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EP 112: ISN'T IT ROMANTIC - Isn't it Beguiling?

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Bridget:

Foreign.

Wendy:

Good morning.

Bridget:

I'm Bridget.

Wendy:

And I'm Wendy.

Bridget:

And this is Flicky Beans.

Wendy:

You can join us every Monday where we discuss a movie over coffee.

Bridget:

Good morning. And how are you?

Wendy:

I'm doing well. This morning I'm drinking my new favorite coffee creamer. What do you think?

Bridget:

I can't tell what it is.

Wendy:

You can't taste it? Maybe I didn't put enough in there. It's Pumpkin Munchkin. Oh, how cute. From Dunkin'dunkin Pumpkin Munchkin.

Bridget:

Stop.

Wendy:

Their munchkins are their donut holes. And I guess they just decided to name the creamer that too. So the more marketing.

Bridget:

I just heard a commercial for Wendy's. They have like these new chicken tenders and they're so good that they've renamed their restaurant Tendees. It sounds good. Wish I ate chicken. I mean, you never know.

Wendy:

Yeah. What's really in there? Oh, you might go back to eating chicken or have a little tendee every once in a while.

Bridget:

Those two hot dogs. And then Corey came to the bar and he had just been to the farmer's market. He was so excited over this weird cured meat.

Wendy:

Okay.

Bridget:

So I said, fine, I'll taste it. It didn't taste good to me. And the texture was like a dried out eyelid. Ew. Ew.

Wendy:

Gross.

Bridget:

Y was. It was really weird. I'm like, why? Why do you. And it was like, expensive.

Wendy:

Yeah. Of course. Curing meat takes a long time, right?

Bridget:

Yeah, I guess so.

Wendy:

When I got my tattoo, I learned a fun little thing. Oh, yeah, it looks much better now.

Bridget:

Oh, it's uncovered now. Yeah. Ooh, I like the little dots around the flames.

Wendy:

Glitter technique is what it's called. That's why I went to this. This gal. She's like a friend of a friend, so. So I've seen her stuff online. I started following her and I was like, oh, she does that clitter technique and I don't want that. So that's why I went to her. She was great. They were talking about getting a piercing called a coin slot, which I've never heard of. And I thought that was hilarious sounding. So coin slot is when they take a coin slot shaped hole out of your ear so you can like stack things into it.

Bridget:

What?

Wendy:

And apparently it's tradition in the community that when you get it done that you have to eat the piece of skin they punch out.

Bridget:

Oh, that's nasty.

Wendy:

So eating an eyelid made me think of that.

Bridget:

That's nasty. Is it cartilage?

Wendy:

Yeah, it's small enough. You probably Just swallow it.

Bridget:

But like, what do you put? Like what do you put in it? No, you don't.

Wendy:

No, you put a stack of rings.

Bridget:

Oh, a stack of rings. Yes.

Wendy:

You can stack things on top of each other in the same hole. At least that's how my artist had it done.

Bridget:

So you didn't get it done, I see.

Wendy:

No, I'm not interested in that.

Bridget:

That's a good segue for this thing I wasn't even thinking of talking about, but last night I was, you know, up kind of just ready for bed, looking for something dumb on the tv and I found this called It's Florida Man.

Wendy:

Oh, I've seen that.

Bridget:

Have you?

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

Did you see the one about the guy, Craigslist who said, can you fulfill my fantasy of being eaten? Yes. Just three of his toes though. This is a real thing. That is nasty.

Wendy:

Yeah, I read a book once, I think it was called Sex at Dawn. It was about cultural sexual weirdness. And there was one story in there about this German guy, there was a court case because he was getting charged with murdering this other guy, but the other guy had asked him to slowly eat him. And it's like a sexual thing somehow.

Bridget:

I'm not sure, but definitely a deviant obsession. It's just like any obsession where you think about it and then you just get deeper and deeper into escalating, I guess, like serial killing.

Wendy:

I have a fear of that happening to me because I have some really messed up intrusive thoughts sometimes. Oh yeah, I think everybody does. But the one of them is I'm always thinking like, pull into traffic. Oh yeah, pull into the other lane. What if you just. Sometimes it's way, way grosser stuff. I would never say out loud.

Bridget:

I think everybody has.

Wendy:

Yeah. What if eventually you start listening to.

Bridget:

Have you ever been obsessed with anything?

Wendy:

Probably. I get very obsessed in short term with new crafts or a new project.

Bridget:

Oh, sure.

Wendy:

Never lasts very long for me though.

Bridget:

Adhd, you jump on to the next one.

Wendy:

I think we're both like that, but obsessed. I don't know.

Bridget:

I've been obsessed with boyfriends 1000%, which is also a good segue into this movie. Our movie this week was Isn't it romantic? Starring Rebel Wilson.

Wendy:

And oh, I think Liam Hemsworth, 2016 and Adam Devine, they're adorable together.

Bridget:

They've played love interests a whole bunch.

Wendy:

Pitch Perfect, I think was the first. Their chemistry is lovely.

Bridget:

She said we're essentially. And with Stone and Ryan Gosling now, adorable. I wish I could say it in her Accent. Ryan Gosling.

Wendy:

That's awful.

Bridget:

You do it.

Wendy:

Ryan Gosling.

Bridget:

That's really good.

Wendy:

Mine was really bad.

Bridget:

Anyway, this movie is girl gets hit on head, starts living in a romantic fantasy world.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

Has to get hit on head again to get out.

Wendy:

This is a movie that does every single romantic comedy movie trope and it's self aware about it, so it makes. It's very meta that way. Rebel's character grows up, she's chubby, her mom tells her no one's ever gonna love her, so she stops believing in all these romantic comedies that she loved as a kid. And now she. She has an assistant that is obsessed with romantic comedies too, which she was great. So she goes on a long rant about all the things that she hates and then she ends up in a romantic comedy somehow with her kitty, her head hit.

Bridget:

Had to watch over 90 rom coms and pulled out the narrative tropes that they all had.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

New York City, Starbucks. Rain falling during kiss, Half moon windows and bubble baths. Okay. And they also, you know a lot of recognizable movies like Pretty Woman after she hits her head. Why did they say her clothes were gone? And they had to get something out of Lost and Found for her. And it was like the exact outfit that Julia Roberts was wearing when she was shopping. A white suit, big hat.

Wendy:

Somebody left that in the lost and found.

Bridget:

Even later, she's in that red dress. Which is another nod to when they went to the opera.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

Yes.

Wendy:

There's so many little details that I think if I watched again, I might catch more. But one of them is in the beginning when she first gets in the car with Chris Hemsworth character. And they're driving over the bridge and it's like a drone shot above and the birds are flying in a heart formation and I'm like, what a cute little detail. I wonder what else I missed.

Bridget:

That is cute.

Wendy:

So she gets mugged by someone she thinks is hitting on her, wakes up in a hospital, and the doctor is too hot to be a doctor. Right?

Bridget:

Right. Yeah.

Wendy:

It is weird when you end up with like a doctor or a dentist or somebody that's like really attractive. Does it make you nervous? Just, I don't know. Like I'm not even like attracted to them. I just feel like you're too pretty to be like examining my body.

Bridget:

Well, my defense mechanism is hum.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

When I had pneumonia, I got set up with a new doctor and I needed primary care anyway. And he was laughing his b*** off by the time our visit was finished. So I'm already Beguiling. Beguiling. I wish I had the fun fact of how many times they said beguiling in this movie.

Wendy:

I did look up the official definition so that we can all be clear. Beguiling, charming, or enchanting. But often in a deceptive way. So that's a little twist. Beguiling.

Bridget:

That's the batting the eyelashes thing. And it's that whole trope of trying to make someone fall in love with. Means that you have to act a certain way. Flirty, batting your eyelashes. When that's not real life. Real life, the person falls in love with you as you are.

Wendy:

Exactly.

Bridget:

Yes.

Wendy:

You cannot make someone fall in love with you. It's not possible.

Bridget:

No.

Wendy:

Even if they did fall in love with the version of you that you're showing them. Because I think that happens. That's not you, though. And even that, I don't really think you can explain love.

Bridget:

Right.

Wendy:

Infatuation.

Bridget:

There's a word for that. Infatuation at the beginning of romance.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

It's limerence.

Wendy:

Okay.

Bridget:

And that means that it's fleeting because it either stops or turns into something else.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

I learned that from that show. Adam ruins everything.

Wendy:

Oh, yeah. I love that show.

Bridget:

He ruined love. He ruins everything by breaking it down.

Wendy:

He ruins love. He ruins marriage. He ruins lots of stuff on there.

Bridget:

And Rebel Wilson did hate rom coms.

Wendy:

Oh, yeah.

Bridget:

Before she did this movie. But she ended up having to watch so many of them and ended up liking them. Yeah.

Wendy:

I love a rom com. They get a bad rap. Yeah. They have a predictable storyline a lot of times, but it's an enjoyable experience. If you're not looking to have a lot of feelings.

Bridget:

Right.

Wendy:

Or you just want to have, like, nice feelings.

Bridget:

I almost said, you know, you're not going to cry. That's not true.

Wendy:

Some of them will get you in the gamut. Yeah. And some rom coms are genuinely good movies. They're really funny and they have a good message and things, and they just still kind of run that romantic comedy storyline.

Bridget:

I looked up the top 10 rom coms.

Wendy:

Is Pretty Woman at the top of the list?

Bridget:

Pretty Woman is close to the end of the list because some of the older ones are up at the top. So I have a bit of trivia.

Wendy:

Okay.

Bridget:

I was curious because rom com is just like. I was thinking, well, I know they had romance movies, but they weren't rom coms. They didn't have comedy in them in the olden days or even books. So I was like, where did that originate? And I was surprised because I Read. It originated actually in the 1930s during the Great Depression. You know, they needed something.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

So it showed normal, I guess, people with their contemporary struggles and always the protagonist is triumphing over adversity. Right. So the genre, this was the interesting part because when you think about old movies and they're so tame. It was influenced by something called the Hays Code, which restricted romantic relationships, prohibited explicit mention of sexual relationships, leading films to rely on physical comedy and verbal sparring. That's totally it. Yeah, but that makes sense how like in Breakfast at Tiffany's, you know, Holly Golightly is like an escort.

Wendy:

Right.

Bridget:

But they never ever, ever. You're just supposed to infer it in between the lines. Yeah, in between the lines.

Wendy:

Maybe humanity has always had a lot of darkness and f***** up s***. But it's funny that probably like at that time people were doing way more f***** up s*** in their regular lives, but you couldn't see it on tv. Now it's kind of opposite. Like we see all this stuff in video games and tv, but I feel like as people, we're not as terrible in general.

Bridget:

Yeah, it's Florida man.

Wendy:

Man, that is absolutely recommend that show. It's funny.

Bridget:

The mermaids episode. Oh. And if you haven't seen it, it is people with their crazy Florida stories. But the scenes being played, actors.

Wendy:

Right?

Bridget:

Yeah. Similar to drunk history.

Wendy:

Exactly. Remind me of that. Yeah.

Bridget:

Oh, it was great.

Wendy:

It's so great. And I have truly have a little fact about Florida man stories and why they've become so popular. Florida has looser rules about the press. They don't do their due diligence. Something about the way the law is allows them to go to print faster. So they get all these crazy stories of people doing in Florida and they print it right away. And sometimes it wasn't even true.

Bridget:

It's amazing.

Wendy:

So then it became, you know, the headlines started going on everywhere. Florida man. Florida man. Because they. I think Florida has a. Its reputation's earned. But I also think that they could do the same thing for like every other state. Arizona.

Bridget:

Super interesting though.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

Wow.

Wendy:

Where were we?

Bridget:

One question is, are rom coms helpful or, you know, when she was a child, in the movie, it was something she hoped for. And then that hope just kind of faded as she got older and realized that life isn't all hearts and flowers.

Wendy:

Yeah, I don't know. I definitely can see both ways. I think they give a nice softer entertainment and they can bring joy. But if you're basing your romantic ideas on them, it's dangerous but you know what?

Bridget:

That's the first thing you're going to watch after a breakup.

Wendy:

Oh, yeah.

Bridget:

Oh, yeah. So they can be helpful and hurtful.

Wendy:

Exactly. Like everything cathartic. Absolutely.

Bridget:

To see someone come out of it.

Wendy:

Loving themselves will often use a movie to make me cry when I can't.

Bridget:

Right?

Wendy:

Yeah. If I'm feeling like I need to cry about something but my body is not doing it, I'll watch some movie that I know is going to make me cry. It is cathartic.

Bridget:

The Notebook.

Wendy:

That one's sad. Oh, what is like your top cry movies, like, if you had to pick one to go watch? What? I think mine's my girl. That's up there. I always cry at that one. I don't rewatch that one a lot, though, because it actually like. Like guts me growing up. I remember the joke was always Beaches.

Bridget:

Oh, Beaches is good.

Wendy:

Beaches is the crybaby movie. That's not really a rom com, though. That's more a friendship movie. I also like to watch the show. We're Here. Have you seen that? It's on hbo. It's drag queens. They go into small towns and they meet with either already drag performers or they people that are not drag performers. And they all do a drag show at the end and they all have great stories. And the show at the end makes me cry every single time. There's always something. Someone's mom is crying in the crowd or dad didn't like that he was gay and he still showed up to the show and you're, like, needing a good cry. Go watch that show.

Bridget:

I could cry at, like a phone commercial.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

There was this one coffee commercial, part of an assignment for English class. So we had to kind of rework a commercial, but without the product.

Wendy:

Okay.

Bridget:

That one made me cry because it had to do with the kid coming home from college and he brewed a pot of Folgers.

Wendy:

I remember this commercial.

Bridget:

Do you?

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

And the kid's name. I can't remember, but she was like, Michael.

Wendy:

I totally. I can see the guy. I remember that commercial for sure. It left an impact.

Bridget:

It sure did. That's a good commercial. Anyway, the whole thing is the thought of you're not whole.

Wendy:

Right.

Bridget:

Unless somebody comes to save you.

Wendy:

That is a problematic story that gets told by rom coms is you can only be happy once you find your soulmate. And once you find your soulmate, you're going to be happy forever. Your life is just going to be good from there on out. And that's not how it Works.

Bridget:

The person that really loved her was there all along, so she thought she had to love him because it didn't work the first time. The general message, which we love is love yourself.

Wendy:

Exactly.

Bridget:

Then you're ready.

Wendy:

Finally, the curse is broken.

Bridget:

Broken. The curse is broken.

Wendy:

You love yourself. She thinks she needs to love Chris Hemsworth because he shows up as the romantic lead and he's Australian the second time she meets.

Bridget:

I love it.

Wendy:

He's American in the real world and Australian in her movie. Yeah. Then she goes to Adam Devine and then herself.

Bridget:

Question, would you want to stay in the romantic comedy?

Wendy:

I don't know. It seemed pretty cool, but you couldn't cuss or f***, so that would be a bummer.

Bridget:

Yeah. Oh, that's right.

Wendy:

I would. No, just for that, I wouldn't want day.

Bridget:

Right. Because it was like PG 13. Yes. Oh, that is so funny.

Wendy:

That was clever. All the ways that they found to cover up her cussing, the truck backing up and blender. Like, all these ways. Yeah. They can't have sex. That just always goes to the next morning.

Bridget:

She did keep trying, though, bless her heart.

Wendy:

You know, an opportunity presents itself.

Bridget:

You know what this reminded me of? Hot Frosty.

Wendy:

Oh, me too. Actually, I'm gonna have to watch that again.

Bridget:

I'm gonna say I liked Hot Frosty better than.

Wendy:

They're both good. I liked them both. Well, I love Rebel Wilson and Adam Nevine, and I love them together, so I think that boosted this movie a lot for me. But I just think they have really great chemistry together. You can tell they're, like, really friends in real life.

Bridget:

They are. And.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

And they were in Pitch Perfect together, so they already have the singing and dancing. And also, so Priyanka Chopra Jonas has singing and dancing background. I didn't realize that she's in several Bollywood movies.

Wendy:

Okay, that makes sense.

Bridget:

Yeah. There were all the montages. We love those.

Wendy:

I do love a montage.

Bridget:

When they wanted to do Express Yourself, Madonna had to approve their singing.

Wendy:

Really?

Bridget:

Yes. Cute.

Wendy:

Okay.

Bridget:

Before she would let them produce the song. Yeah.

Wendy:

That's awesome.

Bridget:

And I want to dance with somebody. It was spot on. Whitney Houston's video.

Wendy:

Oh, yeah.

Bridget:

All of it. All of was so great.

Wendy:

I loved the karaoke scene. I love how much they pointed out that would not be possible. Right. Any of the musical numbers that you see take so much fricking work to be in sync like that.

Bridget:

That was the cast's favorite scene to film. I bet the other trope that always happens when there's a karaoke is the music cuts out.

Wendy:

Who's doing that?

Bridget:

I know. It's just like in Camp Zero.

Wendy:

Yeah.

Bridget:

Do you step off the stage? Do you keep going acapella? And they always keep going acapella. And it's always amazing.

Wendy:

Right. And I love the musical number at the end. That seemed like it was probably very fun to film as well. It's like one last hurrah in the romantic comedy realm. Now they have to go back to real life. I love the moments where you can be in a musical act.

Bridget:

I know. Sometimes you just want to break into song.

Wendy:

Exactly.

Bridget:

I remember when there big flash mob craze, and I was like, I want to be in a flash mob.

Wendy:

Okay, let's do it. Let's bring it back.

Bridget:

I don't know that many people.

Wendy:

It only has to be, like, five people.

Bridget:

Okay.

Wendy:

I guess it's not a mob, but close enough.

Bridget:

Oh, my God. Corey, the guest host that we had, does DJing for weddings, and he did this wedding where the bridesmaids and groomsmen were coming in battling with swords because they were nerds. And so he had his camera ready, and I got to see this video where they went, tick, tick, and walked away. And he was like, that was lame. You could have probably choreographed a little bit better.

Wendy:

They didn't give their bridal party any morning.

Bridget:

Oh, man. It's just that people are embarrassed to be the center of attention.

Wendy:

Yes.

Bridget:

And do something out of the box.

Wendy:

You and I are both the same. This way. I'm gonna do it. Yeah.

Bridget:

Yeah. I don't care.

Wendy:

I'm gonna do it. For the bit.

Bridget:

Yeah, yeah, for the bit. Exactly. Exactly. God, did we do it?

Wendy:

Yeah, I think we did it.

Bridget:

We flick some Be okay.

Wendy:

Love you. Bye.

Bridget:

Bye. Party all night long.

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