The Healthy Church Staff Podcast

Hiring Church Staff Shouldn’t Look Like The Bachelor… But It Does

Todd Rhoades Season 1 Episode 350

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Many churches approach hiring like The Bachelor – making decisions based on flashy first impressions and shallow questions, then experiencing regret months later. This episode explores a better approach to church staffing that prioritizes discernment over drama.

• Too many churches hire based on "vibes" rather than substantial evaluation
• Ministry leadership requires emotional intelligence, calling, team alignment, and theological compatibility
• Healthy churches define success metrics before beginning their search
• Structured interviews with consistent questions ensure fairness and thorough evaluation
• Using assessments helps identify personality, theology, and leadership patterns
• The Holy Spirit leads, but appreciates a solid hiring rubric
• Poor hiring decisions impact discipleship, evangelism, and can cost churches significantly

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The Bachelor Church Hiring Problem

Speaker 1

Let me drop a truth bomb on you today . Okay , too many churches are hiring staff like it's the Bachelor . You know what I mean . Maybe you've watched the Bachelor Every once in a while about every third season . My daughter draws me into it . Dad , will you watch this ? She's a rambunctious girl . She lives an hour away . But Dad , will you watch this with me ? And boy , I try this . Last season , I think I tried . I don't even remember if it was the Bachelor or the Bachelorette . I think I made it about 15 minutes in . I'm just like no , I can't do this . But anyway , I digress . Many churches are hiring exactly like the Bachelor Flashy first impressions , shallow questions and somebody gets the rose because we felt peace about them , and then , six months later , regret . Does that sound familiar ? Stick around .

Speaker 1

We're going to talk about that today here on the Healthy Church Staff Podcast . Hi , thanks for joining me . My name is Todd Rhodes . I'm one of the co-founders over at chemistrystaffingcom and I'm your host right here on the Healthy Church Staff Podcast . I don't know how you found us , but I'm glad you did . A lot of regular listeners here . Welcome back .

Speaker 1

I think it's great that you spend a little bit of time with me every day

The Rose Ceremony Mistake

Speaker 1

and really appreciate it . So let's talk about the problem here . Okay , we're talking about the bachelor and how a lot of churches let's just say they romanticize the hiring process . Okay , churches love the idea of finding the one , the perfect candidate , the one that you're going to spend the rest of your I don't know . I'll stop with the bachelor analogies here , but you know what I'm talking about . We're just praying for the right fit , or we just didn't feel peace about them , or , my favorite , we think God is leading us to wait , but we also need somebody . Yesterday , we hear that quite a bit at chemistry . Sometimes the mindset often sounds spiritual , but it's usually code , for sometimes at least , we didn't do the hard work on clarity or planning or discernment at the very first part of our search . Okay ,

A Better Way: Spirit-Led Strategy

Speaker 1

truth is you don't need the drama , you need the discernment , and that starts way before you do your first interview for this new position that you're thinking about hiring . Okay , I said I was done with the bachelor analogies , but I lied , sorry , because I do want to talk just briefly about what I call the rose ceremony mistake and what the rose ceremony mistake is , and tell me if you've ever done this . Maybe you were even hired this way once , who knows , in your career . The rose ceremony mistake is this You're hiring based on vibes .

Speaker 1

The bachelor style hire is all about how someone makes you feel . In an hour-long coffee chat or on a Zoom call , you laugh at their jokes , you think they're funny , they have kids the same age as you , your first impressions , and then you fall in love . But ministry leadership you know this . If you think about it , it's not about vibes . It's not . It's about emotional intelligence and calling and clarity and team alignment and theology and mission compatibility . It's about conflict style and resolution and communication , and if you're handing out offers after one or two emotional convos , you're not hiring , you're gambling , and maybe you've paid the price for this in the past .

Speaker 1

There is a better way , though , and that's what that's hopefully why you're listening here today . It's a structured , spirit-led strategy , it's a better model and it doesn't have anything to do with roses . It's about real alignment , and here's what the healthiest churches a lot of them that we get to work with at Chemistry Staffing here's what their process looks like . First of all , they define success before they even start the search . What does a win look like 12 months in ? When I ask a church hey , what does it look like 6 months , 12 months in for this new staff member ? What do you want them to accomplish ? And they kind of sit back and scratch their head and say , we hadn't thought about that , you haven't done your homework . At that point , you need to define success before you even post the job , before you ever start the search and definitely before you ever do an interview . Okay , another thing that healthy churches do is they're going to ask the same questions to every candidate . Okay , this isn't favoritism , it's fairness and consistency . And they use assessments , chemistry staffing . We have one that's called our Final Fit , but assessments will help you to understand personality and theology and leadership style , team chemistry , and it'll help you to look for patterns , not just moments .

Speaker 1

One great sermon or strong resume does not equal a staff fit . And here's another kind of a guiding principle that a lot of really healthy churches that do staff searches really well . The Holy Spirit leads , but he also appreciates a really solid hiring rubric . Okay , the Holy Spirit absolutely has a part , but you have to do your part as well , and here's why it's just that the real lives and real churches people's eternal destiny

Eternity at Stake in Hiring

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Speaker 1

I know we talked about this earlier on the podcast , but even this week we talked about how what kind of stands in the lurch here ? It's people's spiritual lives , it's discipleship , it's evangelism , it's outreach . It's where someone is going to spend their eternity . That's the state not to freak you out , but that's the stake . That's what's at stake when you're hiring new people . And if you're hiring like a reality , show it just it's going to lead to some really awkward staff meetings and it's going to lead to some misalignment . It's going to hurt your church's mission . You're going to be frustrated , people are going to get burned out . Relocation , heartbreak , broken trust , tens of thousands of dollars lost on a really bad hire that you probably could have avoided .

Speaker 1

This is eternity that we're talking about here . There are some real important things that we're talking about here . So let's treat hiring like the sacred stewardship as it is . Now . That can seem burdensome and I don't know , maybe it is , but it's so stinking important that you hire , and you hire well and you hire for the long term and get that kind of this vibe thing out of your head . There will be a vibe , but you can't hire on vibe alone . Okay , so here's the bottom line for today Church hiring , church staffing shouldn't be a drama filled guessing game . Okay , when we slow down , when we use some real discernment , when we get clarity again , that needs to happen even before we start the search on who we need not what we want , but who we need then and only then can we build teams that are going to grow and last

Bottom Line and Call to Action

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and lead well .

Speaker 1

Okay , I hope you've liked this podcast today . I hope it's helped you and maybe you've been a victim of kind of hiring being the bachelor type of a hiring church . I'd love to hear your story . I'd love to see if there's some way that I can help . Maybe you're like Todd this is us , but I don't know how to get to where I need to be from where I am man . That's something that I'd love to have a conversation with you .

Speaker 1

Reach out to me . Podcast at chemistrystaffingcom . This is what we do , this is what I've given my life to , and my mission is to help churches create and hire and keep really healthy teams . So reach out to me . Podcast at chemistrystaffingcom . And thanks so much for listening or watching . If you're watching on YouTube , we have a growing audience over on YouTube as well . If you're watching , today is Friday . If you're watching on the day that it was released . If not , it might be any other day but Friday . But if it's Friday , have a great weekend and we'll see you right back here on Monday On the Healthy Church Snap Podcast . Hope you have a great weekend .