The Fearless Warrior Podcast

081: How to Start the Recruiting Process and Stand Out to College Coaches with Coach Carter

Amanda Schaefer

We are re-airing a parent workshop with Coach Ashley Carter for this week's episode! She is a hitting coach for D1 Hampton University and a mental performance coach. She gives us the inside scoop on what she looks for in a collegiate athlete and answers questions about the college recruiting process.

Episode Highlights:

• Steps in the recruiting timeline
• Create a list of potential colleges your athlete would like to attend
• Camps and clinics that are a good fit
• College coaches look beyond skills to find athletes who know their strengths 

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to the fearless warrior podcast, a place for athletes, coaches and parents who know the value of a strong mindset. I'm your host, coach AB, a mental performance coach on a mission, former softball coach, wife and mom of three. Each episode, we will dive deep into all things mental performance, mindset tools and how to rewire the brain for success. So if your goal is to gain the mental edge and learn the secrets of mental performance, mindset tools and how to rewire the brain for success, so if your goal is to gain the mental edge and learn the secrets of mental performance, you're in the right place. Let's tune in to today's episode. All right, this is the parent workshop for March 25th for Fearless Warriors. We're going to kick things off.

Speaker 1:

I am so excited to bring Ashley on, coach Carter. She's been on the podcast and I've been connected with her for the past two and a half years and currently she is the hitting coach for Hampton University, which is a division one HBCU in Hampton Virginia. Coach Carter is also a mental performance coach in Hampton Virginia. Coach Carter is also a mental performance coach and a behavioral specialist. She specializes in the disc as well, which I love, and she's a great friend of mine. So let's kick it off. Ashley, do you want to give us the one-two punch? What do you got going on on Tuesdays?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, thanks for having me. First of all, I'm glad you guys are here joining and looking forward to answering questions. So I also to figure out how to first navigate what their strengths are, who they are on and off the field, and then also how do they own those things and then how do they, when things don't go well, be resilient in that process. So that program kind of works through that. I also, in that same program, help athletes understand what it requires or takes of them to stand out in social media, in emails to college coaches, in camps and things like that. So on Tuesday nights I have a parent Facebook group called 360 Athlete and we go live in there every Tuesday at 9 pm Eastern time, 6 pm Pacific Center time and I just let people ask questions and I answer them and so, yeah, that's kind of what I have going on. So tonight I'll jump off of this and jump right onto that.

Speaker 1:

Well, we're super pumped to have you. We actually asked ahead of time. We have a list of questions that our parents submitted in our Facebook group. I've loved watching your Tuesday lives because one of the things that I really feel like you do such an amazing job of is that you're not just speaking recruiting one-sided like you're on the other side, and I have been blown away. We've had some cool conversations just you and I about. You know how many emails you're getting. What stands out as a coach, who's in charge of recruiting? And, more specifically, like, what are you looking for as a hitter? I think the game has changed a lot more, too, where you know, like, we need to recruit hitters and we need to recruit people, um, and I'm sure we're going to get into that. So let's just open it up first to you guys. Since you're here, live, who wants to go first and what questions do you have? And if you want me to read your question, you can let me know that too. Let's go, kelly. Let's. Let's fire him away.

Speaker 3:

Okay, thanks for being here. Coach Ashley, this is kind of a specific question. My daughter is an eighth grader, so we're just, you know, moving into the 2029. So trying to be prepared, and I see a lot on social media. I see a lot of athletes who have recognition from different media groups and things like best of best pitchers of class of 29, best you know infielders, and I just wondered is that something that college coaches take into consideration or look at?

Speaker 2:

That's a really great question. First of all, I'm so happy that you didn't say that my daughter's not at that point yet of being recruited. So I'm so glad at eighth grade you said that she is in that part of starting to get stuff together. So first of all, kudos to y'all for that. I think there's two layers to that.

Speaker 2:

I would say it does not hurt to be ranked and of some in some sort of recognizing, some sort of capacity, I I would say it doesn't weigh that heavy, depending on the outlet, but also, like at eighth grade, it doesn't weigh that heavy. Um, I think it's more about um, if she is ranked and we go look at her, what is her video showing around her rank? And if she's not ranked, still, when we go look at her, her social media, what is it showing about her skills, skill level at her, her social media, what is it showing about her skills, skill level at that at that age? So I think like it can be a great help to push us to look at her, but I think at the same time it doesn't weigh as heavy as far as, like you know, oh, we have to be on her. Let's put it on our list, like it's more of a just a like hey, a flashing light, like oh well, let's go see what that's talking about. Good question.

Speaker 3:

Thank you. The reason I ask is because my daughter plays in a program. It seems like some programs the coaches are more inclined to nominate their athletes and then other programs the coaches are busy coaching and doing other things and they don't focus on that and doing other things and they don't focus on that.

Speaker 2:

So I wasn't sure. I'm also glad that you said that, because I think that's part of the process that you should be going through right now in eighth and ninth grade is like what are the coaches and the teams providing as far as exposure for your athlete? I think if they have the goals of playing at a high level, you kind of have to be more I don't want to say selfish, but you have to be more self-reflective on is this current program? Although maybe her friends are on the team, maybe she's used to it, she's comfortable there but is this program, does it have a trajectory of getting athletes to a high level? And if not, we have to create that in other ways.

Speaker 2:

And so I would say you know what tournaments are they going to? You know what coaches do they have connections to? What athletes have graduated that program, gone on to play at high levels? I think all these things you should be looking at as you're deciding on teams right now, cause I say she's right at the middle of developmental and being competitive at the same time. So that sort of shift is happening right now. So now it's definitely time to figure out where is the competitiveness coming from, and how is it being exposed to other coaches?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, thanks for following up with that, because that was actually related to the second question I submitted was the team that she's on at this point. I was looking at their schedule and it's not what I expected, and I believe the team the team has competed at higher levels, but everybody's not on the same Everybody at this age. The athletes have different goals in life and my daughter is very directed, and so we're just trying to figure out how we can get her among people who have the same goals in the next year or two. Yeah, so thank you.

Speaker 2:

Very good and I definitely look for that. Softball is challenging because it costs a lot. There are a lot of sheeps in, or what do they say, wolves in sheep's clothing, and I think people say a lot of things. So I think really it's looking back at the track record, it's really looking back at what has history said about that program. Not where they want to be, unfortunately, it's like where have they been? You know, and I think that's really important to navigate this process and you know people are like man, you might as well just pay for them to go to school. For how much paying softball and it sucks, but at the same time, like you got to get on some of those exposure teams, you got to pay for the extra coaching. You got it like got to do those things If the goal is to play at a high level.

Speaker 1:

That's the amazing questions. We actually had another submission who's not here live, but I kind of have categorized these. Kim Timmons asked a similar question, her daughter's 13. And she said do we need to look for a travel team that focuses on recruiting? And I'll add to that question what? How do you know if they're focusing on recruiting? Like what would you look for?

Speaker 2:

yeah, so that I would say the types of showcases they're going to, types of tournament they're going to.

Speaker 2:

There are a lot of teams, I think. I think at first, if, if a travel team is still figuring out the whole recruiting process, they're going to try to find showcases that say showcases or college coaches will be there and I think that's great. But I think if you're not going to some of the like the States where softball is prominent, so like, if your teams are not going to California and Arizona and Georgia and Texas, florida, if they're not sort of going I think even Nebraska has a pretty high level softball community, so like, if they're not sort of going, I think even Nebraska has a pretty high level softball community so like, if they're not traveling to these places Colorado, they're not traveling to these places where other top teams are going to. That's probably the first indicator that maybe they're trying to figure it out, but they probably haven't figured it out yet. I would say the second thing is you know again who has gone through that particular program, what's sort of the trajectory from? You know 12U, 14u, 16u, 18u. Do they have those trajectories or are they just you know the top of their? They're the top at 14U, it's like okay, like you can buy into it and believe in it and hopefully it works out.

Speaker 2:

But if they don't have that sort of connection with coaches, then I think we have to find that because and here's why and I think we have to find that because here's why because between, like before junior year of high school, why a lot of people think that recruiting doesn't need to start sooner, is because we can't technically talk to radar. For a while They've been to our camps, they've done all the things that have got onto their radar, um, and so I've also, just in context, I've worked, I've coached for a higher level division one school in the university of Washington and now I work at an HBCU. So our, our trajectories are a little different, but still, we're still looking for athletes ahead of time. So at UW we were recruiting eighth and ninth graders, or at least not recruiting. We were putting them on our watch list and they would get them to our camps.

Speaker 2:

So, with the teams, what I'm getting at with that is that the coaches become the liaison, the connecting piece between us and you guys as parents and family and so like, if your 14U team is the top of that level but you don't know that they have these connections or are in communication with these coaches. Those are questions you should probably ask, you know, to kind of have a better understanding of are they a team that think that can get there? And, if not, like, do they know somebody that knows somebody, that knows somebody you know to get them connected, because I think that's really important, know to get them. To get them connected, because I think that's really important. So, um, that that sort of thing I would look for. You know, what tournaments are you going to? What's the trajectory of the program itself? Um, what other players have already been, um, you know, recruited from out of that program? And then, if not, like you know, can the coaches say that they have connections at some of those places?

Speaker 4:

awesome that was really helpful to understand how that whole process works, cause sometimes as parents we don't really quite understand the whole travel, like if all travel ball is the same I know it's not, but just how it all works together, and so that was really um helpful how clear you were on that. How do you feel about like college camps?

Speaker 2:

um as far as like on their campus or yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So let's be real. Um, depending on the level high or highest of the level there are layers to it. So, like I always tell parents, um, at like. So, at the University of Washington, for instance, I was a volunteer assistant coach and the camps that we ran, although we were looking for athletes, we also were getting like 200 people to come to the camp at the same time. So I was a volunteer, I made zero money from the school, but I got paid $4,000 a month and it came from the camp. So, like the understanding of that, the raw, the real of that is that that's what happened, that was that's what happens there. But I I think how we look at it, how old is your daughter?

Speaker 4:

She's a freshman.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So how I would look at it is in the eighth grade, ninth grade year I would suggest going to the local schools, whether whatever level, because what what you want to do right now is determine where her skill level matches to others in her age group and you'll find that and what players or people are attracted to that school, what, what players do that Does that school attract? What level of play does that school attract? So you'll get that information locally and then I think, once you kind of have that understanding, then she can start pinpointing sort of that process of what other schools kind of fit that sort of level for her. So I it's necessary, it's an evil. Necessary because you also get to experience the campus, Like what is it like around the campus, what's it like in the campus, Also experience the players perspective, because the players usually work those camps. So now you're getting the opportunity to, you know, kind of ask questions amongst the players that are already there and again, we can't necessarily talk to a lot of athletes in certain tournament environments on our campus. You do get the opportunity to ask questions specifically to that coach. You get to know a little bit more about our coaching style, what we're looking for what we're harping on in that space. So I think there are it's a necessary evil to that process.

Speaker 2:

But also recognize some schools. I think if you're a junior senior and you haven't had any conversations with these coaches but you're going, you're paying two to $300, $400 to go to camp. I would not advise that. But if you're in ninth grade, 10th grade, locally, get a feel, understand and then when you are starting to 10th grade, 11th grade, look at certain schools and you are trying to get, you're getting a little bit interest. I would say in those cases, get to those schools, pay that money and I think look for camps that say prospect, Cause they'll usually have camps that are like oh, like all skills and they'll have youth, of course, Right, but you want to look for ones that like say prospect camps at those levels, recruiting camp, because then then then you know like they're also looking for those players that potentially they want to recruit.

Speaker 4:

And then like so you're used to a d1 school or d2 and d3, kind of the same situation um, good question.

Speaker 2:

So I have, I've coached. Actually I didn't give you guys a background, but I've coached at every level possible in aia, d2, division one, um, community college, and so I would say d2 uh, similar I think, it's, just the timeline is different. So I would say, definitely more open to sophomore juniors, juniors, for sure, at the division two, level D3, they're looking for, you know, high academic athletes who probably have a little bit of money to pay for school because or at least get high academics to get recruited for academic scholarships. So it wouldn't be as far as like cut off, don't go, and they also wouldn't charge you $400 to go to their camp either. They would probably be more realistic around 150, between 80 and 150, 180 at the most. So I think that's a little more reasonable to kind of cast your net. And, yeah, this is as well for sure. Yeah, did that answer?

Speaker 4:

the question.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that did that was helpful yeah, I love doing this, by the way, so like there's no, no questions that are um okay, I'll ask another question limits, because I think I want to provide this for for parents.

Speaker 4:

So do you um how many letters, like do players send in letters of interest to schools?

Speaker 2:

yeah, it's a. It's a, it's a it's a different touch. I like it because, um, it's different than just the classic email, you know. So you actually get a paper, um a paper letter, and I think sometimes they put like their picture, like a picture of like their profile or whatever in there. So, yeah, I think those are always good touches.

Speaker 4:

Yet we do get those Does that like help with recruiting, does that, or do you kind of already have your list of players?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know what, like I would, I think anything you do to stand out, that would be something that stands out, because that's it's not the norm as much as you think it is. Um, um, I, so I I would say it does. It does stand out when you do receive handwritten letters from athletes. But I think, like in general, there are a couple of things that I really believe that, um, we're like can stand out to coaches, and so I think, like, part of it is it goes back to why I run my program is, I think a lot of athletes don't know what their strengths are, what they offer to a program, and so then they don't sell that or market that to coaches in a way that they're confident in it. So so for me, like with my program, the goal is to always, like, help them highlight what I would say.

Speaker 2:

What are the three things that, like, you want coaches to know about you and how do you show that in every aspect that you're, you're doing social media emails, you know, at the camps, how are you showcasing those things? And it doesn't have to be flashing light things, but it's like you know, hey, I'm really good at being a good teammate, I'm really good at, you know, strategically thinking about the game as a catcher, whatever it is Like. I'm really good at building a relationship with my, with my catcher, with my pitcher as a catcher, like these are things that like, if they recognize what those things are.

Speaker 1:

So, to build on that, as I'm kind of going through this document and highlighting one of the questions, a lot of them, and we can go high level too. Kim Timmons, my daughter, is 13 and in seventh grade. We're from a small town that doesn't get a lot of visibility. So right now we're talking about how do you create this visibility, and we've talked about camps, we've talked about outreach, and so the high level question is like when? When do you need to start thinking about all of these things? And another parent, stephanie Wynn, said how early do you really need to start? So if you could start, and then we can get deeper into the weeds on some of these questions, that's like a big one leave.

Speaker 2:

As I mentioned, that seventh, eighth grade mark is the deciding. It should be a decision that's being made that I want to play this sport at the next level. So, seventh grade, I'm making this decision. Eighth grade, I'm like, okay, I'm really going to make this decision, that I want to go all in on this particular sport. So we start there.

Speaker 2:

I think then, what you do, as I mentioned before eighth grade is I would start finding the local tournaments and if there's not local, like how local, how close can you get to a school? Get to those. And then I would, I would use those more. Where my tournaments are going. Do they have camps or skills sessions with coaches at those tournaments? Ok, cool. So start there, start to get a feel for what coaches are talking about, what they're looking for. But that's a way to expose yourself at a young age.

Speaker 2:

Seventh, eighth grade, ninth grade year, I would say what? What we do, what I like to do, is, at ninth grade, we should have a top fifties list of schools that we're interested, interested in, and I would cast a wide net. So I would say you know, I actually have this formula. I got to figure out, I wrote it down somewhere that um, one of my players that I worked with created. So one is like the first five are like my dream top, top, like like unreachable, but I'm going to try my best to get there. Top five, right, um. And then the next 10 are usually like what she say, like reachable, reach, or it's a reach, it's still a reach, um, so it's like it's still something that you know. It's pretty high level. But, like you know, if I keep working at it I'm a nine three, I keep working at it I might have an opportunity to play there, I can probably play there. Then there's like 10 that are the reachable. So like it's like all right, like I know where my skill is at. If I keep growing, I'm for sure going to be able to play there, and again, it can be in any division.

Speaker 2:

And then there are like my what did she say? Like my 10 safety schools, right. And so then we're talking about like all right, like, if nothing else works out at this sort of high level, they have my major, they want they, they have my major, they're an area I want to be in. You know they have the sport. Okay, cool, I'm gonna look at that. So then we kind of break it down in that sort of way. I have to give AB the exact breakdown. When I find it I'll send it to you, but I think you should start there and I think any ways that you can get to not 50, but how can I get to some of those areas? I can get a feel and say, ok, I do like this and I like this about this school. I don't actually like this school. I'm going to take it off the list and it helps me narrow it down and I'll start again with the local ones and then again progress from there and keep dwindling that list down.

Speaker 2:

I would say 10th grade.

Speaker 2:

We really should be hitting up those bigger showcases. You know the sparklers, the I think it's called NIT I forgot what it's called. It's another one in Colorado at the same time, some of those PGFs. I would get into those spaces and I think what happens with those camps is they also have schools at those camps usually that run tournaments at the beginning or end of those events. So I would say that'd be a good place to kind of catch multiple schools at one time that are usually high level um Oregon's and um Washington's and uh Georgia's, and they usually have hosts, those camps, at those tournaments, so that's helpful to kind of get there.

Speaker 2:

And then I would say, yeah, um, by the 10th grade, ninth, 11th grade year you should be hitting those sort of five to 10 schools that you're really really interested in and like hitting them hard emails, right, social media tagging get into their schools, get into their camps. By your junior year, if you're really interested in that school, you should have been to that school at least twice, so to at least kind of get a feel for that. I would say that's kind of I kind of I don't know if I answered the question all the way, but that's kind of what I had.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and you also answered another question. A lot of these overlap. One of the questions that you also answered in that stint was is it better to start with a smaller school and then try to move up? And you're you're answering that right. You got to start with a list. I think that's the biggest mistake. I see this a lot with my one-on-one athletes. When we touch on recruiting, it's like I can't help you until you give me a starting spot right, like yeah.

Speaker 1:

I want to go far away from home. Like I have athletes that are from the Midwest. I wish I could go back. I didn't know I could play softball in Florida. When you give them that option, they're like oh, you mean, I don't have to go to the college just 30 minutes down the road, which that's what I did and I loved it.

Speaker 2:

So it as like lists of division one schools division two schools, division three schools and where they're located, as well as, I think, even coaches information sometimes. So use the heck out of those spaces that have created these databases that you can easily pull up. I think scout recruit is another one that's the same way. So I think those spaces you can get a lot of information just as far as like where to start. You know what's the school information if you don't want to look them up one by one, although I recommend that sometimes once you get the list a little bit lower.

Speaker 1:

but yeah, Good Coach Carter. This is awesome. Tessa, do you have any questions that you want to ask live?

Speaker 5:

Well, I feel kind of out of the loop because I just missed the last little bit because my dang phone died, so sorry about that. Um, I I'm kind of echoing some of the things that were said previous to that question about living in a small town area not having that exposure. Like, how do you make those connections for your daughter? Um, my daughter's a seventh grader, going into eighth grade. So, yeah, how do you make those connections? How do we get her connected with that next level?

Speaker 5:

Yeah, she's doing the USA softball tryout in Kansas City in April, so hopefully that will help.

Speaker 2:

That would really help, yeah, that would for sure help.

Speaker 5:

So was she invited to that? Yeah, she did a trial and qualified for the second round.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so she's already on some people's databases, I'm sure because of that. And so I think, like, when she's there, if she could hopefully she's not too shy, she might be. But I would say, like, how can I stay connected with some of those folks, um, whether it be like get grab their email, you know, and just be like hey, like you know, if I'm going to this process, I'm from a small town. I would love to get some insight from you, um, as far as, like, what I should be doing. You know, even like they probably give them, like they give them feedback if they get selected or not. So, yeah, using that feedback would be really great, right, and I think they'll. That's a really good space to kind of figure that where she's at compared to some of the other people in the country. So that's, that's actually a really good opportunity. I also think that's.

Speaker 5:

Nebraska. Right yeah, we're from Kearney.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so a couple of the girls that have made team USA for those things have actually attended the retreat. So you might remember Gretchen, um, and so when Ashley is telling you some of these things, too, of like, think laterally as well, because some of those families are, you know, like Gretchen plays for the ACEs organization, which, if you might be familiar, she also has to travel to Kansas city, and when you start connecting with those parents, they're going to want to answer it for you as well, and so if you can connect with more of those, even at the tryouts whether she makes it or not and I really hope that she does yeah, it's, it's what coach Carter is trying to get you to see is like it never hurts to ask, like I think sometimes there's this taboo and I can speak to it right, like I still have nightmares and scarring and I'm 33 and I'm like, could I have? Could I have?

Speaker 5:

I don't know, like I didn't know enough about recruiting, and so the more you ask, the more you turn over stones, like yeah, and I think it's just that that fear of like, if I ask people are going to going to be like seriously like you're asking for your daughter to get some exposure, and I don't, I don't want it to come off like that at all. So yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, if she can ask, you can give her, you could feed her the words, but I think that's always better too. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Awesome. Any follow-up questions for anyone live. I know we're almost over on time. Um, we kind of hit all of our questions. One of the questions that I see um, things to consider when picking your top schools. Um, we just had an amazing guest speaker that's going to be aired tomorrow on the podcast. So when you're listening to this, if you're listening to this episode on the podcast, go back and listen to the Malia Andrews podcast, which coach Carter are you feeling I love Malia?

Speaker 2:

I saw Malia doing that with her. I said what Well?

Speaker 1:

so she, so Malia's mom coached Kara, who's on our team, so it's like the softball world is just like mine right now.

Speaker 2:

I know, wow, yeah, her mom and I coached the four the 14 U team in Washington together.

Speaker 1:

No way Okay.

Speaker 2:

This is too cool. Um, I actually knew Malia with like. I saw Malia when she was like in eighth grade and I was like she's gonna be good and she had the opportunity to play at a lot of different schools but she, um, she chose Western Washington. I'm glad she did um, because it's just a really good fit for her.

Speaker 1:

They value her a lot and, um, you know she's, she's just thriving there really that right there things to consider when picking your top schools, like just just go listen to that podcast episode. Um, here's, here's one that will kind of like. This pulls on my heartstrings what if she doesn't get recruited? Is there still a chance of her playing somewhere?

Speaker 2:

Absolutely, absolutely, I think. I think one of the one of the biggest, though, is that we get stuck in this comparison cycle because we see big schools, but there are so many schools out there and, and I think where people get lost is again if they're, you know, getting older and they haven't got the responses that they want. First of all, are they doing the work to get the responses that they want, which is part of the problem, and then I think the second part of that is, um is that if they're not, if they are doing the work and they're not getting the responses, like I think, at some point, depending on how old they are, like knock on different doors, and I think that's the struggle that they struggle with is I'm still trying to go after the university of Washington as a junior, like that probably just isn't the best. That's not the best response to that process, and I think it goes back to literally what you said and what I said about Malia um is that I think, like you, have to understand that even though, like someone doesn't see your value, they're not recruiting you, it doesn't mean you're not valuable, so that means there's always a place where they're going to value what you bring to the table. You got to find that place and that's the hardest part, but I think the more that you put into this process, the more you're going to find those people that value who you are, and I think that's the part we have to get to.

Speaker 2:

I would also say to this is that I think why I go back to what I said earlier about the three things that you want to demonstrate or showcase toter and I'm measuring myself of a power hitter and I never succeed as a power hitters. I never hit home runs, I'm only hitting pop flies. Then I'm going to feel like I failed or I struggle, because I am trying to measure myself based on something that I'm not Versus. If I went back to what is a contact hitter someone who's gritty, who's going to get the ball, who's going to get the job done, who's going to hit behind runners, who's going to move runners? Right, you might bunt sometimes, you might hit behind the runner, sometimes you might hit slow rollers, but they're going to be great.

Speaker 2:

You might hit balls in the outfield more in a line drive myself and, that being successful as that, I'm going to have more success than being a homerun hitter, and so I think, like for athletes in general, and why I'm so glad that your athletes are in this particular program, is because with like things like mental performance training and coach AB and myself is we're trying to get to the root of our identity, our why and our strengths. And I think once we can understand and navigate that process, we can freely showcase that in our emails, we can freely showcase that in our social media, we can freely showcase that when we're at camps and if they can lead with those things, that's going to put them in a much better space than again trying to be something that they're not. So I think that's the that's important to this process as well.

Speaker 1:

That just put like the most beautiful bow on this. We appreciate your time so much. That just put like the most beautiful bow on this. We appreciate your time so much. And I have to call this out um, because you are humble and I know that you're just here to serve, but you also, this is your, your, your living and your impact on girls, and so you have this expertise. What is the best way that parents can work with you? I know right now you're doing social media audits, right, are you still doing those? Yep, so you're offering those. We canits, right. Are you still doing those? Yep, so you're offering those. We can have that link as well.

Speaker 1:

If you want to book Ashley, she'll literally and this has been so cool for me, too is she'll go to your daughter's recruiting profiles and give you real time feedback. There's some great examples in her 360 athlete group as well for parents, where you can literally see not only what she's looking at, but she's going to give you recommendations as well. I wish I would have had that. That would have been amazing. And then she also has her 360 athlete program and you know, one-on-one coaching as well. So we're all about elevating the field of mental performance and I would bring in any recruiting expert, but truly, like the fact that Ashley understands this from all levels as a mental performance coach like I didn't want to just bring in someone that knew recruiting like truly, ashley will care about your athlete as a whole person and 360 athlete is exactly that. So it all, it all clicks.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely, absolutely. Well, I appreciate y'all's time and um, you have to answer some questions to join to join the parent group. But it's there 360 Athlete on Facebook group on Facebook, the 360 Athlete and what it does is we every Tuesday go live. I always post in there different things that I see. I do audit social media spaces and then I just post it in there so people can kind of see what I'm looking at or what I see about those social media profiles and things like that. So check it out.

Speaker 1:

Amazing. Well, I will get that in our fearless warrior portal for you guys as members, you guys will have access to all those links. You don't have to wait when the replay comes out, we'll make sure that you get those. And if you're listening to this on the podcast check the show notes.

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