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Episode 52: Carnivore Transformation with Melissa Bee
What happens when your body finally gets exactly what it needs? Melissa Bee’s journey from corporate burnout to vibrant health reveals the transformative power of the carnivore lifestyle. After developing debilitating tinnitus in 2010 and receiving a bleak medical outlook, Melissa refused to settle for a lifetime of medications. Her healing journey took a pivotal turn while prepping for a bikini bodybuilding competition, where a temporary shift in nutrition unlocked life-changing benefits that extended far beyond aesthetics. Now in her 40s, Melissa feels more energized and clear-headed than she did in her twenties, and she channels this vitality into coaching women facing autoimmune issues, hormone imbalances, and stubborn weight gain.
Through her coaching, she empowers clients to reclaim their health through proper nutrition, movement, and mindset. Melissa’s mission is clear: this isn’t about looking a certain way—it’s about feeling fully alive.
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Today's guest is Melissa B. Melissa comes to us from Australia. She is dedicated to empowering women to regrant in energy, lose weight and live optimally. She is active on social media and engages with the carnivore community, shares insight and hosts discussions with experts in the field. Melissa, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2:Tony, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1:I'm super excited to have you on and share your story of how you got into carnivore. I was lucky enough to be on one of your carnivore chats and it's kind of how we connected. But you've had some pretty big names on there so far.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, I've. I do have a really great network I'll just call them friends now within the carnivore community, through, you know, just connections I've made, but also the events that I hold. So the beauty of the carnivore community is that there's never really any distance between people. It's everyone just wants to be connected with everybody, and I think it's part of who we are in terms of what we're here to do, which is share our experiences with others and empower people. So, yeah, that's that's. The beauty of these connections is that we come together, we share our stories and then we empower other people, hopefully to do the same.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and a lot of the people that are on you know your your chats, you know it's crazy. We think of these people, as you know, rock stars in the community, and all you got to do is send them a DM like, hey, would you, would you like to be on a podcast or a live? And they're like, yeah, sure, absolutely.
Speaker 2:They're really good like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, and speaking of uh stories, you know, the big thing that I want to talk about, to get this kicked off, is your story and what led you to the carnivore diet, you know, and what changes uh did you experience as you went through this transition, you know, physically and mentally.
Speaker 2:Yes, absolutely. I always like to start back in 2010, where I had a heap of unrelated health issues that led to me one day being at work and my left ear starts ringing very loudly. It's very dizzy. I had vertigo. I was diagnosed afterwards with tinnitus a ringing in the ear that never goes away. I was told to take steroid nasal sprays and blood thinners for the rest of my life and there was nothing that could be done for me, and I remember walking out of that meeting saying to myself if my body has created this, then my body can perhaps work at healing it.
Speaker 2:And so it led me on a journey of kind of health and self-discovery to find the right people to educate me really on what was going on within my body, and I was just so out of balance in so many ways that I had. I was a big sugar eater, I was eating a lot of carbs, you know. I would start the day I was working a stressful corporate job in the city concrete jungle, fluoro lights and I would have Red Bull and a packet of lollies in the morning for breakfast. So that's how I was starting my day, and so I had ignored all the signs that my body was trying to tell me that you're just not treating me very well, and I ignored them all and then, at its worst, my ear starts ringing to get my attention and so that kind of set me on the path of right. Well, what am I eating? How am I living? What products am I breathing in, putting on my body, having the home, how am I thinking and feeling? What am I doing in my life? That can either help or hinder how I feel, and a lot of that, you know, has to do with the choices that we make every day with regards to daily ritual. You know, before I came on here because it's early here in Australia, I went outside. It's pretty dark at the moment, but you know, make sure I put my bare feet on the ground, do a lot of earthing and gratitude in the morning, meditation, breath work. So I wasn't aware of any of that before. I found the right people to kind of introduce me to it, and then I started practising everything, because when your silence gets taken away from you, you pretty much want to do anything to try and get it back, your silence. So, yeah, I spent a year of learning a heap of different modalities, ways of living. Back then it was more of a paleo diet, so you know, what I wouldn't eat from that now is probably rice, mainly rice, and maybe some seeds as well. But yeah, so I had a really great result after 12 months of dedicating time to healing myself inside and out, and through that process I lost a lot of weight and I was feeling great. Yeah, and that's that's kind of how my events started.
Speaker 2:Come back to events afterwards, but, and then I kind of had two children, went off the wagon a little bit, then I got divorced, went through a couple of years of stressful times and and yeah, I put all this weight back on, wasn't taking care of myself, I was really just in survival mode. And so I've just kind of explained to you my 20s and 30s and got to 2020 and I decided, okay, everything's kind of settled down in my life. Now it's time to come back to self and, you know, just do whatever I had done it in the past which I had been successful at, you know, especially to lose weight. So I implemented all of them and I'm very kind of holistic, a very conscious woman, and I just did all the things that I thought would help me and they did. I lost, you know, a fair bit of weight on my own and it set me on the path. And then I ended up meeting a local PT and coach here who had a certain program. After I told him I'd lost some weight, and he's like you know what? You don't know what this program could do for you, you should try it. And I'm like you know this is the time for me.
Speaker 2:And so I stepped into that kind of not knowing what I was getting myself into. And that's where I really got educated and taught a lot about keto and changed eating to mostly keto and then doing a lot of um, well, doing regular weight training and and my body just started to completely transform. Um, when your body transforms, I feel like you drop. I think I dropped another 10 kilos after that and you just physically shed layers, which also then enables kind of like emotional layers to come up and be shed and you become a whole new person, you know. And so in my late, late 30s I'm now 41, I started to feel like an energy and a vibrancy and kind of living in a way I hadn't lived before and that excited me a lot. And so to continue, because I'm always about self-improvement and evolving as a person and I'm like you know, I should maybe try doing a bikini bodybuilding competition just for the fun of it, to see how far I can take this. And, um, yeah, in 22, 2022.
Speaker 2:Uh, I, I started prep for that and just about four weeks out, I was um, very sick with COVID and I lost a couple weeks of prep, which is not very good when you're planning to get on stage in a really tiny bikini. And as I got better, my coach just said you know, mel, and I was very aware of carnivore at that point because he made me very aware of it. I was doing a lot of research into it anyway. So you should just jump on carnivore now. Like this is the time you got to give it all you got. I'm like, okay, fine, I'll give it a shot. So I did for four weeks and like what it did to my body was just amazing. Like it, my body never looked like that ever. But you know like aesthetically it worked for what I was using it for at the time.
Speaker 2:But like, then I started to, once I started to kind of get out of that um prep period, I realized how amazing I felt and that I was kind of living in a new way and and I knew that whatever my body needed was in what I was eating and I didn't really need to even go back to eating keto anymore. Uh, and I stayed eating carnivore and just the experience I have had with that being like clear vision, you know my skin, my hair's growing, my nails, the energy I have, the way I see life, the way I'm thinking, you know, like it's kind of up-leveled me and that's what I love about it and that's what I'm so passionate about. Like this is not a diet to lose weight, and yes, it's what I love about it and that's what I'm so passionate about. Like this is not a diet to lose weight and, yes, it's what I stepped into it for and maybe that's just the way I needed to get me into it, get me started.
Speaker 2:But now it's like gosh, why would you want to live any other way than this? So, yes, I've had moments where I've maybe gone back into a bit of Keto-vore and just realised the difference and I'll never, ever choose to stay there. I always come back, always end up coming back to Carnivore, because it's like why would you drive a Ferrari, then go and drive a Toyota and then you know, not want to come back to the Ferrari and so I love, you know, eating Carnivore because of how it makes me feel. And when I speak to people about this it's like look, I know you want to look the way I look, but I actually really want you to feel the way I feel and in most cases, kind of what they want. They just don't know it yet. They want to feel better.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, and it seems like a pretty natural progression too. And I feel like I see it a lot of people that go to paleo. That was really really big 10 years ago where people are on more of this whole foods kick. Which is? It's better than the? So the SAD diet, standard American Diet, right?
Speaker 1:I'm assuming you guys say standard Australian diet at this point, yeah very, very highly packaged foods, highly processed or ultra processed, ultra palatable things. So I think paleo it's a better start. You know, it's a way to kick off and not go cold turkey, if you will. But then keto a lot of people get into the keto space. They just feel it's simpler and easier, and then even carnivores even easier, because you don't have to worry about well, is this a net carb, is this a? How much fiber can I have? You just eat meat until you're full and then you feel good. Where in the point? How was your hearing, you know, at one point was it like from paleo or keto, where you felt like that was starting to resolve itself?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So with the paleo back in 20, say 11, I significantly lowered the ringing, significantly. I reversed any kind of issue, medical issue I'd had during that time or health issue, uh, and I was feeling pretty good. And, um, I now know what makes it worse and that's, you know, through my own experiences With keto and carnivore. Same thing it's very, very low. There are other. You know the ear ringing isn't just linked to diet, but diet is a really, really big part of it. So, yeah, I've been able to lower it. You know I've been able to.
Speaker 2:You know, keep my body, maintain my body and my physique. My health has been very stable. You know energy level's high. You know all of my. I get regular blood work done, all very, very, very normal. I had blood pressure test done the other day and he just says, for your age, that is just you are so on point with your blood pressure. He said, you know so all of my, all of my blood results have always been great. It's just your, your body is living in your body is kind of living optimally, you know yeah, and you did hit the nail on the head about people come to the diet one.
Speaker 1:It's again weight loss is a big thing. It's a part of it, uh, as part of this journey, and a lot of people try different diets because of weight loss. But, like you said yourself, it's it's not necessarily about the weight loss. Yeah, you'll lose some weight, but it's really about how you feel, because how many people in this world have done diets quote unquote diets right, and they're miserable. They may look great but they're just miserable.
Speaker 1:You know counting calories every single day. You know you're hungry all the time. It's more of like a punishment versus you go to carnivore. Can you lose and gain weight on carnivore? In my opinion, yes, because I've done. Right now I'm eating as much as I can because I'm just getting out of the winter time and I'm trying to put a muscle on. Uh, I have some competitions that I need to do, so I'm trying to put on muscle. So I've gained weight and I eat purely carnivore. So, but I can lose weight very easily as well. But how I feel during the time is is completely different than how I used to lose weight or put on weight in the past. You know, I'm not avoiding fat, I'm not limiting my protein, I'm not limiting myself in a way where I feel so run down that I feel almost sick and coming from like bikini right and any type of bodybuilding, that's like the norm. People are just like walking on death's door as they get onto the stage. Did you feel that amongst some of the other competitors.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think when I would go to my posing class I could see how they were looking and feeling and I was just like, wow, I can't resonate with what they're saying, how they're looking and feeling at all. I was very, very happy, feeling really great. You know, all the time, and you're right, like most people talk about diets and they don't like doing them, which is probably why they don't stick to them, you know. And but if you're eating and you're eating carnivores, it's like, oh, I love what I eat. My body just craves it so much in the morning that you actually love.
Speaker 2:You know, we talk about a lot of people talk about it being so restrictive. You know I couldn't restrict my food that much and it's like, well, what are you restricting in life actually by eating all this variety of food, where I'm telling you to restrict your food and you gain so much life back. You know, and that's where the contrast I like to share with people it's like you don't want to lose the variety in your food, yet you're losing variety in life by eating everything and what it's doing to you. So, hey, I would take that restriction in food to gain what life gives me because of it, and that's a really important point for people to consider if they're wanting to try this way of life.
Speaker 1:And it's. I don't even look at it as restricting. It's because, if we look at a proper human diet, like with the things that Sean Baker, ken Berry talk about, right, this is a proper human diet, this is what we're designed to eat. We're not restricting things. We're actually taking things out that shouldn't really be there in the quantities that they are. And again, you're going to have the camp of animal-based Like I'm going to have fruit every once in a while. The camp of uh, animal based like I'm gonna have fruit every once in a while, like in, in reality, that that those would be seized, very seasonal things and in sparing moderations, but you know, not to the level of, you know, packaged foods that we have accessible at the uh corner market. They just keep grabbing and grabbing and grabbing. So when people talk about restriction, it's I'm like it's not really restricted. I'm taking things out that really even shouldn't be in there in the first place. But, yeah, having another handle on life and feeling good, I mean that's more important than cupcakes. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, and you know there's always a conversation about socializing. Yes, yes, and you know there's always a conversation about socialising. I met some people some people who are quite a bit older than me yesterday invited me to lunch and we were talking about socialising. They were all carnivores and also they were just new into carnivore. They said, oh, you know, when we go and socialise, we don't want people to look at us weirdly because this is how we eat, or that we're not touching the wine or we're not eating salad.
Speaker 2:So totally your choice. You, totally your choice what you do, and just lead by example. Don't give them any reason to question you. Just do what you want to do and let them ask you what you're doing when you are, you know, losing weight and glowing and you're feeling energetic and vibrant, you know. So just because other people are not eating or drinking, what you are when you're out doesn't mean that you can't go and socialize and just choose the right things whilst you're out. You know, yesterday we had a big platter of seafood, a big platter of grilled seafood, grilled meats, and it was just beautiful, was just beautiful. You know, just gonna pick the right places and how about your?
Speaker 1:your like family members, people around you when you started making this transition. Were they giving you some concern at first? Or were there, you know, or were they really kind of hip to understanding, kind of what carnivore was at the time?
Speaker 2:no, not really. No, I'm really still. There's still a lot of people that don't understand it. But, um, I am of greek background, so it's very common for us to be eating grilled, grilled meats, so that's okay. Um, no, there's a lot of people that don't quite understand it. However, again, I just say look at me and tell me if you think I'm malnourished, tell me if you think I'm not eating what I should be, tell me if you think my energy is low or it's impacting me in any way. And I don't think I've got anything to say about how I present to the world, because, you know, I probably feel better now in my 40s than I did in my 20s and my 30s. I've kept my weight down. I've got way more energy.
Speaker 2:You, know, just happier and just more vibrant than I have ever been. I actually feel like I was when I was 18, when I had the world, you know, ahead of me. You know finishing high school and young and hormones are firing and there's just so much that carnivore does for you that I wasn't feeling in my 20s and 30s because of how I was eating.
Speaker 1:It's very funny how people get into this. Aging is a part of life and therefore I need to, you know, go with the flow of not feeling good and just kind of chalk it up to aging. And I agree with you. I think I'm stronger now. My body composition is probably the uh, but besides, like, maybe like endurance racing for me, that's when my body composition was really low Uh, besides that, taking time off from long endurance races, you know my body comp has leveled out.
Speaker 1:I feel great, I have energy, I'm stronger than I've ever been and, like you said, like I am, I feel way better than I did in my twenties. I'm 36. Now I there's, I can run circles around me, my 20 year old self, and I think a lot of people you know I have knee pain. Therefore, because I'm old, you know I, you know not going to do those kind of exercises anymore because I'm older, I think it's just kind of you know the norm and I feel like, again, like you said, lead by example of, you know, you're still working out, you're still doing all these things and you're still thriving out. You're still doing all these things and you're still thriving and feeling better than you did yesterday.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, Absolutely. You don't have kids, do you Tony?
Speaker 1:You have two.
Speaker 2:one Do, you Do?
Speaker 1:I have children. I do not have children. No, no.
Speaker 2:So so I, yeah, I've got kids and so in my twin in say like 30, yeah, my 30s pretty much. My kids were little and they're like 10 and 12 now. But I remember times where I was so out of breath I didn't have energy to run after them. We were at the zoo one day and it was hot and I remember they were running ahead of me and I just didn't have energy. I just had, you know, my back was hurting, I felt sluggish and I'm like my kids were little, I could barely run after them. And now, at 10 and 12, like now, I've got more, way more energy and I'm able to give up with them, you know.
Speaker 1:And do you instill kind of like a carnivorous diet with the kiddos, or they have a little bit more, you know, animal based, or how do you kind of you know, prescribe not prescribe.
Speaker 1:I should say prescribe. But how do you kind of plan your kiddos meal? Because it's it's again, I don't have any kids, but I believe it's difficult, especially when they're amongst other kiddos and other families and they don't kind of follow the same things that you do amongst other kiddos and other families and they don't kind of follow the same things that you do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I it's hard because when I also I'm divorced and my kids don't spend their whole time with me, so I can only control what I can control, and that through a spanner in the works in the early stages, because I was back, you know, paleo, clean eating, all of that, which is great when my kids were young.
Speaker 2:So I was really to the book and doing everything as best I could before I got divorced and then afterwards I didn't have the kids all the time and so then you know, there were other influences involved in their food choices. So all I do my best is to keep them eating a good, healthy, clean, whole food diet as best as I can. I also think 10 and 12 is a really hard age to get them to eat anything that I want them to eat, because they'll just say no, I don't want it and they just won't eat it and they probably prefer to go hungry rather than eat what I'm telling them to. And I remember when I was their age and I, my parents kind of did the same thing to me and I, you know, I wish they hadn't done that to me back then, because things like eggs or eggs, mainly eggs cheese, milk were three things that my parents kind of forced me to have, and so I don't drink milk, which I'm okay with.
Speaker 2:I don't eat cheese, which I'm okay with, but eggs is a real issue because I really wish that I could do it, but I just can't do it. And, yeah, that's because it was kind of forced on me. And so, with my kids, I just lead by example and watch what I'm doing. My forced on me, and so with my kids, I just lead by example and watch what I'm doing. My daughter will eat a steak with me for breakfast like no problems, you know, and I love that before she goes to school. My son not so much. I don't force, I just show them and eventually, when I teach them and explain to them why they're coming around a bit, it's great.
Speaker 2:I'm obviously in control of the food in the home, as is any parent, so I do my best to keep it as clean, healthy as possible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely. And then kind of on the topic of teaching you know coaching right and working with people and helping them transform their lives. You know you mainly work with women, but what are the biggest challenges that those clients face and how do you help them navigate that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, what I'm seeing is a lot of women coming to me at the same stage of life kind of as I am, or even a little bit older. My kids have grown up. I've had these years of not putting myself first. A lot of them are really overweight and living very sluggish lives, you know, really overweight for women in their 40s and 50s, and they just want to get their lives back. They want to get themselves back and a lot of them are saying you know, I want to look in the mirror and really love who I see. I want to go and buy clothing and feel comfortable in them. I want to. I need my energy back.
Speaker 2:They've all got some kind of autoimmune thyroid hormone thing going on and, yes, that is what happens with women around this time of their lives, but doesn't really have to, and not so early. So, yeah, their main struggle is like I know I need to make a change. I don't think I can do it on my own. I need you to hold my hand pretty much and hold me accountable the whole way, and you know I don't jump anyone straight into carnivore unless they really come to me and want to. We do it slowly, like I did, I think. I think keto is a great way to get started and then move into carnivore. And then we look at movement. We look at movement. So what kind of movement they're doing in their day?
Speaker 2:I like to get everybody lifting weights at some point, because I think it's really important for us to build muscle and be strong as we age.
Speaker 2:And then mindset, because you know, again, we've put everybody before us for a really long time and it's about kind of coming back to self and saying who am I, what do I deserve, what am I worthy of and how do I deserve to be living.
Speaker 2:So what I do with my clients over 90 days is just get them eating well, moving well, thinking well, and usually in that 90 days I'll drop a good load of body fat and be feeling amazing. And the idea is that I have this kind of toolkit that I slowly kind of unravel over the 90 days and then after that they're equipped with not only the knowledge and the tools but the experience to say, okay, now you can go off and do that on your own and they usually do so that they can then live life how they want to. And that's my purpose is just, you know, I couldn't have had an experience and not want to share it with other people, which is why I want to do this work, and I am doing this work with women, which also then leads to my event.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I think dr, dr kilts, which we'll probably mention in a moment here. But dr kilts, he said carnivore is like a really really like well-kept secret but but you can't stop telling people, right, like it's a secret you have, but you just can't stop telling people. And I think it is important of this is why people do Like it's a secret you have, but you just can't stop telling people. And I think it is important of this is why people do the chats, it's why people do podcasts, it's why people share stories, it's why people are now, you know, mentioning Carrie Mann, are trying to get, you know, documentaries made about this, because it's so life-changing, so kind of fast forwarding into your carnivore live events. You know what made you think like, hey, I'm going to be able to kind of have like this big event. Was it like, uh, oh, I know I can do this? Or you're like, oh, I'm a little scared to start this, but we're just going to go for it anyways?
Speaker 2:Well, actually, um, back in 2011, when I had, you know, that year of very significant personal growth, I said the same thing back then I don't want to have this experience. Maybe there's other people that are searching for this information and need it too. So I started running retreat weekends, which then led to wellness days, which then led to like book launch events, film screening launches and anything to do with kind of health, wellness, sustainability, even like personal development. I was holding events, you know, right through that time. For the last 10 years or so, I've been running events to share information with people. So, yeah, when I hadn't run an event for a little while, having you know, kind of come out of some stressful years, and I thought, well, you know, there's a lot going on in the US, why don't I contact? I'd already made some contact with people because I was already connecting with a lot of a few people in the carnival community.
Speaker 2:So I already had some nice connections through podcasting and interviews and things like that. So I just said to them hey, I sent emails out to everyone who I thought would be great to attend this event as a guest speaker. I said, hey, if I run an event in Australia, would you come? And that, one by one, it was like yep, we're there. Chafee Bella, kerry Mann and Adam from Healing Humanity, professor Bart Kay, anthony Fayez, natalie West, bradley Marshall, a local doctor here, dr Carolyn Harris, and, like it was an amazing event.
Speaker 2:And just by the way, when I I remember when I released the tickets for that event, I thought I don't know where, I don't know any other carnivores in my kind of space, only a couple. I don't know where. I don't know any other carnivores in my kind of space, only a couple. I don't know how many people are going to come to this. And then all of a sudden there's just people booking tickets from all over Australia and New Zealand and even someone came from America to attend this event and it was full, full house, and it was a amazing day, like very empowering. Um, everyone was so excited to be there, and even even for me, as an organizer, to to see all these incredible people that we'd, you know, maybe only seen on podcasts and youtube videos and on your socials all come together and they all those speakers, had never really met each other either. So, yeah, it was. It was a great, uh, it was a great day.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, that's how I got to running events and, um, yeah, we're doing another one in about I don't know three weeks, I think, in in melbourne. Uh, australia, dr kilts is coming down. Bella carnivore ray got a lot of um local speakers. We're doing a um, a carnivore in professional sports segment as well panel. So, um, yeah, we have local businesses involved that have you know, tallow products and different, you know, supplements and and, uh, earthing blankets and all that kind of thing. So, um, yeah, it is really an experience. People come and have a great experience on the day and hopefully leave either empowered to make some changes or just fired up about what they already do.
Speaker 1:That's gotta be so rewarding to like. I know a lot of work goes into that, so thanks for putting those types of events on. I know there's a lot of logistical things you have to get done of just guests and traveling and making sure everything is just right for the people that are registering, but yeah, it's got to be super rewarding to feel so good, to just step back when it's all said and done, like, wow, this was a really great event. I mean, people are yeah, like you said, people are coming from all over to rub elbows and with people in the carnivore community and also learn a little bit more as well.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, absolutely. But sometimes I hear, actually pretty often, carnivores feel a little bit isolated and, just like we talked about family before, a lot of people, especially new into carnivore, who aren't that confident yet in what they're doing. Sometimes they're a little bit unsure whether what they're doing is right or not and um, and so they keep quiet, they don't tell anyone in their circles and they feel a little bit um alone on their journey, and so the beauty of these events is to get people all into a room where they don't have to hide what they're doing and who they are and how they you know how they feel and, um, yeah, they're around like-minded people. Which I think is most important about community and live events is the bringing together of people for a common cause. You know, and like you said, carnivores like to tell everybody about their experience.
Speaker 2:This man, these people I met with yesterday, one of them in particular, had been like lifelong chronic pain in his knees, his body, he was overweight, he'd had cellulitis, very unwell, and he started carnivore just last week and overnight his knee pain went away. Yesterday he walked to the shops for the first time in he doesn't know how long and he was crying, you know, just could not believe that all it had taken was for him to change his diet like this and what it's already given him in four days. And he's a truckie, an Aussie truckie, so he drives trucks, you know. And he said I'm telling all of my truckie mates and I'm, you know, I just want to tell everybody about this, because you know, he said, I'm angry that I didn't know about this beforehand. I'm angry that I've been through so many years of pain and struggle and it took me four days, not even overnight, to feel the difference already. So I guess that's that's why people are talking about it, like us.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh, you know, so many people don't know that they're walking around chronically inflamed, right, there's just so much inflammation in the body and they're just so used to it because this is their quote, unquote state of normal, just based off of what they've been eating day after day. But when you start to take that away, oh my gosh, just the, the veil is lifted, you feel great. You, you know, those little aches and pains start to go away. I hear it all the time. People talk to me. Anybody that I get that comes to me for carnivore. Uh, within a few days, if not a week, that one nagging issue lower back, severe pain in the knee or hands. It's like, hey, I don't really don't have that pain anymore. I'm like, yeah, because you're not, you're not constantly inflamed, right. But yeah, we get the stories all the time and it's great. And you know, I appreciate you sharing your story with us and continuously having the carnivore chats, putting on the lives for everybody to come and see. And when is the one? In Melbourne? Is it April 26th?
Speaker 1:April 26th yes, yes, okay, and there's still tickets available.
Speaker 2:Yeah, still tickets available. I'll give you the link. You can share it maybe in the notes.
Speaker 2:And yeah, definitely tickets available. It's going to be an amazing day, you know, like to have all of those um experts in one room, you know, and to learn from them and to speak with them. You know, like in person is is a huge opportunity for anyone interested in either starting carnivore or you're doing carnivore and need some, you know, a bit of a boost with regards to information and knowledge, maybe to keep you going. Yes, yes, it's, it is an opportunity. We'll put it that way, definitely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and, and for some of the listeners, if they, you know, if they can't make it out there, can't make it to Melbourne, uh, you know they want to kind of contact you for coaching. Where can they uh find you or connect with you?
Speaker 2:Yes, absolutely. I live on Instagram. Instagram is where I live online, so it's at Melissa B. So M-E-L-I-S-S-A-B-E dot A-U. So, yeah, come see me there and connect with me and I, you know, I I every day try to share something inspiring, educational, you know, any value, or even just my clients' stories and experiences to you know. Just support the community around me. They've come to me.
Speaker 1:So I like to give, give as much as I can to support them. Yeah, yeah, well, keep keep sharing your story, keep helping people. You're doing a fantastic job and and you know once again, yeah, hey, thanks for coming on, I appreciate it, and one of these days we'll we'll have to run into each other at one of these events, for sure.
Speaker 2:Yes, Well, hold on a minute. I'm coming to meet stock Tennessee in in the middle of May.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to. This is like the fourth or fifth time I've been on the podcast with somebody. They're like, hey, you're going to go to meet stock. I'm like I can't. I have a um, a kettlebell certification that I'm going to. It's my dad's birthday weekend and I missed last year. So I got to come this year and I just had Sally Norton on the last episode and she's like are you going to come to MeStock? I was like, not this year but 2026, I will be there, I will make sure, and I think they're going to have it back in Tennessee again. So I would love to see everybody there. Unfortunately, you're gonna have to fill me in, uh, how it was. But uh, hopefully within the year we'll cross paths yes, definitely, absolutely.
Speaker 2:You have to come to our next carnival live next year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you got it all right well. Thanks again, melissa, for coming on, and thanks for everybody listening to another episode of the primal foundations podcast thanks for having me.