The Stepping In It Podcast with Renee Schulte & Jason Haglund
The Stepping In It Podcast is a weekly discussion of the latest news and trends in behavioral health policy development and practice. Each episode features interviews with experts from across the field, including policymakers, clinicians, researchers, and advocates. The podcast provides listeners with practical tips and resources for improving the quality and access to behavioral health care.
The Stepping In It Podcast with Renee Schulte & Jason Haglund
130. On the Ground Impact Series: Is “No Wrong Door” Even Possible in Rural Communities?
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In the final installment of our On the Ground Impact Series—after traveling 3,500 miles across Iowa—we tackle one of the most talked about, yet least understood concepts in behavioral health: “No Wrong Door.” On paper, it promises seamless access, coordinated entry, and person-centered care. But on the ground in rural and underserved communities, the reality is far more complicated. From fragmented systems and workforce shortages to 30-page “resource guides” that don’t translate into real access, we explore whether a true no wrong door approach is achievable—and what would actually have to change to make it real.
In this episode, you will be able to:
- Discover what the “No Wrong Door” concept is designed to accomplish in behavioral health systems.
- Understand why rural communities struggle to implement coordinated, person-centered access points.
- Learn how long-term services and supports (LTSS) have advanced nationally—while mental health and substance use systems lag behind.
- Explore what a true “no refusal” crisis response model looks like and whether it could work in rural settings.
The key moments in this episode are:
00:00:09 - Introduction & Final Installment of the On the Ground Series
00:02:10 - 3,500 Miles Across Iowa: What We’re Seeing on the Ground
00:05:42 - What “No Wrong Door” Is Supposed to Mean
00:09:18 - The Gap Between Policy Language and Rural Reality
00:13:07 - Care Collaboration & the Myth of System Alignment
00:16:55 - LTSS Investment vs. Mental Health & SUD Gaps
00:20:44 - Why Resource Guides Aren’t the Same as Access
00:23:30 - Crisis Response Models & the “No Refusal” Standard
00:27:12 - Is System Change Possible Without Pain?
00:30:05 - What It Would Take to Make No Wrong Door Real in Rural America
Links:
- https://www.advancingstates.org/sites/default/files/FINAL%20-%20NWD%20Systems%20-%20Guide%20for%20Community%20Organizations%2011-04-2022.pdf
- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/books/NBK571016/
- https://connectionshs.com/
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