Dr Natalie Green Season 3 Episode 109

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What if the answers you've been searching for aren't outside of you at all?

In this deeply insightful conversation, Dr Nat Green is joined by Jennifer Urezzio, founder of Soul Language®, intuitive strategist, and self-described "soul whisperer and BS incinerator."

Together, they explore the powerful connection between trauma, self-trust, intuition, and authentic expression—and why so many of us become trapped looking for answers externally while ignoring the wisdom already within us.

Jennifer shares her own journey of learning to stop dismissing life's wake-up calls, embrace her authentic nature, and trust the deeper guidance available through conscious connection with the soul.

This episode is a powerful reminder that healing isn't about becoming someone else—it's about remembering who you've always been.

In This Episode We Explore:

✨ Why so many people become trapped in the endless search for "how"

✨ The relationship between trauma, self-trust, and intuition

✨ What it really means to trust yourself

✨ Why ignoring red flags often leads to repeating painful patterns

✨ The subtle forms of trauma that often go unrecognised

✨ How people-pleasing and self-abandonment disconnect us from our authentic selves

✨ The difference between accepting yourself and trying to fix yourself

✨ Jennifer's "Relationship House" model for creating healthy boundaries

✨ Why healing is a marathon, not a one-time breakthrough

✨ How Soul Language® helps people reconnect with their inner truth and purpose

✨ The importance of courage, integrity, self-compassion, and acceptance in post-traumatic growth

Memorable Quotes From This Episode

"What you don't trust is taking action on what you already know."

"You were never broken. You were always whole and complete."

"If I knew I was whole and complete, what would I say, do, and be today?"

"Sometimes we're so busy looking for the reason that we miss the change."

"Healing isn't a destination. It's a series of choices we continue to make."

"The universe bends towards authenticity."


About Jennifer Urezzio

Jennifer Urezzio is the founder of Soul Language®, an intuitive framework designed to help people reconnect with their inner truth, purpose, and authentic expression. Through her work, she helps individuals understand how they are using their energy, strengthen their connection to their soul, and create lives and businesses that are aligned with who they truly are.

Connect with Jennifer

🌐 Website: Soul Language

🎙️ Podcast: Asked and Answered by Soul

Instagram https://www.instagram.com/soullanguagefounder/

📚 Substack: Jennifer Urezzio Substack

Podcast Episode mentioned :- Your Relationship House : The Key To Clarity And Boundaries  


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Dr Nat Green

Welcome to Growing Tall Poppies, Thrive After Trauma. I'm your host, Dr. Nat Green, and I am so excited to have you join me as we discuss what it means to navigate your way through trauma or significant challenges, and not just survive, but to thrive after it. This is a space for people who've been through trauma or adversity, have done some healing, and know they're meant for more than just coping. This podcast is about post-traumatic growth, not getting back to who you used to be. Rather, understanding who you are now and learning how to stand tall without shrinking, forcing, or abandoning yourself. Here, we explore identity after adversity, integrity and visibility wounds, nervous system wisdom, and what it really takes to move forward in a way that feels aligned, embodied, and true. You will hear a blend of deep solo conversations and powerful guest interviews with people who have lived this work, not just studied it. Because growth doesn't come from pushing harder. It comes from understanding how you adapted, honoring your nervous system, and gently updating the old agreements that no longer fit the life you're ready to live. If you're ready to stop hiding, stop performing, and start owning who you are becoming, then you are in the right place. Let's grow tall together I'm super excited today to bring you our next guest on the Growing Tall Poppies podcast. It is my absolute pleasure to welcome one of the most wonderful ladies who I've gotten to know over only the past year, but it feels like a very long time already. And each time we connect, I learn so much more about her and the amazing work she does. So let me introduce, today's guest brings a very unique and deeply intuitive perspective to personal growth, spirituality, and self-understanding. Jennifer Urezzio is the founder of Soul Language, a transformational approach designed to help people reconnect with their inner truth, intuition, and authentic expression. She describes herself as a soul-whispering, BS-incinerating, and we love that, divine code breaker who moonlights as an intuitive strategist, but secretly operates as a full-time interdimensional translator for your soul's deepest truth. So welcome, Jennifer. It's wonderful to have you here.

Jennifer Urezzio

Thank you so much. I'm so excited to be here. I turned off my mic because the dogs went crazy. I think the UPS man is here, so.

Dr Nat Green

Oh.

Jennifer Urezzio

I'm already part of Australia because I have a- have Australian blue heelers, so-

Dr Nat Green

Woo-hoo

Jennifer Urezzio

I'm very well-versed. Oh my God, they're crazy dogs.

Dr Nat Green

Yes, we have crazy dogs here in this house as well, oh, well, I would love if you could start with giving us a brief introduction of, of who you really are and what you do in the world.

Jennifer Urezzio

Hmm. Thank you. So who I really am, I would classify myself as a warrior, as a person who speaks truth, sometimes compassionately, sometimes not. Uh, and what I do in the world is really help people understand where they're blocking themselves by using their energy inappropriately, and to start to use their energy consciously from a place of wholeness and completeness, and then that reflects in every aspect of their lives, including their business. I'm really good at teaching people how to co-create with the how and stop being, um, in the kind of consciousness of the how or the unconsciousness of the how really. Um, how do we do this, and how do we get this, and blah, like the circle, the wheel, uh, and really understand manifestation from the internal and external action process.

Dr Nat Green

Oh, I love that, and you described it so much better than I could about what you do. I, 'cause so many times the people that I work with, and I know the people you work with, really get stuck in that how. How do we do it? They want the answers constantly. Oh. And, you know, that's this never-ending loop, isn't it? We get stuck in our head and, and that's not helpful for anyone.

Jennifer Urezzio

Well, a- and yes, and it's not just, you know, about stuck in your head, it's about, you know, you are trying to do your life through the reflection of external. And when we try to do that, we're gonna get stuck in limiting beliefs and programming. We're not gonna be able to hear our divine guidance, our source, our compass of which way to go and what to say and what to do from a place of power and consciousness versus a place of s- you know, our, and I mean this with great love for ourselves, our pea brain perspective, right? Yeah. That is looped in that trauma, that's looped in our pain, that's looped in our programming, um, that it wants us, keeps us in the illusion of safety, which really means in pattern and in smallness.

Dr Nat Green

Mm. Yes, definitely. And how often do we see when someone's been through trauma or some sort of adversity that one of their three brains, and I know that, you know, the pea brain up here, but the heart brain and the gut brain, at least one, but usually two, the heart and the gut get disconnected, so we stop trusting ourselves, and that's where that looping in the how really comes in, doesn't it?

Jennifer Urezzio

Yeah, and I think, you know, trust is an active participation, and I think people start with like, "I don't trust myself." And I'm like, "Okay, but you don't... What you don't trust is taking action on what you know," right? What you don't trust is you saw the red flags, right? You got hit by the two-by-four. Mm. And I have literally been hit by a two-by-four, right? Mm. Right? You've gotten, and I'm using the word literally correctly, like bam, right? Yeah. Two-by-four, right? And you took action anyway. And so, and I see this all the time in relationships of any kind, right?

Dr Nat Green

Mm.

Jennifer Urezzio

Like, you saw the red flags, but you vetoed them. You dated this, the, what you could see inside. You dated the soul. You dated, you know, what you knew to be true inside. But that's not what they showed you, and then you're like, "Well, I shouldn't have trusted myself. I thought I could trust myself." Mm. No, 'cause you were dating the goo, or you were in business with a goo. And you have to be in business, you have to be in relationship with their expression, not their goo.

Dr Nat Green

Mm. Yes. Nailed it, I think. And how many times do people show us what they want to show us, not the reality? So how, how does someone actually see through that and know what's really there?

Jennifer Urezzio

I think the first step is being in a conscious connection with their soul, right?

Dr Nat Green

Mm-hmm.

Jennifer Urezzio

It's talking to that part that's never been heard, that knows you're whole and complete, that wants the best of you, for you, and through you. And by really understanding the information, the insight, the guidance that your soul and your body is showing you, and then building up a relationship of trust, of lab experiments, taking action on that. Um, and I always tell people if this... You're new to this, start with this question.

Dr Nat Green

Mm.

Jennifer Urezzio

What do I need to know today? Make some notes. Go back at the end of the day and go, "Oh, I I saw an umbrella, and then it rained, but I didn't take the umbrella because I thought that was stupid and I didn't understand it," right? Like, make it a lab experiment, make it a game versus making it in a life and death situation.

Dr Nat Green

Great tip. Absolutely. Mm-hmm. Because I think, yeah, that, like you said, we miss all those little red flags and all those things that are there because it may not fit the narrative we want, and so we dismiss, dismiss, dismiss. So I'm just wondering, there's a couple of things that came up for me as you were talking then, and as our listeners know, that most of the guests that I get on our show have experienced some sort of trauma or adversity. And you mentioned literally being hit by, you said a two-by-four. Over here in Australia- Yeah I always say a four-by-two, but it's the same thing. You got hit with something huge that whacked you. So I would love for you to share a little bit about your breakdown, breakthrough journey and, and what's happened for you.

Jennifer Urezzio

Yeah, I, you know, it's really funny 'cause I was walking, I was It was, uh, 20, 30 years ago, right? Over 30 years ago. Mm-hmm. Walking down the street, doo, doo, doo, doo, a New York City street, and all of a sudden I go like this, and I was like, "Oh, that really hurt." And this con- contractor with a giant 4x2, he goes, "Oh my God, I'm so sorry." I mean, literally whacked. And- Wow I just went on with my day. Just went on with my day. And I was like, "I have a little headache," doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, right? But going There's several stories- where something happens and I go, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, just gonna go on with my day. Um, back, same timeframe, I also got hit by a car going The car, the taxi was going 55 miles an hour. I was crossing the street- Uh-huh at the US Open, and my friend who was on the other side said, "Looked like you were picked up, put down, and dropped," right? "And put on your feet." And all I had, I had a bruise, but, uh, you could see the taillight cover come off of my legs, right?

Dr Nat Green

Oh my goodness.

Jennifer Urezzio

Like, yeah. And I had a bruise, right? So- And I, I'm in the ambulance going, all of a sudden I got hit by a car, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo. Let's go on, right? Let's go about our business. But I think that in itself is a testament to, wow, things happen and I just go, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo. Mm. Let's go on, right? And then-

Dr Nat Green

Yes

Jennifer Urezzio

it suddenly hits me, like, wow, that was really big. I didn't even pause. I didn't even- Mm right? So there's always this delayed reaction. And I think my most traumatic experiences have been about my essential nature, right? Like- Why are you so defensive? Why are you so demanding? Why do you always tell the truth? Why can't you use a better tone? Like, really, I asked for a pen. What are you talking about, right? Mm-hmm. But that disconnect of what people think I should be or what people want me to be and who I am- Yes right? Uh, I mean, that was my earlier part of my life, where people now are like, "What do you mean you got into a bar fight? What do you mean you're angry," right? Like, because I processed it and I'm not fighting the world and myself at the same time. Mm. Right? The- Yes you should be more demure, right, was a internal fight that was being expressed externally.

Dr Nat Green

Yes.

Jennifer Urezzio

And I think when you're subtly or not too subtly, um, told you should be one way- Mm-hmm and inside you're trying to fix that way, and you don't understand why you need to fix it, um, it can lead to a lot of challenges, a lot of saying yes when you mean no. Mm-hmm. A lot of doing things to fit in or to be loved, and I think that's kind of my trauma history, right? Yay. Taking that, of trying to be a round box square and a square box round. Mm. And then finally going, "I don't really care if I fit in." Mm. Like, the universe is gonna bend towards me in the best possible way. You're gonna like me or you're not, you're gonna get on my bus or not. And if you don't, that's okay, but I'm gonna love or have a willingness to love and accept myself even if you don't.

Dr Nat Green

Mm.

Jennifer Urezzio

And I think, I think that is a subtle trauma, but it's a big impact trauma- Yes because I think, um, we don't count it as trauma. Because

Dr Nat Green

it's subtle- Yes

Jennifer Urezzio

and it's sneaky.

Dr Nat Green

And that's what I see so much, people, you know, for the 35 years working with people in trauma. If, if it wasn't a big trauma that other people recognized as a big trauma, they would discount it and dismiss it. And exactly as you've just said, you kept dismissing what happened and, and ignoring what happened until you recognized that you couldn't keep doing that, that we can't keep dulling ourselves down to fit in other people's expectations. And I imagine that- Yeah.

Jennifer Urezzio

And... Go ahead. Sorry. You

Dr Nat Green

go ahead. Oh, sorry. I imagine that didn't just happen overnight, that suddenly you could recognize that, hang on, I got a voice that needs to be heard and I'm not gonna be quiet anymore. So how did that happen?

Jennifer Urezzio

Yeah. A- and I was... Technically I was never quiet, right? Like, I was the kid that her father said, "You know, you sure respect your elders," and I said, "When they earn it." Like, I was that kid, right? Yep. Do you want me... They wanna... Like, they need to earn my respect. I'm not handing it over to these clowns, right?

Dr Nat Green

Exactly.

Jennifer Urezzio

But I think... Right? But I think still, even in that outspokenness, there was a part of me that went, "Well, why can't I be that?" Like, why, why can't I be that? Why- Mm-hmm there must be something wrong with me. And I think it wasn't a slow process and, and even now, I... Something will happen sneaky and I went, "Oh, there it is again. There's that feeling," right? Like, oh.

Dr Nat Green

Yeah.

Jennifer Urezzio

And I think the pursuit of that was I no longer... I knew that there was something bigger inside of me, and I no longer wanted to pursue anything that would make me cry at my desk. Mm-hmm. I mean, that's really what happened. Like, oh my God, I, like, I can't breathe, and these people, like, what I'm doing makes me cry at my desk, and I'm really good at it, but I have to keep fighting, and I wanna do something bigger. And, and I, I remember coming off the stage talking about life purpose and essential oils, and I was still at that time do- still doing some public relations, uh, freelance work. And I remember coming off the stage, people lined up to talk to me. Mm-hmm. Like, just lined up.

Dr Nat Green

Wow.

Jennifer Urezzio

Can you tell me about this? Can you tell me about... And I'm like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah." And I did clients there, and I took clients home from the conference, and I thought- Okay

Dr Nat Green

Mm.

Jennifer Urezzio

Like, this feels better than crying at my desk. Like, this, this feels better. And that was a huge thing to understand that I didn't have to settle. Mm. I didn't have to be prepared to or accept breadcrumbs. Like, I, I could have the whole bread if I wanted to. Yeah. But I would have to decide to accept it, and then I would have to align with it, and I would have to be willing to have those, the courage about- Saying no to those things that didn't align with what I truly wanted to experience. And that's an ongoing process, don't get me wrong.

Dr Nat Green

Yeah. Yeah, that's- Mm-hmm that's something that many of us will continue, that we're never there. We're always a work in progress, and it's always a journey, isn't it? But yes, recognizing that within yourself, that you could have the whole bread, not just the breadcrumbs, what did that do for you when you had that realization?

Jennifer Urezzio

I think I stopped trying to make war to get what I wanted.

Dr Nat Green

Mm-hmm.

Jennifer Urezzio

Like, I stopped trying to fight for things I wanted from people who You know, the saying is, "I stopped trying to get blood from a stone," right? Yeah. Like, I stopped doing that. Um, it also allowed me to really start getting paid to tell people the truth, to get paid for my courage, to get paid to, um, pass on my guidance and my advice, and be okay with you take it or you leave it. Like, you wanna take it? Let's get on the bus. If you don't, I'm okay with that. It doesn't mean I'm not enough. Um, and it allowed me to Build a bigger life

Dr Nat Green

Mm.

Jennifer Urezzio

A life with a lot more people in it too. I read, um, there's a series by JD Robb, um, it's something and, and love, it's with, Dallas

Dr Nat Green

Mm-hmm

Jennifer Urezzio

And, Eve Dallas, and she constantly in the books, there's like 20 of them, in the books goes, "Wow, I let people in and now I have a lot of people in my life," right? She both says she hates it and she loves it, right? Mm. I have a lot of people in my life now, and I both love it and I both, mm, right? Mm. You know, I can no longer be the lone wolf. Yes. I can no longer, you know, um, I'm good with my personal oneness, but I also don't use it as a fortress of solitude anymore. I don't use it to keep people away because I don't want to open up and then be told I'm too warrior, I'm too this, I'm too that. So I have a lot more people in my life now.

Dr Nat Green

Mm. And it sounds like that's, that's wonderful, but there's also that at times that's too much. Not you're too much, that's too much. So how do you- Yeah discern who stays and who hangs out on the periphery?

Jennifer Urezzio

Yeah, I, I, and I did a whole podcast about this. So I look at my relationship house.

Dr Nat Green

Mm-hmm.

Jennifer Urezzio

So there are some people who get to be in my bedroom. There are very few people in my relationship bedroom, right? Mm-hmm. Those are people I could, like, open my guts to, I'm happy being emotionally naked around them, right? Yeah. Then there are people in my kitchen, right? Those are people that I'm totally good with them opening up my refrigerator, and our refrigerator is always packed full and always a mess.

Dr Nat Green

Mm-hmm.

Jennifer Urezzio

Like, we're constantly going, "Where are the olives? Have you seen the cheese? Where's the..." Like, we can't find anything, right? But I, my best friend came over, um, a couple weeks ago, and she opened up the refrigerator and, and I go in her house and open up the, her refrigerator, right? And I didn't even, like... Like, who cares, right? Then there's the living room people who we can have a great chat, they know a lot about me, but they're not getting in the refrigerator, and if they would walk into the refrigerator and open it, I'd be pissed. Yeah. Right? And then there are people on the porch and people in the backyard. So I really go, where are these people in my house, and am I comfortable with- Yes them being in that room? And do they think that they're in the bedroom when they're really on the porch, right? Mm-hmm. And what am I putting out that is giving them that impression? What boundaries do I need energetically, emotionally, mentally, um, and actually physical? Mm-hmm. So that's how kind of I determine, like, where people are and where, whoa, I need a little cocooning time.

Dr Nat Green

I love that. I actually listened to that episode as I was driving down to Sydney before we went on our holiday, and I love that episode. So I'm gonna, I'm actually gonna link that up in the show notes as well, because it was very, very valuable, and I think a lot of us, particularly people who've been through trauma, do either trust everyone, because they want to belong, they want to connect again, or they trust no one. And I think that that was a really useful exercise. I found it very informative. So yeah, I'm gonna link that up for sure, 'cause we need boundaries, and healthy boundaries, and it's okay to have

Jennifer Urezzio

boundaries. Yeah, and we... Yes, and we don't know where our boundaries are until we have that conversation with ourselves, right? And we, we really have the courage to say, "This doesn't work for me," right? And, and most people go, "Oh my God, I'm gonna have to tell James it doesn't work for me?" No, because all relationships are internal, and when you do the internal change, things shift externally. Sometimes you do, but sometimes people just move away like ships in

Dr Nat Green

the night. And part of that is, is allowing them to, to move on and us being okay to let them go, rather than clinging on for dear life- Exactly thinking we have to have them. We don't. Yes, I love that. So you touched on a couple of things. I made some notes, and one of the things that I often do is, is ask our guests what specific qualities or personal attributes you see as being key for moving from trauma into post-traumatic growth. And you mentioned that ability to accept, align, and courage in particular. So do you wanna share any more or any other wisdom?

Jennifer Urezzio

I think integrity with yourself, right? I think, um Really being truthful with yourself, nonjudgmental. Compassion is a big one. Mm-hmm. And forgiveness and acceptance. Uh, uh, forgiveness can only come once you accept, and a lot of us spend a lot of time in non-acceptance. Yes. And I tell my clients, "This is what non-acceptance is. You're in London, you're standing in front of Big Ben, you have a, a map of the tube station in your hand, and you're insisting you're in Paris." Well, never going to get to Paris if you don't accept you're in London. And I think when I tell people that, they're like, "Oh my God, I'm in non-acceptance about a lot of things," right? That keeps you in the circle of trauma.

Dr Nat Green

Mm-hmm.

Jennifer Urezzio

Um, and I think another qualification is a willingness Pride from a standpoint of having to be right has no place in healing.

Dr Nat Green

Mm.

Jennifer Urezzio

Because if you need to be right, if you, or your experience has to be the right one, if you have to be righteous about it, it actually prevents you from letting go- Yeah because it becomes this great, giant, wonderful, warm blanket that you use to keep yourself, uh, safe.

Dr Nat Green

Mm. Yeah. Yeah, and I think, you know, I know I've certainly done that myself at times when I was deep in the depths of the trauma. Um, and I know a lot of people and a lot of clients I've worked with who do that. And when they get that capacity to understand and that acceptance, gosh, it makes a difference, doesn't it?

Jennifer Urezzio

Yeah.

Dr Nat Green

Yeah. So I'd love-

Jennifer Urezzio

And I, I, and I think... Oh, sorry. No, go. And I think people have to, have to understand, like, it can be an instant shift, but it's actually a marathon, right? Like- Yeah this is not like, "Woo-hoo, I'm changed, I'm healed." This is, um, this is constant choice that you, you get to keep making.

Dr Nat Green

Yeah. And you need to keep making. It's not a- Yeah, yeah once and done. As you've, as you've said, it's... No, it's a constant. It's like as you uplevel and get to that next layer and next level, there'll be another one and another one. Yeah. So I'd love for you to share a bit more about the work you do. So if someone wanted to know more about how they could work with you and what they would get from that, let us, let us know, because I'm fascinated by the amazing stuff that you're doing.

Jennifer Urezzio

Thank you. So I identify the three core energies of soul. In a personal soul, that means the soul inside of you, and your business soul. When you call in a business, it's pure consciousness. It's outside of you. It is not you. Um, nine out of 10 times people don't have any soul languages or core energies in common with their personal soul and their business soul. Mm. You call in a business to do something bigger, first for you, and then for others, and that usually takes different energy. Mm. So when we identify your soul languages, then I teach people how to put consciousness into everything they do. So a very tangible example is, um, I have this client who, uh, has this... She's an amazing artist and has this, like, nine-to-five job.

Dr Nat Green

Mm-hmm.

Jennifer Urezzio

Instead of What she keeps doing is she wants the people in her work environment to change- Mm-hmm so she feels better. And we talk to her soul, and we ask her what can she put different into the energy field between her and that experience, and then we do it energetically, and things shift. So I teach people how to really firm up that energetic channel internally so you're utilizing your energy consciously, so you can create from a place of power versus pattern. And then I teach them the external strategy as well, meaning, I know you said this, but what I really think you mean this. Mm-hmm. And here are all the things that you get to do to kind of make that happen. Um, and then I'm an expert on warrior energy, how you can use it consciously versus unconsciously. So unconsciously, and when I say warrior energy, people with warrior energy will be nodding their head, so I don't, like, need to explain it, because they just nod their head. But unconsciously, right, they feel a sense of responsibility for the world. They never leave a man down, lone wolf. They have to make war to get what they want. And we take those energies, and we move them into consciousness, because warrior energy is amazing, right? Warriors can get more done in 15 minutes than most people can get all day long. Mm. But when they use it consciously, what happens is they go, "Hmm, I'd like to make 15 million." That's a little big figure. But, "I'd like to make, you know, $1,500 a day." And poof, because their energy is so precise. Mm-hmm. So I teach them how to move from pain and suffering to consciousness. That's a little bit about what I do.

Dr Nat Green

What a gift. Like, yeah. I'm, I'm like, wow, that's amazing. Yeah. I want to know more. I'm like, very exciting. And I get that- Yeah warrior energy and, as you know, I've got the archetypes and, and I think you did. You were the authentic warrior. Surprise, surprise. Yeah,

Jennifer Urezzio

Shocker, which, which would correspond, because my other soul So my soul languages are my mission, which I'm profoundly here to experience and then offer that, is called equalizer. It's all about creating that perfect formula of balance, first for myself, and then for others. How I fuel that is called teacher of integrity, right?

Dr Nat Green

Mm-hmm.

Jennifer Urezzio

So I can see where people are out of integrity, offer them the chance to back in, which means back into balance. And my soulful personality, how my soul prefers to go through life, is called graceful warrior. Action, movement, courage, and grace. So when I ID someone's full language, I give them a one-liner, and that becomes their mild marker of consciousness. They're not being and doing that, they're gonna create struggle. So my mild marker of consciousness is I create balance for myself and others through love, integrity, and courage. So if I'm not being and doing that, I'm going to create struggle. And what I love about soul language is it- It's an evolutionary tool. The energies are changing. They're evolving, right? 'Cause energy changes in waves. Yeah. And so the definitions will be updated. Um, I can s- see, like right now, a whole bunch of one soul languages have been identified. Mm-hmm. And I'll go, "Okay, here's what's happening." And when the people are like, "Oh my God, are you in my head?" No. But I've talked to four of you now, and I can see the energetic wave, right? Yeah. And so it, it's really about being it feels like standing in the center of the world with, and you can see all the energetic-

Dr Nat Green

Mm

Jennifer Urezzio

ribbons of the universe.

Dr Nat Green

Wow. I'm just like, that, that sounds, like, amazing. And, I understand that, to be able to stand there and do that, and I see exactly what you mean by your personal soul and your business soul, and if they're, if they're not integrated, then there's this constant battle. So what a powerful work to do, to be able to gift people with that when they work with you. Or to help them decide that's not what they wanna do, that-

Jennifer Urezzio

Yeah

Dr Nat Green

they wanna keep it separate. And that's on them, isn't it?

Jennifer Urezzio

Yeah. They're okay either way.

Dr Nat Green

Yeah. Yeah. So when you went through your own, all this stuff and, you know, hit by a car and you had a, just a little bruise, what did you make that mean afterwards, after you'd recognized, oh my God- Oh that really was huge. What

Jennifer Urezzio

am I doing? Well, I was under 25. Yeah. So I don't know if I made it mean so much other than, gee, Jen, why don't you slow down and look both ways, which is kind of a theme across my life.

Dr Nat Green

Mm-hmm.

Jennifer Urezzio

You know, I think now I would make it mean whole... And I did a bit think of this when, at that age, like, oh my God, I am freaking protected. Like-

Dr Nat Green

Mm

Jennifer Urezzio

uh, it looked like I was picked up and put back down on my feet, right? That is huge kind of level of protection. Now I would say that I don't need to get hit by a car to know I don't have to rush through life,

Dr Nat Green

right? Mm.

Jennifer Urezzio

You know, I remember at the beginning of my journey, like my official journey, um, I had a bat fly into my apartment.

Dr Nat Green

Oh. And-

Jennifer Urezzio

Oh, God, I even... It was a whole thing. Ugh. I had to call the police, and the police were like, "This is not an emergency, but we'll send people." And then the police show up and, you know, this guy, it was one guy, right? So he's got his gun, he's got his mace, he's got his stick, you know, and he's like, "Okay, I'm gonna go in there, but please don't tell anyone, but I'm gonna start screaming like a baby." I'm like, "Okay." Anyone in there, he starts screaming. He's like, "We gotta call Joe." Joe comes. He's like, "Don't tell anyone, but I'm gonna go scream." Right? Then they're both screaming. But, but I, at the time, I told, told my coach, my spiritual coach. They're like, "This bat came," and like, "What does it mean?"

Dr Nat Green

Hmm.

Jennifer Urezzio

Right? I... Now I know what it means now, but she said, "Sometimes a bat is just a bat." Meaning sometimes- No, it's not don't look for the... Right on. Don't look for the big reason for everything. Yep. Because you can get lost in the finding the reason-

Dr Nat Green

Yeah

Jennifer Urezzio

and skip the change. Um- But, uh, and I, I remember that because sometimes it's just about, like-

Dr Nat Green

Mm

Jennifer Urezzio

sometimes if we spend time trying to figure out why everything is occurring, we're missing, we're doing it all with our brain. Yeah. And we're missing what the gut and the heart are trying to tell us.

Dr Nat Green

Exactly. Yeah, and I love that you're learning with your current knowledge and wisdom and experiences that you can't just rush through life, that you need to experience it and, and that's a great learning, isn't it?

Jennifer Urezzio

Yeah. Yeah, it is a great learning. I mean, you know, a couple years ago I broke my ankle to learn how to receive more. Yeah. And that was the moment where I was like, "Yeah, I'm not gonna do this the hard way." I think so often we do it the hard way because we're used to the trauma and then- Mm-hmm learning the lesson, versus, okay, we could do this easy-peasy, like show me, guide me, lead me without pain and suffering. Like, let's make it easy. Um, and I think the way we also do that is being in this constant communication with our soul-

Dr Nat Green

Mm

Jennifer Urezzio

on a daily basis at least. So it, so you don't have to get yourself's attention by stepping on a little acorn and falling down the stairs.

Dr Nat Green

Mm. And you know- Yeah I'm sure our listeners can relate that how often are we so used to the, the trauma and the pain and suffering that we almost create it or look for it- Yeah or focus on that so often, rather than taking the easy path. But there is an easy path. It doesn't have to be like that.

Jennifer Urezzio

There is. There is, or worrying if we are on the easy path, we like, "What's going on? Are we still being chased by a bear? Why don't I see any bears? There must be bears." Like, spending all the time in the ease- Mm waiting for the two-by-four.

Dr Nat Green

Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, and I, I love that metaphor 'cause, yeah, unfortunately most, well, fortunately most of us aren't hit by literally a two-by-four, but you were.

Jennifer Urezzio

I was.

Dr Nat Green

Oh, my goodness. So Jen, as we move to wrapping up this conversation, where can our listeners find more about you and find you online?

Jennifer Urezzio

So, um, soullanguage.us is the website.

Dr Nat Green

Mm-hmm.

Jennifer Urezzio

Um, I'm at Soul Language or Jennifer Urezzio on all the social media. Uh, I have a Substack now called- Ooh Jennifer Urezzio Substack. Excellent. Very excited.

Dr Nat Green

Gotta check

Jennifer Urezzio

that out. Um, very fun. And, uh, I answer my own email. I pick up my own phone. Please do not call me at 3:00 o'clock in the morning, because that's 3:00 o'clock in the morning, and I will pick it up, and you'll hear the high squeaky voice of sleep. Um, there's a lot of free stuff on the website. I have a Facebook group called Spiritual Renegade, and I have a podcast called Asked and Answered by Soul. So that's where you can find me.

Dr Nat Green

Excellent, and I'll put all that in the show notes. Mm. And I can highly recommend Jennifer's podcast. It's-

Jennifer Urezzio

Thank

Dr Nat Green

you, Dr. Nat yeah, it's wonderful. And, and I was so privileged to be a guest on your podcast, and I, I will put that in there as well. And

Jennifer Urezzio

you were

Dr Nat Green

brilliant. It was amazing, and it was so good. I love how you just ask the questions, "Oh, hadn't thought of that," and get to it. And, you know, very similar to me, that no BS, say it like it is. And people love you or they don't, and that's okay. And we don't get to the point of that's okay without having a long journey to get there, of course. So yes.

Jennifer Urezzio

Without loving ourselves as much as we can- Yeah as often as we can, and continually loving ourselves even though we're not happy with ourselves.

Dr Nat Green

Absolutely, and we will never be 100% happy with ourselves. It's, it's a work in progress, and it's about acceptance- Mm-hmm. Absolutely again, as you said. So if you could share one more thing, or any other pearls of wisdom with our listeners, is there anything you'd like to leave them with?

Jennifer Urezzio

I'd like everyone to remember that they're whole and complete, and to ask them this question, themselves this question: If I knew I was whole and complete, what would I be? What would I say? What would I do today?

Dr Nat Green

Hmm. Let that one land, everyone. That was brilliance. And, and I'll- Thank you do that up as, as a quote, and we'll share that as well on our socials, because I think that- Mm is such an important question, or series of questions to ask ourselves. Now, I have one more question that I like to ask our guests. Not quite like the fridge magnet question you asked me. I

Jennifer Urezzio

love that question. I do too. I love the... Hmm, I've got lots of fridge magnets. I've gotta pick one.

Dr Nat Green

Now, what do you think your younger self would think of what you're doing in the world now, who you are, what you've achieved?

Jennifer Urezzio

Um I think my younger self would, would kind of laugh in a good way and say Wow. I'm so glad that you decided to use the dynamite and blow stuff up so you could create what you wanted. Yeah, that's what- I love that I think my younger self would say.

Dr Nat Green

Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. Very powerful. I love that. And I love that, yeah, thank you so much for sharing so openly the things that you've- Thank you been through, and, and the magic of the work that you do in the world.

Jennifer Urezzio

Thank you. Thank you. It was totally wonderful. And you know how much I adore you, Dr Nat

Dr Nat Green

Ditto. I love being... And, and for anyone, I would highly recommend you reach out and connect with Jennifer, because we call her our human Rolodex.

Jennifer Urezzio

She- That's cute

Dr Nat Green

is the biggest connector and mover and shaker, and we love her. And, yes, I'm so grateful and blessed to be in your, on your porch, in your lounge room, wherever I'm m- make my way through.

Jennifer Urezzio

No, I'm... Dr. Nat, you're, like, in the kitchen.

Dr Nat Green

Oh, I'm opening the fridge. You've

Jennifer Urezzio

got a good spot. Yeah.

Dr Nat Green

Oh, good, good.

Jennifer Urezzio

Yeah. I mean, of course you'd have to move the dog to do it, but yes, you're opening the fridge.

Dr Nat Green

Excellent. I'm looking forward to doing that. And, and I'm coming over to visit you again, and I'm definitely coming your way next time, so.

Jennifer Urezzio

I would love that.

Dr Nat Green

Yeah, definitely. Thank you again for your time and your wisdom today. It's been an absolute pleasure. Thank you.

Jennifer Urezzio

Thank you.

Dr Nat Green

Thank you for spending this time with me on Growing Tall Poppies. My hope is that today's episode has offered you something more than insight, that it's helped you feel a little more connected to who you are now, a little more trusting of your body, and a little more permission to stand tall without shrinking or forcing yourself forward. Post-traumatic growth isn't about fixing yourself or returning to who you once were. It's about understanding how you adapted, honoring your nervous system, and gently choosing what no longer needs to come with you. New episodes of Growing Tall Poppies are released weekly. every Tuesday, and I'd love for you to continue walking this path with us as we explore identity after adversity, integrity, invisibility wounds, nervous system wisdom, and what it truly means to grow forward grounded, aligned, and embodied. If this episode resonated, I invite you to subscribe, follow, share it with someone that you feel might need it, or simply take a quiet moment to reflect on what's ready to move forward for you. You can also find me on Instagram at drnatgreen, on Facebook at drnataliegreen, or over on YouTube at drnatgreen. And remember, you don't need to rush, and you don't need to hide anymore. Stay connected, stay true, and keep standing tall like the tall poppy you are. I'll see you in the next episode. Bye for now.