The Stepping In It Podcast with Renee Schulte & Jason Haglund
The Stepping In It Podcast is a weekly discussion of the latest news and trends in behavioral health policy development and practice. Each episode features interviews with experts from across the field, including policymakers, clinicians, researchers, and advocates. The podcast provides listeners with practical tips and resources for improving the quality and access to behavioral health care.
Episodes
138 episodes
134. Peer Support Defined: Understanding the Many Forms of Peer Support in Rural Communities
In this episode, the hosts kick off a new series exploring the role of peer support in behavioral health and rural communities. They unpack what “peer support” really means, the many different models that exist across North America, and how pee...
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133. The Workforce Within Series: Managing the Hard Stuff: Self-Care When Life Feels Heavy
In this episode, we’re digging into what it really takes to care for ourselves when life—and work—feel like too much and not enough all at once. From waiting on contracts to managing uncertainty, we get real about the emotional toll of the in-b...
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132. The Workforce Within Series: The Workforce Behind the Line: Crisis Teams, Stress, and Sustainability
Welcome back, and thanks for joining us—yep, it’s that time again: planting season, fixing everything for it just to break again… and that’s not just on the farm. In this episode, we’re digging into the escalating issue of workplace violence in...
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131. The Workforce Within Series: The Workforce Crisis: Peer Support, Burnout, and Innovation
In this episode, we continue our deep dive into the Illinois Rural Health Conference, held in Champaign, IL. Join us as we explore the latest trends and critical topics discussed at the conference, from how Millennials are shaping the future of...
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130. On the Ground Impact Series: Is “No Wrong Door” Even Possible in Rural Communities?
In the final installment of our On the Ground Impact Series—after traveling 3,500 miles across Iowa—we tackle one of the most talked about, yet least understood concepts in behavioral health: “No Wrong Door.” On paper, it promises seamless acce...
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129. On the Ground Impact Series: How Do You Change Systems Without the Pain?
Change is rarely comfortable—especially in complex systems like healthcare, policy, and large organizations—but that doesn’t mean it isn’t necessary. In this episode of the On the Ground Impact Series, we dig into the reality of system change: ...
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128. On the Ground Impact Series: Behind the Scenes of Care Collaboration
In this episode of the On the Ground Impact Series, we go behind the scenes of what care collaboration really means—and why it’s so often talked about but rarely done well. Moving beyond buzzwords, we unpack how true collaboration requires trus...
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127. On the Ground Impact Series: Naming the Barriers to Behavioral Health System Change
In this On the Ground Impact Series episode, the hosts move beyond the “big three” behavioral health challenges—funding, workforce, and crisis response—to name the deeper, often unspoken barriers that stall real system change. From policy decis...
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126. On the Ground Impact Series: What We’re Seeing, Hearing, and Learning Across the Midwest
This episode kicks off our On the Ground series, sharing real-world insights from building behavioral health systems across the Midwest. We name the common challenges showing up across states—workforce shortages, inconsistent mobile crisis resp...
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125. Coaching & Innovation in the Rural Midwest: Rethinking Mental Health Support
In this episode, we dive into what coaching and innovation can look like in the rural Midwest when traditional mental health systems fall short. Joined by Jessica, a longtime healthcare leader and nonprofit founder, we explore the realities of ...
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124. Live from Houston: Rethinking Behavioral Health Through Data, Economics, and Real-World Impact
In this episode, recorded live from Houston at the Bridge Think Tank, Renee and Jason dive into the complex intersection of economics, human behavior, and the real-world challenges facing behavioral health systems across the country. From the l...
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123. Goal Setting in the New Year: The Why, the Science, and the Strategy
As the new year approaches—and yes, in the middle of tax season—this episode takes a grounded, practical look at goal setting and why it truly matters. From the neuroscience behind writing goals down to the data showing how few people actually ...
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122. 2025 Year in Review: Oh What Fun It Has Been
In this energetic year-in-review episode, Renee and Jason look back on a whirlwind 2025 filled with travel, conferences, chaotic weather, unexpected wildlife encounters, and powerful moments with rural communities across the country. From Alask...
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121. On the Road: Conferences & State Shake-ups Pt 3 - Ep 96
This week, we’re stepping in it—live from Indiana! After a chaotic detour through CMA Fest (yes, we accidentally ran into Blake Shelton and Rascal Flatts on Broadway), we’re back with crop scouting updates and a deep dive into a powerful conver...
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120. On the Road: Conferences & State Shake-ups Pt 2 - Ep 95
We’re on the road in Flagstaff for the Arizona Rural Health Conference, diving into the unique challenges and opportunities facing rural healthcare in the Southwest. From a whiny farmer update about Arizona’s never-ending dry spell (and Iowa’s ...
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119. On the Road: Conferences & State Shake-ups Pt 1 - Ep 91
In this special on-the-ground episode, we’re coming to you live from Anchorage, Alaska at the National Association of Rural Mental Health Conference—moose sightings, state fair stories, and all. From the icy beauty of Chickaloon overlooking the...
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118. Breaking Silos & Building Solutions: Insights from the Louisiana Rural Health Conference
In this episode, we take you inside the Louisiana Rural Health Conference, where Renee and Jason delivered the morning keynote focused on the continuum of care and the persistent gaps between high-level inpatient treatment and traditional outpa...
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117. The Power of Gratitude: How Small Shifts Create Big Change
In this episode, Renee and Jason dive into the science and practice of gratitude—what it is, why it matters, and how it impacts resilience, mental health, and daily life. Through personal stories, practical strategies, and a look at how gratitu...
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116. Beyond Awareness: How NAMI’s Provider Program is Changing Behavioral Health
In this episode, hosts Renee Schulte and Jason Haglund sit down with Daryn Nelsen-Soza from NAMI National to explore how the NAMI Provider Program bridges understanding between mental health professionals and the people they serve. Together, th...
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115. Live from Wisconsin: Recovery Systems, Workforce Strain, and Rural Solutions
In this on-the-road episode, Renee and Jason broadcast live from the Wisconsin Mental Health and Substance Use Recovery Conference, reflecting on how community-driven solutions, workforce realities, and systemic challenges continue to shape beh...
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114. The Solutions are in the Systems: Behavioral Healthcare is Healthcare
In this episode of Stepping In It, Renee and Jason return to their annual collaboration with Lead DSM to explore one powerful truth: the solutions are in the systems. From the fields to the frontlines of healthcare, they examine how in...
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113. Scary – The Top 10 Scariest Issues Facing Behavioral Health in 2025
In this special “Scary” episode of Stepping In It, we dive into the top 10 most frightening challenges confronting behavioral health in 2025. From looming Medicaid cuts and crushing rural healthcare debt to the persistent stigma, workf...
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112. Vicarious Trauma: Understanding the Hidden Impact of Bearing Others’ Stories
In this episode of Stepping In It, we dive into the often-overlooked reality of vicarious trauma—the emotional residue left behind when professionals are repeatedly exposed to the pain, fear, and trauma of others. Sometimes called “secondary tr...
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111. Live from Missouri – Drones, Tech, and AI at the Rural Mental Health Conference
In this episode of Stepping In It, we go live from the Missouri Rural Mental Health Conference to explore how technology is reshaping rural healthcare. From drones buzzing the farm fields to AI transforming patient care, we unpack inno...
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110. Live from TORCH: Mental Health Funding, Medicaid Cuts, and Rural Healthcare Realities
In this special live episode from the Texas Organization of Rural and Community Hospitals (TORCH) Conference, we dive into breaking policy news and its impact on rural healthcare. Governor Abbott’s recent signing of HB 18 brings $5 billion towa...
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