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This week we are abducted by Aliens!!

Communion (a true story!) and Close Encounters of the Third Kind a less likely scenario but music is universal, right?


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Bridget:

Foreign.

Wendy:

Good morning.

Bridget:

I'm Bridget.

Wendy:

And I'm Wendy.

Bridget:

And this is Flickin Be.

Wendy:

How are you?

Bridget:

I'm good.

Wendy:

Good.

Bridget:

Yeah. Good.

Wendy:

It's frigid. Frigid Bridget.

Bridget:

Yeah, it's frigid, not frigid. Rhymes with Bridget. Kinda.

Wendy:

Kinda.

Bridget:

I mean, you could use it in a wrap.

Wendy:

Yeah, for sure.

Bridget:

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I have my big coat on today, but could it be. Be any more cold? God. So we had a super fun theme this week.

Wendy:

Yes. Aliens.

Bridget:

And I was gonna say abductions, but technically.

Wendy:

Well, yeah, yeah, there was abductions in both.

Bridget:

Okay, so you want to talk about.

Wendy:

Yeah. Do we say both movies first up front?

Bridget:

You say them.

Wendy:

Okay. We did Communion with the great Christopher Walken and then Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

Bridget:

Classics, Both of them.

Wendy:

Classics. Yes.

Bridget:

Although I think more people have heard of Close Encounters than Communion.

Wendy:

Yeah. I had never heard of Communion. I didn't know anything about it. Didn't know about the book, anything. So it was all a surprise.

Bridget:

Yeah.

Wendy:

Yeah. Do you want to talk about that one first?

Bridget:

Sure.

Wendy:

Okay. That's how I watched them.

Bridget:

So. Same.

Wendy:

Yeah. And basic premise. This is based on a true story.

Bridget:

Of a f****** writer.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

Everyone in a movie is a writer.

Wendy:

Yes. This makes me feel like I should just, you know, I mean, I am a writer, but I'm not like a novelist. I'm writing blogs on the Internet.

Bridget:

You know why I think that is? That places the writer or the artist, that places the character in the setting all the time.

Wendy:

Yes.

Bridget:

You know, instead of like, what are you going to have them go to a job and then, you know, you don't see them.

Wendy:

Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. These jobs that are entrepreneurial or freelancing allow you to have your character do whatever you want, right? Yeah, that's a good point.

Bridget:

But it is a true story.

Wendy:

Yes. By a real writer. And Christopher Walken does a great job in this and really does encompass like, the. What do I want to say about the writer pretension that you see with a lot of writers sometimes, but also like the deep depression you get in when you can't think of what to write for real. Like, for example, the. The point where he just lays down on the floor. I'm like, I've been there.

Bridget:

Uhhuh.

Wendy:

Your brain just does not want to work.

Bridget:

Oh my gosh.

Wendy:

And you're just like, I think I just need to lay on the floor.

Bridget:

Right.

Wendy:

For some reason it fixes it sometimes. But yeah. So that's the basic premise. And he gets his whole family Has a experience where they are visited by aliens, but he himself gets abducted.

Bridget:

Well. And so they had this other couple with them.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

At their cabin. And everyone except the wife was like, no, it wasn't the floodlights. It was brighter than the sun, and it was over the house. And, you know, the. His wife just shuts it down. Does not want to give it any attention. Yet. The kid, who is way too advanced is in his ability to communicate with adults.

Wendy:

True.

Bridget:

Come on.

Wendy:

I thought that, too, because he said he's like eight.

Bridget:

Yeah.

Wendy:

And he's asking really adult questions a lot of the time. But I wonder, though, maybe because he's an only child, he's got two, like, intellectual parents.

Bridget:

That's true.

Wendy:

He could be talking like that. And he. Like one of the heartbreaking questions he asks. They go to a Christmas play, and when he comes out, he goes, why are we all sad? Because he. And he's like. Mom's like, we're not. We just had things. She's like, well, dad is sad.

Bridget:

Yeah.

Wendy:

And he picks up on the fact that depression. Yeah. So that I thought was a really. Actually a good moment of how a child might ask that.

Bridget:

Sure. So.

Wendy:

But yeah, in general, he seems a little. Yeah. They wrote his character a little precocious.

Bridget:

Yes.

Wendy:

Well, yeah. I think I thought that the wife would turn around at the point where the kid tells her the story.

Bridget:

Yeah.

Wendy:

Because the kid hasn't been told this story by the dad.

Bridget:

Right.

Wendy:

So for him to come and say the exact same thing. Who. Talking to me. Oh, my God. Okay. I'm not. I guess I'm logged into work.

Bridget:

She. Even when it was clearly at her front door and trying to come into the house, like, unscrewing the. Terrifying, for one thing. But she didn't even want to look. She just shut that s*** out. I don't see you. I don't see you. You know, like, it'll go away.

Wendy:

Right.

Bridget:

But once she left him to go to her sisters and take the kid to her sisters, she saw that same news program, and then she knew also. But did we see her for any more of the film? I don't think so. Because it was the other female character whose son had been abducted.

Wendy:

That's the Close Encounters.

Bridget:

Oh, I'm sorry. So sorry.

Wendy:

That's okay.

Bridget:

I was. Yeah, we'll cut it out.

Wendy:

Yeah. These. They're very similar. So I. Yeah. I wondered if there might be some overlap in our brains. I watched them back to back, too, so.

Bridget:

That's okay. I won't. I won't Put that in. Because I was on the wrong movie.

Wendy:

Yeah. But, yeah, the wife in communion, she really, especially towards the end, has just had it, and they're fighting all the time about it because he has ptsd.

Bridget:

He does.

Wendy:

And he gets scared by things like Halloween masks, and she thinks that's ridiculous, and all this stuff is happening to him, and she just wants him to, like, man up and get over it, and it's not helpful for her or the kid.

Bridget:

Yeah. So she goes, nobody gets scared like that as an adult.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

And that's. You would feel very crazy. I get scared like that.

Wendy:

I do.

Bridget:

Especially at Halloween.

Wendy:

Yeah. I. I love haunted houses, but I also hate them. I mean, I. As a kid, I thought they were the best.

Bridget:

No.

Wendy:

And now I'm. As an adult, I'm like, there's too many things to really be scared of, and it scares me. So. But, yeah, eventually we find out that this is happening to lots of people. And even then, the wife doesn't. She. They go to the support group, and all the people without Christopher walking saying what happened to him, explain exactly what happened to him in their different ways. They've all had the same exact experience. And the wife is still just turns to him and goes, I want to leave. I want to leave Gus.

Bridget:

I know. I know.

Wendy:

It's hard.

Bridget:

I know.

Wendy:

Lay down. Lay down, down, down.

Bridget:

Just too happy. You're just too happy. Anyway, so how many alien abduction survivor support groups do you think there are at the moment?

Wendy:

A lot.

Bridget:

That would suck, though.

Wendy:

Yeah. That was one of the questions I wanted to bring up, because a big theme in both of these is just not being believed. And this is something from other alien interviews that I've heard. People that have seen stuff don't want to report it because they don't think they're going to believed. Be believed, and they won't be by a lot of people. And I at one point turned to Joel, and I was like, if I told you that I was abducted by aliens and I told you it's the truth, would you believe me? And he's like, yeah, I think I would. I mean, it would be weird, but I think I would. And I'm like, I don't. I think I would, too, but I probably would question it at first, be like, well, were you drinking?

Bridget:

Right. Oh, my. Well, then all they would need to do is put you under hypnosis.

Wendy:

Right.

Bridget:

Well, that's such a funny thing.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

Funny movie technique.

Wendy:

Yeah. I wonder if that really helps. I've been hypnotized before. But only in, like, a fun way.

Bridget:

Like at a comedy club.

Wendy:

Exactly.

Bridget:

Yeah. Those are fun.

Wendy:

Yeah. And I didn't. It was kind of a weird experience. You're just like. Sort of like being drunk where you know everything's happening, but you just don't care.

Bridget:

Yeah.

Wendy:

You're just like. Inhibitions are gone. That's how it felt to me anyway. I didn't feel like I was in a trance or really kind of, but I don't. I don't know how that would make me, like, remember things I couldn't remember, but.

Bridget:

Yeah, me neither. I don't think I could be hypnotized just because I just have a trust wall and her office. Wow. There was a lot going on. The creepiest environment for a therapist. There was a lot of triggers.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

Everywhere you look. But she believed.

Wendy:

Yeah. That was lucky for him. I think she happened to be somebody that had dealt with a lot of these cases. Yeah, that would be weird as a therapist, too. You're like, thinking, ok, all these people are having these same experiences separately. Is it like some kind of cultural phenomenon that they're all having the same psychosis or the same hallucination or like, something is going on? I think either way, you should probably bring those people together so they can, you know.

Bridget:

Right.

Wendy:

Commiserate.

Bridget:

What did you think of the special effects? The aliens?

Wendy:

I actually liked it.

Bridget:

Yeah.

Wendy:

I thought the 80s, they did a pretty good job. It's little people in outfits, I'm sure. Or kids, maybe.

Bridget:

Oh, sure.

Wendy:

Yeah. And especially the little, like. What does the kid call them? Little blue doctors.

Bridget:

Oh, my God. Talk about little blue doctors.

Wendy:

Yeah, there's like the willowy big eyes, the grays. The grays. Yeah. The traditional alien. And then there's also these little guys that seem to be like the worker bees that come and actually abduct you and take you to the testing and everything.

Bridget:

Yeah. They just picked him up and took him right out. Like a crowd surf kind of thing.

Wendy:

That scene was weird because the wife seemed to be awake and, like, in shock and watching it. And then as soon as they leave, she like. And she doesn't have any memory of it. They must wipe it or something.

Bridget:

Well, when they stuck that little pen thing at his temple or. That was, to me, one of the scariest parts. And I saw it way back then.

Wendy:

Yeah. It still is very creepy.

Bridget:

Right? Whole idea of someone invading your home and especially. Especially while you're sleeping.

Wendy:

Yeah. You can't do anything about it. You can't even call the police because they don't believe you. Someone keeps breaking into my home and taking me out. But there's no evidence.

Bridget:

None of those pilots wished to report Close Encounters too.

Wendy:

But God d*** it, it's along the same theme. Yeah, like, people don't want to talk about it. They're not going to be believed. I don't know what I would do in that situation. Like, just the same way, like, I would think it was a dream at first. And that's what they think at first. They're like, oh, we just had a really bad dream. I was surprised how early in the film they showed an alien, because usually when you're watching something like this, they wait to reveal what the alien looks like. But in Communion, it's like, in the. Right away at the beginning, he's like, something's there. And then you see an alien, half of its head going, oh, my God, that was creepy. Yeah, because you've had those moments where you're like, is there something in my corner? No, that wasn't. That wasn't real. But it was.

Bridget:

The adult is terrified, but the little boy is just. Big smile on his face, giggling, Thinks it's they're giving him ice cream or something.

Wendy:

Or.

Bridget:

Or the ship itself itself looked like an ice cream cone.

Wendy:

He called it Toys.

Bridget:

Well, she's looking out the window as her kid is running off in the middle of the night. She doesn't even open the window. She's banging on it, yelling his name. Barry. It's the wrong movie again. Yeah, sorry.

Wendy:

It's okay. I think it might be Barry that calls him.

Bridget:

Oh, God.

Wendy:

Barry's younger.

Bridget:

It's Barry.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

That calls him Toys.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

The other kid is. No, he's not. He is scared. I'm sorry I messed that up.

Wendy:

Yeah, he is scared. And it's kind of unclear whether he actually was abducted or not, but he definitely was, like, handled by the. The aliens. Because they show him, like, being pulled out of bed.

Bridget:

Yeah.

Wendy:

But they don't ever show him, like, getting poked in the neck or anything.

Bridget:

So I hope he doesn't get poked in the neck. That's just so scary.

Wendy:

It's weird.

Bridget:

The.

Wendy:

In both movies, the aliens have a hold of little kids in when they're up in the ship. And you're like, why? I guess you want to study species at different ages.

Bridget:

I kept thinking, possibly we are already alien hybrid, and maybe we have always been.

Wendy:

I think that is a real possibility just because of how different we seem to be to everything else on the planet and how we just aren't as in tune with it.

Bridget:

Oh, yeah.

Wendy:

There has been history of humans indigenous being much more in tune with it. But maybe like indigenous people aren't aliens, but the rest of us are or something. I don't know.

Bridget:

Like it? I like it.

Wendy:

We're. Yeah, we're hybrids. Collectively, we don't seem to be all that in tune with this planet.

Bridget:

Can we talk about the a*** probe?

Wendy:

Of course.

Bridget:

He was in some kind of a dream state.

Wendy:

Yes.

Bridget:

Where it thinks like that. Hypnosis. Where he knew what was happening but he wasn't bothered by it. This thing comes out of the wall. Looks like a microphone on a garden hose.

Wendy:

Retractable a*** probe. Yes.

Bridget:

It was rather large. And yeah, they probed him and I liked that they're reading his thoughts through the. But because remember, the gut is the second brain.

Wendy:

That's right.

Bridget:

That would tell you everything.

Wendy:

That's. I didn't think about that. That's true. Yeah. You get a lot of information from the gut. I'm sure.

Bridget:

Mentioned this to one of my friends and they sent me a video from Scrubs where they sing the song about poop. That was funn worth it. Christopher Walken's hair is just so weird. It looks like it's literally a rug that's stapled on and that he's been laying on his back a lot.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

What is that? He's always just had the weirdest hair.

Wendy:

Never kept. He also wears a lot of fancy hats indoors.

Bridget:

Yeah.

Wendy:

In the beginning of the film, he's walking around his house in a top hat over the top of his. Over the ear. Headphones.

Bridget:

Goodness.

Wendy:

And just having a good old time. And there's several other times where he's wearing a different top hat. Maybe because he doesn't want to do his hair because it's always.

Bridget:

He's got a fedora as well.

Wendy:

Lots of different hats.

Bridget:

Writers, they like to put hats on.

Wendy:

Do they? I guess.

Bridget:

I don't know. I don't know. They do.

Wendy:

Writers in their hats and their fake hair. I was on a zoom call the other day and one of my co workers like, sorry, but do you have hair hanging up?

Bridget:

Do you have hair? Oh, on the wall.

Wendy:

On the wall.

Bridget:

Oh, my God.

Wendy:

Usually I kind of have it pointed that way. You can't really see that, but I guess I had it pointed. You could see it. And I was like, yeah, I do.

Bridget:

Oh, man.

Wendy:

I have fake ponytails hanging on my wall.

Bridget:

Yeah.

Wendy:

Why? Who am I to make fun of.

Bridget:

I was just thinking about that yesterday. My favorite bartender just got her Hair restyled. And she was wearing a fake ponytail.

Wendy:

Oh, yeah.

Bridget:

It looks so cute. And I was like, Wendy has that. Like, she has a wall of ukulele, but also some hair.

Wendy:

Yes. You know, I don't have very much of my own.

Bridget:

I have to improvise my tattoo artist. I also thought of you because she referred to herself as a goth unicorn.

Wendy:

Oh, yeah.

Bridget:

Isn't that great?

Wendy:

I always say I'm goth on the inside. Oh, you got another one?

Bridget:

I did yesterday.

Wendy:

Ooh. I've been thinking about tattoos a lot too, because I think I want to get an alien one. I want, like, all the Cryptids. Like, alien or. That's not Cryptid anymore. To me, I think it's real. I guess it is, because we don't have definitive proof. First, like a Sasquatch. One of the things that I found funny is the eyeliner on Christopher Walken tends to get darker as the film goes on. It's like, oh, they just keep adding more and more eyeliner. But when he's in the. He's got full, like, eye makeup on, and he's kind of having, like, a David Bowie moment. And I was. For a second, I'm like, wait, is Christopher walking kind of hot in this? I don't know. Maybe. I have a thing about guys in eyeliner. But for a second, I was like, wow. I've never thought he was. But for a second, he was kind of, wow.

Bridget:

Wow. And I just don't. I think he's really strange, but he's. You're drawn.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

Yeah.

Wendy:

Maybe that's it. He's just very captivating.

Bridget:

Yeah.

Wendy:

And interesting. And that. That makes him attractive.

Bridget:

Not that the writer thought he was a little too weird to, you know, he's weird to be playing him in the movie. And Christopher Walken's response was, if the shoe fits. Some of those scenes where he was up in the ship were just so dreamy, dreamlike. Especially when he's literally talking to himself as the magician was just weird.

Wendy:

Yeah, that part was confusing to me. Either they were trying to say that he was part of this and he was like an extension of them because he kept seeing himself talking to himself. And then there's. At one point, the fake him says, I'm the dreamer, you're the dream. And then he turns it around later and says it to the fake one, and he goes, I'm the dreamer, you're the dream.

Bridget:

It's so weird.

Wendy:

You're just confused about what's going on there. And I don't know if that means that, you know, pointing to the fact that we are their creation or an extension of them, that might be what it's saying. Or it might just be that they make you go a little crazy out there. I don't know.

Bridget:

He just keeps saying how do I get out of here?

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

And he. It's almost like he just says, well f*** it if I'm dreaming, let's just go for it.

Wendy:

Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, yeah. And the magician has this assistant that talking like a robot.

Bridget:

Isn't it his wife?

Wendy:

No, it's a different actress. I think maybe it is.

Bridget:

I thought it was his wife, but she's just like a statue almost. I don't say anything.

Wendy:

I think it's a different woman.

Bridget:

Okay.

Wendy:

I don't know, there's all. They're all blondes in these two movies.

Bridget:

It would have to be his wife. Why would they introduce a random woman?

Wendy:

I don't know. But I don't think it looked like her. I don't know, it doesn't matter.

Bridget:

Maybe just because she was expressionless.

Wendy:

We didn't talk about our coffees, but.

Bridget:

Sorry, don't care. I am the dreamer. You are the dream.

Wendy:

That would make a cool tattoo. I don't know what it means. I bet you a million dollars there's lots of people that have that on there body.

Bridget:

At the very least there is a lot that just have dreamer.

Wendy:

Oh for sure.

Bridget:

Dreams.

Wendy:

These dreams go on when I close my eyes.

Bridget:

Woohoo. Coffee break. Let's talk about our beans.

Wendy:

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Bridget:

Here's the thing that I was thinking. If they're taking adults up there and giving them a*** probes, I want to know. And I'm not even a parent, but are they giving the children a*** probes too? Because that is pedophilia.

Wendy:

Yeah, that's not cool. I don't know, I mean, none of the kids reported it either way.

Bridget:

It's a crime on earth, but not in space. Do what you want.

Wendy:

Yeah, it's like maritime law up there, right?

Bridget:

Except it's the air instead of the water.

Wendy:

Right?

Bridget:

Yeah, yeah, there's.

Wendy:

Is that the right term though?

Bridget:

No.

Wendy:

What's the right term? When you're like out in the ocean.

Bridget:

That's maritime.

Wendy:

Oh, yeah.

Bridget:

But there's a term for.

Wendy:

Oh, okay, okay.

Bridget:

Air.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

I don't know what it is.

Wendy:

Yeah, I was saying that it's like that, but there. That's why Elon Musk has been able to get away with so much, because nobody owns the space.

Bridget:

What? What is he even doing? Why. Why is he setting rockets? What's the point? Where is he going?

Wendy:

Mars.

Bridget:

Right back down Mars somewhere.

Wendy:

I don't know.

Bridget:

He isn't going anywhere. It's just up and then down. Just like those people that want to go in space.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

They're just going up and coming down.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

Looks good. Take some pictures with your iPhone of the Earth. Not that it wouldn't be amazing.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

And cool.

Wendy:

One of the things that astronauts say, like, once you're able to see the Earth from that view, it changes your whole being. Now you no longer understand borders between countries and things. Like, maybe everybody needs to go into space.

Bridget:

So you wanted to. You want to buy the book?

Wendy:

I do want to buy the.

Bridget:

I love that. I love that you liked this movie.

Wendy:

I loved it. I was surprised when I saw Christopher walk an Alien movie. I was like, this is going to be weird. Which it was. Yeah, but in, like, the best way. Yeah, it was. Even though the special effects were not CGI and fancy like we had today, like, they still work. It still was creepy and weird and also kind of funny and. I don't know. I loved it.

Bridget:

All right. What about Close Encounters?

Wendy:

I liked it. I couldn't remember whether I had seen it before or whether I just knew about it because it is such a referenced movie. Because, of course, I knew about the mashed potatoes. People have done that scene a lot of times. Overall, I liked it. I thought it was a little slow. They could have cut a lot out of it. I think it didn't need to be so slow. But otherwise, overall, it was good. It was definitely more about the government, I think, than the aliens.

Bridget:

There's no way they would ever let those civilians right up there. It was just like ladies with a purse. I was pretty riveted for most of it. And when they kind of got to the Devil's Rock place, that's where I paused it to see how much of the movie was left. And it was 40 more minutes.

Wendy:

Yeah, that was too long.

Bridget:

And I was like, what the heck even happens after this? I think they could have sped that up to more of a climactic thing.

Wendy:

The ending was very slow. All right, we're standing here staring at this thing for 40 minutes.

Bridget:

Aliens come out. Yet it didn't feel super triumphant. Richard Dreyfuss leaves in the spaceship. They release everyone. But take him. Why?

Wendy:

Yeah, why? Is he so special? I don't know.

Bridget:

Is it just because he wanted to go?

Wendy:

He definitely wanted to go.

Bridget:

The little aliens were so much cuter in this one.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

Oh, so cute. Not quite as spindly so. They really did look like little kids.

Wendy:

They did look like little kids. I think they were.

Bridget:

Yeah.

Wendy:

The way that they moved, moved, really said child. So they probably were children in an outfit.

Bridget:

Music is universal. That's a language that we all understand. Those tones are so iconic. It's just like when you think of.

Wendy:

Jaws, you hear that, you think that the spaceship is gonna start playing Jaws for a minute.

Bridget:

Yeah. Because it sounds like a big old tuba.

Wendy:

Yeah. Whoa. Yeah. At the end of the musical exchange, it starts slowing down, and it's just doing the tuba. And you're like, duh. Nuh.

Bridget:

Yeah.

Wendy:

But it never speeds up like the Jaws song. You're like, oh, is. Is that because this is about the time that Jaws came out, right. 78ish. Or.

Bridget:

Richard Dreyfuss was in Jaws, wasn't he? Yeah.

Wendy:

Yeah. So I thought maybe it might be a little bit of a nod to that. Speaking of things coming out at the same time. So this is a Steven Spielberg movie. This came out the same year that Star wars did.

Bridget:

Oh, interesting.

Wendy:

They both came out in 1977. Obviously, Star wars became, like, astronomically huge, but this movie really is iconic.

Bridget:

I haven't heard of it.

Wendy:

Star Wars. I'm not familiar with this movie. This Empire, literally. He must have been working on them close together, too. What a time to be alive. And then he went and made Steven Spielberg make Howard the Duck too.

Bridget:

Or no, maybe. I don't. I don't remember. I don't remember. Premise of Close Encounter is that Richard Dreyfuss's character sees the ship, comes over his truck, literally sunburns his face. There was a warning sign. Whenever they were coming, the mailboxes on their posts would just be jerking back and forth. All that s*** in his car, flying around.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

Oh, scary. When he's looking for it the next time and he sees the objects around him trembling and moving, he's like, yeah.

Wendy:

And then he finds all those people waiting for it because they've seen the phenomenon too. So he go, yeah. It's like on this particular Road Mountain thing.

Bridget:

Yeah.

Wendy:

And there's like a group of maybe like 15 people standing there on this one curve. And they all get sunburned again when it comes by, but guess they keep doing it. So people start showing up in this.

Bridget:

Spot to watch with their children. Yes, that Just struck me as odd.

Wendy:

Yeah. So I would be.

Bridget:

Keep it. Get in the basement, lock them in.

Wendy:

Well, I think how the woman it closer to the beginning of the movie. She has this son, Barry, which I think is so funny for a child.

Bridget:

I know it.

Wendy:

Barry. My four year old Barry. But he goes running out into the night and mom is like, what the f***? So she's following him and he. The kid runs to this place where everybody's going to watch the ufo. So like the kid is somehow knows also drawn sees it or something. Yeah, like the kid's not afraid of them. And at one point when they show up to the house, the kid's like, you can come inside now. And I was like, oh, that's like, yeah.

Bridget:

Looking up the chimney. She closed the flu. Oh my God.

Wendy:

That was a creepy scene. Because the kid was like, it's fine. They abduct him. Reminds me of Poltergeist. The little girl's like, they're here and she's not scared.

Bridget:

Terrygard is already sick of Richard Dreyfuss's obsession with this shape, which we all know already. It's not a spoiler. Turns out to be the Devil's Rock. And that's where that mashed potato scene comes in. I only have one tiny fun fact, which was when the little girl says, there's a dead fly in my mashed potatoes. That was not in the script. And they just left it in. That was just. She just blurted it out because there was one.

Wendy:

Nobody.

Bridget:

Nobody's gonna eat these. Don't worry. Wasn't that a ton of mashed potatoes for one small family?

Wendy:

I thought that too.

Bridget:

Jeez.

Wendy:

Well, they're all looking at them like, how. Why are you putting so many mashed potatoes in your plate? And I was thinking, why did you make so many mashed potatoes?

Bridget:

We're sculpting, of course.

Wendy:

Of course. It's. It's funny. The shape is so obviously a mountain, I think. But they don't seem to like really get it until. Ambiguous sign, I guess. Like, how would you. To keep creating it? He just makes a mound of stuff. It's sort of a weird thing to keep creating and be obsessed with.

Bridget:

Right. Well, after the mashed potatoes, he's like, I'd like 50 or 60 pounds of clay, please.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

And builds it out of clay. Wasn't that right there at the top, the kitchen table or was he in a basement?

Wendy:

I think the clay might have been in a basement or garage. Later on though, he builds the.

Bridget:

The giant mud that was so Crazy. It reminded me of. I'm a vampire. I'm a vampire. Because it was so crazy.

Wendy:

Yeah. Why do you need to build it in the house?

Bridget:

Correct.

Wendy:

Why do you need to break your windows to put the stuff in your house?

Bridget:

Why do you need to climb in the window?

Wendy:

Yeah, he could have built it outside if he really needed to build it. Why do you need to destroy your house?

Bridget:

Why do you need to let all those ducks free? I. Yeah, I didn't get that either.

Wendy:

I would have left him, too, man.

Bridget:

How the h*** are you gonna clean that up? I would have left him, too. But even when she sees that new historian and they simultaneously, in different places, realize what it was, but she still doesn't go to him. They never reconnect.

Wendy:

No, she just, like, goes away, and they just replace her with this other actress who also looks a lot like her. And so I had trouble, like, I kept thinking, oh, it's just his wife again.

Bridget:

No, no, because him and he and Barry's mom.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

They were together for. You know, and it's first a trauma bond, and then at the end, they kiss.

Wendy:

Unnecessary.

Bridget:

Yeah.

Wendy:

It's like, the only reason for them to kiss is because you wanted this woman to replace his wife as the love interest, but you don't need it. There's not. They have a trauma bond. There's a connection there, but, like, the romance wasn't needed. And then he gets on a ship and goes away.

Bridget:

Yeah.

Wendy:

Well, they've been friendship.

Bridget:

They didn't have anything romantic.

Wendy:

No.

Bridget:

Just that.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

Shared experience.

Wendy:

Yeah. Maybe it was just, you know, it wasn't that romantic, and it was sort of a way to be like, okay, we had a moment. Let's go kiss goodbye.

Bridget:

I guess a hug would suffice.

Wendy:

I felt like it was kind of forced and I didn't need it.

Bridget:

Firm handshake.

Wendy:

Yeah. Yeah.

Bridget:

Nice to meet you.

Wendy:

Or, like, a kiss. That's not. No tongue.

Bridget:

Right.

Wendy:

Little, you know, a peck, whatever.

Bridget:

Yeah, you're actors act. The ship was pretty cool, though. I loved all the. Just the way it looked, the bigness of it. And that they also have those orbs like you always hear about. These little spheres of light that zip around.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

Who knows those? It could be their drones. I don't know.

Wendy:

Yeah. Ever. Maybe this is something after. I'll show you. But I ever showed you my orb photos that are really weird.

Bridget:

Oh, I'd like to see those.

Wendy:

We. When Joel and I first started dating, we went out to Raccoon river park and to watch the supermoon. And we took a bunch of pictures of it, him and I. And we both have this one little orb in several of the photos. We both have it, and it looks like there's a little face inside of it, almost like another little moon or something. I don't know. But it was in both of our photos. And it's really weird, but I'd have to dig it up.

Bridget:

Interesting. Yeah, I. When am I gonna see a flying saucer?

Wendy:

I don't know. I want to really bad. I'm hoping that, you know, now that we have a camper and we're, like, out in places where there's not light pollution more, we might see something. Maybe we'll go someplace that, like, is known for having activity or something.

Bridget:

Maybe your whole camper will get sucked up into the ship.

Wendy:

Take us home with us in it. Yeah, let's go.

Bridget:

Yeah. And then you both get probed and you wake up somewhere really weird.

Wendy:

It would be an adventure.

Bridget:

Oh, my God.

Wendy:

Then I would write a book about it. If I ever came back to Earth.

Bridget:

When he has to go and when he's super, like, adrenaline rush and he's waking up his wife and making her wait, I have to say, it looked like they had a twin bed.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

Okay. You noticed that, too. I'm like, that's not even a double. And I thought. Yeah.

Wendy:

Anyway, I thought the beds in the first movie seemed really small, too.

Bridget:

Yeah.

Wendy:

Yeah. Could be a movie thing. Like, you want them in the shot together or something. I don't know. Maybe buds were smaller then. Probably in the 70s.

Bridget:

They probably didn't have California King. I don't know. But when he goes. And they go to wake up the kids, and he's throwing open their doors, all their sleeping positions.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

Even his. He had his arm flopped over on over her chest at one point. It's just. Whoa, that's acting.

Wendy:

Yeah. Christopher Walken. I keep going back to the first one, but Christopher Walken always laid down on his wife's b***. Did you notice that whenever they were sleeping, he was sleeping, like, over top of her, like, laying on her b***.

Bridget:

Good pillow, huh?

Wendy:

I guess.

Bridget:

There you go.

Wendy:

Little cushion.

Bridget:

That's right.

Wendy:

Maybe that's the secret to get up. Getting abducted. You need to sleep in a weird position and then they find you.

Bridget:

Right.

Wendy:

Yeah. I don't really know if I want to be abducted, but I don't really want to be anally probed. But it. I've had worse.

Bridget:

I was like, you know, hey, I got other places to probe.

Wendy:

Yeah. One of the Ladies said that in the support group. Oh, wait, this is the first movie. I'm getting these confused. But they took her baby.

Bridget:

Yeah.

Wendy:

She was pregnant, and then when she came back down, she wasn't pregnant anymore. That's sad. The dingo took my baby.

Bridget:

That's classic. We could watch that.

Wendy:

I liked them both, but, yeah, I had similar sentiments about the end. I felt like it was a little, little long. It was late, and I'm like, could we. I do have a fun fact about the music. That five note thing has been made into a disco song.

Bridget:

Sure. That sounds great.

Wendy:

And it charted at number six on the disco track that year. That's cool. The soundtrack overall of Close Encounters with the of the third kind hit number 17.

Bridget:

That's awesome.

Wendy:

Yeah. So I guess maybe go look at that soundtrack.

Bridget:

That's very cool. The longitude, latitude coordinates.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

That they gave out actually really aren't the right coordinates for Devil's Rock.

Wendy:

Did they not want to tell people or.

Bridget:

No, I think they just kind of made it up.

Wendy:

They didn't care enough to.

Bridget:

To use science. I really just can't believe that such a huge number of scientists and the army were working together to make this happen with music.

Wendy:

Yeah, it's.

Bridget:

It's a bit.

Wendy:

Yeah. Yeah.

Bridget:

It's beautiful thought.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

If it really would have. Could happen.

Wendy:

Well, we definitely send signals like that. I know. I don't know if we've ever received any because the government hasn't said, but.

Bridget:

Yeah, we have.

Wendy:

Yeah, probably. I'm sure we have. But I love that idea, though, because it's true. Like, we can all kind of get on board with some music. It's good. Good message. I do want to revisit the part about not wanting to report it. So there's a lot of military in this movie and their air force is reporting all these UFOs. There's like three pilots in the air, and the people on the ground are like, do you want to report? They're talking to them about something they're all seeing.

Bridget:

Yeah.

Wendy:

And then they ask them individually, would you like to file a UFO report? Nope. And nobody wants to do it. And I've listened to some podcasts from military people that have seen a lot of this stuff. There's one guy in particular, I cannot remember his name, but he's a naval officer pilot who was the first to, like, come out publicly and talk about his experience with the Tic Tac ufo.

Bridget:

Oh, yeah.

Wendy:

Yeah. And basically they've been seeing these things that look like Tic Tacs and they move so differently and so fast. And now the water with seemingly no resistance and all this stuff. And he finally was like, everybody's seeing this. I need to talk about it. But really interesting if you ever get a chance to listen to some of that stuff. His interviews, that just reminded me of that, because he talked about the same thing. It's like they used to discourage you from reporting it because the military is so strict about how you report stuff. They didn't really have a channel for you to do that. So even if you did go to someone and say, like, I saw this stuff, they're just like, well, we don't really have a protocol for that. And it was discouraged. So people have seen so much stuff that they didn't report because they didn't want to not be believed. And also, like, the military was quieting.

Bridget:

It beyond not being believed. Being thought of as crazy.

Wendy:

Yeah. Yeah.

Bridget:

I mean, shunned.

Wendy:

It ruins your reputation. I mean, lots of people that have come forward, like, just like in these movies, they lost their jobs.

Bridget:

Their jobs.

Wendy:

Because as soon as Richard Dreyfuss's character starts talking about it, they call and fire him over the phone to his wife.

Bridget:

Right.

Wendy:

I wonder if that's even legal. No, you can't just tell your wife that you're fired.

Bridget:

No, they didn't even want to talk to you, honey. So weird. Richard Dreyfuss. Whenever I think of him, I think of the SNL skit, speaking of Star Wars.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

Where they've got a casting call, and so obviously it's someone's impression of Richard Dreyfus.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

I'm Richard Dreyfus. I'll find it.

Wendy:

Okay.

Bridget:

I'm gonna put that in there. Yeah, I'm Richard Dreyfus.

Wendy:

If I. I think I found it, I'll send you the disco song, too, maybe.

Bridget:

Okay. Oh, yeah, I'd love that.

Wendy:

Put a.

Bridget:

Work it in.

Wendy:

Yeah, put a little clip of that in. Yeah.

Bridget:

All right. Anything else?

Wendy:

I think that was it.

Bridget:

Okay.

Wendy:

Let's go find aliens.

Bridget:

Did we do it?

Wendy:

I think we did it.

Bridget:

We flick some beans.

Wendy:

Okay. Love you. Bye.

Bridget:

Bye. Party all night long.

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