The Healthy Church Staff Podcast

The Dark Side of Church Positivity No One Talks About

Todd Rhoades Season 1 Episode 336

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Your relentless positivity might be hurting your church team more than it's helping them. When positivity becomes a requirement rather than a byproduct of church health, it creates pressure for staff to hide negative emotions like grief, disappointment, and burnout.

• Toxic positivity often arises when leaders use positivity as a shield to protect themselves from uncomfortable truths
• Brushing off concerns with phrases like "God's got this" or "let's just be grateful" can make staff feel unseen and unheard
• Scripture never avoids lament, so church leaders shouldn't either
• There's a huge difference between hope (acknowledging reality while trusting God) and hype (denying reality and labeling it faith)
• Create space for both celebration and confession in your team culture
• Try phrases like "it's okay to be honest here" or "let's walk through this together" instead of dismissing concerns
• Model vulnerability from the top by admitting when you're struggling
• Normalize real emotions in meetings and staff evaluations
• Your staff doesn't need perfect leadership—they need honest leadership

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The Contrarian View on Positivity

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Okay , this is going to be a good one . What if I told you that your relentless positivity might actually be hurting your team more than helping ? Okay , I know that seems like an absurd thing to say , but think about it . What if your best intentions are keeping your staff from being honest , from healing or maybe even from staying ? Let's talk about the dangerous undercurrent of toxic positivity Toxic positivity in church leadership , and why facing reality might be the most spiritual thing you can do today . Hi there , thanks for joining me .

Speaker 1

My name is Todd Rhodes , I'm one of the co-founders over at chemistrystaffingcom and you're listening to the Healthy Church Staff Podcast . All right , so let's unpack this a little bit . I'm being a little contrarian today . Those who know me might say that I'm contrarian every day . Maybe not , I don't know . But let's talk about today what I would consider maybe a hidden problem . And we're talking about what did I call it ? Extreme toxic

When Positivity Becomes a Shield

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positivity , toxic positivity ? Okay , here's the truth , right ? We all want to be in a positive church culture . Matter of fact , I talk with people just about every day that are like Todd . The church that I am a part of is so toxic we would kill sometimes for a place that's got a really positive church culture . But when positivity becomes a requirement instead of a byproduct of real church health , it can create some pressure to hide anything that feels negative , like grief or disappointment , burnout not allowed . Okay , that pressure can breed emotional dishonesty .

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I was reading a Forbes piece . I'll try and share the link as well . Author Tracy Lawrence writes about what she calls I kind of stole it from her , I will admit toxic positivity , that it often arises when leaders use positivity as a shield . Okay , now , think about this , think about this as a shield . Okay , protecting themselves from uncomfortable truths . So what does that look like ? Okay , in ministry , this might look like brushing off maybe some staff concerns with God's got this , or maybe silencing critique with let's just be grateful . But scripture never avoids lament , right ? So why do we so ? Sometimes toxic positivity when you're positive just to be positive , or you start throwing out cliches hey , god's got this , let's just be grateful . That might be a problem , okay . Number two the damage can be done and we'll talk about

The Real Damage to Your Team

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what it costs your team . So toxic positivity doesn't just annoy your staff , it can alienate them .

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Okay , so when pastors and church staff ignore the hard stuff and everybody around you knows that things aren't going well . Everybody knows you that . Everybody around you knows that this is a hard path you're on , but you keep pushing for smiles Everything's great , everything's good , god's got this . Staff can feel unseen and unheard and invalidated and over time , this is going to lead to just disengagement , emotional disengagement , even spiritual disengagement , and over time , it can lead to staff burnout . Okay , team members feel like they have to imitate the everything is rosy , everything is peachy , everything is good , god's got this . But we can't , as church leaders , we can't afford to just stay in that kind of cultural rot . It's a slow leak that eventually will sink the ship .

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Okay , so what

Hope vs. Hype: Finding Balance

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can we do about this ? Right ? How do we combat this ? Honest encouragement is always better than forced positivity . Okay , there's a huge difference between hope and hype . Okay , a huge difference between hope and hype . Hope acknowledges the reality and still trusts God . Hype denies the reality and puts it off on faith .

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Okay , as church leaders , what we have to do ? We have to create space for both celebration and confession and instead of pushing these positive vibes , only positive vibes all the time . Here are some things . Here are some phrases that you can maybe work into your vocabulary If you're a person that kind of leans more toward I'm always going to be the positive person in the room , Okay . So maybe introduce some phrases like this it's okay to be honest here , okay . Or maybe something like you're not alone , we're not alone . Other people have faced this and have gotten through this , and we can too . But we understand we're in a bit of a season here . Maybe try something like let's walk through this together . That sounds a lot more reasonable and a lot more kind of centered than saying , oh , this isn't a big deal , nope , no problems here , nothing to see here , right , this shift . It not only invites spiritual maturity , but it helps push away that emotional suppression that you'll get if you're just always doing that positivity thing , even when everybody around you knows that things aren't really going well ,

Creating a Culture of Emotional Honesty

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okay .

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And then , lastly , what I want to talk about is how do you create a culture of emotional honesty and this is where I think it gets really practical , okay . So if you want to kill toxic positivity in your church and again , your church might not be dealing with this , right , this might not be your problem , right ? You might have other problems . Positivity is not one of them , okay . But what if it is ? How do you deal with this . How do you create a culture of emotional honesty rather than this toxicness , this toxic positivity ? Okay , start by modeling that vulnerability right from the very top . And if you're struggling , man , rather than just saying the positive thing that you would normally say , just admit that you're struggling a little bit . If you're struggling , say it . If something hurts , name it . No harm , no foul . Normalize that real emotion in meetings and staff evaluations .

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Here's some other steps , action steps that you can take . You can even take some of these today or this week . Ask open-ended questions in one-on-ones , celebrate the small wins , share lessons from failure and train your team in emotional intelligence and maybe you need to train yourself on this as well , but train your team in how to do healthy feedback loops as well , because when authenticity becomes a value , health will almost always follow . Matter of fact , it will follow . Okay . So here's my bottom line .

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Here's my final thought for today . Your staff doesn't need perfect leadership . They need honest leadership . Okay , that kind of feels like Jesus , not just a motivational speaker . Okay , so how you doing ? Do you have tendencies to Always be positive ? Some might almost say that you're positive when you shouldn't be positive . Maybe it's a toxic positivity . Maybe you need to take some of these steps today to bring things back into alignment , to be authentic , to be vulnerable in your leadership . This will really help you and your staff as you seek to be a healthy church , a church that can be used by God to do some really great things , and it's a way to really keep your staff not only healthy but also keep your staff period . Just keep them .

Final Thoughts and Invitation

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Okay , I hope this has resonated with you , so give it a like , drop a comment , drop me an email . Podcast at chemistrystaffingcom . I'd love to hear your comments on this as well . And hey , if you're navigating some kind of tricky church staff situation or just want to build a healthier team , reach out to me . I'd love to talk to you and see if there's any way that we might be able to work together . We're for you at Chemistry Staffing and we want to come alongside you and help you to build a healthy team that can turn into a healthy church that does really healthy things , turns a lot of people toward Jesus in your community . All right , thanks so much for listening . Hope you have a great day . We're here back again tomorrow on the Healthy Church Staff Podcast . I'm Todd Rhodes . Have a great day you .