3.19 Strong Women - Porch Talk w/ Lindsey Miller Neal

Lindsay Miller Neal thought she had life mapped out—until one unexpected night changed everything. On this episode of Porch Talks, the fractional CFO, entrepreneur, and boxing fitness co-founder shares how grit, resilience, and embracing the unexpected shaped both her personal life and career. (And yes, there's a small audio glitch, but this conversation is absolutely worth it.)

We also dive into the financial habits that help women build real wealth, avoid common money mistakes, and grow businesses with confidence. From overcoming comparison to understanding your numbers and hiring smarter, Lindsay offers practical advice for anyone ready to think bigger, live intentionally, and build a life on their own terms.

Transcript

Porch Talks Series Kickoff

SPEAKER_01 0:01

Welcome to Before You Cut Bangs. I'm Laura Quick. I'm a professional storyteller and I'm writing my first book. And I'm Claire Fearman. I'm a therapist, but not your therapist. Full disclaimer: take what you like, leave the rest.

SPEAKER_03 0:16

Hey y'all, it's Spring, and me and Claire are kicking off a new series called Porch Talks, where we are talking to the baddest women we know. They are powerful in their own right. Anything from Pilates to ringing the bell on Wall Street, going public with a company, moms of four children and still running multiple businesses, interior design, you name it, we're talking about it on the porch, and it is so fun and so enlightening. And they're all listeners. So maybe you could be on one of our porch talks. We'd love to hear from you. But we're glad you're here. Thanks for tuning in.

The Audio Glitch Explained

SPEAKER_00 0:58

I mean mostly girls. It's it's Will checking in here with you. Listen, I want to let you know on this episode of the Porch Talk with Lindsay Miller Neal. It's a fantastic episode. There's some kind of audio glitch, right? Uh, you don't want to know how the sausage is made. Just better to enjoy the sausage, right? And that's what you're gonna do. So you'll hear that people's voices sound different than they normally sound. Like, kinda sounds like they're drinking a little bit. I don't think nope nobody was. For the most part, kinda sounds like they're crying. Sometimes look, may they weren't. For the most part, uh sometimes Laura sounds like Lindsay. Sometimes Lindsay sounds like Laura, it's hard to tell. And for some reason Claire sounds like me. Uh every now and then. As I was like going through editing, I was like, hmm. If I were to be crying or maybe drinking. But either way, I think you'll find it as adorable as I did. And again, the conversation is fantastic. Lindsay is you know kind of a badass. And in fact, at one point, you'll hear them kind of refer to the neighbor doing yard work. Lindsay, you don't hear those in the episode, but she got up and went over and just told them to stop. Which makes it all the better. So enjoy the episode with all of its quirks and play the game of like who is it? Is it Lindsay talking? Is it Laura? Is it Claire? Or is it Claire sounding like Will? And who's crying, who's drinking, and it's all of that happening at the same time. Enjoy.

Meet Lindsay And Her Work

SPEAKER_03 2:30

So I invited Lindsay Millennial here because she's the baddest bitch on it. And you know that because I brag about her behind her back all the time.

SPEAKER_04 2:40

But what I love about her is when Lindsay is your friend and she is in your inner circle, she is the type of person who will call you on her shit in the best way. How glad you framed it that way. I appreciate that. But you're also you have an incredible, you've been a you've had an incredible career as a woman who has a is a business owner who understands being a parent and juggling all the things and who likes to do a lot of shit. I like to do a lot of shit. Lindsay does a lot of shit really well. Do you want to tell people, oh, how it all did it out? Yourself trying to niche it down. Hey, parenthood will do that. See you. But um, I've just been really fortunate. Um, right now I have two businesses, Empire Concepts Group. So we do small business bookkeeping um and a lot of frack CFA consulting as well. And we do it from a frame of like an operator fanger mindset, which is very different in next space because a lot of people are, here's your numbers, how are the day, and don't really help the designers understand how to change the numbers and make them better. And I've just people put a lot of their own money and time into small businesses and with a background in America. And so we just want to give them the rest shot, right? Like it it's hard enough as it is. Um, and then I also, with my very good friend that I grew up with, Lady Jury, we co-founded Battle of Public, which is a boutique in his concept, cardio strain. The free locations now, it's been open for seven years, and it's just it it makes me smile because I get to see like the really crazy cool impact we get to make on people, not just like for longer lives, but better lives. Um, and there's another aspect to what we do too, that it's a great way to decrease depression and anxiety, especially boxing. Also N ZOS started it, just is so on-brand that you started a boxing concept. And in some fight. So there is a reason to channel that. Hopefully. Oh yeah. A lot of people I grew up with are like, yeah, that's probably on brand. Well, how'd you get so tuck?

Amish Roots And Farm Grit

SPEAKER_04 4:48

I mean, I would so I'm a farmer's kid. Catfish, my family raises catfish in my seldom. And my dad was an Amish. So he got excommunicated. This is a longer story for another day.

SPEAKER_01 4:58

But not for a therapist. Say more about that.

SPEAKER_04 5:01

Yeah, I mean, so my dad, his family with the Nillos, with they came from Ohio. Um, we're in the Amish community. My granddaddy came down and bought some land, like with cash. He was a very smart man. He wanted eighth grade education, which is all the Amish humanites have. So this is my business on eighth grade education. He's incredibly smart humans, they're not scared to live. He came down to Alabama, walked up to some people's doors, and was like, Do you want to sell me this land? Like, he had done his some research on it. He sent my dad down. My dad had been excommunicated for like smoking pipe and having a load of cycle, which is frowned a fine and splinter. And his two brothers also. So they were excommunicated. My drinny eventually became a minimite, so he had a car, but was spinning. So like and yes. Amish light. Yeah. So Lucent. Well, they were Amish growing. Uh I never grew up Amish. Yes. Were you? Yes. There's like there's we could talk about all the different types of Amish, but yes. I mean, they were they were real Amish until they weren't anything. One of my favorite things about Lindsay is that this is a barrier she can cross when anybody she can work with men really because she's like, I'll cat I'm catfish farmer. Yeah. Who can say that? Lindsay. Yeah. Like I can build you a fence. I was held out of school to like put new roofs on sheds. Like this is like what our kids need. They do. They should be raised by ex-onish. So you were you were modeled, like grit, hard work, probably gifted some of that genetically.

SPEAKER_01 6:32

And then yes.

SPEAKER_04 6:33

And my mother is not ex-Amish, but was built very similarly. Like is you know, she might have yeah, do it been to like well or yeah, she's still a little badass. Like she's still on the farm, she's probably on a tractor right now. Come on, yeah. You know, my Greenman light, those the Lara hates. That's what her bit of tell me. Just want to be adopted. Like, stew it. I mean, you know, you should do it in West Homeland. I'm sure your neighbors will freaking they're you might need to move to Leeds. Come on out. When the children are grown, I will live on my farm. Um, okay, I I just had to do deeper. But yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:12

Probably genetically, but also it was really modeled for you.

SPEAKER_04 7:15

It was, and I'd say probably like to the extreme. Sometimes I was the first of full four girls, so I really got like yeah. And then the next the twins were like nine years younger than me. So I was, I mean, I really my dad didn't know any other way that the waking had been raised, which was it's it's extreme work and work before everything. So I mean, I would say there's a lot of good work ethic has come from that, but there was was probably overgoing a little bit too. Um, but you know, yeah, I didn't know. And then like, yeah, I have to do hard shit before I could give you something I want. Like that's just this part of.

SPEAKER_01 7:48

I've I have two questions. So you're gonna have to hold on to your new dress. Well, she dressed like you.

SPEAKER_04 7:53

She's like, my I really love Lindsay, and I'm gonna wear the same necklace and didn't I really did I even went home and changed because I had like a split yesterday. Wear these bracelets to say what would Lindsay do? And I'm like, You're right, Laura. Whatever. I'd be trying to dress like Laura all the time, and I accidentally did that today. So Okay. Look, if you could go to the other neighbor and ask them now to stop with them with the leaf flowing, um, that it gives to be a hired human. So I don't Okay, yeah. Two questions.

When Work Ethic Becomes Too Much

SPEAKER_04 8:22

First, is there ever a downside to having that high of a work ethic? Yeah, I mean, I think you talk about things that you have to unlearn in life, especially when I became a mom. So you don't have to be productive 24-7, but I was a little bit raised that way. And I'm appreciative. Don't like, do not get it twisted. I'm very appreciative of that. I mean, but like if I was watching a show for a minute and my daddy topped the hill in his F-250, I would if there was no clothes to fold, I was unfolding shit to find something to fold, right? And I can it served me really well for a for a long time. But then like my my mind and my body could not keep up with that once I had a kid. And so it really put a light on, you know, how how much rest and resetting matters. Yeah. And I wouldn't change the way I was raised for anything, but that's something you definitely have to do.

SPEAKER_01 9:14

Well, I think you made the really good point. So, like when I go back and do childhood work with people, it's not about like bashing. It's like our parents gifted us these things, and some of it we have to unlearn or tweak a little bit for what we need, and mothering will do it to us. Second question, and then I'll half the baton. Um, is there a softer side to you?

SPEAKER_04 9:37

There there definitely is. She's in there. She is in here somewhere, uh, for sure. No, I mean, I think I think my closest cry. Yeah, but it's pretty rare. Like, I cry when I'm really pissed and I can't do anything about it. That's one thing. Two, I I mean, I obviously have compassion. Um, but yeah, empathy is my is at the bottom of my strengths finders list. I think I'm so enamored by this because I'm like, how are we this different? I cry if I don't cry one day. I'm like, what happened? You know, I'm like, I need yeah, about I need more. She has a lot of compassion.

SPEAKER_03 10:15

Okay, I want to I want to ask you some questions around something that I didn't put on the list, but I do think it's really intriguing.

Egg Freezing Plans Meet Real Life

SPEAKER_04 10:22

Um, you were on your way to freeze your eggs at 39. I was 38. 38. Yeah. I've been looking at it for for like a while. You know, it was like I can't be like, oh, maybe, maybe this will work out and I don't have to do all this. And the pandemic slowed that down too. Cause anyway, but yes. I was but go on. What happened instead? I met a man at Moe's Barbecue in Lakeview, Alabama, at Lake View of Birmingham, Alabama. Um he's 10 years younger than me. Beautiful eyes and a very nice ass and a very lovely human. But yeah, so like at the ripe age of 38, I got accidentally knocked up by my three my boyfriend of three months. I think it was maybe three and a half, um, is very West Alabama of me. Um wait, and hold on, let me let it's not the chimney's no Baptist Mama's dream. Let me just say to the thing I love about Lindsay is but before all this happened, you had rang the bell on Wall Street, going public with a company as a CFO. I mean, you had done some big bad shit in your career, and you had kind of decided, like, I still want this. I want a baby one day, I'm willing to do whatever. But then it got funny. He is hilarious, and I love that. No, yeah. How she I'm there's a lot of times where I wish that I'd have had a kid earlier in life, mainly just out of my time, right? But there's so much good that came out of exactly how it happens. Um, I think the Lord was like, I'm tired of you like being too picky and messing around and like this is your guy, and like just in case you think it's not here's a child, and probably sort of do the same thing to Philip. Philip is the oh yeah. I mean, like, couldn't have scripted it any better, but in the moment, it was pretty, it was even at that age, right? Like I've like lived a lot of life. I had the financial means. It wasn't like I was a twelve, you know, 20 years old and didn't know how to do anything. I mean, like I was. I am still in awe that I'm in awe, but I'm snaking what would large. I don't know how the hell you did it. Well, honestly, I was like struggling. I knew it's a Christmas miracle. Well, um it's probably a lot of grit in there too. But yeah, I mean, so but I was still I like picked up and moved my life down on the Fair Hope Daphne line away from all my people with a man that I was like, he might marry me, he might not, and I'm gonna be this dumb B-I-C-C-H that is Capoe live, bitch, that went that move down. I really thought, like, oh my gosh, I'm gonna, he's either gonna resent me for marrying me or this is gonna turn out terrible, and I've like moved my whole life. But it was the first time in my life, probably, that I was like, you didn't try to protect myself. And there, because that I there's definitely some tough party to get through with me. And I did it anyway, and it turned out, it turned out to be great. Like being not around all these other people and being able to be with Philip before like while I was still pregnant before when it was just us two. We were like renovating the house, we're like sleeping on a mattress, we did a lot so fast, so fast, and it would have it was like if it was gonna break us, it would have broke us. But we got incredible close and it was it was it was great, but I was really like in the e-haul. Me and my mom were like going down in the U-Haul. I'd sold my house. I did buy a backup condo downtown here before I left. On the way out, yeah, like I love a safety net, Claire. Love a safety net. Um getting pregnantly. Uh-huh. I I'd probably need that. Thank you. What? But yeah, it was wild. You made all these, obviously, you had some unexpected turns in your story of having a daughter at 39. Yeah. Right? Yeah. And then the Inimperiumopause with a fabriel, almost fabrical, is a real catcher. Well, what do you say to maybe a woman who's experiencing a lot of life change in her late 30s that's just like really unexpected, like kind of a curveball?

Leaning Into Hard And Saying Truth

SPEAKER_04 14:28

I think it goes back to something I've just believed in wholeheartedly, is like you have to lean into hard and you have to kind of meet it head on a lot of times. And and it will it will remind you how resilient and strong you are. I think we're real we run to comfort a little too much, in my opinion. And then we forget our strength. And so when you when you're faced with hard things, like wean in, learn what you can, take time with yourself, do the things that you know center you. Like I I've got to work out, I've I've got to go get an asana and get in a cold plunge, which sounds psychotic, but it's running into discomfort because it it resets me to remember that I could heal it. And I think that's something. I think it's something Leo should the why she says things, she's literally called me within the last couple of months and said, I'm about to say something to piss you off. And I hate these callers from me too. So Lindsay is actually my fractional CFO for my companies and she does not mind saying hard things to people, but it is because she does not mind people saying club picks strapper. And there's something really beautiful about that. But what you said next was you got some mediocrity around you. You okay with that? Because it feels like something you wouldn't normally be okay with. Because I believe when you love people, you don't want them to play in the street. You don't want them to do things that are gonna potentially harm them or what they're they're going for in life. You know, I mean, I say that like you don't want to sit and watch people that you care about be in a situation that's probably not gonna look good for them. And I think it's hard to say. It's probably it's not hard for me to say, which is probably a problem. But it's a gift. And and yeah, but I think that life, I mean, I'm I won't say anything if I really care about you. Yeah. Like so if I'm saying something it's because I legitimate care, I'm also okay with being wrong about it. But I can't sit on something that I feel like someone may not know or may at not have realized and be okay with it.

SPEAKER_01 16:36

It's so wild because I basically, well, not with like friends, but I have to like lead clients to the right answer. So I just watched the disaster and I'm like, then how does it make you feel if it went that way?

SPEAKER_04 16:47

I'm so jealous. Um I'm in all of your ability to do that then because I would include. That's why I have my rights from restrictions. It's true. If I have to like keep things to myself, so your body's not gonna have it. It doesn't like it. It also doesn't like red wine or give Fritz Kiwa.

SPEAKER_01 17:06

I'm truth. Um I know I like I'm a very flexible person, but I'm really having a hard time with the sounds. Today, um am I like overly sensitive, but well emotionally, yes, but not just now.

Why Women Play Small With Money

SPEAKER_01 17:21

Um, Lindsay, what is, if we look through the business mindset, what is the biggest mistake you see with women financially, whether they're a benefit business owner or not? Like what would you, what do you see the most of?

SPEAKER_04 17:36

What I do love about women and I'll sit start with this first, is they're not scared to say what they don't know. And when there's not a lot of ego there, they're gonna learn faster and they're gonna move quicker and they're gonna find the resources most times to to like fill their gaps. So I really enjoy that about right female business owners. I think a lot of times because of because we're women, because of society, waiver raise, whatever the heck, there's a hundred different damn things that go into it. But too often we're we're playing to participate and not to win as women, and we deserve to win too. But you have to go play that way. And I think a lot of women don't even think about themselves in that manner, right? It's it's like I did this thing and it's it's cool, but it's I I don't say mediocracy is not the word, but there's so much more that they could be doing if they believed that they could, and if they were like uh believed in themselves to know that winning could be more than they are they're seeing it right there. So I think it's just an underestimation of how big they can win in sometimes. It's good. And I think you're right. Like I women aren't typically afraid to say, I don't know this, or help me out with that.

SPEAKER_01 18:49

And you're right, it would be more teachable. I just had thought of it through like the business or financial quins.

SPEAKER_04 18:56

I was gonna say too, like, well, one of the things you and I have talked about too is just like I think a lot of times your comparison will get you nowadays. I feel like there's so much there's an op this delusional idea that everybody else has something and you better have it too. And I think like concarison draws a ton of like recklessness. Uh, could you write maybe some permissions let's around living below your means? Yeah, I mean, I think we we've all become could consumers. I mean, that's that's what in everywhere you look on social. It's it's telling you things that you should have or someone else has you shouldn't need. And I think it's a it's a flex to to to live within your means because you're you're we're trying to do something with your life. Like a lot of times we just buy and buy and buy because you think that's gonna make us happy. It's gonna get us where we're trying to get. We're gonna at least look the part. And hell, I like a good pair of sunglasses probably too much. I buy them all the time. It's my thing. But also I know that I want financial security for my family, for myself. I want to build some generational wealth, and it stops me. So I a lot of times put things in the cart, and then I if if I still want them two or three days later, I know people talk under me all the time. I do, I do that, you know, and I think I think that you have to decide what's the bigger goal here. Is it and a lot of times it's also before you buy something, get up and go look in your closet first too. Because I think we just jump to it instead of remembering that you have to be stewards of what you had to get. You do. Let me hear for that big fact. I'm so sorry. No, but I'm gonna sit with it. I think uh I've learned a lot from me. We've been working together for this is horrible, but I'll tell you because I said it in front of everyone that like covered a piece for something two days ago, last week, whenever it was. Um This is more than 500 people, but that's y'all like that. I feel like it. It doesn't, and it's only like three or four of us here. Um when I met Lindsay, I

Big Rocks First In Business

SPEAKER_04 20:59

called her. I had the worst CM boat fault town. I'm convinced he was terrible. And every time he called me, he told me that the sky was falling. Like what he would be like, Well, you're about to be broke, probably won't even make payroll in two weeks, so and I was like, great, cool.

SPEAKER_03 21:13

So helpful. Oh, so helpful.

SPEAKER_04 21:15

But I called, we spoke at something, and I was like, hey, I don't know if you are taking on new clients, but when I called Lindsay, I had it was during it was the very beginning of the pandemic, and I was very scary for everybody's business, but was yeah, specifically mine. I just didn't know if it was gonna make it a magazine. This is gonna buy a magazine in the pandemic. Um had twenty one thousand dollars he did on a credit card.

SPEAKER_03 21:42

It's just normal for us, business-wise. We only had 14 grand in a night. And I'll say, Are you helping? And that year we six figures net crowd.

SPEAKER_04 21:58

You what you gave me. was the ability to d understand my land and the ability to monument. Talk to us a little bit about why that's important for women. I would say all the time we lean into your strengths and hire for your gaps. I think that we off too often want to be everything and and you can't be. One. Two is as a business owner, sometimes you need someone to say I need you to take a deep breath and it's gonna be alright because we're gonna go be X, Y, and Z. So we have a minute we have a minute to breathe. And what I know that you can do is this and go do it and go do it well because you can get so caught up musha and the leads and like the bullshittery of running a business that you don't go execute on the things that make the business go. And I I think that sometimes you just think somebody come in and be like I either I got this or like hey just don't worry about this for a minute. Big rocks. Big rocks. We'll get to the pebbles later. Let's break this down for our friends. Yes. Talk to us about that same advice you gave me which by the way was a lot around like just like knowing how to collect money and like a lot of people weren't paying their bills because it was a pandemic and hell I did all the things nobody told me not. You know like don't be that I was like don't pay us just don't pull we didn't want you a full um which actually ended up working to our advantage but like what about your friends? What your what should friendship sound like in regards to getting your people out of ADs? From a financial standpoint or from anything Anything to me it's always starting with reminding them that they're gonna be okay. Yeah and that they're not in it by themselves, right? And I think that's the same thing with this design it was like you need to hear that it's gonna be okay and you're not in it by yourself. And guess what you don't have to have all the answers today. We do have to do some short time things to to like breathe a little and then let's see how to not prevent this potentially or to fix it long term. So I always kind of triage no matter I feel like what the crisis is, you know discovery really understanding the four of what's going on saying yeah I love belly button's this home or clear babling on and like it's all gonna be all right. We're gonna be okay. And and here's what we're gonna do about it. What do you want to do? And if you don't know I'm gonna help you figure it

Money Anxiety And Learning Anyway

SPEAKER_04 24:19

out. Um because I think sometimes you just you need someone to give you the confidence back. I think it's pretty common in the South money's very private. And so particularly in my family we're very open but money wasn't really openly taught about and I was well compensated for our family's troubles. Like it was like when hard things happen, I got a horse that's a real story. Okay. Um and it was like just here's this you know or like did you feel sad because we can take you to the summit and so I I did not know how to buy a house and I love my family y'all given me so many gifts financial management wasn't one of them. And I I did had my God I finally sold it. I'm like I have kids now I can't manage this shit.

SPEAKER_01 25:10

But it wasn't the horse it's a very expensive hobby my God it's um I should have had a mountain bike or something but that's not the point. The point is I taught myself a lot I'm a one woman business show so I don't have employees but I would even say this for women that are not business owners or maybe they just they don't need to be employed or whatever. I didn't know a lot and I had to teach myself how do I buy a house and how do I do and I have done that and I have started a business I still get a lot of anxiety like I will I have to email Brad my accountant today.

SPEAKER_02 25:49

So um he hates me no he he actually likes me but he's like you poor thing.

SPEAKER_01 25:54

I still get very frozen in fear lots of avoidance around it and it's like blindfold blind blinders on I don't think that's a rarity so like what would you tell women that are more like me like just figure it out or get very scared and into the avoidance but no one talked to them about it. And it still isn't super common at town for women to talk about finances.

SPEAKER_04 26:17

Just finances in general probably and and it's like taxes too right I mean it's like all these things it's why I have a job I guess probably but it's it's sort of like it's sort of gatekeeping. I I mean it really I have found that in the financial space in particular like there's so much slang and like the way thing people talking about it's like this eather real shit that nobody's supposed to have access to and it's just it's just not it. I mean I'm like you you find an expo and if you don't want to find you right I use called AI a lot and it it would tell a lot of the same advice that I do. Also read rich fish. Every woman rich fish every single one hundred percent but I think it's like don't be scared of it because the the more you know the less you'll have anxiety around it and so it's just start learning. Like just just put your toe in the water crack crack the door thing a little bit call me. You know so find I mean and if if you don't live it people don't live in Burning it's find an expert read this book and start asking the questions. Yeah I would say too one of the things that Lindsay really helped me with was I carried all the burden of what the PL looked like for my company.

SPEAKER_03 27:30

And I'm gonna say this just in general a lot of times I find that even in marriages women will carry the burden of the finances. Yes. And so they're paying the bills and they see everything going out and they see the pressure of what's in the bank account or not in the bank account or how our savings are growing and oh my God, these kids are going to need cars and college and all that.

SPEAKER_04 27:52

I would tell you that one of the things that you've done for me is one, you gave me freedom to know like hey this is not as scary as you think it is the more you know the better you can control your future. And then she encouraged me to really make every female on my team PLiterate. So teaching all the women that work at our company and leadership how to read our PL and be invested in it. Like there's something really bold about that but it's also us writing a permission so for everyone on our teams like hey these numbers feel overwhelming but they're not scary if you can have a professional daddy through it. So yeah I think it's it's money in and money out. I mean at the end of the day and then it's I think also you know hope is not hope is not a plan and a lot of times we just are like I want to have this lifestyle one day and you're like work your ass off and wish on a what should we start right and I'm like you I mean I had to tell my husband this in high so he's even me right now probably because I'm like we need to sit down and there play and he's like we are fine I'm like I know we're fine but like you want a yacht like the fairy godmother yeah the the fairy godmother of the yachts is not girls really fuels mean for it but but it's I think so many times because we don't understand it we away it's and I just want to everybody from it's like there's there's people will be like I'm not a financial person I don't get it you you will get it. Well you just need to like pull the curtain back a little bit and get somebody to break it down and wait in that sense and I think financial people make that difficult sometimes because they have the education and they should get they have the education sometimes and accountants ran tax world which is like we work with CPAs but I'm just I I know when to call them but I don't know all the tax laws but I do know that I need to have a plan if I'm gonna make X amount of money this year to pay the least amount of taxes and I know I need to cost by an ask before I do things that's what you say what am I not doing? What we do a lot of times we don't even ask questions. We haven't take whatever we do and financials financials whether it's personal or business they're the result they're not a they and I think that's probably why deep are staring with feels like a scorecard is our next day. Well the big news is Aaron a damn normality you can't change look like we're you're looking deep going into my eyes right now.

SPEAKER_02 30:24

What's wild is we did another interview with an artist and she's more focused on creativity but y'all are saying the same thing.

SPEAKER_01 30:31

It's basically like expose yourself to this stuff get the information and regulate it which is wild and she says you know the artists have some people everyone's is creative but they say they aren't and you're it's the same thing with the financial piece of like I'm not a financial person. You make money become one.

SPEAKER_04 30:46

Why and you make money like I think it's data right that's what Lindsay told me all this is data. Your numbers are telling you a story you're a storyteller you love story. Okay so what story is it telling us how do you want to change the story what do you want the ending of the story to be and I'm like oh I mess you love that shit right yeah bye I'm off to the race later and she executed flawlessly again what needed to be dying to create and but if but yeah you just have to think of re it's it's a refrain you know I talk about refrain for love a cop and a refrain don't think Zach but no I just you're very capable of wanting it and not just wanting it but can I take it okay final thoughts what permissions look do you want to write to and then what do more women you can have not about finances not anything particular

Building A Custom Life On Purpose

SPEAKER_04 31:40

just like I think that the the like the way that you share the highest level of intelligence is creating a custom life and something that keep you on it and I think he all too often didn't think not possible. And we're a little bit scared of the dream or to say I'm gonna create this thing in my life or I mean it doesn't happen every night. Hope this non-strike today but I think to write a policies look to say like my husband says to stop saying yo because the children aren't saying it anymore and he is of a almost a different generation so he says now they say fucky. But like you do only have this this really have a one shot to do the things that light you up and then make you happy and yeah we don't all have a a trust fund that was sick on all this money necessarily but there are a lot of things in life that you can go do. And I think we forget that. And don't be scared to say what you want and then don't be scared to work your ass off to go get it. It's very possible And if you call Lindsay and you don't get her you're gonna get her voice round and it still says like it did years and years ago when I met her this is Lindsay and this is Lindsay Mill and eal. Well and I'm not I'm not available but what's it say then? Roll Todhr if something bad happens you're like roll time I it's it is um it's universal. It is and I said it at my granddaddy's female before the ESPN commercially you know it's true. We said it at my grandmothers too the pastor said that he saw people say roll tied in that at that funeral and he is never even saying these shirt I see and I really appreciated his candy us.

Closing Thanks And Resources

SPEAKER_03 33:32

And I think I know who he was talking to I think we're then thank you for having me super honor before you cut bangs is hosted by Laura Quitt and Claire Fearman and produced by Will Lockmaid follow along with us everywhere please subscribe to the podcast find us on Instagram we're constantly doing polls we want to know what you think and I know that you probably know this but reviewing us and giving us five stars matters more than anything and we are so grateful to have you here.

SPEAKER_02 34:05

We talk so much on the podcast about seeking therapy getting help finding resources I would love to be able to help you with that. My website is up and running and beautiful it is goodgrowthwithclair.com so whether you're in the state of Alabama or not I want to be able to help direct you to the right resources goodgrowth withclair.com