The Stepping In It Podcast with Renee Schulte & Jason Haglund
The Stepping In It Podcast is a weekly discussion of the latest news and trends in behavioral health policy development and practice. Each episode features interviews with experts from across the field, including policymakers, clinicians, researchers, and advocates. The podcast provides listeners with practical tips and resources for improving the quality and access to behavioral health care.
The Stepping In It Podcast with Renee Schulte & Jason Haglund
140. 911 Meets 988: Reimagining Crisis Response Through Alignment, Data, and Action
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In this episode, we explore the critical intersection of 911 and 988 and what it means for the future of crisis response systems across the country. With millions of calls flowing through both systems each year, the conversation goes beyond awareness and into action—highlighting the need for alignment, shared language, and system redesign. We unpack the realities of current response structures, the data driving change, and the opportunity to build a more effective, human-centered approach to crisis care that better serves communities, responders, and individuals in need.
In this episode, you will be able to:
- Understand the key differences and connections between 911 and 988 crisis response systems.
- Explore why many 911 calls fall outside traditional emergency response needs.
- Learn how alignment, shared terminology, and facilitation can strengthen crisis response efforts.
- Review key data points shaping national conversations around emergency and behavioral health response.
- Discover practical ways to engage in and influence local and state-level system change.
The key moments in this episode are:
00:00:00 - Introduction & Opening Story
00:02:10 - Why 911 and 988 Are Both Critical (and Confusing)
00:06:45 - The Reality of 911 Call Volume & System Strain
00:10:30 - What 988 Is—and How It’s Growing
00:14:15 - The Case for System Alignment & Shared Language
00:18:40 - Data Driving the Need for Change
00:22:05 - Rethinking Response: What Should Happen Instead?
00:25:30 - What You Can Do at the State & Local Level
00:28:00 - Opportunities for Engagement & Closing Thoughts
Links:
- http://Transform911.org
- https://www.samhsa.gov/mental-health/988/performance-metrics
- https://alumniandfriends.uchicago.edu/s/uchicago-review-story/a4X1U0000009gQUUAY/reimagining-crisis-response
- https://urbanlabs.uchicago.edu/attachments/f245b687ea00b9e61794dcba5e5937f3451aa6e4/store/8c61d792e209a352a81298a621188987628b280c2d03a600a7efb3c995d9/CARE+Eval+Report+-+FINAL_REL.pdf
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