Biofilm-Kur & Darm-Reset mit Jana Baltscheit von Lykaia | #235

Wie kann ein Biofilm-Reset dein Energielevel, deine mentale Klarheit und deine Verdauung revolutionieren? In dieser Episode spreche ich erneut mit Jana Baltscheit – Gründerin von Lykaia – über eines ihrer Herzensthemen: den Darm. Der Darm ist mit einem Film ausgekleidet, der eigentlich wertvoll und gut ist - aber eventuell von einem Reset profitiert. Jana erklärt, warum ein gesunder Biofilm nicht nur die Verdauung verbessert, sondern auch unser Immunsystem, unsere Emotionen und sogar unsere geistige Klarheit beeinflusst. Ich hab die Biofilm-Kur zweimal gemacht und eine klärende Wirkung auf mein gesamtes System gespürt.

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• Was ein Biofilm wirklich ist – und warum er so zentral für deine Gesundheit ist
• Wie ein Darmkur wirkt und was dabei wirklich im Körper passiert
• Praktische Tipps zur Regeneration deiner Darmflora nach der Kur

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Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (00:00.996)
One the main reasons for our health is the gut health. For many reasons. The gut not only our digestion, but also mood, our general energy level, all areas of our lives. I've been talking about gut health quite Meaning probiotics, ferments, etc. Today I second time Jana Balczek. Maybe you Jana from a previous episode about zinc proteins, A2.

Kasein about the whole topic and there at the episode that I also link in the show notes we have already talked the health of bit, but today we deeper and we light up the topic again. from a completely different perspective and from the perspective of the biofilm totally fascinating topic with which I last six months I have also few cures to deal with the biofilm and I really to learn more what the biofilm is what it with the health of

and how we can a biofilm cure to ourselves, let's say, plagiaristically, completely. So first all, welcome Jana. You are the founder of Lykaya. But you yourself have a story about how you your company, to the things you do. Please yourself briefly and invite us to your story, also on subject of the

Jana (01:23.95)
Hi Tim, first thank you for having me I'm very and especially that we about one of my favorite topics today, the gut. After I am often called goat protein woman or mushroom woman, I am that we another topic into focus today. How did I get to this? In 2018-19 I did bodybuilding competitions and of course I more attention to nutrition, my protein content in the diet and at that time also intolerable conditions and autoimmune diseases.

and always had with topic of and bowel problems, and then I found out that this because of my diet, because I didn't have enough to back So I looked for alternatives, for example cow milk and cow milk products. But I back was goat protein or goat milk products. And that's the first product I developed back was goat protein.

protein powder from goat's and that's how my company started. I Lycaia and later on products with vital pills and now especially products for the gut.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (02:37.892)
I'm because you said you were reduced goat protein woman or a mushroom woman. But it should be that it out of necessity, because the gut made you're here too. The gut woman would be a new label. You're here as a yana, course. But the common denominator is the gut. And here in this evening, my personal story I lot of topics with me.

I also Lykaia because I bad humic protein dealer, because I a bad guy and I'm grateful for alternatives and I on my own path of to heal and it lot and still my gut is bit sensitive. So definitely a huge game changer. Maybe we'll go into the subject of biofilm but if people think

I don't have any problems Because I notice that don't understand what the problem is. But how does someone notice that he or she has gut problems?

Jana (03:41.966)
Well, symptoms include digestive problems, as irregular stool, constipation, diarrhea, bloating, or bloating Of course, the belly is not as flat as in morning, because you food with you. But extremely bloated belly, I time during my competition, is very, very strong. Sometimes it's painful, is just not normal.

So that's something you could But course you lose So if you and after meals, can often also to the gut. That there is of imbalance, I would say these the main symptoms.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (04:29.54)
What I in recent years, also with clients, is surprisingly how the emotions then follow. So you can observe when you feel uncomfortable in the gut, is often also mentally and emotionally lot of tumultus finally there. And that's really cool to notice how much better the mood and how much clearer the mind is when the gut is And that should also a huge motivation, because you simply in mental and emotional health.

Jana (04:58.542)
I confirm that. I at the beginning that I a short-term antibiotic. I never antibiotics, but I my Mallorca during the winter was Only eye drops didn't help, which is I decided to the antibiotic, which I I how flat my is. Of course, my digestion is not that good That's another

I have very little energy and I'm really tired of and then I how much it all comes I notice how well my gut works and I'm looking forward to

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (05:45.476)
There are many basics to digestion. I a blog article for I'll link It's my website. Thinkflow Grow. There are the first basics. The starting point is biofilm. What is biofilm? Is it bad? Is it good? What could be

Jana (06:08.142)
can be but basically a biofilm is made for us to be A biofilm consists of microorganisms, like bacteria, fungi, viruses, attach to the intestinal mucosa and form a matrix with proteins and polysaccharides. This matrix can first dock the bacteria to the intestinal mucosa, which they through certain structural forms.

And when they have been dogged, they colonize, how do multiply, build a matrix that can really become more which sometimes also channels over which nutrients are exchanged, sometimes also waste materials, and which basically serves a protective layer for That not everything we take from the nutrition can through the gut, body, that it to go through this protective layer

I'm kind of... you know.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (07:07.328)
I would like ask for my understanding, is the intestinal mucosa the same as in the biofilm, or is the biofilm on the intestinal mucosa?

Jana (07:15.79)
The biofilm is on the intestinal mucosa. So it's not the same. The intestinal mucosa is our body, basically. It's the surface, it's like the skin, almost only in the intestine. And the biofilm is docking. But we need So that's the settlement of our intestine. Without it, can't the food.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (07:24.196)
Mmm.

Jana (07:58.99)
Mm-hmm.

As far know, leaky gut is to that the intestinal mucosa, i.e. our intestinal damaged, hollow and permeable. And of course different factors that ensure that this is Among other a biofilm that may not be so positive for the intestine. That was also a question is it good or is it bad? can be Basically, we a biofilm with

good intestinal bacteria that help us the food, that the vitamins out, which are for our digestion. But can also be that biofilm into the negative for us. And this can, for example, from chronic diseases, increased mold formation, which then rather the negative bacteria, i.e. pathogenic bacteria, or even antibiotics.

Antibiotika often the gut and then survive especially resistant bacteria or resistant microorganisms that may not always so cheap And by malnutrition, example, sugar, lot of fat, a lot of alcohol, can also be that an imbalance is in these microorganisms. And then may be that biofilm may not so cheap and produces toxins or the waste materials wrong.

and in these channels, in these gangs, everything doesn't work out as we want to.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (09:26.372)
Okay, a thought that came to said that antibiotics would be a good biofilm cure to get of But you say that, nevertheless, resistors can form and then resistant bacteria are and the same imbalance is further promoted. And this vein also the question, when we about the microbiome in the intestine, is the microbiome the biofilm? Is that the same?

Jana (09:33.838)
you

Jana (09:51.054)
Yes, would say yes. I would have to check for if there are any differences. But would say that biofilm, in my is basically everything. The microorganisms with the slime, the proteins and the polysaccharides, they formed, what is on top. And that is especially small. You can't think that you see it. That was an interesting question from a doctor. I have a good friend who is a doctor and she said to me,

You probably these pictures, if you're interested in removing the female genitals. These very wild pictures that you can find, where you can what out of the female genitals. And said to me, yes, but if you go to the female genitals, then is nothing on the female genitals, then you can't anything. And then I said, yes, that's right, first you go to a female genital and then you a chemical agent that just out all stuff that's on the surface.

And then only macroscopic area is i.e. superficial area. That means you biofilm, the microorganisms. They are still the intestinal tract. Only what I collect this mucus, this slime, is then just down. Exactly, that's the difference. What was your initial question

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (11:07.876)
Hmm.

Yes, question was actually explained if the microbiome biofilm is basically the same and to an idea you say so in itself a very very thin layer which is super important and where is this biofilm so we have thin gut stomach, gut, we have the biofilm

Jana (11:29.39)
As far as know, it's everywhere. We have different bacteria in different areas.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (12:02.436)
First, the old one out and then, yes, new, new, new, new, new, new, new, new, new, new, new, new, new, new, new, new,

Jana (12:20.43)
So important to that if you never had any problems with and never had problems with then I don't sense to taking biopharm. Because then your body seems to in balance, there are no problems. But if you actually to Licky Gut, to digestive problems, to chronic bowel disease, then I think sense to stop taking and gut. So that's just a side note.

How do you the biofilm out? Antibiotics and gut flushing I not recommend, because it is really chemical. It is a chemical substance that you get to empty the gut completely. It usually not so effective. As I the resistant bacteria that you do want to It is also plant-based. It is really purely mechanical. You get through so-called sources.

you can imagine like floa seeds, chia seeds, that really swell, ballasts in the gut. And this cure, which we both did, there are different methods, but we a very similar one, it lasts for 3 to 6 days. And you a shake of these soluble ballasts and form a ballast layer that swelled in the gut. So it's really like a glibber.

But the advantage is that it little deeper and to the intestinal mucosa and pulls out all the things that are the lower layers. And that really mechanically, so really just plants that swell that the intestinal mucosa a bit and thus completely clean You can imagine as a pot where something is baked and you put water in maybe a little more source material and leave it standing, then you it much easier.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (14:17.412)
I I a brush in of me. I poke something, then it up, then I a brush that of through.

Jana (14:25.07)
Yes, exactly. But you more like a glimmer. Because the intestine is all so moist and glistening. And that just cleanses intestine mechanically.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (14:37.796)
What plants are they?

Jana (14:41.966)
A very popular ingredient for fermented palm oil. It consists of many soluble components and it also an antioxidant effect on the gut. It is very often. Of if you to something yourself with juicing, i.e. a juice, a floa, a shea, if you through for you could the same effect.

But with the combination we have for the gut treatment, it is bit faster. That's we it the gut express treatment, because you only three to six days One ingredient is the Fermi-TT oil palm fiber, then okra powder and some other plant-based ballasts, which have particularly good source properties, but are very gut-friendly and have antioxidant effect on the gut.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (15:37.083)
I made this Darmkohr with good experience. Nevertheless, I have lot of chia pudding in I actually it a But in principle, it to a very good idea, which has a similar effect if I it for longer time.

Jana (15:53.518)
Yeah, indeed. I also like chia pudding and I always the feeling that it's my digestion.

Jana (16:01.262)
It's about the amounts of If you one chia pudding, it's a bit what have in morning and then add lot more. And this pear cure, you it yourself, these several shakes a day, with a liquid so that it can build Of course, not a comparable effect.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (16:23.332)
This Ocrachotin powder, does it also the source function or what is the background?

Jana (16:28.846)
Yes, a source function and above all many ballast substances, many solvents.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (16:32.803)
Hmm.

Jana (17:02.286)
Mm.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (17:04.772)
I'm between people, what are the raw materials I'm cutting and what the biofilm. I'm always little careful. There's always a little critic who asks more. I wasn't sure if it was a biofilm or the raw materials I'm cutting How are your experiences? After how many days did you something?

Jana (17:14.324)
Mhm, sehr guter Punkt Herr.

Jana (17:26.958)
Very good point you just mentioned. And you might have to say that the pictures are nothing for weak nerves. But that is not to be You build this slime, which is separated you it up over several days. Many people think, oh my god, now I so much intestinal skin, so much microbiome, mucous membranes here. Everything separated. I feel like my half-derm is back out. That is not the

You build up the mucous, the slime, by using these ballasts, which then also source. And can also be that people who are not used to feel first one to two days of this breast care completely inflamed. Because that also lot water in the gut. And me it went incredibly fast. So experience, some even three to four days.

Until something happens, it on your digestion and how good you I think I on first day. I the three-day treatment. But for some it takes until fourth fifth day. everything comes And it's really... I have say, is bit addictive. It's just stool movement. It's something that from deeper layers, that's not necessarily healthy.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (18:52.964)
It's an point that you address or that we generally address them. I'm always fascinated by how stool passage is something that we all our lives and then somehow is tabulated and people don't even their stool passage. What the smell and what the is. These are simple health markers. How does a stool passage and how it shaped? Yes, that's very, very exciting. everyone should it bit, reflect on it, just look, okay, how does it how does it look, and then reflect on how my lifestyle was. What did eat?

Jana (19:04.92)
Mm.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (19:21.7)
And then can so much and my opinion we save so many doctors and tests and so on, we to the signals of our body, what it to look I don't that in the context of gut cure, I mean in context of a normal life.

Jana (19:32.792)
Yeah, absolutely.

Jana (19:38.894)
Absolutely. I have to say that because you said that some experience with I within a year, because I was totally fascinated and excited And I have say, first time it really very, very intense. So a very strong result and also very unpleasant smell, I really noticed, okay, that was apparently really not that healthy. What I had over the years. And the second time, I would say it was half a year later, it wasn't that It was maybe a little bit but not very strong

Apparently, wasn't much that It was apparently the first time.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (20:19.812)
I did the first time I a phase of three months that, where I a of different things, fasted lot, lot of movements, detoxed because our sauna was and so on. And then I didn't any things that smelled and so on and so on, where I thought, okay, it quite well.

Jana (20:27.566)
Hmm.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (20:42.852)
Another point from the beginning, if you any problems, you shouldn't do I'm but sometimes I we don't know what we don't know. That's my perspective. Sometimes I things to see. Sometimes I don't what I don't know. Sometimes we don't know how much energy we could have, how well we could feel. And there's this little curious adventurer, discoverer, who just tries out. Sometimes he realizes, he didn't a difference. And sometimes, wow, okay, he a difference. I think that can always be

Jana (20:50.06)
Yeah.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (21:11.94)
I think that's... I'm getting into this biohacking bubble, that's also a valid motive. Not this motive, I have to improve but find out the curiosity. That's something that motivates when I some new things. What happens?

Jana (21:28.749)
I'm definitely right. And above all, you don't always have say that your gut is 100 % healthy For example, I always of my friend who very normal, who has processed meat products or wheat. Just because you any symptoms doesn't mean that your gut is completely healthy.

It can much later or can still because every body has different indicators. For example, me is extremely bad the intestines if I good. I feel it as the thing about the intestines. other people may have headaches or something else. And only if you don't in intestines, it that everything is great. That's true.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (22:21.22)
Everyone has an Achilles heel. We notice the mood, our energy, depending on our gut, but also vice versa. I that when I'm to many topics, I get it hits my gut. My gut often has an Achilles heel. Everyone has their own topics that are first to report when you're under more stress. My experience is when we physical factors of the gut.

then we have more capacity and the other stressors of life. I say the things that are really important to the gut is interesting, but that's not really important. It's about how we can more energy for the things that are really important

Jana (23:06.446)
Absolutely, yes. That's also what me to this. And of course, I also problems which made me deep and intensively in this whole matter.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (23:20.676)
So you said, with the cure we both did, you three shakes a day, three liver shakes as fast as possible, because the sources run very fast and don't too but I'm always relatively serious about Did you eat anything during this Or how does it during the two to four days?

Jana (23:25.646)
Mm-hmm.

Jana (23:29.112)
Yeah.

Jana (23:38.702)
At first I was very consistent, I these shakes, but it was okay to them with some fruit juice or vegetable juice. I think I tried different things and what I liked most and also a little energy, because I'm not very good at fasting. quickly that I little energy, I'm also relatively slim in front of and that's I my shakes with carrot juice.

that I still some carbohydrates and energy. That actually pretty good. Then, I think on day two, when the process was already over I added little bone broth or vegetable broth. And then slowly started with soups. And of course to build And that's a very, very important point, when the biofilm is out, then to up the gut again.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (24:35.127)
I that last time I right away, I mean a lot, and I actually got total blister because I felt like my microbiome was no longer there and the digestion was totally bad. Then I realized, oh, if Tabula Rasa made, then can slowly with the idea that ...

Jana (24:42.84)
Mm.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (24:59.204)
less support from the body. I also used digestive enzymes to support to down build-up. So are the keys to building up?

Jana (25:11.246)
Exactly, so not surprising that this happened because your gut was relatively empty. And whenever we food with the body has to the bacteria and enzymes to replace in to enough of So if your gut is completely empty, makes sense that we build what we want to So if we had pathogenic bacteria before or something we didn't want, it makes sense to the so-called good bacteria.

And this can be done through probiotics. can from food, from fermented products, from sauerkraut, from kimchi. But it's often not enough and if you yourself, it's hard to And sometimes it's unclear which bacteria are in the sauerkraut, which I in the organic store. That's I'm a fan of adding supplements, probiotics, really broad-band probiotics, which I change and in different ones.

that the body gets different bacteria, especially lactobacillus, and then can up the right flora, the right microbiome. Because every microbiome is totally different. And the body has to decide for what it needs. And that's I'm a fan of simply these good bacteria. And that in combination with ballasts from plants, are called prebiotics.

that the probiotics, the bacteria, so that they can stay and then form their matrix again. Of course, would not start eating extremely large amounts or currywurst, fries and ready-made products, because otherwise you quickly have the bacteria that you do want. Of course, everything is reversible and does not alive, that is clear, but if you a certain intention behind and good to it sense.

to slowly and with unprocessed, fresh food in combination with probiotics.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (27:13.572)
I the idea to start again with a glass kimchi, which is a stupid idea. It's meant well with the probiotics, but if it's too much, a lot of raw food can to an insane bleeding. So my tip is to probiotics. It can a fork kimchi, a fork sauerkraut, and slowly increase.

Jana (27:37.262)
Exactly, that's enough. I'm not a fan of kombucha or water kefir or all these drinks. In amounts, yes, but not in quantities. They're rich in probiotics. If you it organic store or elsewhere, it's never clear which bacteria are in If you a of it, you of one kind of Then you imbalance again.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (28:07.044)
What would a day of look like

Jana (28:11.374)
Good question, I'm not that dogmatic about

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (28:18.788)
You said diversity is important. where it's said that dogmatic is also wrong in that sense.

Jana (28:21.07)
Genau, allgemein, ja.

Right, diversity in nutrition, plant-based carbohydrates, which a lot of fruits and vegetables. Maybe at the beginning of body also little by simply toasting the apple or slightly toasting so that it easier to digest. That's how I started. I think I started with a rinsed apple, with oat flakes, porridge, chia seeds, nut milk, all these things. Especially plant-based.

I'm not completely vegan, I mostly plant-based and occasionally fish and meat. But I in the first 1-2 days, because it actually longer in the intestine. It takes longer until it digested and I think I the first 1-2 days.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (29:11.94)
It's interesting because it's a big jungle. with dogma, find all these extremes because of carnivorous nutrition, which good for digestion and can be in a certain context. But it's just so important that we find out what works for us and the type. What kind type Some have a super strong digestive fire. They can everything and then there are more tender people who have digestive problems. They can differently.

And danger is always that we lose ourselves in heads, in our dogma and don't pay attention to what kind of person But then it's also like our dynamics. In summer it can completely different than in winter, what we need and what we can Personally, when I have where lot of stress then I eat as digestible as possible, sometimes with more smoothies, because I don't have the energy for a digestion. And then there are phases when I'm of full of juice, then it doesn't matter what I eat. I can just everything

burn away can say so and that is either of these individualities at the point on the body on the body finally hear and that's I such a retreat or resets so great like this biofilm cure or I'm also a huge fan of fasting yes you said fasting is not everyone the thing of the tolerance energy but the point is that you such a reset quasi

and then the signals of the body can much better and more sensitivity is developed for the body and the body's are heard. Again again see that when we eat we deaf for our body. And for me there a huge value of fasting or a cure where you eat nothing else to turn the sounds around, to turn the body's as I like to say.

...to

Jana (31:06.862)
Yes, absolutely. It's very similar I also it when I'm extremely stressed. I also in the diet, because my gut is always a And then is also the connection between the brain and the gut, the vagus nerve. And if you're stressed it to the gut. And that's I always to relieve myself. And women, the psyllux also in. And before the period, it's always bit more with digestion.

and during that period I to cooked food that is little warm and doesn't require anything else in Definitely. It's little bit cleansing, like fasting, I would say, or like meditation. Just what has become self-evident and to hear what the signals of body Definitely.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (32:04.068)
Yeah, and that's also, I my thoughts in and that's really just a head. Sometimes I these when we these things, then we a lot of things. So because it's so many, the whole microbiome is so many voices in head, there parasites, bacteria in I always have impression that I will get a lot of mental and emotional stress. So feeling is my experience, I'm afterwards. I'm clearer in my understanding. Why do I always have exact metaphor somehow? No idea, but my experience is

Every time I am clearer when I my digestion again.

Jana (32:39.116)
Absolutely, yes. I can confirm that.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (32:43.923)
You said in that were known as the mushroom woman and you me in conversation that you with in to the female story. What kind mushrooms, in sense of vital mushrooms, are helpful and why?

Jana (32:47.694)
you

Jana (32:59.982)
Vital pills are always solid part of my everyday life, I would say. Since I started the company in because these vital pills helped to my unbearable condition. These are pills that are part of my everyday life and I them

I some phytonutrients to support I used Chaga for Chaga contains a lot of bitter glycans and lot of antioxidants, which are very good for the gut and can support the gut mold. It can with an imbalance in microbiome. There are also some studies on but with mice. But it is to humans.

and Lionsman. I Lionsman Filz, which is supportive for the female's or for the female in general.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (34:04.708)
How do you the mushrooms? Do you tea or what?

Jana (34:09.23)
Extracts. at Lykaya we only extracts. I know you do that with video, I have one lying around. This is a shaker mushroom that I'm up It looks like a concoction of the birch. It's to a lot of plant substances, so-called lignin. We can't digest They wouldn't be the best ballasts for our gut. They would be preventable. That's it sense to filter out and just...

to extract so we strength of the nutrients and that we can use We Lucan only dry extracts because liquid extracts have the disadvantage that they often have to with glycerin or alcohol to make That's I'm a fan of dry extracts. I the chaga in the as a powder extract. I limesman in the coffee, otherwise I the porridge.

...

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (35:10.596)
Would you the vitals during the intestinal resets or after

Jana (35:15.758)
I've before, so can argue about how much of will But for me it's a solid part and think that Chaga is also calming the ladies and anti-inflammatory and that meantime it's not wrong, no matter how much it will remain.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (35:36.164)
Now the question arises, what about supplements? What is your practice? Apart from that this is topic that can be researched and nobody really knows it's a huge thing. It's funny in my blast, how you always argue about If you binders, which vitamins and minerals are by binders? You can thousand different things, nobody seems to know But what your experience and your practice? Supplements while the gut is reset or not?

Jana (35:56.558)
Mm-hmm.

Jana (36:02.542)
I've always wondered about with the binders and I still haven't a clear answer. I example spirulina and chlorella and I always the feeling that I bit from my supplements so they don't get I find so many different opinions about on the internet and no clear answer. That's I personally just it like I drink my spirulina, chlorella, sometimes before. I like as powder with coconut water. Tastes good.

I supplements should always be to your current blood type. I go once or twice a year and then really my blood values check. I had a time of very strong iron deficiency, so I to eat lot and don't eat lot of meat, which of course makes happen that you have too little iron

So I always that check and then I my supplements to the blood type and supplement what I need. Except for a few basics that I always with me, like vitamin D, I always new goody vital pills with me, I also regularly, exactly, but I actually and that is my opinion the best thing you can do, because every body is individual. Some people have due to their diet and excess, some a deficiency and

The most important is to make of

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (37:31.716)
Thank much. You mentioned Chlorella, Spirulina, and now you deep into it, but do you Binder

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (37:53.752)
I'm gone

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (37:58.692)
Exactly, I'm back,

Jana (38:00.706)
So, here's it again.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (38:02.092)
Now again there was some reason the internet was gone. Exactly, I'll again. Yes, you briefly spoken chlorella spirulina Do you binding every What is your practice?

Jana (38:04.824)
Yeah. Komisch.

Jana (38:13.486)
Yes, currently I have the feeling that I am I have also various DNA tests and it out that I am a pretty bad detoxifier My body is not necessarily the detox expert from nature and that's I to support I do the feeling that I take natural binders because I am definitely more clear.

I have a very puffy so that my digestion is little better. I feel good about and I like Spirulina has a relatively high protein content. I like spirulina with coconut water as protein shake, as a green at noon.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (39:05.604)
Interesting. Which pictures do take and when?

Jana (39:13.246)
I used zeolite but I didn't as strong as thought. can also try I also tried but it quickly causes clogging. That's I with the own We are a natural product. I recently a survey at Lycaea to hear what I would like to

Then a good friend and a Lykai customer to me, a survey. And then I in newsletter what people wanted. And among other things, I the plan to a green binder product with algae and also a natural collagen, also with algae and tremella. These are the next products we are

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (40:01.29)
is the

Jana (40:03.918)
No, that's Turkey Tail. Tremella is also a fungus that looks like a liver sponge and it basically provides nutrients that the body with collagen synthesis.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (40:19.972)
I would the product. I'm huge fan of dindas and detox measures because they huge effects. I the topic a bit complicated because it's a bit exaggerated and pushed into a certain corner. It's polarized politically and so on. Finally, you on your body feedback. I personally take dindas I CO-Bend every morning.

So after waking up, lots water with CO-Bend and I two hours later and the first minerals only two hours later to me and that helps me totally. So I notice much more mental clarity. Otherwise I chlorella and spirulina mix all the things together. I of very, grateful if there a practical all-in-one solution. Exactly, and as I said, I notice much more mental clarity. That helps me totally and I think everyone should try it And you say, but very important is that

Also, how does the digestion So if I too much active carbon, could be that I a constipation, which would not be good for detoxification because then I a longer delay in the gut and then everyone can find their solution. Where I personally very good experience is that I magnesium every On the one hand, a magnesium mirror, on the other hand, also because magnesium also the gut passage.

And I can clearly feel, when I a tiny bit, how feel Because I a better sitting position, faster bowel movement and feel clearer in head. And then think everyone can find own magnesium dose. That helps me a lot Especially in evening magnesium, in morning the CO band. That's just my routine.

Jana (42:06.51)
What else is the subject, I also my own salt soil. We have a water filter at the poison is not suitable to from the pipe. I don't know if you've a video about Water quality.

Jana (42:29.358)
I don't recommend drinking water and we have a personal water filter The thing is, everything is filtered That means the water that is then also pretty empty. So there is relatively little in And if I this empty water now, then I out nutrients from my body. That's I to this water again with salt. And I do my

The salt is a stone salt, you know from the salt lamps that old people often at

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (43:00.836)
We have over 300 lamps standing.

Jana (43:24.477)
I take rock salt and put in the water from the water filter and it dissolves completely until the water is completely saturated with salt. I always a teaspoon of to and I also the feeling that it cleanses detoxifies my body and the time provides with electrolytes.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (43:49.732)
Great, so thanks for the tip, because I've it for a while now with the salt zone, but again. Of course, super easy and pricey. You can also mineralization things and so on, but doing this salt zone yourself is of super, super, super easy. if the digestion is very slow, can also helpful to overdose and the finally so salt water is also great. I don't want to say to remove it, but just to the peristaltic.

Jana (44:18.926)
Absolutely, and it's super easy. All you have to is add a carafé of and salt. And then it's super long-lasting. Because salt salt is conserved by the high salt content. And I also it to cook, for of vegetable broth or salt. I save that and prefer salt salt. That's exactly what I thought of the topic of detoxification.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (44:44.6)
Mega

about what we talked about, other podcasts, the older episodes with Jana, I them all in this blog article. And also a guide to the subject of biofilm.

Jana (45:25.166)
Yeah, that's pretty good. We're the product with a video guide, because you already know how to the drum, how to fast while drinking the shakes. So I think good to with a short guide.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (45:42.379)
What interests me because I am totally interested in other experiments and routines that you have, that other people have, do you have any other routine or hacks, what you in course of a year for your intestinal health or for your poisoning?

Jana (45:59.886)
Let me through my day. What I definitely do in is to after getting This is a practice from Ayurveda. Sometimes arguing how well it works. I think it's great. I always think that it the mouth extremely well and it feels like the microbiome, so we have a microbiome little more and in the same weight.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (46:03.672)
you

Jana (46:25.71)
It works so well that you a teaspoon of coconut oil in your mouth and rinse through I this while I my face with a stone. Then I spit into the trash can. Coconut oil, please. I classic rose quartz rollers. Or from Yade. I always it nice ritual in morning.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (46:40.164)
What kind stone that? What kind stone

Jana (46:54.958)
to the face look bit more after the night. I'm the lymph nodes here on the sides and below to stimulate the lymph flow, the fluid flow. It also the detoxing This is my morning ritual. And most coconut oil in the trash can. And then your mouth with water.

Then I greens, Vital Pilsen. I a coffee or a coffee Depending on how my energy level is, how I feel like I definitely take Vital Pilsen in morning. My supplements. And what else I've my sports routine a bit. I've been afternoon sports And always lot and intensively in

After five years I thought I wanted to change it. Now the sport first. The body first. Since then I do my sport Either yoga, in Mallorca I like to walk in morning on the promenade. Or once or twice a week I to gym, depending on how I feel like I really to my body. Especially with a cycle.

If you don't do maybe the period, do more gentle things and yoga and not necessarily into the just because it's plan. Exactly, those are the things I pay I think those are the main points. Then course sleep hygiene. I try to at a certain time in not to work anymore. Sometimes well, sometimes it

But I always my stretching That's something I've given up because I need to stretch myself out in I usually to relaxing music. I often to fantasy music while stretching. I really like the music from The Witcher or Skyrim to relax. Then I'm usually completely calm, relaxed and can sleep

Jana (49:05.399)
know.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (49:06.916)
Yeah, thank you. Thank you for that. It nice if someone thought, wow, so much relaxation you're it's not that good, you're an entrepreneur, have a company, you have a lot of stress, there's a lot behind it. And always very fascinating that someone who is a high achiever does a lot of things that balance with their self-care to exactly this energy. Because it's always the one thing, whether I do it not, I'll now.

We don't have an influencer who only about his own health or you have for which he burns. It's very valuable what I'm saying right sounds bit crazy. But maybe the listeners know what I mean. So in to our thing, need this routine that brings closer to with energy, so that we don't burn

Jana (49:56.526)
Absolutely, and have to say, I would this into my everyday life The first 1-2 years after the foundation, it was not like that And I many years, many months and also looked really broken. So if you look I looked really tired. Too much cortisol, much work, too much internal stress, especially at the beginning, of everything works, whether everything fits with the product output, whether you enough customers.

or if the business will fail. Those all worries I in beginning, which motivated me as much as possible. And now, after five years, at a point where I say, okay, I've a basis for it works well. I can more of Looking back, would say I should that in the beginning, because my productivity and my physical well-being is...

and I would have well in the first years. But somewhere you a price for think, to something like that. Respect to those who always everything under control. That didn't for me the but over the last few I actually to integrate

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (51:13.879)
Through reflection we somehow and I personally. So it's the same and learning through pain is the life practice a valid mechanism. You could say you have it all the screen. I think in the experience of all us we learn through pain. Exactly through this mechanism that you the balance out of balance and there again learns in my own independence also as an entrepreneur, as father and so on and so on.

I in last years that it's not a sprint. There are sprints, but it's a marathon. That's why we should to ourselves. It's okay to the balance. If we reflect on we'll our balance again. But think it's often. It's not just about entrepreneurship. It's our life. Entrepreneurship. Our life is entrepreneurship. No matter what our thing is. Often we think, this is a sprint. This state, this short stress, it only for short time. It short time. It only for short time.

And that's the illusion, that this sprint doesn't right. And we're to accept That someone to other and that we're to pay attention to

Jana (52:14.913)
Mm.

Jana (52:19.246)
Yes, that was also the misconception I had for many years, just this quickly, this product quickly, come on, the listings and no, it never stops. Or you want it to stop here, because you a certain ambition when you something that, that it further, that it on. And that's it's more the question how do I deal it, how do I a routine that I feel good, that I the things that are important to but still have energy and all the work.

or maybe I a part of the work but a certain basis.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (52:51.204)
It's crazy how much you adapt. Sometimes you other people than mirrors who tell wow, that's pretty crazy what's become normal Because you get to things, And that's one thing, pose of adaptation. Another thing, often what you're used to. How much work and how much stress has become completely normal. And that's why sometimes other helpful people say, pretty huge. That's my experience.

Jana (52:59.736)
Mm.

Jana (53:18.37)
Yeah, absolutely.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (53:21.704)
Yeah, I can get to invite you to with the subject of and also this whole biofilm story whether it out of curiosity or out own suffering pressure, in any case a super super exciting experiment Yes and For luca I like so actually I just thought about our house is yes your goat proteins high in course actually honestly he doesn't that about me

Jana (53:36.174)
Mm.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (53:49.22)
because I casein. That's the bitter truth. I casein, no matter which one. But my Lisbeth is a huge fan. She loves the goat protein. And with Dukaya, everything you have, also the biofilm cure and so on, we have a code. So the podcast listeners can 10 % with the code ThinkFlowGlo 10. That was mentioned here on the and you can in the show notes. Good, but then back to you. What's on mind now? What would you listen to?

Jana (53:52.032)
Okay, yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (54:18.744)
game.

Jana (54:21.582)
Well, what we talked is that you create a basis for healthy routine, and maybe you patience with I took five years to to the point where I say, okay, I a basis for myself, I'm satisfied and I'm not always super stressed and short of burnout and still can't off my things. But maybe have patience until you that point.

And maybe even you try like integrating vitamin C into your everyday or oil or face massage or whatever, you start to step by step and only one thing. You go that and think, okay, it good or does it not good for the body, do I to And don't develop the 17-part morning routine for yourself, which you don't stop and unrealistic, but just with yourself.

And about the gut, a of plant-based nutrients, lot of probiotics, maybe experiment with your own sauerkraut, your own kefir or tempeh, I them myself, because I travel right now, I them often now, but I used to them myself lot. Or sourdough bread, we a guide on our website. These are things that are incredibly good for and that are fun to yourself.

Exactly, would be my advice. So just experiment with probiotics and lot of plant-based ingredients.

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (55:56.58)
It's you said and I would like to take of the things. It makes a huge difference if I or if I something myself, build a relationship with the things. In fact, think that's the key. Sometimes we think that the food is the right but in reality it is much important that we really deal that we relationship with the food. Because I see when you talk about ...

how de-juice you with mushrooms. There such an intimate connection and I think that does a lot with our system. And that is a very big part of the The second impulse that is higher and higher is, I know that many people think, wow, so many things. Jana does so many things, Tim does so many things. It's like huge buffet and the paradox is that people then go, oh shit, I feel overwhelmed, I feel bad. And can the picture and say, okay, when we to the buffet ...

If we to buffet, we bad because there so much. Some people do that, but it would be insane. Life and everything is so rich in inspiration. And we go there and say, feel bad because life is so rich and full. And that's a perspective. Or I go and say, I take from the podcast, from the other things, one or two things as inspiration and try it out and enjoy this abundance of possibilities. And I emphasize that because I that so and so often.

how people get crazy because they afraid of missing and on and so forth. And rather these full of possibilities instead of feeling overwhelmed and then maybe not doing

Jana (57:34.606)
Yes, absolutely. I that as a good point. And you shouldn't forget until I've found things that for me. First of doesn't mean that I'll the next 10 years. That's unrealistic. It's just a momentary recording. And I've the wildest things. I've already my Bim Hof breathing here my head in the ice water or... So really wild things and then I really realized, okay, no, it's nothing for me. But that's okay That's a realization.

but rather to go there and say, okay, that's inspiration and I'll what I might

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (58:12.004)
Okay, then mindset of the adventurer, experimenting that would be an invitation from me. And yes, thank you very much for your time. Everything we talked about, I'll it in the show notes. That's on thinkfrogrogu.com, slash biofilm. And I you with the last word. What would like to our listeners?

Jana (58:34.382)
Just Vital Pizzer if you haven't tried it yet. Whatever. Just try

Tim Böttner | Think Flow Grow (58:37.271)
You

Thank you for Jana.

Jana (58:41.74)
Okay. Danke zum.