
The Stepping In It Podcast with Renee Schulte & Jason Haglund
The Stepping In It Podcast is a weekly discussion of the latest news and trends in behavioral health policy development and practice. Each episode features interviews with experts from across the field, including policymakers, clinicians, researchers, and advocates. The podcast provides listeners with practical tips and resources for improving the quality and access to behavioral health care.
The Stepping In It Podcast with Renee Schulte & Jason Haglund
108. The LandLogic Model: Bridging Gaps in Farmer Mental Health with Kaila Anderson
In this episode of Stepping In It, we sit down with Kaila Anderson, licensed social worker, professor, and creator of The LandLogic Model℠, a groundbreaking framework designed to meet farmers where they are in their mental health journey. Drawing from her family’s experience during the 1980s Farm Crisis and a decade of service in rural Kansas, Kaila shares how LandLogic uniquely leverages the agrarian imperative—faith, family, legacy, sensory experience, and connection to the land—to break down barriers between farmers and behavioral health professionals. We explore practical tools like Barbed Wire Thinking and the FARM Tool, new research on provider training, and how small but powerful shifts can transform the way rural communities approach mental health.
In this episode, you will be able to:
- Learn how Kayla Anderson’s Land Logic model supports farmer behavioral health.
- Hear how lived experience from the Farm Crisis shaped her research and passion.
- Explore the unique barriers farmers face in accessing mental health services.
- Discover how rural clinicians and communities can use practical interventions.
- Reflect on the cultural importance of farming traditions and identity in behavioral health.
The key moments in this episode are:
00:00:00 - Introduction to Episode 108 with Kayla Anderson and Land Logic
00:00:25 - Kayla Anderson’s background and passion for farmer mental health
00:00:42 - Whiny farmer intro: Jason’s farm auctions and collecting tools
00:02:00 - Challenges and stressors farmers face across generations
00:04:15 - Kayla shares her family’s 5th generation farm experience and the 1980s Farm Crisis
00:06:20 - Barriers to accessing behavioral health services in rural communities
00:09:05 - How Land Logic was developed to support farmer mental health
00:12:30 - Examples of interventions tailored to farmers’ needs
00:15:40 - Importance of cultural understanding in rural clinical practice
00:18:25 - Farmers’ reluctance to seek mental health help and stigma issues
00:21:10 - Kayla’s vision for improving behavioral health outcomes in farming communities
00:24:00 - Adjunct professor role and bridging academia with lived rural experience
00:26:30 - Closing thoughts and continuing the conversation on rural behavioral health
Links:
- https://www.ruralhealthinfo.org/topics/rural-health-disparities
- https://www.thelandlogicmodel.com/
- https://farmstress.us/land-logic-behavioral-health-training/
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Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/CT1DNTkjfMo