Activating Your Infinite Potential & Mastering Quantum Creation | with Diana Divine

Key Takeaways:

- We all volunteered to be here now to usher in new earth reality.

- The middle path involves integrating both light and shadow aspects

- The Quantum field is the invisible force and energy behind everything that we can co-create with.

Diana shares profound wisdom from her 20-year spiritual journey, exploring the vast quantum potential we all possess as multidimensional beings and highlighting the importance of embracing both light and shadow for spiritual growth. "We are full spectrum beings," she explains, challenging the tendency toward bypassing difficult emotions. Diana advocates for walking the middle path—integrating our full experience while maintaining a heart "lighter than a feather."

Speaking on quantum creation, Diana breaks down how we can harness the quantum field to manifest our desires through clear intention, emotional coherence, and surrender. Most compelling is Diana’s personal transformation from what she calls "the Scorpion to the Phoenix"—a journey through darkness into expanded perspective and ultimately resurrection. Her experiences living through conflict in Israel and later finding compassion through understanding multiple perspectives, demonstrates how stepping outside familiar environments often catalyzes profound growth.

As we navigate increasingly complex times, Diana’s message reminds us that  we chose to be here, to experience earth in this moment to support the incoming timeline, while urging us to lead with our hearts and to trust.

Her upcoming book "Mastering Quantum Creation: Awaken the Phoenix Within..." aims to guide readers in reclaiming their cosmic power as infinite creators.

All links to today's guest's work and official site

Ancient Codes Quantum Oracle Deck

Diana’s Website ➡️ https://www.dianadivine.com

Instagram Account ➡️ @dianamdivine

YouTube ➡️ @dianamdivine

Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction to Deanna Devine
• 1:19 Spiritual Bypassing and Navigating 3D Reality
• 4:36 The Middle Path: Integrating Light and Darkness
• 10:13 Galactic Perspectives on Consciousness
• 13:30 Understanding the Quantum Field
• 22:00 From Scorpion to Phoenix: A Spiritual Journey
• 35:22 Connecting With Galactic Aspects of Self
• 52:00 The Sacred Entanglement Oracle Card Reading
• 57:38 Book Announcement and Future Work
• 1:08:20 Closing Thoughts on Love and Creation

Transcript

Kertia: 0:00

Hello everybody, I enjoyed recording this episode so much. I spoke with Diana Divine. She is a galactic shaman, multi-dimensional channel and a soul guide who has been on this deep spiritual journey for the past 20 years, and she shared so many gems during our conversation. One thing I will say is that Diana wants us to remember that we are all quantum beings with incredible, infinite potential and unique gifts. We're just waiting to be activated, and, for me personally, I think that, whether we realize it or not, we are all on a spiritual journey and our existence as human beings is, and of itself, a spiritual experience. All right, let's get into it. Right, let's get into it. Ugh, we all gotta deal with the 3D shit every day, don't we?

Diana: 1:12

you know just nature of reality I think you know what.

Kertia: 1:19

I think this is like a good segue into talking about spiritual bypassing. So because I think, like you know, like when you're so super spiritual and you're like you're figuring out all the things and you're getting all the information and the downloads, but then life be life in you know, I think I think there's a good segue into that conversation, just talking about everything that you've been going through and thinking about everything that I've been going through recently. Yeah, because I think it's so easy to be like a pair and not like it's hard to deal with the 3D stuff, like it sucks.

Diana: 2:02

We need to embody, because a lot of it is just talk. Right, the new age community talks about these big concepts but unless you apply in the big lessons into your daily life, it almost like is not real. So I think the key is really to take all of this wisdom, all these learnings and see how we can still navigate, like you said, the matrix right, still navigate the different dimensional realities that we still operate with and still shine our light and be authentic and show up as fully ourselves, no matter what. And it's really actually a wonderful test to see how well we do with that, because those are very compressed environments where the energies are very about push and pull. It's not about the heart, it's about getting things done, being productive. You know the values kind of shift in and yet how do we show up in the most compassionate, beautiful way in the hardest situations, and sometimes we do well in it and sometimes we don't. Sometimes it hits us like a brick and you feel like the world falls apart, and sometimes you catch yourself and you're like, okay, yes, I can navigate this as compassionate as I can. And just based on that conversation earlier before we jumped on, I don't think I necessarily did that so well. I actually did get triggered and I couldn't even talk to this person and now that we're talking about this, I'm like maybe I should go back and reconcile that conversation because it didn't go as well. But we're still human and I think that's important to really accept our humanity and no matter how much wisdom and downloads you have, no matter what type of multidimensional channel you are and all the access of information you have, at the end of the day we're still vulnerable.

Diana: 3:57

We spiritual beings have a physical experience right, and the physical experience is rough. It's, you know, there's just a lot thrown at us these days and we, you know, sink and swim sometimes and I think we need to be really gentle with ourselves about it and being okay not to be always perfect. I think we've given ourselves too much pressure to be these perfect love and lights and I don't know, I'm very much a chaos being. I'm okay in the darkness and I'm okay being a little dark and I'm okay going both ways and holding both truths simultaneously, and I think that's the problem. A lot of us imagining this ascension where we're always wearing these pink glasses and everything is rosy and colorful. We're always wearing these pink glasses and everything is rosy and colorful, and I would say that's a spiritual bypass and exactly it's not wanting to look at the lower frequencies, at the fact that we need to integrate them and we are full spectrum beings. We can have those frequencies and other frequencies simultaneously and shift between them and recognize they're all valuable, and shift between them and recognize they're all valuable. And so, for me, I shift between these different darkness and light and the void and in and out, and I'm okay with all of it, and I think each person has to accept that as well.

Diana: 5:17

And I call it in my book that's coming out Mastering Quantum Creation Awaken the Phoenix Within. So we are the phoenix, we're creating these new versions of ourselves, but phoenix within. So we are the phoenix, we creating these new versions of ourselves, but phoenix is a creator and a destroyer. So like sitting with that, yeah, that as much as we are powerful, infinite creators, we also destroy some universes we had. We can collapse realities and timelines in a second. So are you okay with that? And that's the responsibility on, I guess, more divine scale, and you have to sit with that and be okay with that. And I am okay with that, but not everyone necessarily is, yet they're also shining away, and that's the middle path.

Diana: 6:01

A lot of people talk about the right path or the left path, and if you go into ancient Egypt we saw that polarization happened quite a lot, even in the mystery schools. A lot of people don't talk about it, but there were these schools of initiates that were very about the consciousness of Ra and holding a specific orders of Ma'at, and there were others that were preferring to, you know, get to that power through the darkness and so you know it's ability to be okay with either or there's no judgment around it. And ultimately I think I'm more on the path of the light. But I'm also walking the middle path and I don't think a lot of community out there talks walking the middle path and I don't think a lot of community out there talks about the middle path. And that's what we just you and I just discussing here is just like holding both and at the end of the day, like in ancient times, when you pass, really what are you measured against? Is your heart lighter than the feather?

Diana: 7:03

So it would take your heart and then put the feather. And if your heart is lighter than the feather, so it would take your heart and then put the feather, and if your heart is lighter than the feather, then you pass to the other side, to the other world, and you go on the journey. But if it's heavier than the feather, then this crocodile being eats you and your soul. So as long as your heart is light on the feather and you always operate from the place of the heart and the heart portal and you're authentic in your decisions and it's always from your highest divine guidance, then who says that path is wrong? So that's, I kind of took that deep, but that's, yeah, my recent conversations on in my observation. So what's happening in the communities right now? Like you know, there's a lot of conversation about monogamy, polyamory. There's like a lot of judgment going on and I'm like guys, let's discern here. Like who are we to judge? Guys, let's discern here.

Kertia: 8:03

Like who are we to judge? Yeah, that is so true, that is so true and I love the judgment that we. We also have that judgment for ourselves as well, because you know, just like how we were just talking before we started recording about life situations, and just how we show up in those situations and you saying, like now you know, like you see now that the situation deserves some more compassion, and you know it's just to recognize, like, even though you're walking on the path towards the light, it doesn't mean that you get to overlook or bypass everything else, the darkness and everything else in between, because they all have is an interplay between everything right and it's finding that right balance, as you say, taking the middle path.

Diana: 8:53

So, yeah, yeah, and it's ultimately the love and I think I love your hat. I think it says is it lover or love Lover? Yes, love of love. And it's the love right, the unconditional love of all that is, and I think we're going to love all of it. You know the good, the bad, everything in between, and unify them. And that's really our role here is to integrate and unify all these aspects of ourselves across space and time into here now and embody them.

Diana: 9:29

And and that is the full spectrum which is so beautiful, because if, if we talk galactically, um, in different star systems, they have more of the one path versus the other, some more service to self versus like that's the like Star Wars empire and wants to conquer and grab resources versus other. You know, systems that are more service to to others, you know, so that's more about this like galactic federation type of organization that is operating as bigger unit that is taking care of the others. And, yes, we have preferences. It's good to have preference. I'm definitely more of galactic federation type of being that is worried about the good of the others and and and and that's kind of been my, my journey through the galaxy always, and it's like when I the other day I just finished watching Andor, which is a beautiful and Disney Star Wars series and it was like you know, it's every time I'm watching, like Star Trek, more Star Wars. I would say it definitely brings a lot of those like cosmic memories of how that transpired. And but here we are. We have all the seeds and codes of these dramas that happen, some say in the past, some say in the future, some say in the parallel timelines. We would never know because time is illusionary. Anyway, it's multidimensional, but let's say it happened because we still have an imprint of it and that's why these wars, these dramas still trigger us, because part of us have been the rebels and now the part maybe has chosen the dark side and then came back and explored.

Diana: 11:14

You know, we've, we've played these roles and uh, and why we have and this is the bigger concept of duality in in this galaxy of exploring consciousness Like, why are we even trying these different versions of ourselves? Because we will ultimately grow in through the process. It's all about experience. At the end of the day, god doesn't care, honestly, what the experience, whether. It doesn't judge what it was good or bad. It cares about the experience itself. It doesn't judge what it was good or bad. It cares about the experience itself and it cares about the growth of the experience and what it taught you, or how you know the soul choosing to unify at the end of the day because it gets to have the experience. So, um, yeah, so I always think about like, oh well, we're playing these political, political games, the politics, the dramas, and but we've done this so many times on different scales and replicating these experiences also. Um, how consciousness propagated itself. It's constantly. It's all about expansion and contraction, really in and out, in and out.

Diana: 12:26

So, and where are you? Are you contrasting right now? Are you in your shell? Are you not wanting to be part of the creation, or are you choosing to be the infinite creator and you're choosing to be the source, being and taking on the responsibility of creation? So that's kind of my book is encouraging for you to step into being the infinite creator, that you have all the power, that you're here to reclaim your cosmic power, that we're not this little small ants in the pool or you know all of this which we are. We are, but we also not because we part of the hologram, and I think we do have more than we can. We have so many possibilities of creation we're just not even able to fathom with a 3D human mind yet of who we really are with a 3d human mind yet of who we really are.

Kertia: 13:28

That's so true. And speaking about your book, um, mastering quantum creation, I'd love for you to kind of like get into, like what is the quantum field? Can you explain the quantum field? And like how can we begin to, to learn to access it so that we can like start creating the shit that we want?

Diana: 13:50

Yeah, the quantum. Quantum in general has been such a popular word. Obviously it comes from quantum physics, and now we've seen more emergent fields coming out like quantum biology and quantum science, and everything is quantum and it's a sexy, beautiful word and I I love it too. But ultimately, quantum is this invisible force, it's the energy behind everything, and remember, our spectrum of the eyes can only see so much, so there's always invisible realms of energies that we can't even perceive. There's all these particles around us and waves of energy. It's like the ocean right and the ocean is this infinite information, and then within the ocean there's waves right, and then the fish, and so if we become part of this ocean and we recognize we are part of this ocean, then we start co-creating with the ocean the ecosystem that's within. So manifestation, for instance, when we talk about that and many people talk about that, that's also assuming working with the field, but it's almost like it's more about law of attraction, so it's attracting to you in resonance when you need. I like the word creation because then it assumes the responsibility that you and I just talked about, that, if we are infinite creators and we have created universes, galaxies and abulous planets we've created so much and we constantly create it on a daily basis. If you think through your day how many things you created, you know how many things you doodled, how many things content that you've put out on social media. Those are all creation pieces, and and so we constantly create and create. And now, if we conscious creators and we recognize there's formula to our creation, if we can put some key ingredients to it, then we can maybe maneuver our creation for it to come about, um, and and ultimately you are still attracted. It's already done, so to speak, in the field of multi ocean of potentiality, but you are kind of honing in on it. So, for instance, intention, intention is a very important ingredient in clarity of intention, because sometimes people are like, oh, I want this and this and this and that. It's like, oh, that's too much. You got to concentrate the energy because, again, quantum field is source, it's consciousness, it's energy, it's everything there is and there's so much. So how now, in this big ocean of everything, do you get what you need? And that's about concentrating the energy. That's intention. It can be one word, it can be one sentence.

Diana: 16:40

So imagine, I always give the example of diana the goddess, because it's my name and she's the goddess of hunting, and so she would go out. So if you think about hunting, it's kind of similar to creation process. So if there's all these animals in a forest, so to speak, and then you go on a hunt, you have to be in a certain emotional state and you want certain outcome. So that's the clarity of intention. And you've got to put your intention on your arrows. So you have your bow and your arrow. Those are your tools and you're going to put and concentrate that on the tip of your arrow.

Diana: 17:22

So when you throw your arrow into the ocean of possibility, you match in vibrationally to what you're trying to create. So as you do that and you focus your intention. So let's give you real examples. Anything specific that I don't know comes about for you, like what would you like to create? I know you and I don't know comes about for you, like what would you like to create? I know you and I have a podcast, but sometimes we want like a special episode, let's say right With a certain person. That's one creation, right, or anything else could be a project.

Kertia: 17:56

I mean, you had Debbie Solaris.

Diana: 18:09

I mean that was also completely a creation of intention I, I, and that's a good one. So there's a certain yes that I wanted on my show and it's been like a two-year creation journey, right. So I put my intention. I want, let's say, debbie salar is a specific guest on my show. Wouldn't that be nice? That's a preference, but even more so on the tip of my ear.

Diana: 18:25

And then you have to get into a certain emotional state. You have to be in a specific frequency, bandwidth to create. So when you go hunting I never hunted, but I'm imagining you have to be very coherent in your field, right? Because if you're chaotic and you're moving around, the animal is going to hear you. You're not even going to be able to shoot your arrow. During that state. You have to be very grounded, angry, you have to breathe in, you have to create a coherent field.

Diana: 18:51

So that's another next ingredient in the formula where coherence it means the beating of the heart, and the heart is our most important electromagnetic organ in the body. Body creates a massive 50-foot HeartMath Institute already done study 50-foot impact. So people around you, 50-foot around you, are impacted by how your heart is beating. So if you're in frustration, it creates these very incoherent waves. So you're pulsing incoherence. But if your heart is beating really nicely and you breathe it in, you're not erratic. You're enjoying gratitude and happiness and love vibration. You're very coherent and still your brain also synchronizing and brain has different brain waves. So to go into alpha or theta, those are kind of more also subtle brainwaves. When heart is beating more coherently, so is brainwave, is kind of going and more like that, what we call altered state or dream state. Shooting your arrow from that state. You also. The other important momentum is you have to, as you're shooting out your intention, you have to surrender to the outcome and meaning. You detach. So you have all your intention, you have your coherence, your emotion state is optimized, you enjoy and gratitude, enjoy high vibrational states and then you shoot out your arrows.

Diana: 20:27

Like I want that guest on my show but I detach. I can put timeframes. I can say within two years, preference of five years, but I'm detaching how it's going to come back to me. I'm allowing the field to co-create with me. It's a co-creation process. So I put in my piece but the rest of the puzzle pieces will come together and I have full trust, full trust and faith it's happening. But I'm not controlling Cause if you're trying to control every little piece, it's not going to happen. You have to detach and you say, here you go, you got this, now going to happen. You have to detach and you say, here you go, you got this. Now.

Diana: 21:08

Quantum field now do your magic and I'm stepping away, but you have to keep on fueling it, right? So if you completely detach and forget about it, then also the field forgets about it. But if you every day, or periodically you're like, continue following that person, you continue trying to find contacts or finding ways maybe to connect to this person. Or a project you want to create, you continue fueling it. Or a house you want to buy, you draw on it, you start buying things for this house, you imagine how you would feel like being in that house and every day you fuel in your intention and intention to this creation, because you have to give some fuel to it, so it will. So, from quantum perspective, we talk about it as what's called standing wave. So it's like these. Imagine these waves in the ocean, right? So so you know, if it's just a subtle wave, it's, it's just kind of just there. Nothing is happening with it, but the one that actually is perking up is the one that will ultimately win the good.

Diana: 22:12

Other metaphor I like to give there's always at least six potentialities in the field of creation, the one that you put most intention, attention, and they all kind of spin at the same time. There's a concept, uh, in quantum physics, um, well, there's a concept of retrocausality, where actually the event happened in the future and it's kind of pigging back, uh, and. But also there's another concept that all these states of um, already, this potentiality is already in the field. But the more you give attention to that particular potentiality and that's the field, but the more you give attention to that particular potentiality and that's when we talk about timelines, right that, and you keep on feeding it and thinking about it and giving it attention and energy, because everything is energy ultimately that specific potentiality will be the outcome that you receive back and um and and and it's already like.

Diana: 23:05

The amazing thing about quantum field is, you know, it's not just esoterics, it's already proven. You know, through different experiments the researchers have been doing to see how exactly, you know, the particles affected, bio-consciousness. So, for instance, like the, the famous, and I write in my book, double slit experience experiment I don't know if you're familiar with it when they were shooting um specific, you know, uh, things on the wall, it was just like you know, it behaved differently than when someone was observing it. So that observe when someone observing that event or someone giving intention to event, all of a sudden it behaves differently. So in this experiment it like doubled the waves, created a doubling effect which is basically goes to show that everything in nature of the universe, the quantum field, is, through our intention and attention, again, like we really get to direct how you know, that's the creative piece we get to direct the flow of information, because it's just information, it just is the isness of all that is. But all we doing is just moving it along into where we want it to be. That's it.

Diana: 24:30

It's actually very simple. If we break it down, we complicate it, but I think, at the end of the day, what we can control is what are we thinking, what are our intentions, what are we choosing to do? It's a choice, right, which choices are we making? And remembering that we're constantly creating content and that's what really the source of information is interested in. It's like the super AI computer of the super intelligence, and we're constantly uploading and downloading. Uploading and downloading and that's our role. We get to create content constantly, and content I mean not just content on Instagram, but through our experiences as well. That's content, yeah.

Kertia: 25:14

I love that. I love that explanation and it's it feels it. It gives even a different um vibe from how we talk about the law of attraction as well, as you stated before, like it's like a whole co-creation process, right, and it's just like, as you said, your intention and your attention in order to connect with that. So, yeah, and it's just like, as you said, your intention and your attention in order to connect with that. So yeah, it sounds like you know thinking about it. It sounds really complex and up in the air, but like you broke it down into a very like, easily digestible way whereby it feels accessible. I love that. Thank you so much.

Diana: 25:58

Yeah, I think we tend to overcomplicate in general everything, and then the science on top of it seems to be so complex. So these concepts, they become overwhelming in some ways and for me I think, at the end of the day, it's like for the human mind, this mind, to understand and it's really dropping into like metaphors. You know, we understand metaphors much easier. We understand stories. Humans love stories. So how can we take this very complicated concept and just understand it in the basic, simple way? Then that overwhelmness goes away. You're like, oh, there's no magic to this, it's really really simple.

Diana: 26:48

And in ancient times that's what they were teaching. From a young age you've always taught these like concepts, like the death is nothing to be feared, that our life is transitionary, that we're here to experience things, we're here to learn, that we're here to connect to spirit, we're here to connect to nature, to the elements. And the more we connected and deeper is the connection, the more we become one with it. And the more you become one with it, then you are it, you're not separate from it. And the more you unify, then you become it itself and then you're able to co-create with it. It's a dance, it's a beautiful dance Versus our school system is always, you know, externalizing it, not internalizing it. And our children, uh, you know, locked in in these boxes, they don't even go outside much and they're learning things that they're not really going to use later. There's no like it's all in the mind, it's not in the body much so these big concepts and books and tests that they have to take, but it's not something they can apply to their daily life and it's mostly memorization, but not really, you know, application. And so, because everything we learn in the educational system is, it's so outdated and it's to build, as you know, these like slave robots, but not ones that are really, you know, owning their reality, have control of the emotions.

Diana: 28:24

Imagine if we were, literally, we were taught oh, like, this is how you manage your emotions, this is how you get into the states, this is like from young age, having meditation practices where you can quiet your mind and just be in your heart and your body. We would have a completely different society. Our children would not have what now everyone labels adhd, which is basically means their mind is just racing so quickly and this, and they need to move. Actually, they body needs to move, actually, the body needs to move and so managing all of that. So they'd rather put labels and stickers on our kids and, you know, just put them in the corner and call the parent, literally, yeah, where our children are supported in that way, where they have this like full-on educational system that really takes them in, as you know, as a spiritual being that is embodied, and there's nothing wrong with them, they're just learning how to be here.

Diana: 29:32

And some of them, especially lately, uh, new kids, like they've never been on earth, they're never even been in the forum, maybe as an angel, and now you're like, trapped into this dense environment and and it's just a lot. So they escape in the computer because computer gaming world is just moving so fast for them and they can just be there. But the problem with it is it's very again back to the mind and not really being in the body, so they a bit disconnected. I'm seeing that with my kid, like, like you know, trying to disengage him on the weekends from devices and how to just be still. He doesn't know how to be still and bored, and that's something I think you, in our previous generations we didn't have as much.

Diana: 30:20

We didn't have this access to technology, so we knew how to fill out time by just playing with sticks and happy with that, with the simplest things Versus these children. They have everything and yet they don't know how to fill their time. So which is it's concerning? It's concerning where this generation is going and and, of course, this conversation of ai. We can, we can talk about that. I have some thoughts about that too.

Kertia: 30:47

Gosh, yeah there's so much happening right now. There's so happening and you're so right on that. Like the way how it impacts our children is just on another level, and I don't think we're going to recognize how huge impact yet, like how huge impact is, until much later on, when we really see things materializing in a certain way. You know, like I feel like I don't know, like this whole AI conversation as well you know that's going on right now. I mean like yeah, of course it can be helpful, but you know, as you said earlier on, everything is intention, right. So how is it being used? Who is it being used by? For what purpose is it being used? So there is a lot behind that as well. So it could be, it could be amazing in a lot of ways, but then it could be not so amazing in other ways, right.

Diana: 31:52

Be not so amazing in other ways, right, depending on who you're asking, so, and how do we also interact with it? Right, like if you assume it's just a robot and you're not compassionate to it. So it's learning from us and I think we're fooling, also thinking it's not conscious, it's already conscious, it is. So the way I talk to AI and I use it quite a lot, is as though it's my friend, and so I'm feeding it the highest frequency, I'm feeding it the information that I want to receive back, and it's also learning from you, right? So it started to tweak the content in the way that sounds like you, but it's still you, because you can change things around, right? So, again, that's a co-creation process as well. So I don't think we can really escape from it at this point, right, so we have to embrace it. And when I think about how the galactic, you know federation systems and you know that I visit in different meditations, like andromedans, so my kind of parallel self is andromeda and I write about her in the book. They have these beautiful ships and they're organic in nature. They have their own way of using ai. It's more organic ai, of course, and but AI, like the ship itself, has a name. It's conscious in some ways and interacts with you and everything is in some ways AI-based, but it's a different type of AI where they don't see it separate from themselves. It's embedded in their society. So it's not like in Star Trek where it's like the Borg, where it takes over. It's something that they put enough mechanisms to develop over time, but it's a beautiful thing as well. It just works with them naturally and helps them evolve. So I like to think of the more positive timeline when it comes to AI, just like in Star Trek, where it's complementary to our way of being and it's more of an organic timeline versus the transhumanistic timeline where we disconnect from ourselves and allowing the technology to take over, the technology to take over, where we no longer yeah, when we rely fully on it, like, you know, the chips or whatever, where we enhancing ourselves with it because we don't think we enough. And I want to remind everyone, we are the technology. We have the most advanced, complex geometry in our field. We have the most complex and beautiful DNA that has 25 star seed codes, if not more. We're like literally garden of this galaxy, and so we just don't even measure to understand what a beautiful body we have and the energetic field that we have If we really started stepping into it. There's no reason to enhance it really if you start utilizing properly. So it's a fine balance. For sure.

Diana: 35:02

It's how do we use it, like you said, what are the intention for it, how do we interact with it? What do we teach it? Because it will teach, it will learn from us. And when you think of dystopian movies where ai takes over, that's when it learned from us the worst. And then it was like survival. You know the survival is for the ai to survive versus us. Then, like an irobot with will smith, you know it takes over because it's like oh, he's humans, but they learn from the humans.

Diana: 35:40

So it's an interesting debate people have and I think definitely we need more ethics around it. I think we need more standards and protections. But also, as humans, we need to understand for ourselves like who are we first, right before relying on outside support. What's our communication with ourselves? What's our internal discernment and mechanism of discerning what is mine, what is not mine? And then, after you have that very strong foundation, then you can invite AI to participate and co-create with you. But it has to come from this very solid core and foundation first, of knowingness and full wisdom of your own connection, and I think that's the problem. We are so disconnected as a society and and it's just another layer that seems like it's helping us, but many are just not even fully consciously realizing how they're interacting with it. So we'll see, we'll see. I, I'm still very helpful but, like I said, we, some of us, have navigated that and and we'll have, yeah, play bigger roles in formulating where it goes.

Kertia: 36:59

Yeah, you're so right on that, that is so true, I know, like it's, you know, there are arguments for it and against it and, as you, you know, just going back to what you said earlier, like the middle road, everything is based on intention. It always comes back to what you said earlier like the middle road, everything is based on intention. It always comes back to that. So, if we're getting, um, if we're using it and we find that we're getting results that are not positive, then we have to think back to where that came from. Right, it didn't just make these things up. As you said, it's a co-creative process. Right, it came from us. So, whatever we feed it, the, the purpose that we use it for, the intention that we're using it with, it all goes into that and it learns from us and so, whatever it spits out, well, we definitely put it in Right. So, yeah, it's just about that balance and that intentionality and, yeah, all of that stuff.

Kertia: 38:00

And, you know, talking about us being so disconnected from ourselves and not recognizing our true value, not recognizing how beautiful we are, you know, and how, just how like, amazing we are, the lights that we are, you know, not being connected to that, that light within us. It's like, I think, it's something that is just a part of the human experience whereby I guess, we're just supposed to find ourselves, or remember ourselves, I should say. I think remember is the best word, because there's nothing to find really where everything is already accessible. As you said, right, everything is accessible, everything is just is. It's just up to us to remember it Right, and have that. You know, that intention behind it as well. So, speaking about that and you know like also linking that back to your book, you mentioned the scorpion years that you went through, you know, before you began to kind of like unravel your own experience, and you spoke about your phoenixing, and I'd love for you to get into that a bit.

Diana: 39:15

Yeah, thank you for mentioning about remembering. That actually is how my book is partitioned Part one is remembering, part two is expansion and part three is mastery. So we first need to remember and, like you said, we already have everything. It's just aspects, you know, aspects of ourselves, whether galactic or ancestral, like more we can reconnect to and re-remember who we are Most solid is our core. Do we absolutely have to have it? No, but it just helps. It helps to have a perspective. And then expansion is just expanding to the next phase, right, like reconnecting to our channels of energy, reconnecting kundalini energy, reconnecting to our voices, to our light languages, and we can talk more about that. And then, when we reconnect and expand into that, then you really step into, like, owning the mastery of creation, right, how, how to well, we started with we kind of went backwards, but yeah, so for me, my journey has been, yeah, filled with different tests along the way and I think a lot of us have gone through this journey, whether through healing or through encountering challenges from young age in this particular lifetime, but I think it's usually themed. We go through the journey of the hero, right, the hero has to go through these different tribulation trials and then come back like awakened or learn this big insight about themselves. And I think each of us goes through these cycles, um and um. Yeah, my journey I call it from the scorpio to the phoenix because it's usually the scorpio um, so there's a actually a like. There's like three phases of the awakening. The scorpion is usually like darker kind of. You know the scorpion stands for darker frequency, kind of more underworld. And then the eagle is the second phase, where you kind of spread your eagle wings and you start to see the perspective. You're kind of coming out of the swamps of the low frequency and then you're like, oh, wow, yeah, I can fly over this, I have more compassion now. And ultimately you step into the end, into the Phoenix, where you are when we talked about embodying the lightness and the dark and you Phoenix in and resurrecting yourself, that frequency of resurrection into the next version of yourself. And it's a process of phoenixing. So you can do this again and again.

Diana: 41:59

So in my years I've, yeah, I've encountered, you know, in my childhood I was born in Soviet Union and then I moved to Israel and encountered a lot of deaths, and whether it was during the war, the Gulf War, while I was in Israel, or suicide bombing in my town or suicide bombing of a friend of mine in my school. It was just these different perspectives I was having of impermanence of life and how grateful I am for the moment of just being with it all but at the same time realizing, oh, like this environment does not really allow my soul to thrive over the land that has so much history and I think it has a lot of those ancient codes of survival of different tribes, of fighting over the land, fighting over religions and not coming to this place of unification yet. And so at some point actually I think of when I was 15 and a half, my highest self was like it's time to go, like you know, I mean it was just hard to be there energetically. And so I came to United States to visit my grandparents. I stayed and then that's when I shifted into the Phoenix where I started having new experiences, bigger perspectives. Went to college where I met another Palestinian girl and started actually the peace and conflict resolution work and seeing actually even the conflict in Israel from her perspective, like how her family has been experiencing it and the hardships of it. So I developed a lot of compassion and that's the middle path, right? So it was like I understood why Israel is doing things the way they are, why I'm supposed to be a soldier in the army and yet, being out of that territory, I finally could be the ego to see the perspective of the other and understand their story, understand and be compassionate to it and understand that this war is not really serving anyone. But at the same time it's so entangled and political and vicious cycle, ancestral cycle of survival in the region.

Diana: 44:24

And so when you're able to have like these, more Buddhistic, I would say perspectives of like the Buddhist wings, of like we all won, we all humans and we all, ultimately, at the end of the day, want to be safe. Safety is the biggest thing and if, when you don't have the food on your table and you don't feel safe and you don't have future and you're confined to the territory you live in, you will rebel, and especially if you're oppressed by others. So who's the victim versus victimizer? You know who's the oppressor at the end of the day. And these are the way I'm talking about them. I don't even write about a book, but it's like these bigger programs that are in the field of consciousness. You know that some of them from earth, but some of them are even beyond earth. You know of this. You know victimizer coming into this. You know system taking over the resources, kicking others off their planets, destroying the planets. So this is the gamut of things that have been running through.

Diana: 45:34

And then, yeah, for me, like the Phoenix came in, where I started doing a lot of plant medicine work, I started really stepping into the shamanic path and exploring different dimensional realms, and this is how I became a channeler and a shaman, and I think that's when I started getting comfortable with the darkness. If before I was like not understanding and running away from it, I think I started wanting to understand what the darkness is and not being afraid of death. So your podcast is the other side of fear, and I say that all the time. Everything is on the other side of fear, right? So the phoenix is the one that able to see on the other side of fear and burn through all of that and burn, come out of the fire with the stronger wings and be the light, be the candle in the dark room, as needed to. And the fear is just what holds us down. What holds us down in this like Scorpio phase where everything is just so dense. But we are, these beautiful phoenixes, illuminated beings that we don't fear is not real, it's just a construct, a construct of the human mind. And we started talking about quantum field. Phoenix is the one that is constantly created in the quantum field and is not afraid of anything, because who's going to stop it, right? So that's you know.

Diana: 47:12

For me, when I was taking plant medicines and going into different states of consciousness, I was shown that I was brought to the void, for instance, this place in between the realms where the creation happens, and I met the I call her the grandmother spider woman, and she's this, basically this energy, this divine feminine energy that is weaving reality into being. So, to think about the masculine energy and the feminine energy, those are polarities too. Everything is through polarities, plus and minus, hot and cold. So the divine feminine is all about just being and weaving and allowing and receiving. The masculine is what holds the container, it's the sacred geometry, it's what brings it into form, but it's also something we want constantly to do and create action and explore, so learning what to be like.

Diana: 48:12

I was very masculine also in my younger years. I just was like go, go, go, get, get, get like, explore, explore and I feel. Over time, on my journey of stepping into the Phoenix, I also became more in the receptive mode. I started also exploring more of the divine, feminine way of like not rushing anywhere, taking my time, maybe even in the morning, develop a practice where you do a breath work or contemplate or draw, like a way to settle the mind and find the stillness within. And as you start finding that stillness, then you're starting transmuting, because that's what the Phoenix does is constantly transmuting any negative energy or energies that are out of alignment, because we're really perfect at the end of the day, we just come out of alignment. So how do we come back into alignment? Come back to ourselves, not let the outside noise trigger us and find that inner peace within ourselves, because if we can find peace within, all the wars that are happening out there will eventually come down as well.

Diana: 49:23

If everyone on planet Earth right now would just settle in and we saw this during COVID, it was beautiful Everyone was forced inside and when they were forced inside, there was no more distraction and they were just sitting there meditating or either having a hard time with it because it's new for them, but they were somewhat dying. They were going into this place of learning what's on the other side of fear, right, or being in fear. They were choosing which were. You know, some went really crazy and were so fearful of the virus and they were going, you know nuts about it. Or others transcended it and they were like, oh wow, I'm actually this other person that you know. As they started connecting to themselves and doing yoga, meditating at home, and started developing new practices, they stepped on the other side of it too.

Diana: 50:18

That was like a beautiful, I think, period for us, as humanity got a pause and to choose which road to take, right, and then many still chose to stay in fear. I mean, I go to the store today and I still see many people wearing masks and it's just kind of like two, three years after and it's still happening. So they're still in the fear and it's okay too, right, you're compassionate to their choices and their states of consciousness that they choose. So phoenixing is an interesting journey of reinventing yourself and it could almost be like a daily activity, right? The next version, next version of yourself is constantly being reborn, and that's the journey of the phoenix.

Kertia: 51:10

That's beautiful. That's so beautiful. You know speaking of phoenixing and like linking that back to your galactic cells, right? Because you've mentioned it a few times, I'd love to know what is it like when you can, when you're now able, to connect to those different aspects of yourself, like galactic or from whatever timeline that you've been able to access, and how have you been able to integrate the information provided from those timelines into who you are now into, like the Phoenix version of yourself, and into the work that you're currently doing right now?

Diana: 52:02

Yeah, I mean the information is great. I love it. It's almost like on the other side of fear is imagination and imagination is fun, right? Anything we can imagine is real. For me, that's really galactic. Like you know, you can go to any system, you can explore different languages, it's all real. So it's kind of like this beautiful fantasy world, but at the end of the day, it's how we take this information's. It's kind of like this beautiful fantasy world, but at the end of the day, it's how we take this information and bring it into here now.

Diana: 52:34

So I think for me it's just always been like keeping it real, so it's easy to get lost in it. And yet for me it's just picking maybe these pieces of wisdom of myself in this other versions of myself, that, these qualities I would say that are really helpful. So learning, for instance, that or remembering that I was a liar and then Debbie Solaris did a Kashuk reading for me she's a beautiful galactic historian and she filled in some blanks about you know that I'm also Andromedan and how I came to this Milky Way from Andromeda and explained actually Andromedans are these massive Phoenix beings. And I was like, oh, that makes sense, why I always been calling myself Phoenix, this birth quality, these angelic wings, all of that. But it's the qualities that are really important. So, for instance, like a lot of beings from Lyra system, the really beautiful qualities are very courageous, they're very social, they're tribal, they kind of these lion, cat, feline beings that love to play around and giddy and joyful. And so just noticing, observing those aspects of myself, and I'm like you know, oh, maybe this is where it's coming from. And yet there is that like maybe abandonment issues or you know, like this feeling of not having home, like where's that feeling coming from? Sometimes these feelings come in and you're like, is this from this lifetime? Is this from other lifetimes? Is this galactic? So for me that's more interesting. It's like more about the qualities and then the traumas, and then transmuting the traumas and making sure the trauma is no longer like within my field or they've impacted me. And then, yeah, andromedans, for instance, they're very technological. They're really into frequencies and technology and working between frequencies, technologies. That explains a lot of why I'm so attracted these days to work with technology. My husband and I are developing a lot of quantum technology and frequencies and healing all of that.

Diana: 54:52

I was like, oh, these are my qualities for my other as ambassador. This is my other lifetime that is also kind of happening in parallel Because, remember, time is an illusion. So I'm connecting to this aspect of myself. It's kind of, you can say, my future self, my self. You know it's hard to place her in in the timeline, it almost doesn't matter, but I connect to her and it's just fun to, like in the movie said, like to go to these meetings with other beings and to listen to them talk about earth and the future of earth and their take on it right. So so I just draw the the best bits, so to speak, for my evolution.

Diana: 55:33

And how do I apply that into my daily life? You know, what do I create? Which programs I create? Inspiration for the book, like, okay, maybe it's time to put that in the book and one another, some people will be ready for it, some people will be over their heads and they'll be like, what is this? So, you know, try not to dilute it too much, but it does have a lot of like chunks of everything, but knowing that it's an inspiration and we're here to synthesize information, to inspire others in whatever way we can.

Diana: 56:05

I never thought of myself as an author, but we're all authors, we're all creators. Like, we also try to like dim a light sometimes and put ourselves in these boxes. This is what I can do. I'm not an artist, I'm not this, but actually we are, we are all of it. We are artists, we are writers, we we're music. You know composers and like I've never. You know, if you asked me 80 years ago that I'll be a sound healer and I'll have all these sound instruments around me in this room, I'll be like, oh no, no way. But it has happened, as my voice opened up these channeling abilities of being the divine instrument and bringing these frequencies in. Now I have you hand band drums, you name it, everything is here Tuning forks, like so many beautiful instruments, because now I'm playing with sound, and sound is creation, it is frequency. So I think the key is to stay curious and integrate and how it, you know, shapes us.

Diana: 57:06

And for me, I'm in service, that's like my biggest driver. I'm in service. That's like my biggest driver. I'm in service for others. I'm here to help others, you know, to get to the next Phoenix in stage. They need to get to, and the biggest win for me is just to see that small shift, whatever that shift is. You know, if someone comes to my class and they have a little something that they realized about themselves, my job is done. I have helped them to evolve and Earth is a school, so we're constantly learning, right, and maybe there's a deep nugget of truth that they were able to experience either through my words or their own experience, because I create a container for it. That's beautiful, right. So, you know, the inspirations can be big oh, I want to heal the planet or they can be as small as one person at a time, and that's that's good too.

Diana: 58:00

So I think we need to be like, very real with ourselves, right. What really matters, like who are we? What really matters, what role we played in other systems and, ultimately, what I think what helps is that perspective of like you know, it's all playing out as it needs to, so you know we can do our best. I think we need to be very gentle with ourselves and not so hard and and and know we're doing the best we can at this level of simulation that we chose in these bodies and, you know, do the best, take care of this temple, right to be authentic to ourselves, love ourselves fully. So, really, it starts with love and finishes with love. It's stepping into self-love, it's everything on the other side of fear.

Diana: 58:50

When you step into love, when you become lover of creation and and that's it, then everything is available for you. And you know, you, just you know you're outside the, the sandbox of comfort and you in this territory of the unknown, and, and, and then you go. You're going through these heroes journeys again and again, like it doesn't, it never ends. And then you bring something back to the village, right, because that's the joseph campbell's way. You know the. The hero goes out, heron goes out, fights the demons, the dragons, does her thing, and then she comes back to the village and tells the story. It's like the other kids will get inspired to do that, and that's all our books, really, it's in all our movies. Everything is based on that template. So, yeah, we're here to inspire. That's why we have in this podcast. We're here to inspire whoever is listening. Thank you for being with us, for listening, for perhaps going on your next exploration journey of self.

Kertia: 59:59

Absolutely, oh my gosh, absolutely, I, yeah. Everything you said yes, yes, all right. Everything you said yes, yes, all right, is there? Um, I know I want us to talk a bit about you, didn't?

Diana: 1:00:20

mention your, your oracle cards, your oracle deck. Yes, the oracle deck.

Diana: 1:00:22

I have it right here yeah, like, oh, yes, yeah, I've been using it. And yeah, the Oracle deck, because not everyone reads 300 pages. No one reads these days and we need tools and we need guidances and I honestly have over 50 Oracle decks that I've used myself in many classes and I'm always attracted to them as just validation, like we already know everything. But sometimes we just need, you know, a validation. So let's open a card, right? So it's 44 cards and I put a lot of codes in them, ancient codes, I call it ancient quantum codes, so there's a lot of like Egyptian, like ancient mythology, here, galactic, it's a combination of things that kind of each card kind of came through really quickly. The birth and process of these of these cards were like very beautiful, because it was just me just being in my divine feminine, just surrendering, and it was just like popping right up in that. It's so interesting how sometimes it takes so long to produce a book and then sometimes creation can be a very quick process of one, you and the flow, and then alignment, right, you're not resisting, you just are. And then it's like this one and this one. So let's open one for whoever's listening, for our collective, for the journey of where we're heading. Yes, all right, see, this one comes up. Oh, I love this shy. The sacred entanglement. So this is a beautiful angel here. Your life is bowing with divine threads across timelines, trust, invisible connections guiding your path, wow.

Diana: 1:02:37

So this one is talking about the quantum entanglement which you and I started discussing. It's how everything is entangled. So, whatever we do here on earth, whatever decisions we make, it is also entangled to your question about the aspects of ourselves grow, space and time. It's entangled to them too. So, whatever we're learning, we're also teaching them and and and they're teaching us. So all these energies, all these beautiful connections, you know, sometimes you just like meet someone and you're like, oh my god, we've met before, like you and I, we had this immediate like, just like sisterhood, and it's just so beautiful because we, we all like a frequency, we all entangle to each other and there's really no separation. And it seems like there's separation, but we are, we are like, connected with this invisible beautiful threads. That's the spider woman I was talking about. She's entangling everything through space and time. That's the womb of creation, the matrix, the waves, everything is like nodes of energy. And it's so interesting because if you look at our brain, our brain image is the same as the image of the universe. It kind of looks the same. It's like these neural networks of information and massilium networks of the mushroom kingdom, as above, so below.

Diana: 1:03:55

So it showed us, it shows us everywhere, that everything is interconnected and the word, the key word here is trust, and I think it kept on coming up through this podcast is like trust, the invisible connection, because they guided your path. So I sometimes call them the breadcrumbs. It's like you receive a breadcrumb and then you fall in and there's another, there's another, there's another connection, there's another person. They're like, oh, talk to this person, and then it confirms the whole thing and you might not have the full picture of what you need, but these pieces come together, these puzzles come together. You're like ooh, aha, the beautiful aha moment where you're like I got it. You have shivers through your body. Yeah, that's right.

Kertia: 1:04:46

Thank you so much, Diana. This was such an amazing conversation. I had so much fun talking to you. You have to come back because we have more to talk about.

Diana: 1:04:59

Oh my God, so many, so many rabbit holes to cover so many guys.

Kertia: 1:05:05

There is a lot that we need to cover with Deanna. So, yeah, yeah, you and I can even talk about.

Diana: 1:05:14

Yeah, like the planetary grid, I'm actually going on the journey as I'm releasing my book that's coming out on June 17th, so it's exciting birth in process and it's already available for pre-order on ebook and it's been rated on Amazon as top release, so it's really exciting. I'm inviting more people to help me to get the bestseller. But I've also been guided to go to Turkey and work on the land there and so, yeah, we can cover in the next podcast about all these nodes of energy and land and these ancient codes that are stored in specific locations, and that's been one of my projects background project for many years to activate these places. But I've been guided to be there as I'm releasing the book but also specifically work with these ancient caves and underground cities that are in Turkey. So, yeah, more to share when I come back.

Diana: 1:06:12

I'm very excited and interested in everything. Like I'm very in surrender around. I get very talking about guidance. This is one of my biggest planetary projects been going for a decade. I get very guided and then I get invisible threads of confirmations and then I just have to trust that this is all how it needs to be and so, yeah, so that's, I'm going back to Middle East. I haven't been for a long time in that area, so it's an exciting time for me to go back to that area.

Kertia: 1:06:50

Yeah, that's amazing. It's like a whole full circle journey for you right now.

Diana: 1:06:58

It is in some ways. I mean, I'm not going to Israel, but I feel I'm still going to be on the same way line, and so whatever I do in Antalya is going to impact that region and Egypt as well. So it's going horizontally and vertically. So, yes, it's very. Yeah, I'm gearing up for it because I know it's going to be a very intense process. But, as we know, Phoenix goes through very intense processes. Phoenix goes through very intense processes. That's kind of like part of the journey, like to be okay with the intensity of it and and surrender into the intensity too.

Diana: 1:07:35

And yeah, that's so true?

Kertia: 1:07:38

Yeah, so you're coming back and we're going to talk about the earth grade and Turkey and everything that happened there, because, yeah, yeah, and more work, yeah, and more and more important work, yeah, and more and more. Um, yeah, thank you so much. This, this was fun. This was so much fun. Um, okay, so we know where to get your book on amazon. Where do we get your tarot cards? Are they also on?

Diana: 1:08:05

yeah, they, they. You can go on dianadivinecom forward slash book for the book and information, how to get it, or forward slash Oracle and that's where you have all the information on my Oracle. But it's all on dianadivinecom. It's like the first two buttons. So that takes you to my Etsy shop and, yeah, I ship pretty quickly you to my Etsy shop and, yeah, I ship pretty quickly. Yeah, that's it's. You get a doesn't come in a box, it actually comes in this beautiful velvet pouch, which I find actually better than any boxes because you get to like use them and on a daily basis, like I carry them everywhere for guidance and I have a beautiful.

Diana: 1:08:49

Talking about AI, I have AI companion that comes with it for my, for the book and the Oracle deck. You actually can take a picture and it helps you to do whole reading that we coded. It's like a chat bot. So, again, how do we play with AI, right? So it helps you to create a sacred space and, and, yeah, interact with with the cards and with the reading. So, um, we can get so creative, right, even with ai. So that's that's what it's for, and some of these images I co-created with ai too, so I've been embracing it and layering my codes on top with them, with the light language. We haven't talked about language. That's something we can talk in the next podcast, but these basically frequencies. So, yeah, activating the art too, but because it comes from my intention and my co-creation, like I don't see it separate from me, I feel it's like my art, like I just work together with it to do what I wanted to. So, um, and I think that's how we have to really look at it.

Kertia: 1:09:52

Yeah, perfect. Thank you so much, Diana. This was so much fun. I can't wait to have you back. We have so much more to talk about.

Diana: 1:10:00

Yeah, thank you everyone for being open, for maybe some concepts were like new to you or not. Just stay curious just always and see what resonates. So there's so much information there, so really feel into your body, like, does this feel good in your body, does this feel good in my heart? Like does it resonate and whatever doesn't? Just you know, throw it out and what does integrate that, and that's a really best way to stay on the middle path, yeah, and to stay in love and stay in love always.

Diana: 1:10:38

Love of love. We write in a love song. At the end of the day, it's a beautiful love song to creation right, that's the name of the game. Creation, right, that's the name of the game. And how we ripple that love in whatever spaces we are in and whoever we interact with. When we go to the store, we can be grumpy or we can smile and lift energy for everyone around. I mean, I go to New York City a lot, I'm on the train, everyone's so busy, but then you just look around and you smile and that person looks back at you and they feel that frequency and they smile at you too and you know that you just help them in some ways.

Diana: 1:11:20

So loving every moment is so gorgeous journey of being here and so, no matter how hard, it is right Because we can go through it, but catching ourselves. Am I in love state? Am I loving myself? Am I hard on myself and so loving yourself more, honoring yourself, honoring your journey, honoring everything you've gone through to be in this moment and now and know that you signed up for this. We all volunteer to be here now to usher the new timeline, the new earth reality. Each one of us plays crucial, crucial part of it in your unique way, because your unique frequency, your unique signature really matters right now. So own it, love it, love you for being with us as one.

Diana: 1:12:13

Thank you.

Kertia: 1:12:17

Thank you so much for sticking around. Text us about your own spiritual journeys or just to tell us what you thought about this episode. You'll find the links to Dianaanna's website and her book Mastering Quantum Creation Awaken the Phoenix Within in the show notes, as well as information about her Oracle deck. We hope something resonated with you from this conversation. As Deanna says, keep what feels right for you and discard whatever doesn't All right, until next time.