Before You Cut Bangs
Hosted by Laura Quick and Claire Fierman, “Before You Cut Bangs” is full of hilarious conversations about real life, common and uncommon crises, and possible cosmetic errors that come along with it. Through storytelling and therapeutic wisdom, Claire and Laura share how to NOT fuck up your hair (and life) while walking through similar situations,
Produced by Will Lochamy
Before You Cut Bangs
2.19 Midlife Crisis: Myth or Meltdown?
What if your so-called midlife crisis is actually a breakthrough in disguise? In this refreshingly honest and often funny episode, Claire reveals that she rarely sees classic midlife meltdowns in her practice—no impulsive sports cars or dramatic divorces. Instead, she sees people wrestling with big life transitions, especially when the kids move out and questions of purpose move in. Rather than chaos, it's often grief and growth that define this phase.
Hosts Laura and Claire take on the myth of the “unhappiest decade,” push back against the idea that hard equals unhappy, and share personal stories—from accidental marriages to ultra-marathons—that show how even wild choices can lead us closer to who we really are. The episode wraps with a playful question: if you could have a midlife crisis, what would it look like? Goat farms, flight school, and radical haircuts all make an appearance—because maybe, just maybe, your weirdest urges are trying to tell you something true.
Welcome to, before you Cut Bangs. I'm Laura Quick and I'm Claire Fehrman. I am a professional storyteller and I'm currently working on my first book.
Speaker 2:I have worked in mental health for many years in lots of capacities and this is a really important time to tell you our big disclaimer this is not therapy. We are not your therapists or coaches or anything like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean you shouldn't really trust us very much at all. Unless you want to and it turns out well, then you can trust us. That's great.
Speaker 3:Are we midlife? Are we in midlife, you and I?
Speaker 1:are definitely Now wait a second. Yeah, I don't like to think like that, so I feel like midlife.
Speaker 3:You and I are definitely no wait a second, yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't like to think like that, so. I feel like midlife is older now.
Speaker 1:I think we just had the aging specialist on and we're pretty sure Will and I are at midlife.
Speaker 3:Well, certainly, if you go by Alabama standards, we're way past midlife I'm not kidding, yeah, by average life, that's true.
Speaker 2:But in our aging episode we're getting closer to 100, which puts us not quite midway there.
Speaker 1:Okay, I like what you're saying.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, I'm good with it. I still feel very young. Outside of my ankles I feel young. If I sprain an ankle it's going to hurt for a long time. I believe we talked about this. But yeah, outside of that I feel young.
Speaker 1:When I got that bruise from Botox, it held on for a while.
Speaker 3:That was rough.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:I'm glad you came up with that story.
Speaker 2:This feels vulnerable, but I'll tell you. I just said I got a bruise from.
Speaker 1:I got a black eye from Botox, yeah, but that was impermanent. The skin on my knees have changed, I'm sure yours have, and I was in a downward dog.
Speaker 2:My skin has and I was like, oh okay, like I remember seeing old lady knees and I'm like, well, that probably won't happen to me, but 100, not until it does it did. There's just nothing I can do. You cannot age backwards, as we learned so. So I'm going to keep. We're going to all keep eating well and letting stress roll off of us and moving that's right.
Speaker 1:Move your body, eat for what feels right.
Speaker 1:So our episode today is around middle age and the ever popular crises of a midlife crisis and if it's real, I actually had a 20 something year old girl walk up to me in the coffee shop today and she was like are you, laura? Like I? I came to your workshop remember last year when we did that workshop? And I was like it was so good to see you. And I was like, uh, I was like I'm actually going to record the podcast today. And she was like, great, what's this one on? And I was like, oh, it's midlife crisis. I was like, uh, she.
Speaker 1:I was like I'm actually going to record the podcast today, and she was like, great, what's this one on? And I was like, oh, it's midlife crisis. I was like, but you're far away. She was super young and she was like I'm in kind of a quarter life crisis right now and I was like there have been songs written about that. They are real too. I feel like crisis can happen, not just in midlife, right I actually don't see midlife crisis almost ever in my practice.
Speaker 2:I actually think it might be made up.
Speaker 3:But we'll get to that. I was about to say is it a real thing? Like what is it? I generally think of it just being like insecure guys.
Speaker 1:Wow yeah.
Speaker 3:Right yeah.
Speaker 1:The quintessential got a new car, did something weird. Bought a boat Started working out like really hardcore, maybe throwing some like steroids in there. Trying to act young Dating someone like age, not that age matters, but maybe someone polarizingly younger.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, poor women.
Speaker 3:Yeah, by the way, mark this down for an episode. We have to do that episode of why sometimes that, like the older guys dating younger girls, you don't see a lot of the opposite of that. Unless you're my child, I have thoughts on that whole.
Speaker 1:And then he does date women who are substantially older, like 40? No, like when he was 19, he was dating a 27-year-old.
Speaker 3:Uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:Gross.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's different. I'm talking about like a 22-year-old dating a 55-year-old or something. Woman, yeah.
Speaker 1:Dating a 55, or like a 50-year-old woman dating a 22-year-old.
Speaker 3:Guy, right, that's not, that's right, that's what I'm saying it does happen, but it feels very uncomfortable. But you will see that happen the opposite way.
Speaker 2:This is what my thought is, and y'all can argue with me. The brain develops later for men, so it makes more sense to me that a younger woman would seek out an older man that is not only more emotionally developed but maybe more stable financially, like more secure, where I would never go backwards Sorry, hunter and no offense to Hunter who's filming for us a young 20 something year old, because you there's a lot of raising to go through that women, I think progress faster than that.
Speaker 1:I would agree with that.
Speaker 2:But you're the man. Would you like to fight?
Speaker 3:No, I think that's a great explanation of that from a non-sexual standpoint. Okay, I'll add a sexual standpoint to it, okay.
Speaker 2:So I think that men somehow can age into this hot maturity. Like gray hair sometimes looks really sexy, even the ruggedness of a weathered face, that is.
Speaker 1:I think there's some sex appeal to that for a woman of just I mean I've. I see it okay. What's the? Here's a warm-up question what's the largest age gap you've ever had with someone? You've dated down or up how many years?
Speaker 2:hang on, I gotta do the math mine's easy. 13 years oh mine's like five or six older than me yeah, 13 years old, no 10 full 10 10 10 old and down wow older, so you've disproven my theory, wow.
Speaker 1:So go ahead, okay.
Speaker 2:Oh, look at how red he is. Okay, is Danielle secretly 10 years older than you? She?
Speaker 3:is Isn't that amazing.
Speaker 1:She looks incredible. She's 50. You look great, Danielle. Danielle, you are a rock star.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, at a 10-year age gap.
Speaker 1:Okay, and mine was 13. 13 up 13 up.
Speaker 3:Everybody was up, you're up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it ended poorly obviously.
Speaker 1:Ended poorly. It was the third accidental marriage and divorce. Well, obviously it was an accidental marriage, Divorce yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it didn't end. I mean yeah, yeah, it's not danielle. So okay.
Speaker 1:So here's my question is midlife crisis just a and like forget about when this happens? If it really happens, crisis is in life in general. Are they typically like buy the car, buy the weird car, do the crazy thing, like from a therapeutic standpoint? You, you said, I see this.
Speaker 2:So you don't see it? No, I don't.
Speaker 1:Oh, no, no, no, not midlife. You just said, I do see crises right oh.
Speaker 2:God, yeah, every day.
Speaker 1:I see a crisis.
Speaker 2:But the definition of midlife I would say the closest thing to that is when a mother sends her last child to school, particularly if she was a stay-at-home mother. There's a huge loss of purpose and that's very specific. I've had many, many women come to me and we go back and define purpose and what that really means, and it comes back to where is their value held. But they aren't buying a Corvette.
Speaker 3:They are it's more.
Speaker 2:It looks like grief. And so I think, because we grow up kind of thinking what a midlife crisis is and we do think mostly of men, Insecurity in men, yeah, Leaving their aging wife for some hot chick with no brains and buying something outlandish is what I think yes or like, and then starting to date, a substantially younger, newer version of maybe what they had before.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think okay. So this is a great time to say that if you have not watched four seasons, this kind of like walks this road with like a friend group who's been together for a really long time and been through a bunch of seasons together and then one person like bails on his, I won't, I won't ruin it, but I just kind of did.
Speaker 1:It's in the promo, okay.
Speaker 1:So yeah, it's funny because I asked to kind of say the same thing that you said like the midlife, like I don't necessarily know if that's true, I do think in my own journey as a human and I asked Shane if I could talk about kind of like what he said he experienced.
Speaker 1:He woke up on his 36th birthday and I had not met him yet, didn't know he existed, and he had a friend text him who's still really good friends with Robin, and she was like welp, you're officially in your late 30s, like your life is over now, you know. And she was totally just being funny and he said he like legitimately went into a spiral, like he was like oh my god, I've like done the things, the big things he wanted to do, and he was like but like I'm not happy, I'm not like none of this stuff like gave me what I thought it would like I thought, if I like accomplished the things in my career and had a family and like did this big shit that eventually I would be like, yes, I have, I have all this, whatever.
Speaker 1:But he woke up and was like, oh my God.
Speaker 2:Well, you mentioned this earlier to me and it was weird because I just read it. It's the bottom of the U-shaped curve of life. That was so crazy that you brought it up today, because I read about it yesterday and I was about to say I'm embarrassed to say I really don't care, I had never even heard that term. So if that's new to you, it's the theory that we're happiest in our 20s. Basically, the bottom of the curve is like raising our kids so that like 18 year to 20 something year period and then we're happy again when we're 60. And that is so sad to me.
Speaker 2:yeah, it's wrong though right, I agree, I think it's wrong.
Speaker 1:Well, grateful people are happy people, grateful people are happy. So whatever you focus on is going to multiply. Obviously we talk about that. I talk about that a ton. And back to shane's thing. I will say, like I had, so he had that and he burned on his life.
Speaker 1:I mean he would tell you like he divorced his wife, he he felt the bottom of the u-shaped curve he really felt it and you know, he did the things, bought the cars, did the thing, and he was like yep, still not happy. I mean, he didn't go like full red corvette or any weird thing like that, but he, he did, you know, meet a girl in the interstate and end up marrying her. But like I'm not substantially younger than Shane, we're like four years apart, which I feel like is very reasonable. But for me, I do resonate with the child thing and I have always been like a working mom. But when Clay was graduating from high school, the holy shit, this has been such a huge part of my identity I really struggled, being like, oh my God, two things. The big thing was is he going to be okay? Like, is he actually going to be ready for this? And the second thing was what the hell am I going to do? Like, am I going to be okay? And it was. It felt like a spiral for sure.
Speaker 2:So I think why you said it's not true is the part I can see that feels accurate. Let me start with that is when you're at the bottom, like when you're in the midst of parenting or getting secure financially or really knowing who you are, I do think that's hard, but I've said it before in here, hard doesn't equal bad unless you choose for hard to equal bad. Like having two babies at the same time in diapers wasn't my like favorite thing that I've ever done in my life, but I loved it and I was a generally very happy person. So to me, I'm wondering if these measures of happiness whoever's doing them is if things are quote like easier because you're not wiping bottoms and you're not like how are we going to pay the mortgage, you're more stabilized, with less on your plate. But it makes me sad that people are looking at this hard part as bad because it's so precious, like you cried after you saw a newborn I literally wept on the way here like I'm so thankful I had a like a little time buffer.
Speaker 1:I have, uh, one, one of the young women who work for me. She's just had a baby. But it's like a full circle thing because she's Sarah Margaret has been with me since when she was an intern for me when she was in college. I gave her like we threw her a 22nd birthday party Taylor Swift theme where Taylor Swift, a life-size Taylor Swift had a job offer in her hand, taped to her hand. And now she is. I've watched her get married and I just held her baby and then we're like you're at the bottom of the curve.
Speaker 2:Good luck honey.
Speaker 1:No, I absolutely was like you're going to be the best mom and I just love it so much. And then I called Jane and I was like I am weeping in my car and can't pull my shit together, like what is going on, and he's like you just love that baby so much. But I do think, and back to what you said, like I think for me, even though Clay graduated was really hard and did feel like a little bit of a spin out for sure, and I was like struggling, I was like, oh my God, he's not ready, he's a psychopath. Like he's not prepared, did I teach him how to buy groceries? Probably not.
Speaker 1:But the thing that really like, really, when I look back and I think about crisis, is they were definitely not midlife, like I'm talking, in my twenties, I had the most spin outs and that was based on trauma, the manifestation of trauma, um, and how it showed up in my life and me trying to find the thing to make to quiet the noise. Yeah, like a hundred radio stations playing at the same time. This is how my therapist, andy in Nashville every time me and Shane have a session, he's like all right, parachuting in, Shane, when you are anxious, you, you tend to turn the volume down. You're looking for things to turn the volume down. Maybe we'll have a drink, maybe you'll you'll, you'll pile on something new at work. But, laura, you turn the volume up. You turn the volume up.
Speaker 3:But I'm literally like laughing and I'm like I'm just thinking about myself in that situation. I couldn't go through that without giggling.
Speaker 1:You would laugh the whole time. Honestly, shane and I cannot make eye contact when he's doing it. God, andy, if you listen to this. I'm so sorry. I'm totally, but he's a great therapist. No, straight in, but he talks about. I turn the volume up and that is what happens. The volume is so loud for me All the radio stations are playing at the same time and I have to do something. I used to have to do something to turn them off, so what I did was get married, obviously, and then over and over and over again and each time it felt like I would learn that that is not the way.
Speaker 1:but I did not learn until the last accidental marriage to the nice alcoholic man.
Speaker 2:Well, I have an idea about how to reframe this for everyone, because some of what we've talked about is you can break through and further develop yourself. Like look at Shane now, after he burned it down, like he really shifted his life. Okay, so might have had a breakdown to break through, um, but let's I have a really solid list of, if y'all think it is crisis, what do we want to call it? Uh, let's just say crisis or not. And I'm dying because I'm like, oh shit, I've like done a lot of these so um all right, let's hear it okay, uh, we'll just.
Speaker 2:This is a person. Let's say this the people I'm talking about are between 35 and 45. They're not 20. Okay, they got a tattoo of a mountain range.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I don't think that's a crisis.
Speaker 3:Where? Where is the tattoo? How big is the tattoo?
Speaker 1:Let's say like it's on their arm, a little wrist tattoo.
Speaker 3:I don't think that's a crisis? I don't think it is either. Okay.
Speaker 2:Well, my mom just got a tattoo and it really bothered me, so I'm going to say crisis.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's not fair. I was like there has to be context to this she started running ultra marathons.
Speaker 2:You are her. Are you in a crisis? That's what I'm like, and what am I running from?
Speaker 1:Wait, wait, wait, though You're more on a two year, three year health journey.
Speaker 2:True, thank you see breakthrough.
Speaker 1:It does not feel like a moderate. I told y'all if I would have showed up today and said I'm running an ultra, y'all would be like you okay agreed yes I also wouldn't be surprised you are are impulsive and fun.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's true, God. I am fun. Thanks for bringing that up.
Speaker 2:Okay, this is let's say this, for a man started wearing leather pants regularly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a crisis. That's a crisis, that's a problem.
Speaker 2:Adopted a rescue parrot named Carl. That's you. I hate that so many are possibly me.
Speaker 1:Okay, many are possibly me. Okay, that is you. Do you feel like I do worry about the amount of animals that you would collect if you didn't feel like you would be reported in Homewood?
Speaker 3:But that's just her personality. It's not a crisis.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was from birth Collecting things okay.
Speaker 1:I've just been in crisis, alright, so bought a parrot named Pearl.
Speaker 2:These are starting to stress me out. I didn't read through the whole list because I'm like I just did start. It's like cold plunge. Literally did it last week, so we're gonna skip wait, wait.
Speaker 1:Actually, that was actually like a great moment.
Speaker 2:You called me, remember you, you called me yeah, well, I have her location for some security issues for me, like mental health, not not physical safety.
Speaker 1:I just like to know where she is at all times and one time I left the country and she really freaked out and I was like you can have my location.
Speaker 2:It's never happened again like you can't leave and not tell me. So anyways, I went and did contrast therapy, where you do a sauna for 20 minutes and then a cold plunge for four. And she texted me something funny and I looked at her location as one would after getting a text where are you? And she was on like third avenue and I was on second avenue. I was like I'm leaving contrast therapy and she's like well, I left the art museum and I'm going to eat dinner at helen and I was like, well, we are different yeah, speaking of contrast yeah, I was in a one-piece suit soaking wet on second avenue a real speedo though.
Speaker 2:Okay, took up fencing, just to try something new see I don't think.
Speaker 1:I think that's a no it because I think that's just an adventurous, want to try new things, like that's a will.
Speaker 3:See, I was about to say that I feel like not the leather pants, but most of the things, and not the sports car, but most of the things that would fall under the guy, like midlife crisis, are just things that I have done since I was 10.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or whatever. You just like new things.
Speaker 3:The skydiving all, the motorcycle all the stuff. It's like that's just been consistent. There's never been like a oh, now I'm going to. No, I do want to learn new things, yeah, but there's nothing like the outlandish things I do, have just been consistent.
Speaker 2:How about replaced all furniture with floor cushions?
Speaker 1:That feels like a crisis.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that feels like an intervention level crisis. Grew a beard and started journaling. That feels like a like intervention level crisis. Grew a beard and started journaling.
Speaker 1:It feels like a awakening. I like it.
Speaker 2:Okay, this is the meanest list. It's like did yoga teacher training check? Oh my God.
Speaker 3:Is it funny, is it? You didn't write these?
Speaker 2:No, I found a list.
Speaker 3:So, listener, I'm sure you're picking up, but like half of these are things that Claire has recently done.
Speaker 1:Or currently is doing.
Speaker 2:If they had sourdough on here, I'd be fucked.
Speaker 1:It's not on my list, God, I hope I mean. Well, let's add it.
Speaker 2:I gotta take a look.
Speaker 1:Taking a break.
Speaker 2:Okay so y'all are pretty loose with these, though Y'all are like oh, breakthrough.
Speaker 1:Okay so y'all are pretty loose with these, though Y'all are like oh, breakthrough, right, you're just really growing. I feel like there is a fine line, though, right, like if, between a crisis and a a growth mindset, because a growth mindset would be like I love learning new things and I'm going to. You know, I feel a little stagnant, so I'm going to try something new. I think the difference to me, as an outsider, is a crisis means you're hurting someone or some group of people that you do life with because of the drastic changes you're making.
Speaker 3:Oh, interesting yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1:Because when you think about buying a car like who cares, buy a car, that Okay. Because when you think about buying a car like who cares, buy a car, that's great. If you think about buying a car, but your family suffers because you made this extravagant purchase, that's a totally different thing. If you think about like I'm just not happy, so I'm bailing on, my marriage of 20 years and my children are in flux and this is really hurting them, that feels more like a crisis and again pulling the rip cord just because you're not happy and not doing any work around it. That's different than like we tried all the things and we couldn't make it work and we're just parting ways. So for me, when I think of a crisis, I think of like are you burning some shit down? That's going to hurt other people.
Speaker 2:Okay, I like that.
Speaker 1:Because all your hobbies that are on the checklist are really kind and wonderful and they make people better and they are good conversation starters.
Speaker 3:It's all you stuff. Even if you haven't done these things before, like now running and whatever, it's still you, it still fits you.
Speaker 1:Actually Claire's ran, since I've known her, just not like this and not well. I'm glad we got together today.
Speaker 3:Are you a faller. What do you mean? Not?
Speaker 1:well, she's more of a soft jay jog. You know what I mean, yawg.
Speaker 3:More of a yawg back in the day, more like me, I could have kept up with you back then. Not like the in-depth explanation you just gave, but when I think of the crisis, I think of someone trying to be something that they are not at all, and it's awkward. They're awkwardly trying to do things to make themselves different from what they actually are.
Speaker 2:One time I Googled how to become a pharmaceutical rep, and that's a little crisis-y.
Speaker 1:Is this? When I started smoking in my 20s yes, and people were like what's happening? Okay, because here's what. I'm going to say this to that because that feels. I hated that when you said it because I was like ugh, Because this is why, when I lived in Savannah, I had this group of friends that really loved fun, crazy, could get married this weekend. Laura, they like loved her, and when I was trying to get better and heal, some things that were like coming up for me. I like literally had to move because they just did not want to see a different version of me. It was like and and I'm not blaming them like obviously that's whatever, but I could not grow and heal because of that. There, I had to like legitimately.
Speaker 1:I moved to alabama partially because of that and you're like fun, bobby yeah friends, right, yes, yes, I was, and you know she would pick up.
Speaker 2:Nobody wanted her to let go. Of fun bob I get it.
Speaker 1:I mean fun, laura was fun.
Speaker 2:I mean this is the girl who, like you know, my brother would have to go like approve charges because I would sign my, so you wouldn't consider the move and I'm saying this in a positive way that wasn't a burn it all down, that was a breakthrough, even though you had to wipe it all clean, I mean I literally had to stop talking to everyone I knew for a period of time to, and now I I have some really great relationships that I've been able to rekindle.
Speaker 1:I even remember, like one of my closest friends, that I and longest standing friendships and we're still very good friends. She lives in North Carolina. Her name is Megan. If you're listening, I love you. Um, I remember her saying to me, even after I moved to Alabama and started my company and she came to an event and whatever, and I started dating. After my third accidental marriage and it's dying Divorce I hate saying it, but it is true she said listen, it's okay that you're not supposed to be married. It's okay that you're just not the type of person that's going to be a wife. And it killed me to hear her say that because, like, all I wanted to be was a healthy, good wife. Eventually, I wanted to be a good partner to somebody and I remember when she said that I was like shit't, she doesn't believe I can change she doesn't believe I can, like, fix this part, whatever's broken in me.
Speaker 1:She just doesn't think it's fixable. I'm just not supposed to be that and I was like fuck, and I took a little break from not from her, but from this idea of like I'm either going to listen to that and believe it's true about myself, or I'm going to go figure out what's going on and why do I keep repeating this cycle? And is it fixable? Or is this who I am? So you know, leave some space for your friends and be like I'm trying to fucking get better.
Speaker 3:Well, what was that to me?
Speaker 2:But I like, I'm trying to fucking get better, will Wait what. What was that to me? What I don't know? It kind of felt good to get it out At me, though.
Speaker 1:No, no, because you said, I believe, when people are just like doing stuff that feels like, not them.
Speaker 3:That's what I think of when I think of midlife crisis.
Speaker 1:It resonated with me.
Speaker 3:I was saying you gave a much better definition, because all I think of is people trying to be different.
Speaker 2:Okay, so if you're listening, well, obviously you're listening If you hear the sound of my voice, can you hear us? So learning what's breakthrough and growth for you versus crisis, and what goes along with who you are to your core, kind of what Will was saying it's already part of you and you're just developing more of it instead of this black and white, except when you have to leave the state. And then I have a question If, if nothing changed in your lives in the next 10 years, would you be upset about something?
Speaker 3:No, I mean like little tweaks here and there, but nothing substantial.
Speaker 1:If nothing changed in my life. I don't believe that's possible. That's not.
Speaker 2:But you wrote this question, laura. I hate when I write questions. That's possible, that's not, but you wrote this question, laura.
Speaker 1:I hate, when I write questions that I hate, all right Shit. Um I I don't know. I'm thankful for my life. So if nothing changed, I believe I would still find a way to be grateful, cause it's not like it's monotonous. My life is different every fricking day. I mean honestly monotonous. My life is different every freaking day.
Speaker 2:I mean, honestly, my puppy. A year ago, when I got Glenda, she ate the whole couch. I remember I have to have a different couch Other than that.
Speaker 3:Oh. I want bigger couches.
Speaker 2:I mean, outside of that, I like where I'm going, yeah, but that couch has to be thrown away.
Speaker 1:We gotta get rid of it. It's time.
Speaker 3:So your answer's no, because I've got stuff like that. I know I've got all kinds of little fun stuff like that.
Speaker 1:I was gonna say too, like, yeah, I got some improvements that I'm in the midst of and some things that it would I guess no.
Speaker 3:I book deal will be announced by the time this comes out.
Speaker 1:So, like it's gonna be, this comes out by the time this podcast comes out. Congratulations, thank you so much. Officially, my book comes out september 2026 and I signed with hashette, yeah, so but like my mouth's hanging open, I'm not just not talking but I think that I it would be heartbreaking, obviously, if nothing changed in regards to like getting things over the finish line that maybe are in flux now. So I hope that the things that I have open right now are closed and, like I, have a new other things so that way bigger couches books are finished.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I wasn't thinking of like that question of like, oh, just normal progress with things. I was thinking more of like there's something negative that needs to change, kind of which I don't, yeah.
Speaker 1:I agree with that. So you gotta get a new couch though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the rest is gonna be between me and my therapist, so I just want one of those bigger, like Cindy Crawford couches, oh.
Speaker 1:Crawford Homes hey, she's got some good stuff.
Speaker 3:I know, I wonder if it's quality. It is, it is, it's nice. It's not any cheap, real nice.
Speaker 2:Real nice Good for her. That's called a breakthrough, are we?
Speaker 1:missing anything on midlife crises. If you could have a midlife crisis right now, what would you do? If you could really just go for it, just do some crazy shit, blow something up. You would get a goat farm, I would get the farm I knew you would. I knew you were going to say that I would leave the therapy business.
Speaker 2:behind I'd have a variety of goats.
Speaker 1:She would be at the farmer's market in Pepper's Place this weekend selling goat soap or whatever you sell.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I would love it.
Speaker 1:I know you would. You're a creep, All right Goat soap or whatever you said.
Speaker 3:I would love it. I know you would. Alright, what about you if you could blow some shit up? I would take it alone and like finish all my flight school stuff and become like a flight instructor and pilot, like still do what I do, but then also then Be a pilot on the side.
Speaker 1:What about you If you could have a quarter life crisis? What would it be? Probably I want more tattoos. What about you If you could have a quarter life crisis? What would it be, Hunter? Probably I want more tattoos. So I'd probably do that, and then I would quit everything that I'm doing and buy a legit film camera and just film as much stuff as I can.
Speaker 2:Just go for it.
Speaker 1:Just go for it really. Move to Hollywood, Damn Move to Hollywood. I think you might change your mind if you get out there, though it's pretty fucked it's his crisis, all right, yeah, I know you can do it definitely think the uh fish in the small pond. You go out there and they're 18 million people trying to do everything you're doing which would make you better but also make you very hungry, probably if y'all were how old are you?
Speaker 2:25, 22, 22? If y'all were, how old are you 25? 22. 22. If y'all were 22 and said that and old people were like, well, if you get out there you're not trying to remind, what would you have thought? I don't know.
Speaker 3:I think Hunter can do it. My advice would be do it in Birmingham.
Speaker 1:Agreed.
Speaker 3:And not go to LA, where there are 1500 people, which way you're planted?
Speaker 1:I love everything you're saying, because you don't have a ton of competitors here Doing what you're doing and honing your craft. You're like on track, all right.
Speaker 2:And you can take that to the bank, Connor.
Speaker 1:All right, if I could have a midlife or a crisis right now, I would chop my hair off. You'd look so good.
Speaker 2:With a bob, are you?
Speaker 1:kidding. Yes, like a little.
Speaker 2:I mean, all you'd have to do is get Elizabeth put in if you didn't like it. That's true.
Speaker 1:I don't have a lot to lose. Do it.
Speaker 3:Do it Big fan.
Speaker 1:All right. Well, I'm thinking about it. Oh my God.
Speaker 2:What if the next episode I'm Will was the one you?
Speaker 1:made us think that you had some like crazy stuff done. We showed up and you're like, we're like, that looks great that was the weirdest thing ever.
Speaker 3:You're like disaster, total disaster, and look at you like wait a minute. What your hair looks really great. What's going on?
Speaker 2:Not bad to me. Anyways, you should do it. We'll really support you here. All right, fine?
Speaker 1:Okay, call a therapist instead of a crisis.
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