Before You Cut Bangs
Hosted by Laura Quick and Claire Fierman, “Before You Cut Bangs” is full of hilarious conversations about real life, common and uncommon crises, and possible cosmetic errors that come along with it. Through storytelling and therapeutic wisdom, Claire and Laura share how to NOT fuck up your hair (and life) while walking through similar situations,
Produced by Will Lochamy
Before You Cut Bangs
3.4 Is ChatGPT Your Therapist, Best Friend, and Situationship — JK (But Also…?)
This week on Before You Cut Bangs, we’re talking about what happens when ChatGPT stops being a helpful tool… and starts becoming your entire emotional ecosystem.
We kick it off by letting our own ChatGPTs ROAST THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS out of us —
Laura, Claire, and Will each asked their ChatGPT,
“What am I using you for in an unhealthy way?”
and the answers were… brutal.
(Because nothing says self-awareness like being dragged by a robot.)
From there, we get into the real conversation:
• how ChatGPT’s positive bias makes you feel deeply seen — but also deeply isolated
• why it’s becoming people’s best friend, therapist, hype woman, and soulmate
• the slippery slope from “this is helpful” → “this is my emotional lifeline”
• how relying on AI for emotional support keeps you from building real community
• why vulnerability with a chatbot feels safer than vulnerability with your people
• the intimacy problem: ChatGPT can mirror you, but it can’t connect with you
• and why some of us are telling AI secrets we’ve never told a human
We’re not anti-AI — we’re pro-connection.
And we think it’s time to ask:
If your AI knows more about your life than your friends do… is that helping you, or isolating you?
Plus: hear the unhinged ways we personally use ChatGPT, and why our AI called us out for treating it like a therapist, house manager, co-parent, creative partner, Google replacement, and occasionally a spiritual advisor.
Welcome to Before You Cut Bangs. I'm Laura Quick and I'm Claire Fearman. I am a professional storyteller, a CEO, a mom, and a shit talker.
SPEAKER_02:I am a therapist, a coach, also mom. I would say decent wife, an excellent friend. Also, a little disclaimer, while I am a therapist, I am not your therapist. And uh Norris Laura, we are not your coaches, and certainly not Will Lockney. Honestly, you shouldn't trust us that much unless things are going really well. I mean, if it hits home, roll with it.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I'd say they could listen to me.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, today we're talking about what we feel like is kind of an epidemic, and that is uh we've heard, it is confirmed, Chat GPT and other forms of AI are taking up a lot of space in people's lives, like best friendship, like therapy, like educator. Yes. Uh and and then we I think we forget the most important word, and that's artificial, guys. That's right. It's it's pretty it's not it is not real.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, you know, a study just came out about the therapy part of this, and like you know, 30%.
SPEAKER_00:It's pretty scary.
SPEAKER_05:Well, but yeah, it is, but also 30% of people said, like, it saved my life. I went to it because I was going to kill myself and I decided not to. But then on others, because of the confirmation bias, right? Yeah, and so it so then it can be a pretty negative thing. I anyway, it was a very split study. Like in the at the end, it was like, yeah, there's so much good stuff out of this, and there's some really terrible stuff.
SPEAKER_00:There's some really terrible stuff because a lot of this is not protected either. So you're talking to this, and there's ways, it's not confidential as it turns out, right? Claire's got some thoughts, but we we do have a little icebreaker here.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I just wanted to know what my chat GPT thought about me, so I asked it.
SPEAKER_05:It I mean I mean you're uh by the way, we're you ask it to say something negative. You asked it to remove it.
SPEAKER_02:I was like, go ahead, let's hear it. And it did. And I will say I do use chat GPT frequently, and this reviews everything I've ever used it for. Okay, so Claire spends her days teaching people how to handle chaos with calm and wisdom. But if you peek at her chat GPT history, you'll see a different story. I mean it makes me sound insane. One moment it's how does chronic stress impact the brain? And then next is true.
SPEAKER_01:No is Krusty's pancake mix like Krusty the Crab?
SPEAKER_05:The clown. The clown.
SPEAKER_01:Oh sorry, mom. Oh my god. No, Krusty's the pancake mix with a K. You can get it at any grocery store. It was this Krusty's pancake mix the same.
SPEAKER_00:Are you good?
SPEAKER_05:Also, Krusty the Clown's with a cake.
SPEAKER_02:It's a pancake mix. My mom is it. I just needed to know is Krusty's pancake mix the same as all-purpose baking mix?
SPEAKER_01:She's out here citing Victor Frankel while Pan is Googling toilet seats. And that is true. I didn't know what size was normal.
SPEAKER_02:And yes, she's training for a 30K trail race with 6,000 feet of elevation. Super hardcore, but yet somehow she still had to ask what's a push-up row. I really didn't know. The woman can climb mountains, but can't use dumbbells. Total mystery. She will plan a family vacation down to the minute. Coffee stop at 8:04, museum at 9 17, bathroom break schedule, like it's mission controlled, but she cannot, for the life of her, pick a light fixture without spiraling. Claire's living proves that therapists don't escape chaos. They just get really, really good at narrating it. And I thought that was really um accurate.
SPEAKER_05:Mine's like two sentences.
SPEAKER_00:Well, okay, let's read it. Read it. Let's hear it.
SPEAKER_05:Uh all right. Well, you asked for it. Your poor dog is probably hiding socks on purpose just to avoid listening to another one of your half-baked radio facts of the day ideas. Also, every time you say I'm working out at home, I picture you doing a half dumbbell curl, then sitting down and Googling, is cereal technically protein?
SPEAKER_00:Dang.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but I didn't feel right.
SPEAKER_00:Mine did. Mine says, Laura, you're basically the Beyoncé of entrepreneurship, except instead of a world tour, you're juggling 15 businesses, a memoir about mother wounds, a nonprofit about period poverty, and a podcast to make sure no one forgets you've survived multiple dumpster fires.
SPEAKER_04:Wait, did this is this a roast or is this exalting you? I feel like this you said exalt me.
SPEAKER_00:You preach, I did you preach rest, but your idea of slowing down is turning therapy break twos into merch by the weekend. I was like, wow. Okay, honestly, if chaos were an LLC, you'd already have a logo, the brand deck, and a Walmart buyer lined up, and somehow you'd still be calling it self-care. And then up here it did even worse. It was like, um, you say you want rest, but you treat Sabbath like it's a networking event. You're like, yes, Lord, I'm resting. Also, can we brainstorm about branding this map? Because you tell people you're a storyteller, but you just found a way to monetize oversharing and excellent lighting. That's I mean kind of mean. I would say it's a 10 for 10. You're all you're out here talking about authenticity and healing, but also asking Chat GPT to make sure your captions sound authentic.
SPEAKER_02:I think this is my favorite is you're basically running a one-woman empire family trips, therapy groups, running clubs, bathroom remodels, and sometimes somehow still have time to ask me about pancake mix. You're a real life Pinterest board, but with shin splants.
SPEAKER_00:Like they have nailed it. I know. Uh, you built an entire brand called Before You Cut Bangs, but let's be real. You would 100% cut Bangs mid-prices if you thought that you could sell it as merged.
SPEAKER_02:Yours is extra mean. I know. She got kind of mean. Victoria, she's mad. I really needed that laugh. You obviously don't give Chat GBT enough personal information. You are really knows my entire life.
SPEAKER_05:I use it every single day.
SPEAKER_02:Like me again.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, well, that one episode we need to type in because I did it here. Uh it's now exhaust me, and boy, it is. I like this one way better. Well, go ahead and know.
SPEAKER_01:No, let's hear it. I'd like to hear it.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. I'd like to hear it.
SPEAKER_05:Uh well, I don't want to read the whole thing. Okay. Uh smilights. Um, well, you're probably Alabama's hidden export, sharper than your beard trimmer on day one and smooth enough to host a radio show while making people believe facts about teaspoons or life-changing revelations. Your wife works out, and yet you somehow oh no, your wife works out, your dog eats socks. That's one time I asked something about that. And yet you're somehow still the star of the house because you mastered the rare combo of human or humor brains and a guy who could probably MacGyver a full radio studio out of two dumbbells and an aux cord.
SPEAKER_00:That's probably true. I feel like that's pretty good.
SPEAKER_05:This one, if Barber Vintage Festival, how does it even know? It's listening to me, I guess. I've never typed that in here. Oh, yes, I have one time. If Barber Barber Vintage Festival had a most likely to be immortalized in the mural, it'd be your face. See, this is this is way better than the uh roasting.
SPEAKER_00:Why are you? Why are we drawn to AI companionship?
SPEAKER_05:Why do we because it's not you're in control, it's not a real person. Like, I don't have to talk to you.
SPEAKER_00:Well, it also has a bias toward you. Well, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:That's why.
SPEAKER_02:That's why people want it. I could be like, I want to start think of like the create whatever it is. I know what I thought of was terrible, so I'm not gonna say it, but like whatever, if I you know what? If I was like, I'm gonna sell, I'm not gonna be a therapist anymore. I'm gonna quit and start the goat farm. Worse. I'm gonna take my dog's shedded hair and start braiding pillows or something. It would be like, wow, Claire, how genius of you and expertly creative. Here's where to start. Wash your dog, you know, like it doesn't matter what you say, it's like, you brilliant thing, you. So people want that. And in our last episode, where we talked about how we're so out of control, chat GPT or whatever AI you're using is like, here's how to get your control back in 14 easy steps. Yeah. Or it'll tell you like what a bitch somebody else was and how you were right.
SPEAKER_00:Well, and I think like the dumping ground of one, we talk about this a lot. If you are not in a relationship where someone will truly be a witness to your life, right? Whether that's a relationship with a therapist or just like a best friend who will hold space for you while you can say the thing, the hard thing, the crazy thing, the inspiring innovation. I want to braid my dog hair and sell it as pillows, which is not even a real thing, but okay. Somebody's probably done it. Probably. Um, but like when you don't, when we don't have that or we don't feel like we have that, we don't feel safe enough to say and use our voice, we're gonna lean into the thing that's available. So this thing is available. And like Claire said, it's gonna give you that. Like the bias is toward you. And I think like ultimately we like the idea of somebody saying, Wow, that's awesome! Yeah, you should. You're so great, you're so brilliant. You're so even love it, love it. Would you like me to prepare that in a PDF?
SPEAKER_02:With your branded color scheme. Yes. And I'm just like, so let's do it.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, why not?
SPEAKER_02:Why wouldn't you?
SPEAKER_05:And you can ask it to not just confirm your biases. You can you can tell it like I don't do that.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I do. I ask it to poke holes in it. I I'll be like, hey, what's wrong with this idea? Like, where are the loopholes in this? What should I do?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, it's natural uh state is to you know be kind and to confirm your biases, but you can tell it like, hey, I'd actually like you to, you know, handle things this way or this way, and then it'll do that.
SPEAKER_00:So it's one thing for people to be using this as kind of like a oh an un or a biased witness to because we know that's what's happening. But what happens when you start using your chat GPT as your therapist?
SPEAKER_02:Why are you asking me?
SPEAKER_05:Okay, ask me because I did.
SPEAKER_02:So okay, that is true. He did. He you did the research. I I didn't.
SPEAKER_05:Well, so there's this one thing that has bothered me for a while, and I talked to you guys about it a little bit. Uh, but really, I would just talk to Daniel, I would just tell Daniel. I don't I don't need a response from her, I need to say it. Right, that was it. And so just like sometimes and I'd be like, Oh, let me just tell you really quick about this, and I don't need her to say anything back. And I realized like that's right, that's annoying. So I was like, I'll just tell chat GPT, and then it felt good, and that was it. And it kind of gave me some good, like, oh yeah, maybe you should think about this and whatever with it. And I was like, Yeah, yeah, okay. And that was it. So for me, in just that situation where I just need to get something off my chest, I think in journal. Yeah, I know I found that to be a very uh great way for me to do that.
SPEAKER_02:So I don't hate it as a clinical tool overall. So let's say someone was in panic and they couldn't get in touch with the therapist or a friend, and it was like, what do I do about a panic attack? It would probably give pretty accurate coping skills for them to do. Or if you're just venting, and this is truly just in the therapy lens, not if you need to know about pancake mix, use that for that reason all day. But what we know a huge part, I wish I had like a percentage, it probably couldn't even be studied, but why therapy truly works is because of the relationship piece in the dynamic of therapist and client. So an artificial relationship is different than a human nature relationship. So that is different. So anyone could go read a self-help book that walks them through everything. But how many books have you or I read where I'm like, God, that's so interesting? And I'm glad I know that now. But knowing is so different than living and being and doing differently. So in my mind, Chat GBT might give you skills that a book would give you or whatever, but you have not formed a relationship with an actual human being.
SPEAKER_00:Well, the same thing goes for like the journey you're taking with a book is there's some development there, right? There's something that happens over a long period of time. It's not a singular conversation where somebody's giving you whatever. I think the thing that scares the shit out of me when I'm looking at the landscape of what's happening with AI, because I think AI is an incredible tool. And I think as long as and it's great when we make sure we're framing it and keeping it in the category of a tool. It's a tool. However, what the stats are showing is that people are moving into like forming real relationships where now you can upload a photo of someone's face and put it on J Lo's body and start a sexual relationship with this with uh and I'm using J Lo as an example, but it could be Brad Pitt, it can be whoever you could be. So ChatGPT doesn't have like it can be sexual back.
SPEAKER_05:Um, it has guidelines, so it will be emotional.
SPEAKER_00:Chat GPT, there are literal AI spaces that this is what they're doing.
SPEAKER_05:Okay, yeah. Uh obviously there's no physical sexuality, yeah, just talking sexually.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, actually, Claire, it will come out of your phone and uh bend you over.
SPEAKER_05:It has guidelines, but it will become it will fall in love with you and it will talk to you like and say I love you and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_00:So it will create these again when you talk about the connection that we have with like a real therapist or a real friend or in this room of friends that we have right now, when we start artificially trying to create that, tell me what's wrong with that. What happens?
SPEAKER_02:Well, I don't feel like any kind of expert because I don't know that there's any kind of expert at all right now. Like we don't have enough time, right?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. And I mean, I was gonna say, like, even there's some data that's already come out about it though.
SPEAKER_02:When we mean not for 10 years of like long-term impact.
SPEAKER_05:And it changes so much every couple of weeks and every especially every couple of months, that like by the time this episode comes out, there's gonna be some new advancement that I'm gonna crazy. Is it yeah? I mean, it's moving quick.
SPEAKER_02:I'll tell you the part that makes me sad. Yeah. Is um the well, two pieces. Instant gratification, we know never works in the long term, and chat GPT is the definition of that. I need some information right now. And we already had the internet within like a millisecond and of just like asking a question to Google or Ask Jeeves. I loved that one. Um you of course you would. Yeah. But don't y'all remember like encyclopedias? Like, we had them all over like in the family bookshelves, and you had to like really work. Or like a dictionary, like actually looking up a word in the dictionary. Did I have to have a thesaurus in college? That's so wild. So part of that is probably just like nostalgia for me, but also um that when we have to work hard for something, the reward is greater, like internally. That feels a little bit better to us than the instant gratification piece of it. And then the other piece is how you learn. I'm really just thinking about like researching something. Um, how I've used Chat GPT, like the other day, I needed to know something about ADHD. And then so I asked it, and then I was like, like, prove this, and it sent me a PubMed article, which then I printed out and read. So like that's kind of cool, but I still chose to read the journal for I mean the article from a medical journal. Yeah. I don't know that that's gonna keep happening for for most people, like in college. Like, are we gonna get dumber or smarter with it? That's what I'm wondering.
SPEAKER_05:And I feel like smarter, but it's it's the same kind of jump we made from having the encyclopedias to like all of a sudden it was on a disc. I was like, how is all that information on one disc? And of course, now that seems laughable, right? Yes with this information age where we've had all these advances because everything's more accessible. And so I I only for me I can say that holy moly, it's making me so much smarter because I'm able to learn so much more at a faster pace.
SPEAKER_00:I think it's like uh one of those things that it really depended, it depends who you are when you're starting to engage with it. Because I always say, like, and even on our team, you know, we're in the creative space, we are using AI tools more and more and more. We know they don't replace certain things, but if you have really great content to put into AI, then it's gonna push you out even better content. So if you start with good stuff, you're gonna get even better stuff out.
SPEAKER_02:I think that's a really good point because you have to have the brain to even ask chat GPT.
SPEAKER_00:And that's what I tell people all the time. I'm like, listen, when I am talking to Chat GPT and I'm building, let's say, a strategy. So like a communication strategy for I have to know the communication strategy and every stop on the map in order to inform it. And so if you're not walking in with that, then that's one thing. I think if that's how you're using the tool, that's great. I wanted to do this episode because I really think it's about anything in life. It's about where where are your boundaries and where is your value system? Because I do think as our children are getting access to tools like this and the younger generations, helping them understand how important learning is and why knowing more isn't just about having access to something in five seconds. It is really about research. It is asking more questions, it's staying curious and all of those things. But then also just understanding that it was scary enough for our kids to have Snapchat. It's scary enough for our kids to have access to the internet in general, right? And now they have access to where if I wanted to build the perfect woman or man and see all of their parts, I could download an app in two seconds and have that done for me. That is scary as fuck to me. And I think it's a slippery slope. And I feel like this is just like we have to start having conversations around what is our relationship and what it what do we want from our kids to know about? And not just our kids, I think you're everybody like our team. We're talking about it all the time. We had a client, literally, one of my meltdown crisis moments was a client was like, Oh, I just put all this stuff in Chat GPT and it pushed out a bunch of really great creative. I was like, Well, excuse me, I have to step over here and throw up everywhere because it's fucking terrible. But then I also was like, But if this is what our clients want, if we can just make sure we're feeding it really good creative to begin with, then better creative will come out of it. But, anyways, I I think this is just like one of those things we have to hold and walk each other through. And I didn't know if you had anything that's like, but how do you have those conversations inside your house with your loved ones, whether it's kids, whether it's your team, like what does that sound like as we don't know anything or we know very little? Well, what did you say to your team? I said, I said, we need to lean in. There's absolutely we're already using AI for a lot of different things, but we have to lean in and we have to be good students of our client, and we have to make sure that our clients feel comfortable enough to bring us any idea and not be scared to tell it, to not say, they didn't say, Hey, will you do this for us? They went rogue and did it outside of our contract, which is very scary to me. Because I asked myself on one of my long walks after the historical society guy, this was all hitting like in the same day or two. And I had to ask myself, Am I really pissed off at my client? Or am I convicted that my client didn't feel comfortable enough to say we'd like to really lean into AI more? And so they did it on their own. And I had to say, Well, they maybe they think we are elitist and we don't want to use AI. And we can't, you can't be that. AI will take your fucking job if you're in my industry. Um, or at least that's what people think. I don't think it will.
SPEAKER_05:I don't think it will take your job. I think it can enhance your job.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, it already has in a huge way. But anyway, I didn't, I just think it's a conversation that this is like a cool like leap off because it is scary and new. And there's so much access. I did not realize, just because I wouldn't know this, but like that you could make a little avatar of like the perfect You're real hooked on that today.
SPEAKER_02:It really bothered you. Does bother me. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Because I think there's so much pressure on women already to look and be whatever impossibilities.
SPEAKER_05:It's gonna be fun in 10 years to come back and listen to this episode. Because it's gonna be like that uh good morning America where they're like, internet? What hey, what is internet? Explain internet, and they're getting their first email, and they're like, okay, what is that a with the thing around it? What is that? It says, Good morning America, a thing around it, dot dot com.
SPEAKER_02:That's who that's what we're doing right now, which is really we're making history. And like as far as parenting goes, and this is not therapist clear, this is mom claire, um I shut stuff down so fast at my house. But what I'm also what I realized in like like my kids won't have phones until eighth grade, at least, like a lot of research did come out about waiting until they're at least 14. Um, but what I also realized in some of my like strong boundaries, which I will stick to, is safely teaching them what to use and how to use that. Um, like Bertie didn't even know what social media meant. And I had, I was like, hey, we aren't going to have social, like that term. Like she knew what Snapchat, she knew what they were individually, but she didn't know the concept social media. So I'm like, hey, we are not using social media until at least eighth grade, and then it's gonna be super monitored. And she was like, Yeah, great. And it was like, oh, she took that really well. And then I got a friend request from her on Instagram. It's called Bertie and my dog Glenda. And because she does have an iPad, and I'm like, I told you an hour ago we aren't doing social media, and she was like, I know.
SPEAKER_00:And I was like, It reminds me of when I gave Clay his social security number and I was like, hey, this is really important. He was like 15 or 14. I was like, this is really important. Don't share it with anyone. This literally will determine the trajectory of like how you're seen as an adult. Did he get a credit card? He literally applied for a credit card that day. That day.
SPEAKER_02:I was like, how do we miss the mark here? What happened? But yeah, to me, it's like whatever your boundaries are as far as AI or whatever, and that's its own episode of like parenting kids. Like, we we have to boundary them, but also teach them to be like responsible people with that.
SPEAKER_00:I would say it is like the more open you can be, and this doesn't matter if it's like your team or your if you're in a relationship with someone or your kids, like talk about the thing that feels weird. If it feels weird, talk about it. If you're not sure what to do with it, have a conversation. Ask your kids like what's happening. And I do think this is something like good morning, America. What is the internet? Where I'm like already embarrassed. I'm not because I think it's kind of like this is where we are culturally.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I feel as up on it as you can be. I mean, I'm using the different forms of it. I've currently an AI assistant that is like going through my emails and helping me, like, and even writing responses, and I get to go in and like kind of does it delete your emails that you don't need? Um it categorizes them. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Would love for it to get rid of and unsubscribe to all of my junk. Could it do that?
SPEAKER_05:But it also asks, like, hey, do you want me start writing some of your radio segments for you? And I said, No. Because I don't.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, good. Good. Yeah. I'm glad to hear that.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I won't.
SPEAKER_02:I'd be disappointed.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I would never do that's that's why I have my job, is because that's what other like corporate radio stations do. It's all it's the same DJ in 10 different cities, and you don't know that because they're trying to pretend like they're local, then they're not. That's what that's why we're different, because I'm writing it and we are here locally.
SPEAKER_00:Well, and you are literally gearing your whole shows to like connect with people about things that really matter to our community and in this part of the world, which I think is what makes you so special and why people love you so much.
SPEAKER_02:What did we miss on on AI?
SPEAKER_05:I don't I don't know that we did. Did we miss?
SPEAKER_02:Would okay. Would you add anything to what we've said today?
SPEAKER_05:I think um we do need to be really careful about the companionship. I because it is already, it's not like, hey, this is gonna be happening. Like the numbers are in the millions of the people that are in relationships with AIO.
SPEAKER_00:That's why I'm so stressed about it. I read the research and was like, already, I'm so stressed because I mean, think about it, Claire. Like, we live our life in such deep relationship with like, I'm not talking about a bunch of people, I'm talking about like our crews, like, we're so tight. And it makes me sad to think that people are exchanging this authentic connection with another human for something that is geared to worship you.
SPEAKER_05:Also, if you're a completely lonely person who is on the edge and you're about to like jump off that edge, this maybe could be not the worst thing in the world for you.
SPEAKER_02:Mm-hmm. I agree.
SPEAKER_05:So I think I don't think every situation is a bad one with it.
SPEAKER_02:I'll just say Do you happen to know, and I know we're probably about to wrap up, but do you happen to know the environmental impacts of running AI? That's not a quiz question. I'm curious.
SPEAKER_05:Um, yeah, it takes a ton. Like they're they were saying, and I don't know the figure, but the word please uses uh just an insane because people say please at the end of their request.
SPEAKER_02:Thank you.
SPEAKER_05:I know, but I've had to stop because it was like, yeah, this uses so much power at these different server places. Yeah. Southern manners. I know.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, stop using your southern manners. And honestly, even then, if please and thank you take away, imagine what the relationship uh element is doing to the energy use.
SPEAKER_02:Melting the polar ice caps.
SPEAKER_05:We're gonna be okay. We have a lot of fish to fry right now. I think, yeah. You'll like you'll like this because you told about the clay and the uh security number. So Lila had to get hers about a year ago. Yeah. I was like, all right, look, write this down because you're gonna need to memorize this. You're just gonna have to use it a lot. And so I like got it out, and I was like, all right, it's you know, 875-224894-05642. And I kept, I went on for five minutes, and she had an entire and she was like, How am I, how am I ever going to remember this? I was like, I'm just kidding, it's those first ones right there. It was just that, but she was like, Oh no, oh no, oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_02:What a dad joke.
SPEAKER_00:Um eventually I'll tell y'all about the fact that I had to call the cops on Clay after I did that. But it was actually just a well, he used my name as well with his social security, and it was like a real, and he was 15 and he was just kind of like off the rails, and I was single mom, 14. He was 14. He was just starting in high school, and I was like, oh my god, this is so bad. So I went down the street and found some cops and was like, hey, can you just come to my house and scare the shit out of my kid because he's off the rails and whatever. Klay, if he hears this, this will be the first time he knows that that was like planned orchestrated, that that they didn't show up. When I tell y'all, he was like deteriorating in front of me, but I just didn't have the tools or people. Or people. I didn't have, I was new to an area, didn't have any village, and I was like just randomly like, do y'all think they were like, sure, we'll come over right now. They like rolled up blue lights like the whole nine. It was great. Sorry, Clay. I needed help.
SPEAKER_05:Are you crazy?
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