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When You Shouldn’t Hire (Even If You Really Want To)
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When More Staff Isn't Better
Speaker 1More staff isn't always better . It seems like it should be better , right , but today we're going to look at the signs when your church shouldn't move forward , when your church should not move forward with a hire at least not yet . From unclear roles to broken systems , adding someone too soon can actually make your team less healthy . So , before you hire , we're going to talk about five critical questions that you should ask . Hi there , my name's Todd Rhodes . I am so glad that you joined us for today and by us I mean me . It's just you and me here on the podcast together , on the Healthy Church Staff Podcast . I'm also one of the co-founders over chemistry staffing . I don't think I mentioned that today anyway , all right , today we're going to talk about staffing and hiring . We've been doing a little mini series here the last couple of weeks on churches and hiring , and maybe you're not hiring someone at your church , maybe you're not , maybe you're a staff member and you don't hire , but I still think , as we talk about healthy church staff structures , that there should be something here for everybody . Today , let's start here . Not every staffing need should lead to a hire . In fact , hiring at the wrong time can actually multiply your problems . Actually multiply your problems and before you say yes to that next
Five Rules for Church Hiring
Speaker 1staff member , let's take some time today the next few minutes anyway and hit pause and talk about when you absolutely should not move forward in hiring your next staff member . Believe me , this could save you and your team a ton of frustration and conflict and even turnover . Okay , so when should you not hire somebody ? All right , here's the first rule that you should not break , and I see this rule broken quite often when churches call us and say hey , todd , can you and chemistry staffing help us hire this next role ?
Speaker 1Here's rule number one that gets broken . The rule is you don't have a role that's clearly defined it . If you don't have a role that's clearly defined , if your job description sounds like three jobs in one or you don't know what even the heck you're hiring , you're not ready . You don't just need a warm body , you need a job description . Clear expectations are actually kindness to the person that you're looking to hire . Don't hire somebody to figure it out as they go . That's not leadership , that's chaos , okay . So do not hire when you have not fully defined the role .
Speaker 1The role Point number two do not hire when you're avoiding a hard conversation . Are you trying to hire around someone who isn't working out . Maybe bringing someone new on board won't fix a toxic church team member , but you think maybe it will , but it won't . Okay , sometimes you have to fix the fountain before building more , okay . So rule number two if you're hiring to replace somebody that's still on your team yes , this happens . Or if you're hiring because you're trying to hire around somebody that you don't want to deal with , do not
Culture Always Wins
Speaker 1hire until you get it taken care of at home , okay .
Speaker 1Rule number three when it's just about busyness , okay . Don't hire when it's just about busyness . Overwork is real , but not every solution is a new hire . Don't build your church's organizational chart around short-term urgency . You need to consider restructuring , maybe clarifying responsibilities or pausing non-essential projects first . So don't just hire another person because you're busy . Look at not just the short-term urgency but the long-term urgency before you pull the trigger and decide to hire somebody new , all right .
Speaker 1Rule number four do not hire . Don't ever hire when the culture can't support it . If your staff isn't healthy right now , adding more people is not going to make your staff healthier . If you think my staff isn't really healthy now , but if I just hire just one person that's really healthy . They'll just kind of spread that health all throughout the organization and the staff . It never happens , okay . Culture always wins , always . It always wins . A new hire will quickly adopt the dysfunction around them or they'll bounce away . Okay , so that's rule number four .
Speaker 1And finally , rule number five this might seem like why even mention it , because of course we have , but many we forget it . Do not hire if you haven't prayed through it . And I don't want to get overly spiritual here , okay , but it is ministry . And if a hire is being made out of panic or pressure or pride , slow down , don't make the hire , don't pull the trigger . Prayer will bring clarity and clarity will often bring peace . All right
The Time to Hire vs Wait
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Speaker 1So here's the final thought , here's the bottom line for today . I feel like King Solomon here in Ecclesiastes right , there's a time to hire and a time not to hire . There's a time to hire and a time to wait . Hiring isn't always the right next step and that's weird , coming from somebody that pays my mortgage . I don't really have a mortgage , but I used to pay my mortgage through helping churches find staff people . There's a time to hire and not a time to hire . Sometimes the healthiest thing you can do is just push , pause and wait and pray and get your job description around and fix the dysfunction that's happening on your team right now before you bring anybody new into the mix . All of those things will serve you really well , and if you just pause because of one of those things today , this podcast was well worth your listen , I think .
Speaker 1So what's one question your team needs to ask before adding someone new ? I would love to have a conversation with you . If you'd like to talk through and just say , todd , given what you know , because you work with churches all the time , all around the country given what you know , should we hire ? Should we not hire ? Love to have that conversation with you , talk through some of these things and see if this is really a good time for you to hire and then , if so , if there's a way that chemistry can help you or I can help you and your church through that process and we'd love to be able to do that as well but reach out to me podcast at chemistrystaffingcom , and if there's any way that I can assist or help you or your church , please don't hesitate to ask at podcast at chemistrystaffingcom Also
Free Church Staff Health Assessment
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Speaker 1Before I let you go here , we just started last week our 2025 Church Staff Health Assessment and you can take that absolutely free . It's about 50 questions . At the end of the assessment , you'll get a synopsis of where you fall on that church health spectrum . It's absolutely free , you can take it anytime right now . Matter of fact , I would love for you and your team individually to take this Church Staff Health Assessment . Just go to chemistrystaffingcom slash 2025 . Chemistrystaffingcom slash 2025 . Chemistrystaffingcom slash . The number is 2025 . All right , that's it for today . Thanks for joining me . You're listening to the Healthy Church Staff Podcast . You .