The ADHD MUMS Pod
Real talk from two ADHD mums in the thick of parenting, chaos, and clutter. Gen and Claire share honest highs and lows of neuro-divergent life. We are Mums, but you don't have to be to listen!
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The ADHD MUMS Pod
HIGHS AND LOWS OF THE WEEK: Therapy Training, Co‑Parenting Wins, And ND Meal Hacks
We trade chaos for a mid week and explore why calm can feel weird when your brain expects spikes. Therapy training gets real, co‑parenting shifts bring ease, ND‑friendly routines help with food, and a freezer fiasco turns into a small, satisfying win.
• naming highs and lows with a steadier baseline
• therapy training strain and client exposure under observation
• feedback culture, empathy management and de‑roling tactics
• co‑parenting schedule change and smoother school runs
• kids’ emotions balancing across households
• sensory‑friendly swimming lessons and trust‑first teaching
• food rollercoaster, weight meds and decision fatigue
• meal kit structure for ND brains and portion tweaks
• the freezer meltdown, repair and executive function lessons
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ADHD mums. It's the high the low it's the high the low.
SPEAKER_03:It's the high and low highs and lows of the week. We're the ADHD mums.
SPEAKER_01:I'm clear.
SPEAKER_00:And I'm Jen.
SPEAKER_03:You're back with the highs and lows of the week.
SPEAKER_00:We are, we are.
SPEAKER_03:Do you know what?
SPEAKER_00:No.
SPEAKER_03:It's been it's not been that high and low for me this week. A bit mid. It's been a bit of a a steady track. A bit mid, yeah. It's a bit boring, isn't it? Yeah, so you know, but probably good.
SPEAKER_01:Buckle up for a that's the way life's meant to be, I think, isn't it? It's steady and that.
SPEAKER_03:Oh god, I don't know. It always feels very f unfamiliar.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Well, tell me all about it. And I'm sure it's not boring. Don't switch off, guys.
SPEAKER_03:Um Claire's will be amazing. That's coming next. So me low, I reckon I would say. Not a true low.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:But the the lowest part of me week I could find is just the therapy training, which I'm massively enjoying. That doesn't sound low. God, it's draining. Yeah. Emotionally draining. You've done different levels of it, haven't you? Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Like been there and sat through a lot of the like same process of like a lot because you're counselling people, you're being counselled, and it's exhausting.
SPEAKER_03:Well, the bit that I find the hardest, which a couple of me like course mates who were talking about it, was when you're the client.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Because you've got to bring real material. Yeah. You aren't allowed to kind of fake the story or just say, like, oh, I got did by the TV licensed people or something. You've got to bring real issues. But then you're speaking about it in front of like eight other people watching who aren't listen to this winter cleaner absolutely clanging his ladders everywhere just when you start recording.
SPEAKER_01:Give it a rest, Laz. He's gone. He's gone. I told him, come on.
SPEAKER_03:Um you're talking about your real issues in front of these eight people watching, but they're eight people that you're gonna be like professionally connected with once a week for two years. Yeah. They're like they're making like opinions over things, and I don't massively care what anyone thinks about me these days, you know what I mean? And I don't live my life thinking, oh, what's everyone gonna think? But it's still exposing, and um it's like you're being counselled in front of an audience by an amateur counselor. Exactly, that's what I was about to say. It's like you're also aware that your therapist is not yet properly trained or skilled or experienced, and you've got this really ridiculously short time of usually like half an hour, but we've just been doing contracting as well, so then part of it's been taken up, and you know that they're gonna have to stop you soon. Or and then the worst bit not only do you do that, but then and I mean we did discuss this, we we could always opt out, obviously, but it's not the culture in our class. You then sit there while they get all their feedback as the therapist from the tutor, from all the other like peers, but like this week it wasn't even my turn, but I just found it heavy. Like this one like student colleague of mine was up and like had shared, you know, quite heavy material and like was you know, looked like exhausted when they came and sat down again. Um and like we were all a bit bantery at some point. Like the tutor said something about during his feedback, like, you know, did you notice the client said X, whatever it was, like four or five times, didn't notice by any chance there was a theme, and we all kind of went ha ha ha ha as if like yeah, there was an obvious theme there, but it's like fuck this is the real client sat here listening. It's so like I sort of went, huh, and then thought, oh god, no wait, like we're being lighthearted about this, and this is real, and this person still sat there, like it's just mad, so it's just very um I used to do it at night night school, yeah, and it would always run over as well, and it was after a day's worth, and it was rare it it's so hard, and people bring really like traumatic stuff. Oh well, this is that thing as well, because it's it's kind of like a night school vibe, it's like it starts after midday with a a three-hour lecture, and we call that the night, but then we don't finish till half seven, and literally I'm looking around the room thinking like most of us look like we're about to drop over, like it's just yeah, so just it's not really a low because I'm absolutely loving it and it does feel vocational, but um it's draining very draining and like emotionally taxing for me.
SPEAKER_01:And I think when you're endy as well, you're often more empathetic, more sensitive. So you're taking that stuff on board, aren't you?
SPEAKER_03:Exactly, that's the thing, and I'm just there desperately waiting to find out like how to not take it on board too much as well. I'm really gonna like I'm gonna have to start researching that myself, like skills and techniques and stuff, because I doubt we'll get a lot of focused teaching on it. It'll be one lecture, won't it?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it like and and most people are not gonna be as empathetical sensitive as you are like highly sensitive and empathetic, so they probably won't have as much focus on it, so yeah, you might have to do your own extra personal research. Woo! But we love that shit.
SPEAKER_03:Uh me hi. I don't know if I'm repeating myself here. Probably. If I am, it's because it's still going well.
SPEAKER_01:We all repeat ourselves.
SPEAKER_03:It's the the fact that the school run life has just altered into this mirage of of ease and like unrealists. Like, oh my god, like they want to go to breakfast clubs some days because certain friends go and all that, and like so we we leave the house like with them both fully dressed in uniform, and we we we leave at like 7.45, and I've done like a full like supermarket top-up shop and posted something in the post box and done this and that and got home by like quarter to nine latest. Like it's just mad. Um and they're just like there's been some challenging behaviours as there always has, but generally, you know, that my uh co-parenting schedule changed. Yeah. We added tonight. Um and they seem a lot more like they seem like it's added a lot of like it's it's added value to me in their minds, basically. Yeah, yeah, because it feels fucking nice, they get to like miss me that bit more, they're not missing the other parent as much, so it's kind of balanced things out and they're not doing the kind of crying about like missing daddy or whatever, which is pretty hard to tolerate when that's your ex sometimes. Yeah, when you're like you know, if you're not in the best place with your ex and do like obviously you have to do this incredibly important job together, and well, you know, as you know, you've had to make it work at times when it's been hard to make it work, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01:There's nothing more like RST, um like what's it uh triggering, reducing than like your kid being like, I want to be with my dad.
SPEAKER_03:I think just your own child crying for someone else is just kind of a bit of a gut punch, not in like an ego way, but it's like it's on like a cellular level, isn't it? It's like because when you hear your child upset, you just like you want to fix it, yeah. And like if it's because it's not you can't because you're not the person. So it's been nice to have a release from that life that I had for quite some time. Yeah. Um, it was only like when things weren't going their way, if I'd like put a boundary and all that sort of thing. Um, it was kind of like they'd fantasize, I think, about what things would be like if you know what I mean. I remember doing it myself.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I want I wanted to be an orphan and thought I was like, someone's gonna come and take me to their rich house, like Oliver or something. I wanted to go to boarding school as well and be in like Mallory Towers. Anything for another life.
SPEAKER_03:Anything to be in a novel, yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER_01:In a little Victorian novel, Charles, I was.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so it's just been like really just nice and like oh god, and you know, like obviously, again with like coupons and stuff. Will you show George Foreman? No, George Foreman, he's out there gnarly steaks getting all that fed off the steak, the chicken fillet. Um what was I saying? This is ADHD. I heard a sound. I started doing an impression of George Foreman. Same, I can't remember what you were saying, love. I was talking about, I was romanticising my life about the children. Will you just we might have to pause? Let's pause till this dickhead stops. Right, it's my next door neighbour hammering on a gutter pipe with a chisel and hammer.
SPEAKER_01:Seems important. So I don't think he's gonna stop.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, he's definitely not a dickhead, yeah. Yeah. Um so just enjoying my children and um having them that one night less as well. It's definitely true. They're like being able to give them so much more of myself when I do have them here, and it's lovely, and it's made our weekends like so sacred and gorgeous. Like I feel like obviously I wanted more equity in the situation of where they were weekends, wanted it to be more shared.
SPEAKER_01:Well, to remind us what your schedule was before and what it is, Nellie, how many days you had and how many you've got now.
SPEAKER_03:It was two midweek nights and then ad hoc weekend dates, but not very frequent at all.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And now it's one weekend a month and like one day of that week, and three midweek days all the other weeks of the month. But it's nice actually.
SPEAKER_01:It's a significant change, isn't it? Like it is, yeah. And it gives you time to get your energy back and all that, doesn't it?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but then the weekends are just so treasured. The opportunity to be with them like off school. Yeah, it's such a different like time together, isn't it? Like the the weekdays are just like, you know, it's just all so busy. And I've gotta say, my co-parent is really like you know, I d I always try not to talk about it much, don't I? Because there's been there's not been a huge amount of positive things to say in terms of my experiences, but you know, it seems to be making a good um a good impact there too, and like, you know, he's like doing all different things with them after school and stuff. He's even found um well we both found it at different times in the past, but we couldn't seem to contact the police. He started taking them to a one-to-one, but he's made it two to one so the two kids are together. ND swimming lessons in like a tiny, like sensory-friendly pool, and the train the trainers are like proper. Apparently, there's a a male instructor and a female instructor both get in with the two kids, so I guess it is one-to-one actually.
SPEAKER_01:Oh um two to two, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And the first thing that they did last week was basically just letting them splash about in the water and like look at coloured lights under the water and stuff, and there's zero pressure.
SPEAKER_02:Wow.
SPEAKER_03:And I was explaining to the kids' dad when he mentioned it, just saying, like, oh, that's brilliant, isn't it? Because that's just forming a relationship with the kids to start with, building trust before they start to try and like instruct, and that's such a good approach with me, elders particularly. So I'm delighted at the moment.
SPEAKER_01:Woo! Go, mum. Why the bell choop. Um, it's not a linear low and then high, because it's a little bit jiggity-pogety, is that okay?
SPEAKER_03:I like that, but I don't like that phrase.
SPEAKER_01:Jiggity-pokerdy? Is it I don't is it even real?
SPEAKER_03:It literally makes me think I'm gonna cry. I'm not gonna keep saying it. Say it one more time and see if it does the same thing. Jiggade-pogety. Whoa!
SPEAKER_01:What I don't even think it's right though, is it?
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. All right, well Oh, jiggery pokery.
SPEAKER_01:Is that what I mean?
SPEAKER_03:I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:I think so, yeah. Well, I'm it's a roller coaster. I would love it, but not that exciting. It's not the same as my boring roller coaster. A tram. Um it's all around food.
SPEAKER_03:A tram all around food.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Um delicious. As I've mentioned before, I did like a weight loss thing last year, didn't I? Um weight loss injections and lost weight. So that could have an operation. So when I got hospitalised this year, um the way you chirp it out. When I got hospitalised this year, um I'd lost quite a bit of weight again because I hadn't been eaten because I've been sick. And I saw a nutritionist and she was like, like, don't lose any more weight. And obviously I'd stopped being on that injection, and um so when just started eating loads of food.
SPEAKER_03:Baby, your lips are quite blue. I just feel like I should say.
SPEAKER_01:Oh.
SPEAKER_03:You feel alright? You're not freezing.
SPEAKER_01:I'm alright, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, carry on.
SPEAKER_01:Weird. Okay, so um I've got got blue lips, so there's something going wrong, but uh we're like no laugh for now, that's what I do. Um she was like, don't lose any more weight, just eat normally, and all that's her wear now, because then I just started eating loads and loads and loads of food. Like back to normal. Um, because and there's a thing, like, because I hadn't been properly eaten for like ages. You were recouping, I didn't, but I didn't know I was all up the wall about like what is eating.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I'd stopped I hadn't been eating meals and stuff, so like I think you were trying to be like, well, just have what I fancy, just because that's healthy, but then you were fancy and like.
SPEAKER_01:I just fancied loads of chocolate, so yeah. Um, so I decided to go on the gusto meals. Yeah, this is not an advert.
SPEAKER_03:Hashtag gusto, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:No, um, so I decided to go on the gusto meals because I've had them in the past, and it's like the structure is good for me, and also I like um a bit of you know, what's I call novelty and variety, yeah. They're sweet and sour. So because you're getting like different things every day, that's good for me. Um, and so been doing that with my partner, and it's good for him too, because he's like ND himself, and like it's you've got all your ingredients, you've got your all it's all like sauces for you, you just have to cook it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and what about the portion sizes? Is it enough? Or is it stingy?
SPEAKER_01:I find it's not enough.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Um so that's why I'll end up eating loads of chocolate afterwards.
SPEAKER_03:I see. So I suppose you could have a big salad with it or something, couldn't you?
SPEAKER_01:Well, I can't because I can't eat salad.
SPEAKER_03:Oh yeah, of course.
SPEAKER_01:Um this is one of my problems. I can't eat like raw vegetables and fibrous things, unfortunately. All things that they tell you to eat if you want to lose weight and all that. Can't really do exercise. So um when I went for like a pre-op appointment in the hospital the other week, the way me and I looked at the skills and I was like, oh no, put on later weights. Um and I wouldn't be bothered, like body positivity, all this. I'm not into the diet culture, but I have to be like had a certain week to have my surgery, so I was like, oh god. So I've gone back on the weight loss injections.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, a new type, isn't it? Because from the one last time.
SPEAKER_01:I'm gone on the different type because I'm hoping this will interfere won't interfere with my digestion much. And also they've doubled the price of the weight loss uh medication in this country, which is disgusting. And I think it should be given for free to people who want who need it personally, because I've paid out a fortune for it. Um anyway, started back on that, but this one I can still like eat meals so far. Um, so that's working out really good. Um but um you're distracted from being on your phone.
SPEAKER_03:I'm so sorry, I'm just messaging back podcasting.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. Um so that's it's going a bit dodgy in terms of highs and lows, because this is a high. They're going on going on the gusters, yeah. A low, go having to go back on the weight loss injections. Yeah. Um and then so I think I'm doing the Why?
SPEAKER_03:Because of their impact on your actual like day day-to-day experience of being alive, sort of thing.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, because it's it costs m a lot of money, um, they can make me sick and stuff, but also like the whole thing of like not being in control of my own eating and not being able to just like eat a salad and do some exercise to lose weight and like um have been like really compulsively eating, which is very easy to do, isn't it? Very. Um so anyway, we went shopping last week because we're on these gusto's, but my son obviously just wants his bits and that. So we went to the Aldi and it's a big shop.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I love the Aldi.
SPEAKER_01:I know. Well, I'm trying to be conscious of money now that I'm on the universal credit. So normally I'd order shopping and get delivered. But obviously the Aldi and the little are cheaper than anywhere else. So we went, got all our stuff, like got loads of stuff, loads of freezer stuff. Did you quite enjoy it? Yeah, like I love going to the Aldi. Yeah. I always spend too much though. Yeah. But still got it in. It's not like it's going anywhere. Exactly. But we bought loads of stuff and we came back and um you know, putting it up going to put it away. The freezer's all frozen over. Me too. And no one's told me about it, though they've both noticed it. Done nothing about it.
SPEAKER_03:I've smashed the drawer on mine trying to open it.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I'm like, we've bought like, you know, there's about 60 quid worth of freezer food there, it needs to go in the freezer. So I start like, um I've got the hairdryer. That's a good idea. So melting it with the hair dryer.
SPEAKER_03:Can you electrocute yourself like that?
SPEAKER_01:I don't think so, because hair tyres are used to dealing with wet things, aren't they? Oh my god, I'm gonna have to do that. That's a great idea, Claire. I mean, don't quote me on it, because it could be baby. Hey everybody, go put your hair over in the freezer. Tell them ADHD mums Claire sent you. It's probably super dangerous. So, anyway, I start doing that and I can get the drawers out of it. Put a hot water bottle in. Will I steam with the kettle as well? Anyway, carry on.
SPEAKER_03:This is great.
SPEAKER_01:Um, and so I'm cleaning all the freezer drawers. Gotta take all the because they're all covered in ice. This was in a hurry to try and well, I was trying to be in a hurry, but it was taking ages. And then there was so loads of ice left, so I got like, you know, the spatula or the fish slice or whatever you call it.
SPEAKER_03:That one I think is dangerous. Why? Because there's electric bits at the back. I'm funny about electrocution hazards. I perceive them everywhere.
SPEAKER_01:Of the freezer, no, there's not. So I thought there was like electrical cut. But you'll have the right at the back, isn't it? Like behind the freezer. It looks like I don't know. Whatever, you caution lady. I started going at it with that. Well, I suppose I should have been caution, because I didn't it's rocking the fridge as I'm doing it. And the stuff that was on top of the fridge all falls off. Oh God, so you were down. I was at the I was at the freezer park because my freezer part's on the bottom.
SPEAKER_03:It's like she's actually given me a sneak preview of this story when she arrived after a while.
SPEAKER_01:I was like, darling, yeah, you're bruised. Yeah, so all the stuff that's on top of the fridge, which is like trays and stuff like that. But there's like a wooden lap tray that's quite angular and solid. Quite solid. All fell off. He hit me in the face and on the arm, but they also knocked the freezer door off. So then I'm like, partner, come and help me. Um, and he comes in and we're trying to get this door back on, but it was just impossible. It was like one of them things of trying to get something big into a space that's too small for it.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my god, so all this defrosting you've just done, and you're still trying to put all the fruits and stuff back in.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So this does. And all the stuff that I'd taken out as well. When I and when I took it out, I was like, oh god, there's actually loads of food in here. Is it?
SPEAKER_03:It just gets buried, doesn't it? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I'm like, we've we didn't actually need to buy all this food. So anyway, we're trying to fix it. It's a nightmare. Um, I'm shouting, I'm this, that, and the other. And then he in the end, because he's got um PDI or whatever, he he was like, I can't do this anymore. And he was knacked for some reason that I can't remember. So I can't do this anymore. I was like, right, well, what are we gonna do? Then we can't.
SPEAKER_03:The neighbours downstairs are gonna be adding this to a list of like concerns, hearing you screaming, crying, I can't believe then hearing old Bashing and him screaming, I can't do this.
SPEAKER_01:And uh well that I said to him, Stop it, the neighbour of me. And he was like, Well, look, I said, Well, what are we gonna do? And he was like, Um, oh well, I've had this problem before. With your son off in his room, yeah, with his headphones on. He was he saw there was a problem with the freeze and he ran because Tracy got involved and having to do anything. He's very good at that. So um, anyway, he says, I've had this problem before in me flatteredly. I was like, How have you? Yeah, and it was like, um, what we'll do is we'll put all the food in the freezer and we'll put a chair up against it to like hold the door in place. Oh my god. And then he was like, and then I'll fix it um tomorrow. We needed to lie the freezer down on the floor, and this had been going on for like nightmare.
SPEAKER_03:Lie it down on the floor is my worst nightmare.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Oh well, like we'd have and this had been going on for like Was this yesterday? No, it was like last week. We'd been going on for like an hour or something. He's always been down the Alby for like an hour. It was just like we it was too much for all of us. We needed our tea. Yeah. Like, he was going to meet your son's day and he hasn't been fed, we need to leave. And I was like, well, he's had loads of snacks. Got a new stove ready.
SPEAKER_03:I know it's like he's had loads of snacks, come on. I want to make the tofu tediyaki with sesame seeds in it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, well, anyway, so he did it. He I says, Well, I don't know what you're talking about. You can sort all that out and you can put all the chopping away. So he did. And then he made the tea. I can't remember what it was. It was very nice.
SPEAKER_03:I love that he's making this. Well, you might as well give a shout out to the uh sweet and sour fake chicken. Oh, yeah. You could just say it was that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, last night we had sweet and sour fake chicken and it was delicious, yeah. No, I think it was something like um a halloomy burger with peri peri something or other. It was really nice. Excellent. Yeah, so it was really so it turned out good. And then the next day I came home from somewhere and he had fixed the fridge. Woo! All on his own, which is quite strong, isn't it?
SPEAKER_03:I think so mm manly and masculine and motivated, and if you're into that.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I was saying too before last night, he's never gonna be a proper grown-up man. This felt like a grown-up thing that he'd done. And he'd just done it proud of him when he does that.
SPEAKER_03:I'm very thrilled that he'd just done it when you got in.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:That's excellent.
SPEAKER_01:No prompting, he'd done it very good, and cleaned the whole kitchen up. Round of applause for where all the like water's got on the floor and all that. Yes, so it turned out good in the end, but it's a general roller coaster of food-related issues there. And um, yes, I would I would recommend meal plans to ND people.
SPEAKER_03:Like I'm very tempted. I'll I I I did uh the free trial once.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I mean, I've because one of the things I always have with food as well is like I can't make the decisions.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, decision fatigue. I was reading about this yesterday, and for Annie Amber's book, I'm still plowing through it, but just that like a very snail piece because I read it on the train to uni. And um she was saying the way she meal plans like on a Sunday, it's like the the thing that stood out to me the most was to get away from the dishes decision fatigue. Because for me, I just constantly I think my brain doesn't want to acknowledge what crap food my kids eat and I have to make. So I just kind of go blank all the time and like there's not really that many meals to choose from, but if I just decided in advance, it'd be quite nice.
SPEAKER_01:I think for me, when I've ever done meal prepping or meal planning before, I like just don't want to.
SPEAKER_03:Oh yeah, yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_01:So like I've I've planned, I'm gonna have bolognaise, I'll be like, I don't want bolognaise, you know, like I didn't know you said it bolognaise. Bolognaise. How does it be said bolognaise? Bolognaise. How does it be said? Bologna. Bolognaise. Bologs. Bologs. Um yeah, so like I'll be like, no, and like you know, if you've got to take it out of the freeze or something you've already made yourself, I'd be like, no way I'm eating that. Shit.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but I do know I made that life I've made soup.
SPEAKER_01:The thing I really like is that like it's a different meal every day that I would never would have thought of making the soup.
SPEAKER_03:You pick them, don't you?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you pick them, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I like that bit going on the website, being like, oh, this is is coming to me.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. But uh, as I say, it's not an ad face. Wish it was, wish they were sponsoring me and they were giving me free gusto.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, which brings me round to that we've acknowledged we don't really do any of the like, you know, the showbiz stuff, the like, um subscribe. I don't know about subscribe, download the download the episodes, get it on an auto download. When the new episodes are okay, perfect. Do that on your platforms, um, share it with with someone who you think might enjoy it. Like WhatsApp, tell you what, you listening now, think which of your contacts would enjoy the pod and WhatsApp it over to them. Do it, send them a little link, and um, if you haven't like rated us, liked it, all that stuff, do it. And we're like, oh, we need to give it a little bit of promo at some point, don't we? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But anyway, yeah, we need to get back to advertising ourselves, don't we? Yes, but for now, raise the fist and say it with us Sisters in chaos.
