I THOUGHT IT WAS MANUFACTURED UNTIL THE LIVESTREAM: CA Mosque Shooting

I react to new details around a shooting after the manifesto and livestream drop, and I explain why my first read was off. I keep coming back to the same point: the politics are loud, but mental illness and online obsession feel like the real engine. 

• Quick correction after new information comes out 
• Confusion around the manifesto’s mixed targets and messaging 
• Livestream evidence and the copycat shooter problem 
• Mental illness as the core issue behind the headlines 
• SSRIs and long-term medication concerns, including personal experience 
• Being a veteran, fear after injury, and why going back mattered 
• Social media doomscrolling, engagement bait, and nonstop hot takes 
• Argument for bringing back asylums or long-term facilities 
• Brief detour into “old world” structures and cover-up theories 

Transcript

Cold Open And Quick Hello

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You're listening to the objective jerk, and I am said jerk. What's up? What's up? What's up? So I was correct in predicting that the manifesto would come out immediately. However, I appear to be wrong on a lot of other things. Maybe. We'll see. I don't know. Let's talk about it. So yeah, I did the I did uh was it yesterday? Yesterday the day before I

First Reaction To The Shooting

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recorded because you know the shooting had just happened, and it was just like, what? This doesn't what like none of it made any sense. Which I mean to be fair, a lot of times that's how it is, right? But I you know, them ending themselves the way it did just didn't seem right, and a lot of other stuff. A lot of people are saying they were trans. I mean, they kind of look like it, but there's nothing that says, you know, there's no neighbors or anybody that was like, oh yeah, they were trans. They were, you know, whatever. Maybe it'll come out. Maybe they're gonna hide it. Because no, you know, this isn't being reported on really that much, you know, and I think it's just because it doesn't it doesn't support any agenda, really, you know what I mean? Left or right, really. Now, if if it comes out that they were trans, then you know, Fox and them are gonna go and start running with it. That's why I hate the news, man. But yeah, so it just seems like they were just psycho. They were just really, really mentally ill. So the the manifestos were released, which was, you know. And they there's live stream video of them ending themselves, so

Livestream Proof And Copycat Obsession

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my theory on that is not supported. But it does appear that they just really were infatuated with other shootings and other shooters, specifically like the one in New Zealand who live streamed a lot of stuff. And but it's kind of weird, like their manifesto, like they they hate everybody, you know what I mean? And they specifically point at Jews, but then they went to a mosque, but I guess they went to the mosque maybe because that's what the other guy did. I don't know, man. It's kind of weird. It really doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Maybe that's what makes it organic. I really thought that it was like completely fake. The biggest thing is the the live stream of them ending themselves. But I don't know. This is just crazy though. I mean, whether they're trans or not, mental illness is is a problem. Big time. And it's and mental

Mental Illness And Long-Term Meds

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illness and and the medicine that people are given, you know, it does help some people. But usually it's temporary, you know. You have people who it's probably not doing what it should be doing, like they shouldn't be taking it, but they still take it, and they take it for years and years and years, and I think it really fucks people up. I've been on I've been on some stuff since I should have got on some stuff like as soon as I got out of the army. Went and seen, you know, I probably would be a little better than I am now. I'm not bad. I'm not good, but I'm not bad. You know, I think I've told the story that, you know, I in my the truck where I got the hurt them when when I got my purple heart, you know, the two other guys in my truck, they they went home. They survived. We all survived, which was kind of a miracle in itself at that time with the the you know the EFPs they were using and everything. But anyway. Oh, also I'm not doing a video for this one. I'm just gonna record a podcast because I just did one, so and it's the podcast that I care about. Anyway, so the two guys in my truck, they were hurt worse than I was. So they had to get airlifted out, they went and had to have surgery, and then they went home. So I was injured, I have you know, shrapnel on my body still, but there was no major injuries. You know, I had I got some stitches, some wounds sewed up, and and that was it. You know, there were I stayed. And at the time I was kind of like, oh man, what the crap? Because I my head was like not in a good place, and then and then when I went on RR, it was like still even worse, and the idea of going back. I was so afraid that I was gonna just freeze up when something bad would happen, and you know, my freezing up would get somebody killed or something, you know. But you know, the psychologist I talked to said it, you know, the best thing for you is to go back. And you know, I was like, fuck. Okay. But I'm glad I did though. Gotten some other stuff, but nothing as severe. But I think that helped, you know. I you know, I think maybe sometimes if I hadn't stayed and if I would have gone home, I don't know, maybe I wouldn't still be married, you know what I mean? Because my wife is she's tough and and you know, she puts up with a lot with me, but I don't know if she could have handled where I could have been there. I don't know, who knows, maybe not. But anyway, so the point is, you know, I I started taking SSRIs, S RIs, whatever they're called. I always forget the S, one of them, or I add one, I can't remember. Anyway, so I started taking them in 2019, and then I pretty much stopped taking them 2020, the end of 2024, I want to say. So five years, right? I mean, I'm still still taking some other stuff. That's for like pain, my back pain, and it's kind of like a mood thing, but I'm trying to get myself off of that too. However, I am back on a different SRI, I guess. But knowing what I know now, it's like I really don't want to do it for very long, you know. Like I'm at the very most a year. Because I I think it did help it helped me get through whatever, you know what I mean? But it was like I didn't have a, you know, I mean, part of the problem was I moved here to the Philippines. I think if I would have been in the States talking with my doctor that I started with and everything, they probably would have you know taken off some of it or tried, you know, different things, but don't really have that here. I mean, there's a VA and stuff, but it's just not the same. So if I was in the States, maybe I wouldn't have taken

War Injury, PTSD Fears, And SSRIs

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it as long, but but I just kind of found myself being like very not catatonic or anything, but just just very like muted, you know. And so now I'm on something to kind of help, whatever, but then hopefully I don't know, trying to balance it out and then get rid of all of it eventually. But but yeah, so I mean, I couldn't only imagine like if you're like a young kid and you get on whatever they prescribe for antidepressants or anxiety or whatever, and then they're on it for like 10 years or something. I think it could really mess you up, especially if you stop taking it or you know, when you get older and you start drinking, mixing it with alcohol and various things, it just makes it worse. That's probably what it is, really, or a big part of it. Anyway, so yeah, mental illness is man, that's the thing right now, and that's kind of why the news isn't really talking about it. You know, I mean, you still have people on social media like, oh, anti-Muslim, you know, that kind of crap and stuff, or and then oh, they're trans, they're trans, you know, from the right, and then so I don't know. They the dude looks trans, but who knows? But even so, I mean, that's that's the big thing with trans, is like they're just they're mentally ill, you know.

SPEAKER_01 9:29

So I guess they I don't know, like they wrote a bunch of crap.

SPEAKER_02 9:33

They wrote they wrote hate crime on their weapon, not hate crimes, like different types of hate crimes. They wrote the word, the phrase, quote unquote hate crime or hate crimes or something like that. And that seems odd to me, you know? The the gas cans with the SS logos, who's gonna I don't know, that that just seems like an overkill. Like, are you really it just kind of seems like somebody's trying to I guess maybe they were just trying to really send a message, or it's it's either I guess maybe they were doing the mess, you know, I don't know, it just it just seems retarded to me, or somebody's trying to make it seem like, you know, but that's why, you know, before the live stream came out and all the stuff, it was like it just seems so weird that that kind of crap, and then all of a sudden they just they got away, but then they killed themselves. It was weird. But that's what happened, you know. So I don't know. Do I think I mean do I now I'm thinking it's a little more organically, it's not a hundred percent, you know, created or or conspiracy like I thought yesterday. I'm not saying it's still not, but now I'm more in the eh, it's weird. You know, at first it was like, dude, this does not look this looks fake. Now I'm like, ah crap, okay. Well, they're definitely crazy. It sucks. But it's like it's just none of it makes any sense, you know. But I mean, what in the last so many years, none of these have made any kind of sense. I mean, most shootings don't make sense, they're just unhinged people, and it's just mentally ill people, you know, that's the problem. I just find it kind of weird though. The weirdest thing is like the manifestos and that they released it right away. Especially when it doesn't really. I thought when they would release the manifesto, when I heard that the manifestos were out, I was like, oh, here we go. And it's gonna be like, you know, oh, we hate Trump. Which it does, or not we hate Trump. We hate, you know, all the colored people in America and all that kind of crap. But it it just you know, it was all they hate everything and everybody. And they just kind of grabbed all the hate talking points. I don't know, man. It's really weird. It's like they just brainwash from social media. I think it I don't know, man. Social media is probably

Social Media, News Incentives, And Labels

SPEAKER_02 12:26

a big part of it. I know social media messes with me. I I talk about it sometimes, but I don't I don't really get on it anymore, and I'm slowly like trying to get on it less and less. Like, I don't stay on X at all because it's just filled with just the most retarded takes. And a lot of it's just people are saying like they don't even believe it, you know, they just are saying crap because they know they're gonna get interaction and all that kind of stuff. So a lot of it's just kind of bullshit. But it's just the same kind of I'd say I'm I'm I'm done. I I don't know, I don't care about what everybody thinks. And that's the problem, is like you know, you know, you when I grew up, it was just you hung around the people you had similar whatever with. People who didn't have the same beliefs or likes as you. You didn't hang out with them, you didn't really know exactly their every you know, waking opinion and you know, all this stuff that people just post all their stuff, and sometimes you did, and sometimes you got in fights or whatever, but you know, like I I remember when I was so like I talk about how I was like liberal, not I mean, I was brought up liberal, and I I yeah, I mean I didn't you know I didn't know the term liberal, you know, but I mean but I was I was young and I fell into all that kind of crap, right? But I remember I dyed my hair, but it was like yellow because it was I tried doing it blonde and I had dark hair and it didn't turn out that great, but I still kept it like an idiot. But I remember going to a gas station and this guy, he was a little drunk, I'm sure, but there's a white dude, and the guy working at the gas station was somebody of color. I don't remember if they're like Indian or what. But the guy at the gas station, the customer was just berating this guy, you know, talking shit about, you know, you know, normal kind of hate kind of stuff, you know, racial, can't speak English, this, blah, blah, blah. Right. And then he turns, and I'm like standing behind him, and he turns to me, probably hoping to get like someone to join with him and like, yeah, agree with him and whatever. But then he notices my hair, you know, and he's like, he's like, what the hell, you know, it's like, oh, you don't, you know, I don't I don't remember the you know exactly what he said, but and he's like, how do you you know what and then he asked something about like how my hair got like this, and I said it was like bad shampoo or something. And then he said some stuff I can't remember now, but and then he left or whatever. I kind of thought something might, you know, maybe he was gonna.

SPEAKER_01 15:40

But you know, it's why was I talking about this?

SPEAKER_02 15:49

Oh, okay, so then, you know, that was that was the only kind of you know, the thing is, is like I maybe I I don't sound like it sometimes, but I was pretty I never was like mean or hated anybody because of color or anything, but I used to get shit all the time. And I've got a like a handful of stories. I mean, it's nothing like some people experience, but still it's just like, but I mean I'm not like bitter about it, I don't hate, it's just that individual, you know, at the time. But then I don't know, it's just you know, it's not like I hate all whatever. I mean, I don't like the extreme Muslims, you know, and kind of like what's what they're kind of doing, and like they come over to other like they're in the states trying to like you know change the laws with like pork and all that kind of shit. It's like no, you can't go back to if you want that, then go back to your country, you know. If you're in America, you you need to, I'm not saying you you shouldn't like not be able to eat pork or find places that you know, but you're gonna, you know, that's like us going over there and telling them, like, oh, why women should not be wearing the hijab and this and that, and you know, it's like, no, that's not how it works. I don't know, that's just kind of dumb. And then and then when you say stuff like that, it's like you're Islamophobic. Oh, I said it right. Or whatever, you know what I mean? It's just like, no, it's just I'm common sense, man. It's just you don't it's people are starting to be Islamophobic big because of all the crap that's coming down, you know, from Muslim groups. And it's not all of them, you know. It's like I I've I've known and and you know, people who are Muslim and had no problems at all with them.

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But I don't know, it's just it's just kind of crazy, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 18:08

I think it's just I think these kids, I think it was just S S R Is, S S R Is, whatever you say. I'm gonna just say S R I's because that's easier. And just like social media, just non-stop scrolling on TikTok and whatever, and people spouting, you know, the stuff that they you know, and then like, yeah, yeah, then they just and it just kind of fuels it, and they get so and then they just really kind of seem to worship other shooters, the New Zealand one, and they thought, like, hey, we're gonna we're gonna inspire someone else. And they that's they liked that idea of guests, inspiring other people to do something in the way that they did it. But you know what's mental illness, just because it it just the the mosque makes no sense. Their manifesto really makes no sense, you know. They're just fucking crazy. These two should have been patient zero and the new asylums, you know what I mean? It's like, man,

Asylums, Accountability, And Old World Theories

SPEAKER_02 19:18

they need they I hope they do. They need to bring asylums back. You know, when people do something, because it's like, you know, a lot of people a lot of these people who were doing shit, they don't get prosecuted. They're like, hey, they're not, they didn't really, they're just not mentally well. Okay, well, so you just let them back into society? You know, they need a place to go. People who do something that's, you know, illegal or whatever, and they're mentally ill. That's what asylums were for. I mean, asylums were also for supposedly, you know, trying to silence people from the old world, you know, people that remembered how things were and they wouldn't they wouldn't confirm or couldn't not confirm. You know, what's the word? They wouldn't go along with the story, and so they put them in the asylums. That's what a lot of people think. That's kind of a crazy story. Have you heard that? So you know, you guys know how there's like a new world kind of, you know, like a lot of the buildings and structures that are in America were not built by us, they were already here by a preexisting society, and the flood did happen, and there's proof of that, and the flood actually buried a lot of and got rid of many things that you know were part of that civilization. But some of the stuff that was left was the structures, because if you if you look, check out oh man, what's it called? My lunch break, I think it's called. This guy, like that's all he does, that's his whole channel is he reads. But he some of it is like I think he's reaching, but most of it, uh I think he's on point, and he points out a lot of like it it's pretty odd, pretty weird, you know. But point is that is one of the conspiracies or arguments from the old times, like because there were asylums, you know, in the late 1800s, early 1900s, and they were everywhere, right? All the way up until like the 70s or 80s. No, I think eighties or something. I'm not sure how to look that up, but but they were everywhere, you know. And some people think it was because you know, they they the society that found these structures. And like, oh, this is where you know this was built or whatever, and they're trying to cover up a lot of these old structures got burned crazily enough, like so many of them burnt down, and all this kind of stuff. Like they're just trying to purge the world of the old world, right? And then there was lots of people who knew the truth and they wouldn't conform, they wouldn't go along with it, so they put them in the sailing salem, saying, Oh, look, these people are crazy, they think this, blah, blah, blah. It's kind of an interesting idea. I'm not saying I believe it necessarily, but if you go and watch that guy's channel, My Lunch Break, he does make a lot of points. Now, I haven't watched it in a while just because I was trying to, you know, like I said, I'm trying to pull away from social media and and just pull more into life, you know, my life, and just do things and you know, so I'll watch his stuff occasionally. I was watching it pretty religiously for a little while, but it's if anything, it's entertaining, you know. So give it a give it a shot. Whether you believe it or not, it's still pretty, you know. I'm sure this his channel is gonna inspire some kind of film, like the Da Vinci Code kind of film or something, you know. What else? I think that's kind of it, man. I just wanted to. I didn't really want to do a podcast, but I just, you know, now

What I Got Wrong And Closing

SPEAKER_02 23:44

that more information came out and pretty much what I a lot, most of what I said is looking to be wrong, so I just wanted to put that out there. Um but yeah, that's it. So appreciate your time. Thanks for hanging out, and I'll see you guys next time. God bless. All right, bye.