Death is Not The End | with Gloria Battini

Key Takeaways:

- Intuitive abilities are not special gifts, they are innate skills that are available to all of us. It is up to each individual to decide to train and exercise those abilities.

- Most deaths are actual exit points that our souls are aware of.

- Boundaries validates to ourselves and alerts the external world, how we should be treated and hence how the world should communicate/interact with us.

Psychic Medium, Energy Healer & Transformational Mentor, Gloria Battini has blessed us with an empowering message- that when we lose a loved one, our connection to them does not end, it evolves; that we are never alone and that what we call God, is already within every person.

Gloria touches on her transition from a strict Catholic upbringing, to decisive action and self-trust, unpacking how, mentorship and her personal knowledge of astrology, helped her to embrace her psychic abilities and embark on her current path. She speaks on practising ethical responsibility, highlighting that mediumship, while intense, is profoundly uplifting. Her stories are detailed and verifiable: a stack of pancakes with a single raspberry, a red rose, and her grandma helping her to cross over lost souls- each example showing how love continues with texture and meaning.

We also tackle hard questions with care. What is a “lost” soul, how does children, miscarriages, and abortion look through a spiritual lens? and why does war and misused power distort our collective intuition? Gloria argues that intention directs energy. She differentiates spirits from thought forms, cuts through fears about hauntings, and offers grounded advice- that the physical world is far scarier than the spiritual.

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All links to our guest's work and official site

Website ➡️ https://www.gloriabattini.com

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Chapters

• 0:00 New Year Wishes & Guest Intro
• 2:06 Intuition Is Not A Gift
• 6:09 Sensitivity to Spirits & Catholic Upbringing
• 8:45 Taking Aligned Action, Choosing Mentorship And Training
• 13:25 Clairvoyance, Clairsentience & Practice
• 15:40 We Are Never Alone & The Disconnection We Feel
• 19:19 Fear, Purpose & Systems That Distract
• 21:45 Astrology & Self Validation "The Bridge Between Worlds"
• 25:55 Mediumship Boundaries And Rituals
• 28:23 Energy Hygiene And Self-Care
• 31:13 Stories of Love, Proof of Life After Death, & Validation
• 38:32 Lost Souls, Crossing Over & Vibration
• 43:00 Lost Children, Untimely Death, Soul Agreements & Past Lives
• 52:40 War, Intention, And Misused Power
• 56:44 Spirits, Hauntings & Thought Forms
• 1:02:40 Building Energetic Boundaries Through Self-Respect & Self Responsibility
• 1:08:02 Staying Authentic Even if Your Family Doesn't Get It
• 1:13:10 Parting Message and How to Connect

Transcript

Kertia: 0:00

Happy New Year friends! I hope you all had a great holiday season. And my heart and prayers goes out to you if the holidays were particularly difficult for you, whether you experienced loss and grief or just had a rough time with family or life in general. I know that this is a season that can bring up many sensitivities for a lot of us. So I just wanted to acknowledge that before we begin. That being said, may this new year be brighter than the last. May you find your footing on the right path that is truly aligned for you. And may you be blessed in all that you do. So I previously recorded this episode a handful of months ago. So we're a little bit behind. But I had this amazing conversation with Gloria Battini. She is an experienced psychic medium and energy healer, effectively transforming lives through her readings, her mentorship programs, and various events. And she advocates for conscious living and self-empowerment by encouraging others to recognize their own innate power and intuitive abilities, among so many other things. Her work really does speak for itself. So during my sit-down with Gloria. She handed out so many gems in our conversation and in such a loving, compassionate, and grounded way. And I truly do hope that you all take away something that can be helpful in your own life from this episode. As a spiritual guide and medium, I'm really intrigued to know how this journey started for you. Were you always connected to your gifts?

Gloria: 2:09

Uh, right. A couple of things there. I need to say that these are not gifts. I really have to say it.

Kertia: 2:16

Okay, good, good.

Gloria: 2:18

I really have to say it that these are not gifts. So this is this is our intuition, you know? This is this really is our intuition. Every single person on the planet is born with an intuition. And we can obviously go to the gym for it and train it to the point then that you get to, you know, do mediumship and look into people's energy and doing energy healing and all this sort of stuff. But in terms of everyone being capable of doing that, yes, absolutely. It's definitely not um a special gift. No. And I am so determined in this journey of mine to just say this to as many people as I can because I think that actually, yeah, because uh, I mean, think about it, you know, I think that so many of us already think so little of ourselves, right? True, true, true. So little. And so if we or if we get if we think that these uh quote unquote abilities are special gifts, then we're never gonna think that we're good enough or that we're special enough to be able to do that, right? I know that at least I thought that for a very long time, right? I thought, oh, there's no way I have the gift, there's no way, right? Yeah, um, and so I think that part of I want part of my work to be um, you know, about this awareness. Yes, that's about this awareness.

Kertia: 3:49

Yeah, I love that you said that actually. Because we all have access to our intuition, we just tend to not tap into that or ignore it or just not develop it. So I think maybe we can use ability.

Gloria: 4:03

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ability. It's simply, it's simply, you know, someone there's people that you know play football really well, but they train their whole lives to get to the NFL, don't they? And so it's the same thing, you know, it's the same thing. You don't even have to train your whole life to be a medium, to be honest. And so that's not necessarily what it is. Um, but the more you train, the more you will feel confident in your abilities, and the more you will get in tune with them, which is what the journey is all about, really. Um, because I feel like so. You asked me if I felt anything, you know, since I was since I was a child, and I don't think I had the words to express it as I was a child. I could only say, you know, looking back, I was probably just a very sensitive child. I was very emotional. Um, and I just felt energy. But between that and being able to say what the energy was, no, I could not articulate that for sure. I didn't, you know, I it felt natural to me that when somebody passed away, you know, as you as you grow up and lose the, you know, the grandparents, unfortunately, they are usually the first ones to go. And I never felt like they had gone anywhere. Um, but it never occurred to me that it could be because it could I could be sensing them because of a psychic ability. You know, it never occurred to me that it could be that way. To me, it was simply like, well, because that's naturally what energy does. Like it was kind of like a natural understanding that I had of things, but I didn't have the proper language to articulate what I was experiencing. And then um uh for a very long time I was very disconnected, you know. I I was very lost, very disconnected. I was in a very uh unhealthy relationship for a very, very long time.

unknown: 5:55

Yeah.

Gloria: 5:55

And then when I got out of that relationship, I sort of started the journey back home to myself. And that's when I expanded a little bit more. And I remember doing a session with this um spiritual coach I was working every now and then at the time, and she mentioning and her mentioning that she felt like I had so many uh energies or spirits around me. And I said, Oh, so that's what it is. I literally like came down with with the realization. So is that what it is? This stuff that I'm feeling, and she's like, Yeah, she says, you know, possibly it is. Uh, but I thought, you know, isn't this how everybody feels? Like, can can isn't this just how energy works, you know? And she said, Well, it is, but not necessarily everyone has the awareness yet, you know. Um, and so she advised, she's like, Why don't you explore it a little bit? It could be really good for you. And so that's that's how we all started, you know. But I was already in my 30s when I did that. So yeah.

Kertia: 6:58

So, like growing up in Italy, what was your family like when it came to stuff like that? Were they super religious or were they like really aware of this um very intuitive spiritual side of life? What was that like for you? Did that did that kind of inform your own beliefs or the things that you were feeling at that time?

Gloria: 7:22

Yeah, this is this is such a this is so interesting, actually, because my family was uh very Catholic. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very religious. You were not allowed to um think certain things or say certain things. Um, to me personally, you know, you know, I was I was sent to Sunday school, I had my first communion, you know, the holy communion and all that. But I never really I never really understood it. It it was never a language that actually made a lot of sense to me, you know. Um, and so I I went with it because I didn't have any alternative. I wasn't given any alternative, you know. Um, but then growing up, I felt like more attracted to other things, but I couldn't because they were not true according to my upbringing, right? They were not true. The only person in my family was my mom a little bit, that but she wouldn't for the way that she was raised, bless her. I don't think she felt comfortable going necessarily against her parents, yeah. Um, but she's very much intrigued now when I do my work. She's she's always you know asking about the tarot and the astrology and the and the mediumship sessions and all this sort of stuff. So she's very intrigued now. But when I was growing up, it was very much a taboo, this sort of stuff. Yeah.

Kertia: 8:41

Yeah. Wow. So all right, lay it out for me. What happened? When did you really begin to like seriously hone in on your abilities when you recognize that this is something that you can actually work with when you because you also do mediumship? How did that all come about for you?

Gloria: 9:03

Yeah, I decided, I made a decision. I made a decision to stay true to my own authenticity and to allow myself to explore um without caring about what anybody was gonna say or think.

Kertia: 9:21

Yeah.

Gloria: 9:22

You know, I just I just chose to let's see. You know, let's see. I I chose to give myself space, I think. That's a way, a good way to describe it. Yeah. I chose to give myself space. And then I um it was one New Year's Eve a few years ago. I jotted down my wishes for the following year, and I wrote down that I wanted to find a mentor to help me understand this kind of world, you know, how it all worked and whether it was possible for me or not. And I think it was February of the following year that this person came into my life, and we still work together to this day because we teach together now. Um but uh but that's that's how it went for me. It it was that internal decision of allowing myself to explore something that did not make sense for a lot of people in my life, but it felt very aligned to who I was, and so I I literally decided no, I'm gonna choose this because I have to have a bit of sense of urgency in the side. You know, I have to I have to to to honor the gift of life that has has been given to me, and therefore I I gotta go this way, you know.

Kertia: 10:35

Yeah, tell me more about your abilities. I'd love to know how did you kind of figure out um, I guess, which ones you were a little bit stronger in and which ones you wanted to work with. Yeah, I'd love to know more about your abilities.

Gloria: 10:49

It's uh it's a very it's very interesting. Definitely the first one that came through for me was clairvoyance. Um, I feel I I see a lot. Uh at least that was the actually, that was the easiest one. That's why it came through first, I think. Um, because I've always been very good at visualizing. Usually um people who are good at visual arts or you know, like photography or painting or stuff like that, they usually are great clairvoyants as well. And so that was something that came to me um very easily. Um, but as I was doing my training, so sorry, so my decision to give that space to myself that I was talking about earlier was to then actually go and properly train, you know, and work with my mentor who trained me uh on a one-to-one basis for a few months to do this. So that's how I went about it. And so during uh my training, I yeah, clairvoyance was the first one. And then the more I trained and the more I practiced, I really set the intention to just allow myself to be completely open. Um, because one of the things that you learn during training is to bypass your analytical mind, right? Because you have because the analytical wine is the mind is the one that makes you question things, and very often it's the one that says, you know, something comes through, you know, during a reading, and the analytical mind goes, you made it up. That's not true, that's not possible, right? So it's that second guessing. So once I chose to shut that out um and just go with completely just opening my senses and read with my whole body, then I started getting a lot more. Now I'm I'm I'm very, very clairsentient. So I feel a lot through my body. I feel a lot, so I feel colors, I feel sounds, everything through the body. So when I'm doing a reading, I um I connect to the energy that I'm whether it I'm reading a a person, maybe I'm doing like a past life reading or something for a person, or I'm talking to a soul on the other side. The the the experience for me is very similar. Yeah, I simply connect to the energy, and then just I allow this energy to communicate with me, and I truly feel that all I'm here to do is translate. That's that's what I feel, you know. Like I allow this energy to talk to me and I translate it into English. That's it, that's all that happens, yeah. But in this in the energetic space, I receive colors, words, uh, images, sensations in my body, sounds like it's all a mixture mixture of multiple things, and then I convey them, you know. Um, which is very yeah, it's very interesting. It feels great, it it really feels great uh to be in that space.

Kertia: 13:52

That's really amazing. So, you know, growing your abilities, getting stronger in your abilities, you know, what has it really, I mean, taught you or showed you about this reality that we live in?

Gloria: 14:09

A couple of things, I think. Um first one that was a big game changer for me, and it was very early in my training, um, was that we're not alone. We're never alone. Even when we think that we're alone, we're not. And expanding our intuitive abilities, training ourselves, whether you want to do it because you want to become a practitioner or you just want to train yourself because you want to enhance your life, because we have plenty of people that come and train just because they want to be able to experience that more in their life, you know, they're not necessarily everybody wants to be a medium. Um, but one of the first things is that you realize that you're actually connected to everything, you know? And since that first training that I that I had, um I never felt alone ever again. I never felt alone. I always feel so supported. I always feel like there's somebody there for me. Um, I have visited so many different things that I never thought I would feel in my life, you know, like so many journeys um just just through um psychic abilities and through meditation, you know, so many things that I never thought I would ever experience. So the first one would be that uh it's definitely taught me that if we open up, we we can really understand that we're never alone. And and I think that that's a that's a significant thing in this day and age to understand and to and to really lean into the fact that even if we are alone in a room, energetically we're we're not, and we have so much support around it around ourselves. So that that was a big um big realization for me, and that changed a lot, and it it changed uh the way that I approach life, it changed how I feel about things, how I feel about myself. Like it it changed a lot, a lot of things for sure. It'll definitely be the biggest thing. Um and also uh it taught me that there's so much that we are blocked to. Yeah, so much that we're blocked to, whether it's because we don't believe in ourselves or because we are following somebody else's path instead of our own, maybe we're stuck in fear, but a lot of the life experience that that a lot of what we experience in the physical life is not good for us, yeah. It's really not good for us, and I didn't understand the extent of it until I opened up to this other world.

Kertia: 17:07

Yeah, tell me some more about that. Tell me some more about your discovery of that and you know your thoughts on what it is about this life, about this reality that blocks us so much or anything, just anything about what you just described to me.

Gloria: 17:29

I think that the way that I'm I've been trying to figure this out, and the way that I'm the way that I'm understanding it is that which is which is literally the reason why I do what I do, and it's and it's part of my mission. Um, I think that we're ultimately we every single person on the planet, in my opinion, is here to do something. And it happens in very different ways for each and every one of us, but I think that for all of us is about coming home. Yeah, it's about coming home to ourselves, in whichever way we're meant to experience it, right? Yeah, for whatever reason, um I've observed that there is a a huge amount of fear about that journey of coming home to ourselves. Yeah, a huge amount of fear, a huge amount of insecurity, a huge amount of pain. And I think that a lot of people are trying to sorry, a lot of people are thinking think that they are doing something about the pain, but they keep themselves stuck in it. Yeah. And I think it's this whole world that we live in. I think it's it's been designed in a way to make us not connect to ourselves to keep us in the pain. I think it's it really is purposely designed that way. Because imagine, now imagine if there's, you know, however many of us it is on this planet, eight billion people on the planet. Imagine everybody felt truly connected to their purpose. Imagine, right? Imagine how the economy would change, how the planet would change, right? How people's habits would change in the way that we spend, in the way that we, you know, go about our life, the things that really matter to us, the things that don't, right? Um, if we were all connected to our purpose, if we were all connected to our intuition, intuition and really trusted it, I do truly believe that somebody will lose out.

Kertia: 19:52

That's true.

Gloria: 19:52

You know?

Kertia: 19:53

That is so true. Yeah.

Gloria: 19:55

And yeah, and something makes me think that there's um There's a design. You know, there's a there's there's the world is being designed in a certain way for a certain reason.

Kertia: 20:07

Yeah, to keep us stuck in the fear and the pain and all of that because then it's easy to control you from that, you know, when you're stuck in that, it's definitely easy to control and to convince people to do things that are not healthy for them, you know, or to convince them that something that is unhealthy is healthy for them. So yeah, it's kind of like living in this upside down kind of reality, but I feel like it's I feel like it's slowly improving, even though it doesn't feel like it. Because like of conversations like this, I see more and more people be open to these kind of conversations and people are exploring and people are seeking alternatives. So I definitely think that is improving, even though sometimes it doesn't feel like it at all.

Gloria: 21:10

Yeah, I agree with you. I agree with you. I think that there's a lot more openness now, yeah. And I think it's I think it's great, yeah, yeah. Yeah, finally I think we're getting somewhere.

Kertia: 21:23

Yeah. So being a medium and how is it that you you help people with connecting with their loved ones that are passed on? Like, how how did you even because you know, as we were talking about just the fear and being programmed in a way to think that these things are not okay and we should be doing that, and it's blasphemous and blah blah blah, right? Did you have any fears, first of all, going into this, or maybe because you had a mentor, did that kind of help you to lean more into it? How did that work for you? And I'd love for you to tell me more about your medianship and what you've discovered through working um through doing that type of work.

Gloria: 22:12

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what gave me massive validation? Uh astrology, actually.

Kertia: 22:21

Wow.

Gloria: 22:22

Yeah, it gave me massive validation because I I've I've been uh studying astrology myself, um you know, by myself, says self-taught, uh, for about five or six years now. And uh the more I um discover, I I specifically love personal astrology, so our birth charts. I don't know how familiar you are with with with those, but yeah, it's our birth chart, so it's it's essentially like a map of the sky at the moment that you were born, right? And it tells us a little bit more about your energetic imprint, essentially. And so I had been doing I've been studying my own birth chart a little bit, and basically I've I've I have this habit, I have this thing that I do that whenever I am facing something new in my life that I don't necessarily understand or I don't know how to navigate, I revert back to my chart. So let's say, for example, I was studying uh psychic, uh psychic skills, I would do my psychic training, and I thought, what can what can I look at in my own energetic blueprint in my own birth chart that tells me a little bit more about how my energy is around these things, right? Oh and um and so I did, and so I I went and and picked up those specific uh things um that have to do with spirituality, that have to do with the um with the uh with the unknown, you know, this sort of energies. And uh and and and basically that's exactly what it pointed to. What it pointed to, it pointed to being a bridge between two worlds, it pointed to you know, communication between two different realities and two different worlds. And I thought, oh, okay, so that uh I feel okay now. It's it was almost like that permission slip, you know, it's it was like it was a question mark for so long, because as I said, we doubt ourselves so much, right? We feel attracted to something. I always had this interest and this attraction attraction for mediumship and for understanding the other side and what happens after we die and all these things. Um, but having seen it as actually being something that's part of my energetic blueprint, it gave me that permission to be myself. I know that we shouldn't need this. I know that we shouldn't need this. Okay, we shouldn't. We should just feel like we can definitely be ourselves, but um, it doesn't always happen this way. And that to me, that for me was uh was a really significant moment when I thought, oh, okay, so if it's part of my energy, then then okay, then it makes sense, right? And he gave me that massive validation, and and then from there I just thought, you know what, this is what I'm supposed to be experiencing, and I'm just gonna let the information come through. And I just opened up to it completely, and I stopped like blocking myself, second guessing myself, and all these sort of things, and it just went uh, you know, became better and better ever since. So to me, it was that opened up a lot to me.

Kertia: 25:40

Yeah, that's really beautiful. That's really beautiful, Gloria. So, what is it like when you're working with someone and your loved one starts coming through?

Gloria: 25:54

So I am not one of the I I love boundaries. Boundaries are one of my favorite topic. So I am not one of those, I'm not one of those mediums that's that I don't know if there are, I know that there are mediums like this that they constantly keep their energy open. I don't. I'm like, no. If I'm out and about doing my life, you don't get to come in, okay? You leave me alone. I need time by myself, I need time to just be, you know. And when I decide that it's the right time, then we can connect.

Kertia: 26:29

Okay, good.

Gloria: 26:30

So I don't uh I don't keep myself open all the time. No, I don't. Um, I find it otherwise very overwhelming. Um I it's it's a very yeah, it's it's a really full-on experience to just do a mediumship session for for someone or mediumship reading for someone. And and then I thought, imagine if I were to just keep it open while I'm at the supermarket or while I'm like out and about somewhere, you know? And I was like, nope, not gonna happen. Not gonna happen. And so I am very intentional about it. I have rituals around it. Every time I I start uh a session, I set up my I set up the room for it, I set up the space, I go into a specific meditation, I call the person through. Well, first of all, I don't always know who I'm gonna speak to. So if somebody books a mediumship reading with me, I just open up, I just set the intention that I'm going to be doing a reading for that person, and if there's anybody on the other side who wants to speak to them. And so at that moment, I create the energetic channel between their two energies. And uh and I see sometimes there's people that come even before we start the session. They say, Yes, I'm their father, mother, brother, sister, friend, whatever. And and and then when the person comes on, they say, Oh, I wanted to speak to so and so. And so if it matches the person that I have, then I tell them, Oh, they're already here. Uh, otherwise, I say, Well, actually, we also have like your grandmother here. Would you like to speak to her? And so we just we just start the conversation like that. But I am very, very intentional and I have very, very solid boundaries.

Kertia: 28:08

That's really good. Yeah, because I I can only imagine how draining it can be if everything's coming at you all the time. So, what are some of the practices that you do to kind of like I guess protect your energy?

Gloria: 28:21

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, first of all, I um I meditate uh every day. I uh I cleanse my energy every day multiple times a day. Um I do cleanse my energy before and after every session. I could not do it like without. I have to have the space before, the space after to decompress. It is a very, very uplifting thing to do. So it could be sometimes tiring, but it's a very uplifting thing to do. So, in a way, it also gives you energy, it does give me energy to read for somebody else, right? To connect to the other side. I I have loads of fun with it. I ask loads of questions to them. I'm always like super curious. People tell me that they feel like they're they're attending Oprah because they're like, you feel like you have them on your couch and you're just interviewing them. That's really funny. I love that. Yeah, I really, I really love that uh to keep it a conversation. And to my clients, I say, you know, I'm just here to be a translator simply because I happen to have studied the language of energy and you didn't. Otherwise, if you had studied the language of energy, you could do it yourself. That's it. I'm always like very, very transparent about these things, you know. And so I'm just there to translate. And I honestly feel um like it's the honor of my life when somebody comes to me and says, I would like you to speak to my mom on the other side. I really take that as such an honor that somebody would want me to speak to their mom. Like that to me is so heartwarming, so such a beautiful honor. Um, and so I feel like it's all a beautiful gift that I get to experience. Like I feel like the whole connecting to them and and the whole conversation, it feels really, really uplifting. But it can be tiring. Uh, so I don't do more than a certain amount of sessions a day. Um, two, possibly three is already a lot. Um, so I do that. I spend a lot of time by myself. A lot of time by myself. I need a lot of time in nature as well. So I've I've I've changed a lot. I did not used to be like this at all. But the more I do this, the more peace I find, and the more I need to keep it. The peace, you know.

Kertia: 30:47

Yeah, that's pretty cool. So, you know, work having worked with people and interviewing their loved ones like Oprah. Um I I'd love to know. I'm really intrigued to know, like, can you recall for me any like really impactful or profound sessions that you've had?

Gloria: 31:10

We had many, we had many. I mean, I've connected people to their um I've connected people who were trying to find out how their loved one had passed and whether there was something that they could do about you know the consequences of that because for some people it was um you know hospital uh situation that had caused the passing, so not necessarily, you know, the person. Um, and so there's always this um really beautiful uh thing about trying to find out that what happened um that I find very, very interesting. So we had a few of those. I had so many husbands, so many husbands coming through for their wives, and so many dads for their daughters. And these I have to say are some of the most heartwarming, heartwarming ones. Um I get very emotional myself because I let me tell you, there is you we feel that anger and frustration are overwhelming emotions, yeah. Yeah, but let me tell you, unconditional love, it's a very overwhelming thing to feel when you get that huge wave, you know, and I had it so many times for husband from husbands on the other side or fathers on the other side, especially for their daughters, that wave of unconditional love, and I literally feel it like a tsunami that hits my body, you know. That's a very, very hard thing to contain. So that's one of the things that makes me the most emotional. So when we had connected fathers and daughters very often, now I've honestly I've done hundreds and hundreds of them. So, and they're all incredibly special. Um, but those are some of the ones that I that I really enjoyed the most. Um, and the husband that just cruis. I remember um there was not actually what was it actually? It was her husband, yes, yes, yes. Um she there was somebody in my audience and um I had this man that just said, I just I just need to give something to my wife. I just need to give them this. Uh and he was standing there with a with a tray, with a with a plate with a tower of pancakes and a raspberry on top. Yeah, and I'm like, I do not know who you want to speak to. You need to tell me who it is that you want to speak to, because we have like almost 100 people here. I need to need to know who it is. And so they gave me a red rose, and then they gave me this like that they were there with this like plate with this stack of pancakes with a raspberry on, and I was like, this might not make sense to anybody, but please, is there some if I tell you that I have somebody here with a red rose with a stack of pancakes and a raspberry? Is that saying anything to anyone? And this one was like, Oh my god, that's my husband. He used to make that for me every Sunday, used to be our thing, and he yeah, and he would buy her roses, and so he came through and I was like, Is that her? And he's like, Yes, he said, tell her that we're dancing, tell her that we're dancing, and so I told her, and she she was like, Yes, we used to do that all the time. So I like it when I don't know who I'm reading for, and there's somebody that comes through, and I try to find them in the audience. Sometimes we don't find them, yeah. I uh I still have uh one little soul um whom I'm not I've not been able to find our mama yet, but I absolutely will. I am determined to find our mama every now and then he comes through. He's a little boy, every now and then he comes through and he's like, Is my mama gonna be there for me today? I was like, I don't know, we're gonna ask, we're gonna ask, we're gonna see. Yeah. Uh so I haven't been able to find his mama yet, but um, I absolutely will because I promised him said we're gonna find her, we're gonna find them. Yeah, and then actually, most recently, this was really interesting. Actually, most re more recently I've had someone uh come through and he's she said, I want to speak to my sister-in-law, and uh and I was like, okay, and she showed me a huge head of curly hair, you know, like a huge head of unruly curls, you know, with curly hair. And she said, I want to speak to my sister-in-law because I need to speak to my husband. And I was like, Okay, don't you want to speak to your husband? She's like, No, I really specifically have to speak, I have to speak to my sister-in-law. And when I said uh, and then I started the session and I said to the audience, I have somebody here that wants to speak to their husband that specifically asked to speak to their sister-in-law. So, did your sister-in-law pass, you know, a few quite recently, da-da-da. And this woman came through and she said, Yes, it's me. It's definitely my sister-in-law, because uh her husband doesn't want to open up to any of those things. He's suffering, he's in pain, he's completely closed off. And I know why she wants to speak to me because she wants me to tell him that he should open up, but she's like, I've been trying so much, and he just doesn't want to. He doesn't want to. Yeah, but yeah, and that's one of the reasons why that I do it, you know, because there's so many people in pain. So many people in pain. And one of the things that I've understood the most with with mediumship specifically, is that actually uh death is not the end, yeah. Um we have this final, you know, concept of what death is, but you know, from my experience, that's it's not the end of anything. What I've come to understand is that that it's a change in language, that's what it is. That's what I feel that death is. Is it's a change in conversation, it's a change in the language that we use. Because we are over here in the I mean, everything is energy, regardless, right? Everything is energy, whether we see it or not, everything is energy. Um, but us with the physical body, we can express ourselves through our voice because we have physical vocal cords and we can speak, right? But everything else that we cannot access through a physical device communicates through energy, right? And so if we when we lose someone, if we open ourselves up to learning the language that they are speaking now, the conversation doesn't have to end. The relationship doesn't have to end, the relationship can evolve in so many ways. In so many ways, they can help us heal, they can help us move on. I mean, my grandmother, bless her. I had um, she's one of the most important people in my life. I love her so much. And now she's whenever I find a lost soul, she's like, come on, I'll take them. And she takes them to toward the light, and she's uh so it's so yeah, and it's so good to be able to do that with her. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like it's so good that when I needed help, and I didn't even choose that. When I needed help, um, the first time I found a lost soul. Um when I needed help, I just asked, I don't know how to do this. I said, I don't know how to send them to the other side. And she's like, You don't have to know. I she just literally appeared and she's like, You don't have to know. I'll I'll do it for you. I'll take it for you.

Kertia: 39:15

Oh my goodness. Tell me more about that though. Like, how does a soul get lost? Like, is it that they didn't know that they have passed or they're confused around the circumstances? How does that even happen?

Gloria: 39:29

Yeah, very often happens that when somebody is is either like a violent death or um or yeah, in it unexpected, um, they very often don't either they don't know where they are, which has happened, um, that I found somebody that didn't know where they were. Wow. Or they do, but they are angry. They're angry, frustrated because of what happened, how it happened. And so they hold that frustration, that anger. And so when I find them, I very often say, you can tell when somebody has crossed or not. You can tell. The vibration is totally different when they come through. Completely different. The energy is completely different. You can really sense it. Um, because they're always on a higher vibration than us, because obviously they don't have a physical body, right? So whenever they are on the other side, I say quote marks because the other side is not someplace else. It's just this side, same as us. It's just the the energy part of it, essentially. So it's not somewhere else. But anyway, let's call it mainstream. Let's call it the other side. So if they have crossed, the vibration is high, you can tell. So they come through, they're very light, they feel totally different. If I connect and I get a sense of stress, a sense of um frustration, anger, that sort of stuff, I immediately know that there's something that didn't go right, there's something wrong.

unknown: 41:08

Yeah.

Gloria: 41:08

And very often, yes, they don't know what happened. Well, they do know what happened, but they don't know uh where they are, they don't know um what to do. Um, they don't want to go. And it they because they feel like if they go, that actually I've heard this uh quite often. Um, I don't want to let them go. Like I don't want to cross because I don't want to let my go of my family. And so I always have to say to them, you won't, you will feel them more because they're like, I can't find them. I've been trying to get through to them, why they can't hear me. I was like, they can't hear you because you're here. So and then they cross, and then when they come back, they uh have a very different vibration and and it it gets easier, it gets easier, but it's uh yeah, it's very powerful to find someone stuck, and uh as as as a medium, we have a duty of you know of helping them. We have to help them, we can't just leave them there. Um so yeah, it's very interesting. It can be very, very sad, and that's more tiring. Yeah, that's more physically proving on the on the body for sure. Yeah.

Kertia: 42:26

Wow. It's really cool that your grandma comes through to help you with that though. Yeah, yeah. That's so good. Yeah, as you said, like it's like a skill, like anything else, developing the skill, like having the mediumship ability, then being able to develop the skill to maybe cross someone over when they're kind of stuck in this, I know, in this in a certain dimension and they don't want to move forward or they don't know how to. Yeah, I I can't even imagine what that would be like. My goodness. So, like, what do you think about because I know in this reality here, when we have someone that passed suddenly, for example, or young, we usually say, um, you know, like they went too soon. Do you think that do you think that that is like valid that someone passed too soon, or do we all go at the time that we're meant to go?

Gloria: 43:29

I think we all go at the time we're meant to go. I think so. I think so. Um it's a very, very fine line because when you think, you know, especially children, yeah, you know, how can that be, you know, possible, you know? Yeah, but I think it's hard for us to comprehend because we are in the physical world. Yeah, um, I've connected to so many babies, so many babies on the other side, born and unborn babies, yeah. So loads of mamas that had miscarriages and and all of that. And the the thing that I hear the most from the kids is like, thank you for being my mom for that for that time, because that's what I needed. I just needed to be there, I just needed to experience it that way. Thank you for giving me the love. Thank you for allowing me to be born or allowing me to just be in your body for as long as I needed to, and that's what I needed to experience. And and there's so much peace when they come through, so much peace. I always feel that it's um uh there is more us that are really um stuck with a certain view of things, you know. I really feel that on the other side, like spiritually, I really feel that uh for them it's so much more uncomplicated. Yeah, you know, and I have not especially children, actually, now that I'm thinking back, um, I've not found uh someone that was distressed. The like children are very, very grateful. Very, very grateful, very grateful to their mothers, to their parents for having been able to just experience what they needed to in this life. And also, I I also feel like I really believe in parallel lives and past lives as well. I think there's a lot there too, and and I can sense how we are connected through lifetimes, and very often, you know, children um we meet them again, very often we meet, we meet uh, you know, our souls again. Um, actually, I'm gonna make you smile. Um really good one of my best friends, uh, she has a four-year-old, and I think it was last year, so she would have been three, right?

unknown: 46:00

Yeah.

Gloria: 46:00

Uh last year she was playing with her parents, and she said, Do you remember mom when I was your mom? Wow. Yes. And she said, Well, do you think so? Crazy. Wow. She says, Yes. She says, When I was your mom, you really liked playing this game, and they were like pretending like having tea, you know. Yeah. And she's like, You really like playing this when I was your mom. Oh my goodness. Yes, it's so beautiful, isn't it? Yeah, that is amazing.

Kertia: 46:33

Yeah, I know, like, because I'm a mom too. Sometimes I wonder, like, hmm, like what kind of relationship that I have with these children, you know, in some other dimension in a past life or yeah, because like I feel like kids are such like like being a parent is like a spiritual thing. Like, it's very spiritual. It teaches you so much about yourself. There's just so much growth. And when you come to a certain level of awareness and introspection, it's just mind-blowing what it means to be a parent and you know, birth children, even if you don't birth them, like even adopted children or children that you know end up in your care for whatever reason, it is such a spiritual pursuit, like seriously. Yeah, and I think um that is something that it's so easy to take for granted, right? But yeah, anything is. I mean, everything about life is spiritual anyway. But then when it comes to these really close relationships, these bonds that we form with people, like there's just so many levels to that that we don't understand or we don't remember. Yeah. So it's really fascinating. I'm I'm curious to know though, since we're on the topic of children, you know, in the U in the US, there's been this long-standing debate and you know, upheaval about abortion and abortion rights and things like that, you know, for the babies that get aborted. For me, I'm I have zero judgment as to what anyone decides to do with their body. But what do you think, like from a spiritual perspective and what you know of like life and death and all this stuff, how do you then how can you help people to like reconcile with something like that, like something like abortion that is so heavy for a lot of people?

Gloria: 48:46

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that actually mediumship is a beautiful tool for that. Um, I think connecting with the souls of the unborn babies, it's a beautiful way to have a conversation and understand what, you know, have uh not necessarily closure, because I don't think there ever is closure because our souls are so connected, you know. Um, but at least understanding, understanding um why things went the way that they did, and actually for the mothers to know that you know, possibly that's what the baby also wanted, if that's what the mother wanted, you know? Um very often there's a there's a there's a type of reading that we can do with with people, this which is not mediumship, but it's simply looking around their energy for any like spare guides or beings and stuff like that. Do you know how many babies I see around people? So many babies. Wow. So many babies, yes, very often. And when I asked the babies, I was like, What do you do here? What are you doing in this person's energy? And they're like, I'm just checking them out. I'm just checking them out. I like being here, and maybe I might be choosing them as mothers. I was like, okay, that's great. Okay. So we always have so, you know, it it is not it is not a strange thing to see around somebody's energy to have babies, and uh, and I feel like there are so many souls, not all of them get to be in the physical world all the time. You know, some of them they just need to maybe that's the experience that their soul wanted to have at that time. And honestly, so many of the so many of the unborn babies that I connected with had only thank you to say to their mums. Only thank you. Yeah.

Kertia: 50:47

Yeah, that definitely takes a lot of the heaviness off because I think there's a lot of shame, there's a lot of guilt, yeah, even regret, like all sorts of like lower frequency ideas and things around that. And as you said, like the souls do come in and decide to have that experience, even though it's really hard for us to wrap our heads around. Maybe you have a soul contract with that soul to do that, right? Yeah, the soul wanted to experience that for their own reason, whatever it is that they wanted to learn or grow from. So yeah, and but to us in this for like very physical world and the ideas that we have, the concepts that we that we adhere to and believe in, it's hard for a lot of people to understand that it's okay, there's no judgment, you know, it's all love at the end of the day. Yeah.

Gloria: 51:43

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And uh, I want to address something because I know I know that a lot of people will be thinking about this as we as we are on the topic of you know, children. Um, is all of the all of the kids uh in war zones, right? Oh yeah have they actually like what is happening with them, you know? And it's again like it's a very, very hard thing to to understand and to wrap your head around it. And it takes a lot. I mean, I've been thinking about it, you know, so much, um, especially with with the work that I do and stuff. And I when we have these, when we decide to embrace our psychic abilities, the thing that matters the most is our intention. Okay. In general, actually, not only whether you decide to embrace your your psychic abilities or not, like in general, intention is what's going to direct energy, right? And I feel that there are people that are going to utilize their intuitive power because, in a way, it does give you a lot of power, right? So it's it's a very empowering thing, it's a very um, it's a very powerful thing. And so a lot of people are going to are deciding to utilize this for good and to be ethical, and they decide to heal themselves and utilize whatever they have learned and everything for the greater good and to help. Okay. But let's not forget that there's always another side of things as well, right? There's always things, there's always going to be people who are going to try and twist things. You know, there are people out there with bad intentions. You know, there are people out there that decide I want to develop my psychic abilities so that I can do something else, right? And and uh exercise my power over someone else, right? Not everyone decides that the greater good or service is what they want to do, right? Just people who are gonna utilize their power in very different ways, right? So when it comes to especially wars and things like that, I feel that they and and sorry, backtrack a second. I also feel that the people with the bad intentions are usually the ones that have the most insecurities, that don't want to face themselves, right? They have the most insecurities that don't feel enough. But the thing is that when we when we because most of us have insecurities, but when we face them and we heal them and we move on from them, then the energy that we put out there is is of one sort of vibration, right? But when we don't and we try to bypass them and we try to lean into power before we have healed, then the effect is very different, right? And so, but ultimately there are all people that are very, very insecure. So whoever is at the is it that it's fighting a war, there are so many in the world right now, right? So whoever it is that is fighting the wars on both sides, they are dealing with whatever power is driving them, is a very low vibrational and secure kind of energy. Okay, very low vibrational, very insecure kind of energy. When it comes to children and their innocence and their energies, very, very high vibrational, very, very high vibrational. So when we have these sorts of energies, and also children are usually very empathic as well. So when we have these sorts of low, insecure energy, that's where they're going to want to feed, isn't it? That's what's going to attract them. Okay. So as much as I do believe that there are so many children that come and they are meant to experience, you know, a short life. I also know that when, especially when it's in war zones, especially when it's in a in a in a situation like that where there's so many low vibrational energies, I know that they are being overpowered as well. So that might not have been necessarily what was meant for them, for sure. So I do feel that there's different things. But again, I've been thinking about this for so long. I've been trying to wrap my head around how could this be, you know, how could this work, that there's wars in the world, you know, how could this actually, you know, and I just I I can't move on from thinking that it's all due to just insecurities and people using their their powers to to take instead of give. And that's all rooted in just being unloved, yeah, you know, and not being able to love. So it's uh there's two very different things, isn't it? Yeah, it's very hard to to wrap our head around it for sure.

Kertia: 56:43

Absolutely. So you know, when you have things like that, and you know, of course, you mentioned before earlier when souls kind of get stuck on a certain plane of existence when they probably had a violent death or something sudden and what have you, then how then can we like those souls that kind of get stuck or lost or they're afraid to cross over or they don't even know where they are, whatever the case may be, do they kind of interact or affect the rest of us here who are still in our bodies? How does that play out when you have souls who are just like still hanging on? Like, how does that work?

Gloria: 57:37

No, I don't think that they influence us in in any way. I don't think so. Um no, it doesn't make sense to me that they would do something to us. No, no, I don't think so. I don't think so. I know that there's playful spirits around and that that you know that flicker the lights and do loads of different things, you know, around for sure. Um, not all of these spirits have to be stuck, you know. Certainly some of these spirits are trying to reach out in some way for sure. Yeah, definitely. Uh to ask for help, indeed. So, in a way, if we get to communicate with a spirit that is trying to come through onto this side, then you know, trying to communicate with us and with different methods, then yes. But yeah, other than that superficial influence, you know, of just trying to get our attention, I I no, I don't think that they do anything else, honestly.

Kertia: 58:31

Yeah, because I think that is also one of the fears that people have around um souls who are still somewhere here lingering around for whatever reason. I think we associate a lot of fear with that as something to be afraid of or something to be careful of. So yeah, I just wanted to know from your experience, like, you know, them being here, is there an interaction? Like how they how do what is the interaction like when if they choose to interact? So because I think like we've spoken about um, you know, in society, the hauntings and all of these different things. So like yeah, I was really curious into that. As do souls really intend to haunt people? Um, yeah, because like it's just to kind of like address, I guess, those fears and those concerns that the rest of us who haven't really developed our abilities to that extent to really understand what's happening.

Gloria: 59:41

Yeah. Um again, with it, it's it's something that's hard for sure to understand. Um, something that is hard to understand. But when it comes to the spiritual world, if there's one thing that I would like everybody to know, is that there There's nothing in the spiritual world that is gonna harm you more than something that can happen to you in the physical world. Okay, there is nothing there. Okay, there is nothing, right? There is nothing there. Some people are like, oh my god, it's so scary. I was like, no, it isn't more scary than going out, maybe I don't know, at three o'clock in the morning in a big city, you know, by yourself. Like there's it's not scarier than that. Okay, there's a lot more things that can harm us in the physical world than there are in the spiritual world for sure. Yeah. Um, in terms of the of the spirits of uh people who have passed, I feel that um I don't know, there could be some, you know, haunting, but I I would think that that's very rare. I would think that that's very rare. You know, maybe there are objects in which they channel their energy for the purpose of trying to communicate, yes, but like possessing a body, you know, that sort of stuff. I don't think that that's dead people that do that. I don't think so. What I do think though is that um there are all sorts of energy when we think about energy and spirit, you know, the dead are a tiny population, you know, like the dead are just uh right are small or a small amount of all different sorts of spirits that can be out there. Yeah, and so uh do I believe that so look, for example, cla it what classified also classifies also as spirit world is thought forms, right? Because they have an energy in and of itself. Thought forms, it's us that make them.

unknown: 1:01:55

Right?

Gloria: 1:01:55

It's us that's produce them, and those are more likely to give us issues than dead people are. Okay, so we really have to understand that not the the the harm or the issues, it's I would say it's very unlikely to come from the dead. Very unlikely, very unlikely. That there's so but that there are you know lower vibrational beings, lower vibrational spirits, thought forms, whatever. Yeah, that certainly we have to have very strong boundaries for. But I always find that the more the stronger boundaries we have with ourselves, the less of these issues we will have, you know?

Kertia: 1:02:35

Yeah, tell me more about developing these boundaries. Tell me more about that because I think generally speaking, we need to have boundaries with the people that are still in bodies, right? That are still here incarnated on earth. I think that is something it took me even a long time to even know what boundaries were, much less to exercise them. So, and it's still a practice, a growing practice for me in just my day-to-day relationships. So there's the boundaries where yes, like you need to have those for the people that you encounter in life in this reality, and then there's still the energetic thinking about having those energetic boundaries as well. I love for you to um yeah, get into that and break it down for us. Yeah.

Gloria: 1:03:23

Oh my goodness, yeah, I love boundaries, and it's not my favorite topic for sure. So I so ultimately, what are boundaries? Boundaries is how we communicate to the to the external world or also to ourselves, uh, how to communicate with us, right? How to tell others what is okay or not okay to do with us or in relation to us. Okay, ultimately, that's what a boundary is. And so you have to think those terms to be physical, so what somebody can in a way that how somebody can touch you, but also physical in terms of um other people in our lives and what they're how they're allowed to interact with us. You have to think on a on an energetic level. So if we know that there are so many different energies around us, how can I look my after myself so well so that those energies are not even bothered to come near me? Okay, and that that the energetic boundaries, I feel it's closely linked to the boundaries that we have with ourselves and how we keep our own promises. Yeah. So when whether something or or a you know lower vibrational being or thought form, whatever, is gonna influence you, is strictly related to how much respect and how much, yeah, how much respect you have for yourself and how much you keep your own promises and how much you show up, you keep your own word for yourself to yourself and show up for yourself. That's it. That's all that's always like internal to us. And then, you know, we can wear the obsidian because oh, I don't go anywhere without without my black obsidian, you know. That all obviously helps, you know, that obviously helps, and I cleanse my energy every day because I work with people's energy literally. So I I cleanse that multiple times a day, and I do a lot of inner work, you know. This is all stuff that you know it's is part of the mix, but ultimately is the worth that we keep to ourselves. It's it's that it's how we love ourselves, yeah.

Kertia: 1:05:38

Yeah, how we respect ourselves, how we love ourselves, and how we regard ourselves, how we think about ourselves, that also helps us to have that protective layer as well.

Gloria: 1:05:51

Absolutely, and also how much responsibility we take for our life as well. Yeah, how much responsibility we take for our life because it is true that we, you know, if somebody treated us in a certain way when we were children, it is true that we didn't go and ask for that. You know, it's it's you know, some of this stuff are are horrible that are happening in you know in certain families and to children. But it is, is it our fault that it happened? Absolutely not. Is it our responsibility to heal us and to show up for ourselves and to understand ourselves? Well, yeah, because nobody else is living this life other than us, isn't it? It's our life, and so I think that having that sense of responsibility to face whatever it is that we need to face, even the you know, mostly the ugly stuff, um, is something that is gonna help us massively with boundaries for sure.

Kertia: 1:06:47

Yeah, that is true.

Gloria: 1:06:49

I'm very um, I feel like I'm very strict with my vision around taking responsibility for our lives.

Kertia: 1:06:58

And it's very practical. Yeah, I love that. I see you have is that a Ouija board behind you?

Gloria: 1:07:04

Yes, I do, yes. My boyfriend got it for me of uh for my birthday a while ago. Yes, he was like, Can we use it? Can we use it? Oh my god.

Kertia: 1:07:15

So what did anything come through when he used the Ouija board?

Gloria: 1:07:19

Actually, no, no, not with the Ouija board, no, but we haven't tried it as many times. I feel like we probably need a bit more practice, also because the way I do mediumship, when you know when you learn how to do something in a certain way, and then it's difficult to switch over to do it in a different way. I feel that that's probably what's happening with the Ouija.

unknown: 1:07:39

Probably that's fine.

Gloria: 1:07:41

Uh but uh it was uh it was it was interesting, it was a weird experience for me for sure, but we're gonna have to give it more tries, I think. Yes.

Kertia: 1:07:51

Oh, that's so sick. I love it. That's cute. So, like, you know, have you ever actually done because now, you know, you we spoke about your family and your upbringing. Um, have you ever done any readings for your family members, or has anyone in your family, your mom, um, like been like, okay, like I'm curious to see what you do and what this is like. Has that ever happened, or do they just want to be like, I don't know, we respect what you do, we're happy for you. That's you know, you do you.

Gloria: 1:08:26

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, first of all, not all of my family knows what I do. Yeah, so that's one of my boundaries. It's all my boundaries, right? Okay, that's one of my boundaries. Uh, because obviously I I work in uh I don't live in Italy, so everything that I do is in English. I work a lot with the UK and and a lot with America as well. So my website is in English, you know, so it's not they don't speak English, so it's not really that they follow what I do or not. They don't even have social media or anything like that. So a lot of the stuff they don't know. My dad, when I did the training a few years ago, and I said to him, So, dad, I said, I'm gonna I'm gonna train for my psychic skills. Oh, stop with the BS, please. So I'm like, okay, never mind. So he was always like very, he's very direct. My dad is the Italian, very direct Italian, you know, um funny man. Anyways, so so with him, I was like, okay, I'm not gonna tell you anything else about this, right? So he doesn't uh he doesn't very much, he doesn't ask, you know. Um and then my mom, no, my mom's very open. She's very open. She has every now and then when she's got a summer, she's like, would you do this reading for me? Would you do my tarot? And then she's got me involved with all her friends as well. So it's like that is so cute. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It is, it is, it is, you know. I haven't always had the easiest relationship with my mom. I think we had two, we we crashed a lot, you know, um, especially growing up and and in my 20s. And to have this, to have her open, you know, to these to these things uh makes me very happy. I say very happy when she comes and she's like, Do you know that person? I told them that they should come to you because you would fix them up. I was like, mom, it's not fixing anything. That's not what it is. She's like, you know what I mean.

unknown: 1:10:28

You know what I mean.

Gloria: 1:10:31

So she's very sweet like that. She's very sweet like that. But yes, no, otherwise, nobody else in my family actually knows. Um, and they don't really have any curiosity, I believe, to find out because they never ask anything. Um but you know what? And I asked myself so often, I was like, is it me like trying to hide who I am? You know, does it what what does it all mean? You know, because I'm all about authenticity. So if I can't be authentic, you know, with some people in my family, then what does it what does it say, right? About my own journey and stuff. But you know what? I think that I don't I don't need their approval in order for me to love them or in order to for me to feel a connection with them. I love them very much, and I am very, very grateful to have them in my life. They're also of a very different generation, you know, they're all like double my age and everything. Um, and so I think that I've just gauged what you can talk about and what is better to maybe not, simply because I think it's sometimes not worth the friction. You know, it's just like we can we can simply just love each other and it's okay if we don't know every single thing, or maybe some of the things we don't approve of, you know. I have my auntie, she will go as far as astrology. Astrology she's okay with, but then when I go a little bit deeper with astrology, she starts being like, no, no, no, no, no, this is far-fetched.

Kertia: 1:12:02

This is but it's okay though, like we can love the people in our lives, and we don't have to agree on the same thing and see eye to eye about everything, and even get into all the details of what we're doing because you kind of like you know, you know, where they have their own boundary as to what they're willing to believe in, what they're willing to listen to, what they're willing to um explore. So it's just not worth the friction, as you said. Yeah.

Gloria: 1:12:36

Yeah, absolutely. And also, I think that everybody's entitled to their own opinion. Yeah. You know, I don't I don't I don't need the whole world to think that to think that the the we can speak to the dead. Do uh would I would I do I think that it would be useful to them? Yes, sure, but you know, it's it's their own opinion. They're everybody's entitled to have one.

Kertia: 1:12:59

So yeah, people are where they are, and that's okay. Yeah, exactly. Awesome. Oh my gosh, Gloria, I enjoy speaking to you very much. Is there anything that you would have liked to mention that we haven't yet spoken about? Um, before we get into that, also just plug yourself and let us know where we can reach you and get in touch with you for your work.

Gloria: 1:13:24

So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Um, you can find me at gloriabattini.com. Um, the the website uh has all the information, how to work with me, what I do, a little bit more in depth. Uh, you can also find me on YouTube. I have loads of stuff on my channel. I go live on my channel at least three times a week. Um, so you can find me there for sure. I'm also a teacher on the Insight Timer app if anybody's familiar with that. And I stream the live events that I do on Insight Timer, I stream them on YouTube. So, all of that, you can definitely find all of the links to that on my website. Um, what I would like to say is that if if if I can leave you with anything, is that you know what we call God, you know, the concept of it, not necessarily like the religious concept, but the but the the higher power that I really want everybody to know that that's within you, that's who you are. You are an expression of that. Energetically speaking, we're all connected, we're all connected, and we're all connected to that, where each of us is an expression of this super powerful energy. And I think that if we if we really become aware of this, I think we can heal a lot within ourselves. I think that we can find more trust within ourselves, we can find more compassion towards ourselves as well, and allow ourselves to live with the, you know, to have more grace towards us. Um, but you're not, you know, not gifted enough or or not good enough or whatever, you know, insecurity. That's that's not you. That's something that's been put there for somebody else. What you are is is infinite. That's what you are. Beautiful. I just want everybody to know that.

Kertia: 1:15:15

That's a beautiful way to end this conversation, Gloria. Thank you so much.

Gloria: 1:15:20

Thank you for having me, Kertia. It's been really, really, really nice. Really nice. I love talking to you.

Kertia: 1:15:25

Yeah, it's been lovely. Thank you so much for tuning in and for watching. Just in case you didn't catch our last announcement, these episodes are now available to watch on our YouTube channel. So please continue to share with your circle and anyone you think might resonate with these conversations. Alright, until next time.