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Walk, Talk, and Take Your Business to New Heights With Founder and CEO of WLTH WLKS Allison Kindelspire
Allison Kindelspire, founder and CEO of WealthWalks and Wealth Collective, shares her journey from medical device industry veteran to creator of two global brands connecting female entrepreneurs through intentional networking. After realizing traditional networking events were merely sales pitches in disguise, she created a revolutionary system for forging meaningful business connections.
• Founded WealthWalks, connecting female founders monthly for intentional walks across six Australian cities and three US cities, with London coming soon
• Built a global networking brand based on the science that walking increases creativity by 60%
• Created a scalable model by matching women so they can meet without the founder being present
• Developed Wealth Collective, an application-only community for ambitious female entrepreneurs making at least $5,000/month
• Explains how delusion about success is sometimes necessary – "You have to have a sense of delusion that it will absolutely not fail"
• Shares how bringing in co-founders was crucial to scaling – "I would never have been able to do this if I would have just kept doing my own thing"
• Demonstrates how entrepreneurs can build AI-proof businesses through authentic connection and community
• Advises aspiring entrepreneurs to curate their social media feeds with inspirational figures who lift them up
• Emphasizes the importance of saying no to opportunities that don't align with your vision – "If it's not a fuck yes, it's a fuck no"
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Hey guys, welcome back to Updated AF Collective, the podcast. I am your host, megan Wirth, here with an incredible, very inspiring guest named Allison Kendall-Spire. She is the founder and CEO of WealthWalks and Wealth Collective. After a decade in the medical device industry, she's now channeling her deep expertise into building two powerhouse brands that help women in business connect with purpose. She recently brought on a co-founder to Scale Wealth Collective, a private, fully vetted, application-only global community for ambitious female entrepreneurs, which I cannot actually wait to talk about while expanding WealthWalks across six Australian cities, plus San Francisco, new York and Fort Lauderdale, and soon London and beyond.
Speaker 1:Wealthwalks is a global networking brand that matches three female founders on the first of every month for them to go on intentional business networking walks in here on Updated AF, you know how much we love networking. Her goal is to build the largest ecosystem connecting female business owners around the world With her signature approach to intentional networking I'm sorry, allison, I'm like stuttering over myself. Allison is helping women connect the dots, leverage their knowledge and build an AI-proof business through the power of community and collaboration. Allison, welcome to Updated AF.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much. You are most welcome to stumble. That's me for real AF as well, so I love that.
Speaker 1:I just get a little excited when I have somebody that I cannot wait to share with my listeners and I just like I get super, like hyper. I feel like I guess, because I'm like I want to tell everybody about you and it's almost like a look what I got on the episode. So I'm super excited. If I read a little too quickly, it's again you guys. I'm so excited to have you on here, allison, so let's just get right into it. Let's just get right into it. Let's go to the beginning. Okay, so you're originally from well, you went to school in Florida. Let's go back to college date, allison.
Speaker 2:Yes, I actually love telling people like my like where are you from? Story, so I have an American accent. Yes, I live in Australia for 16 years, so I grew up in a small country town in rural Indiana, so right outside of Chicago. I got the opportunity to go to Florida state in 2002, went to Florida state, met my ex-husband on a night out, we moved to England in 2006 and basically the rest is history. So as soon as I left the States I was like, wow, it's a big world out there and I started dreaming really big.
Speaker 2:And funny enough, when I was at Florida State, I actually ran a non-for-profit organization. I worked with a non-for-profit called Network of Young Professionals of Tallahassee and I started hosting and doing their marketing. And I didn't realize it then that, like, networking would now become like my life's work. And so I have in my notes section of my phone still to this day. I had this idea of creating this thing called the little black book of business baddies around the world. Like I met so many people at this network of young professionals that I was like, oh, when I'm older, when I'm this, I'm going to need you, I'm going to need to know you. And so, even since Florida State Days I have been obsessed with networking.
Speaker 2:So my ex-husband retired, we moved to Australia. I had a kid, my beautiful son. I met my now husband four years ago. The love of my life, been in med tech for probably 20 years, did the pharmaceutical sales, the med tech sales, climbed the corporate ladder, got all the way to director of sales with a software AI company and then last year we got a new CEO and I just became another number, as you do in corporate, and I lost my consulting contract and I was like, okay, universe, I hear you, you want me to do something bigger. And I started going to networking events and then at these networking events I was like there's got to be a better way to network. So that's kind of where WealthWalks was dreamed up. Yeah, I'll just leave it there for now, but that gives you a background of like how I got here, like all the things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that actually goes into my very first question is what inspired you to start wealth walks and wealth collective? Because, again, like you love it, right, you love going to these networking events and everything. So but like I guess, like what was your first light bulb moment of? Like, I have an idea.
Speaker 2:Yeah, honestly, it was going to networking events. So when I lost my job and then I I was like, okay, I'm gonna. My favorite quote from my business mentor. I met Sean cop in Florida State. He's like it's not what you know, it's who you know. So I always had this idea that I was always going to get my next job based on who I knew not a resume right who I knew, not a resume right. And so I was like I'm going to go to all these networking events here on the Gold Coast in Australia. I'm going to meet someone we're going to spark. You know they'll hire me, I will join their business. Something will happen At these networking events.
Speaker 2:I soon realized they are kind of full of shit. The networking events were almost sales events dressed up as networking events. There was a host on the stage or doing whatever, selling you more things. And then the networking component was if you went to the back quarter to get a drink or during bathroom breaks, and I was like there has got to be a different way to network, Like this is not actually really networking. And so then all of a sudden I was like, okay, after COVID, I'm still a slave to my apple rings. I love that. Now I don't have a real job. So I'm like, can't, I just wear my Lululemon pants all the time? So I have a beautiful I know right, like goals. So I have a beautiful lake that I walk around every day. It's four kilometer lake.
Speaker 2:And little did I know then that I now found a study now a Stanford study that proves you are 60% more creative when you're walking. So I'm out for a walk and I'm like can't we just walk in BizTalk? Can't people just talk about their business on a walk? And so I registered walkinbiztalk at gmailcom and I started asking all these female business owners, hey, would there be something in this like walk and biz talk, like, would you, would you share, like your business ideas and things on a walk? They're like, oh my God, yeah. So that's what inspired me. I was like, okay, I'm onto something, yeah.
Speaker 2:Then on the, then, on the next walk, I was like, all right, I need a sexier brand name. I could see this going really global. No one's going to say walk in this talk. So I was like we're all a wealth of knowledge based on who we were before, where we've been, the partners we've been with, the cities we've lived in the hats we've worn. I'm a mom, I'm a single child, like all the things. So I was like we're all a wealth of knowledge, wealth. Wealth is health, like wealth is business. What about wealth walks? Like we'll share our wealth of knowledge on a walk.
Speaker 2:And then, as soon as I saw the logo written I'm not this fluffy girly pink, I am. I am doing all the feminine things you know we're in 2025, but I'm usually really masculine and so a lot of the networking events for females were also big kink, hot girl walks vibes. So you'll notice the logo for wealth walks is pretty masculine. It's pretty um, straightforward. And then I was like, when I saw that logo, I was like I could actually see that in time square. Like then it was like game fucking on. Like I was like, okay, I'm going to take this brand and run with it.
Speaker 1:I love this because when I became an entrepreneur, when I left law enforcement, um, I didn't know what to do Right, so I started networking it, not knowing the value of it, but I started going to so many networking events. But I also used to record myself on Instagram of going on walks and I would always have like such a crazy idea, like something would come to mind that was so profound, or what I deemed to be profound, and I would jump on Instagram and I would share it and it would literally be me walking around the lake here that we have in our small little town like a hundred degrees outside, but I'm like I have to tell the world and I would like say something that was like so crazy, so outside of the box, but then like people would share, and so that's how I got most of my.
Speaker 1:Unfortunately, the last year real estate got busy, so I stopped doing my quote unquote hot girl walks. But I love the fact that you said also so this is crazy. You said most of your networking events have been very like feminine and all these like girly girls coming in me I don't know what it is, and I'm also very masculine too. I, I, I do like law enforcement. Um, as much as I love having girlfriends, I do love having girlfriends. I actually have more girlfriends than I do have guy friends Cause, believe it or not, I really can't stand men. But all of these now go to where very salesy um, primarily men, like boys club, like boys club feeling Exactly. And most of these networking events I went to were like real estate and I'm like, okay, you know how do you take other people's money and use it to buy real estate? That was like the big thing, right, opm, how do you? You know people's money? And something again hot girl walk I was like no, I don't want other people's money. I don't go to networking events for other people's money. I go for other people's mindset because there is something. Oh, I love that. Right, and I was like that. Oh my god, I go because girl being an entrepreneur is fucking hard and there are so many. I don't want to fucking get out of bed. There's.
Speaker 1:I'm a single mom. You've been there, as you saw. My daughter can just walk into a office at any time and I can't get the crap out of her because that's illegal. I love it, I love it, I love it. I'm like I have to fight to find this false motivation or even fake it, you know. Like I have to fight to find this false motivation or even fake it, you know. And so for me, being around other like-minded women, especially women, or going to networking events with motivational speakers, I'm looking for other people's mindset because that is so contagious. That's why I absolutely adore the fact that you came up with this business model and I just become obsessed with it. So I have another question for you, because there's a lot of female entrepreneurs listen to my podcast and they always ask, like, what's the biggest mental slash, financial hurdles that you had to overcome while creating this business, because this stuff is not easy to create. Did you go through any where you had to get this off of the ground and put yourself out?
Speaker 2:Absolutely. So I think any brand, any idea you come up with, you have to. You have to have a sense of delusion that it will absolutely not fail. You actually do. I know that is it's kind of a trend or it's a meme, delulu, but it's. I was so obsessed with it that I was like this is never going to fail. I just need to keep going.
Speaker 2:So a couple of things happened. Um, not everyone's going to be in this position and be privileged enough. My husband really looked after me and he was like you know, you don't need to work. If you really believe in this business, I will float you for 12 months. So I basically had 12 months to go all in and prove that this was a brand. And I was like look, if after 12 months I'll just go get another med tech job, I'll just. You know, I can do it on the side. So a couple of things happened.
Speaker 2:So wealth walks started when I was hosting events myself. I'd put the ticket out on Eventbrite. I wanted it to be small and curated, so people could introduce themselves and talk about their business. And people are like, oh, what, you're going to let me sell my business? And I'm like, yeah, that's what networking should be. None of the networking events is like oh, you don't bring business cards here, it's not salesy. Well, what the fuck are you actually doing then? Networking is learning how you can leverage each other's connections, other people's mindsets, all the things. So I wanted to cap it at 14 to 16 women.
Speaker 2:And then I soon realized that I couldn't be in all of these cities to host all these cities. I couldn't make it global. So that's when imposter syndrome really started to set in, because I was like this is actually too fucking hard. I couldn't make it global. So that's when imposter syndrome really started to set in, cause I was like this is actually too fucking hard, I'm actually not going to be able to do it. Then I kept sitting with it and I was like what, if I can match women, I don't have to be there. They get matched, they get grouped, they get you know and they can go on their own walks. I'll tell them what to do. So I sat with that and, honestly, power of manifestation is real. I saw a group kind of doing this in a different industry. I reached out to them. They are now my business partners. So two things don't give up.
Speaker 2:And, honestly, it took me a lot to diminish my ego, to say, okay, I can bring in co-founders that know how to do this, give away some equity and I don't need to do it all alone. That I think honestly, as women, we have this chip on our shoulder. We want to prove to the world that we can do our own brand. We can do our own thing. I would never have been able to do this if I would have just kept doing my own thing. So they came in, they brought the tech. I brought the tech, I brought the vision.
Speaker 2:And now it's a membership, a subscription. You get matched once a month, you pay quarterly and you get to go on your own wealth walk in all these cities around the world. So, yes, I am really looking at launching Austin. I literally have a co-founder there now taking content. So, if you're listening, honestly, we want to hit all the major cities that have the high percentage of female entrepreneurs that you know can, can take advantage of this membership. But then, yeah, then we're. Then we're building Wealth Collective, which we can get to in a little bit, which is where it's you can be anywhere. It's not necessarily the walks, it's more of an online community helping each other, motivating each other, inspiring each other and doing the things. But yeah, so the two things is just have a vision so strong that you just are delusional and you don't fucking give up and always think about who can you bring in to help scale your idea and give away equity, sweat equity. Stop spending your own money.
Speaker 1:I like that Again, the power of networking. We are here on earth to help each other. We cannot succeed without help. And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that we don't also provide value to another woman or to another man when they need it to. That's the whole point of networking is saying, hey, you're a piece of my puzzle. If I help you with this, could you help me with that? That's how that happens. Yeah, I love about wealth walks is because one like you. I mean, you just made networking easy, you just made it so easy and all you have to do is just show up. So how do these women sign up? So how do they? I mean, I'm assuming they go onto the website, they sign up and then are they? Are they background checked? Are they vetted? Do they have to be an entrepreneur? What, what? Walk me through the process for anybody listening who has this up and running in their city and they're like, oh my gosh, like I need to do this. What's the process?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so because we only just launched, like two months ago, I'm assuming there's going to be quite a few women. They're going to Google and we're not going to be in their city. And I'm going to ask you right now if you think that this would go gangbusters in your city, dm me immediately at Alison Kindlespire. All one word. Look at the things and how to spell my name. But so right now you go to the website welcomewealthwalkscom. Now wealth walks is spelt without all the vowels.
Speaker 1:And that will be in the bio of this episode. So anybody, everything is going to be there. You can slide into her DM. She's responsive, and then as well as all the websites and everything, so don't worry about that.
Speaker 2:Thank you, so yeah, so basically, you go through an application form. So everyone does fill out an application form and it basically just is trying to make sure that people are female business owners. So if you're a female business owner, you're willing to commit to the time to meet these women and go on a wealth walk, you'll be in. You get matched on the first of every month. So on the first of every month, you get sent an email with everyone's phone number. You just create a WhatsApp group and you say, hey, who's free next week at this cafe? All the things.
Speaker 2:Now, as we grow and get more sophisticated and as we have more women in each city, and as AI gets better and helps us with this, and as AI gets better and helps us with this, I would love to have you get your email. We tell you a couple of cafes to go to. We pick out the walks. So it does take away all the oh, I don't know where to meet them or I don't know, I haven't tried that cafe. So we know there's a few tiny barriers. This is obviously teething pains. It's what we do as we're launching these businesses, so we are aware of them and it will get better and it will get easier. But yeah, right now you just apply it's $45 a quarter, so it's $15 a month less than your standard Netflix fees monthly. And yeah, we are in most major cities in Australia Fort Lauderdale, san Fran in New York. We just launched two days ago, we're going to be launching London very soon, we're going to be launching Austin very soon and the world is our oyster.
Speaker 2:I want this to be like hey, do you want to go on a wealth walk? I want you to see a movie character in the next couple of years that asked their girlfriends hey, do you want to go on a wealth walk? And you know what a wealth walk is. It's that it's an intentional walk between people to exchange knowledge, like that is, like you know, hot girl walks. That's cool. I'm 41. I ain't trying to be on a hot girl walk. My husband's like where are you going?
Speaker 1:I'm looking like a hot girl walk, right, like it's like a business networking walk, saying hot girl walk, you know, because, like a generation you know, so I saw I could definitely be like I need to go on a wealth walk. I can see this at one point being an app. You know how, like you said, want this to be mainstream, you want everybody to know what wealth walks is. I can almost see this being an app like Uber, where you're like you know what I'm free on Friday, let's also see who's free on Friday, and then you order your entrepreneur business. Yeah, oh my.
Speaker 2:God, so good you can see that. Yeah, I am funny. You should say that because my co-founders this is what I mean about the power of networking and leveraging other people's knowledge they, they just launched their app. So in a month, once they work out the bugs, wealth walks will be an app. So watch this space. I know it's like how, how do you, how do you even know this? So, watch this space, cause I also believe that, like Uber, airbnb, I'm obsessed with those business models because they are so globally recognized.
Speaker 2:You just trust the brands and everyone listening Tell me you have not got into the most disgusting fucking Uberber at some point in your life? Yeah, right, but doesn't matter. You get out of that uber thinking, wow, I just really like I just I really could have just died then. And then you turn around the next fucking day and you order another uber. Right, like that brand is so trusted, like you can't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the fact that they sell shit that's not even theirs is also really incredible. Right, they're selling cars they don't even own the fucking cars. Airbnb, they're selling houses they don't even own the fucking houses. It blows my mind. So I have been obsessed with that model for a long time, yeah. So I always wanted so when I was like, oh, I love hustle, I love talking business, I love meeting new people. My husband is like you're such a collector, I'll be in the lift at a uh, an elevator that's an Australian word for a elevator. I'll be in the lift at a hotel and I'll just talk to people, strangers, oh, you're from. I met parents who their daughter is the vice presidents of Garrett popcorn in Chicago, in a lift in Vietnam.
Speaker 1:Just because I decided you're not, just because you're going to start talking, wow.
Speaker 2:So the power of networking. Like I was like okay, so where? So then I thought, okay, their daughter, amanda, the VP of Garrett's popcorn, if she's in another city and I wanted to meet her, or she wanted to meet other business people, where would you go to find other business people? Where do you go to find these like-minded people? So you go to Uber when you're in another country and you need a car. You go to Airbnb when you're in another country and you need a accommodation. Where do you go when you need like-minded I'm calling them, you know, biz baddies, like business badasses.
Speaker 2:Where do you go? Like what Do you slide into their DMs? Do you Google hashtag like hashtag, which I do. I'm a freak like that. I will look up hashtag networking queen and I will find all of those profiles and I will DM every single girl and I'll be like I need to know you, but that is clunky. So I do have this dream that WealthWalks will be a global phenomenon. It will be a global app where, no matter what country you're, in major cities, yeah, you could actually meet like-minded women. And it's like it almost brings my tears to my eyes, like I get goosebumps, like this is, this is when I'm, I'm yeah, it's my life's goal, it's supposed to be huge.
Speaker 1:And the minute I met you cause we actually met on a networking call and you know I was immediately drawn to you and, um, and, and as soon as you started talking about your business, I was like immediately, I was like I have to share her with everybody. Um, because I know this is going to be like a what is it Like a home name, a brand home name or something?
Speaker 2:What's I do? I know what you mean. Yeah, yeah, it's like it's going to be it's going to be a name that people will know in their like a household name.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, sorry for anybody, so bear with me, I know.
Speaker 2:So 830 in America and it's 10, 30 am in.
Speaker 1:Australia.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I love it okay, so I and I kind of brought this up with you last time because when I was at my last networking event, I just kept thinking of you the entire time, not in a weird creepy way. Just I wish Allison was here, because she needs to hear this talk. Okay, so this one speaker I can't remember his name, but he was talking about how AI is kind of taken over entrepreneurs and all of their businesses and all their work, right and he said there's two things that AI is not in touch, and he said networking and community. So he said those are the two things that people will need. They need, there's an, there's always going to be a need for that. It doesn't matter if you're. You know you're talking to chat to EBT. At some point you're going to need to talk to a human being. And I kept thinking of you because you created this insane business that, I feel like, is AI proof. Ai can't touch this. So I want to.
Speaker 2:I want to talk. Ai could improve it, like. I think there's a difference. Right, like AI could improve it, ai can help me, but it can't replace this model. I get that.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, you just answered my next question. It's like I was just going to say, like how are you going to use AI to stay ahead of the game? That was literally oh my God, allison your mind.
Speaker 2:I love it. I love that. I love that. Honestly, I know we're not we're not showing this video, but, like I have tears in my eyes because I get so passionate about this, because when I was building it, I didn't even know that that's what I was doing and I didn't know that we were going to need to think about AI proofing our business. I really didn't.
Speaker 2:This has grown from just the word intention, like my intention to grow. This business is so pure that I almost think that if someone is listening and they're starting a business, if they can really ask themselves the really fucking hard questions like am I just creating a makeup case to sell because I know it will sell and I can make money? If the answer is yes, I think you should challenge yourself to build a business or make something a little bit more intentional, because I truly believe, no matter what business you have, even if it could be AI, even if AI could take it over, if what you're doing is you're doing it with so much intention and you're really coming from the heart and you're really, you know, like you, just you just want it to be. For me, it's just exactly, exactly so. Yeah, I guess I didn't know I was building something AI proof. Until until you actually called me, you're like oh my god, I've been to this event.
Speaker 2:Did you think about this? And then I was like I haven't really thought about it. But, as I alluded to before, I mean people that want to do apps. Now they're like, oh, I don't have the money. Man, there are AI brands that could make you maybe a wireframe, like maybe it's not the best, but there could be an MVP, a minimal, viable product that can show what your app could be to make you go and get the investors and the seed money and the funding. You need money and the you know the funding you need.
Speaker 2:But I truly believe that, yeah, I can use AI to leverage better connections so we can get more sophisticated on matching, so I can ask more questions for the women. Like you know, do you want to be a mentor? Like you're 20 years in business, you might be making a million dollars. Are you okay with being matched with someone that just started six months ago, you know? And then if they don't tick yes, then they're only going to be matched with women in that revenue. You know, like there's a lot of things that I can use AI for.
Speaker 1:Or they want to be elevated. What if that woman who's been 20 years in the industry is like I'm I'm plateaued, like I'm stagnant? Help me find somebody who I don't care how long they've been in it that has another great idea that's going to get me elevated, and I mean that's why I go to events. I, I, I hate the feeling of stagnation. It gives me anxiety, and you need to find other women, or even other men, that it's going to give me some idea that, for whatever reason I come up with and so I mean every single successful person eventually feels like they hit a plateau. So your AI is going to be matching them with somebody else that's going to elevate.
Speaker 2:Elevate. Yeah, yeah, and that's where I really see AI helping businesses like this streamlining your automations, giving you the time to sit and be creative and be a visionary in your business, rather than answering the emails yourself, doing all the things that lean on AI to do the tasks that are being time consuming and taking most of your time. And give yourself that time to be creative. Go on a walk If you're being, if you're feeling stagnant who knew? Go on a walk, you're 60% more creative.
Speaker 1:Well, going on a walk, it just puts you in this trance and it's meditation. And when my mind is clear and I'm not thinking about everything on my to-do list, when my mind is cleared, that's when new creative ideas come into play. I feel like that. It just I need to clear the clutter. So when I but when I'm walking with somebody who also is like-minded, I feel like the ideas are going to be the entire time yeah, and that's so exciting about this.
Speaker 1:So, oh, I was going to ask another question, but you just kind of like answered that one too. So what I? What I want to ask you? I have an answer for this and I've talked about this on previous podcast episodes before. But what are you telling the women who love this idea? And they were like okay, well, wealth walks is not available in my state yet. But what if I want to go to a networking event but I live in the middle of Indiana or I live in the middle of Nevada and there's nowhere for me to go? What would you say to that woman when it, when she's full of ideas, she has this burning desire to start a business and leave her nine to five job? What would you tell that woman Because, again, I love this question. I just wanted to see what you say, because you're a freaking genius when it comes to this.
Speaker 2:So honestly, I think, just okay, a couple of things. The first thing people need to do is curate their Instagram feeds of inspiring people that lift them up, not someone they comparing them they're comparing themselves to. And after you're done scrolling for five minutes, I don't want you to think, oh well, they're doing better than me. And after you're done scrolling for five minutes, I don't want you to think, oh well, they're doing better than me and it actually makes you feel worse. That is the number one thing that I actually did about six months ago changed my life. That's the first thing. So, if you can't get to these in-person super inspiring networking events, curate your Instagram feed to be your motivational. You know a networking event every single day when you open it. That's the first thing. That's a non-negotiable. I think everyone should do that anyway. It's really hard, but I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 1:That's freaking genius. Oh thanks yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, I suffered from really comparing myself. You know I'm 41. I only have 2000 followers. I don't know how to really show up online. So I really struggled in the beginning, like all these other amazing entrepreneurs that could just post a video and then get, you know, all the likes, all the comments and 10,000, you know, a hundred thousand. You know none of that stuff is actually important Again. It comes back to the intention thing, right? So so I started to curate my feed and I was like, why am I even looking at these people if they make me feel bad about myself?
Speaker 2:So I started curating my feed with finding women like you, megan. You are actually such a unicorn in the fact that, like you know, there's the hashtag women supporting women. Right, find your tribe. You could have easily got bitter. You could have easily was like wow, that sounds like it's gonna be a great idea. Like there's so many people that want to shit on other people's idea, because you know that's just the way society is sometimes. But just really don't give up on trying to find the five people you're you know, you're an average of the five people around you that actually make you feel good about yourself when you leave their presence and if you can't find them um in person. I guess this, this is like I'm I'm cheese, I'm getting this big smile Like this is such a shame, shameless plug.
Speaker 1:No, do it girl, I know exactly where you're going. Yeah, I was like exactly where this car is going.
Speaker 2:I was like did you, did you, did you? This is the leading question like um, yeah, wealth collective. I would say wealth collective is like the next, so that wealth collective is this online community that we're building, which is exactly what you just said. Like where do these women go?
Speaker 1:shameless yeah you see I've been interviewing powerful women for a while now. So I'm starting to realize like, okay, you know, like, buy your tribe wealth collective, and that's what I wanted to talk about. I know we're limited on time, but we have to talk about because you believe, if you are stuck somewhere or you just can't get out and you don't know what to do, buy a membership to a mastermind, buy your. It is okay to sign up for wealth collective and go travel with these like-minded individuals. I'm a big, I'm a believer in that.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, I know we've talked about this already Can't not wait to get over and travel somewhere and talk business and do all the things. So. So wealth collective is specifically geared for the women that already have businesses. So at some point we might, we might and I know this is, I don't want to confuse anyone but at some point we might have something where it's like a brainstorming school for women that haven't launched a business yet. Like, where do you come and do that?
Speaker 2:But right now, because of the investment, I guess we want women that you know are not going to put older eggs in the wealth collective basket, but we need someone. So the minimum is you have to be making at least 5,000 US dollars a month and you have to own a business. So wealth collective is application only. We interview every single woman and we interview them so we can make, we can maintain the quality of our members.
Speaker 2:But also, the biggest reason is, if we put out a calling for wealth house which is like these in-person wealth uh, wellness retreats meets school camp, meets business retreat we know that the women that turn up and live in this house for six or seven nights together, that if we've interviewed every single one. We know it's gonna be okay, we know it's gonna be eight women just like us, like eight women supporting each other. There is no gatekeeping. And so the minute we ask these questions on the interview, the minute that we feel like, okay, they're, they're coming in for the wrong reasons, it's just a no. It's just a no like there'll be a thousand other communities out there that will be suitable for these women. We are wanting to cherry pick the best of the best of women that want to help each other grow.
Speaker 2:So, we're all a wealth of knowledge. This is an investment in yourself for you to become the best version of yourself that you know you could be. It's going to hold you accountable to be that person that you know you could be. Um, so yeah, so ask away anything else Like yeah, what else do you want me to talk about?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that only because, like I do have girlfriends that have their little business right and they live in the middle of nowhere, and whether they have a very successful podcast or they run their own sales business or something, but they live in the middle of nowhere and this is the type of community that I'm sure that they would love to be a part of, and I do plan on pressing all of the Wealth Collective and Wealth Walks their way. And for the girl who's like just getting into it, like I said, I always say buy your tribe and if you have, you know you want to get into business, you want to become an entrepreneur. Start like search masterminds. There's so many online subscriptions. Yeah, like that's how I met you. Yeah, absolutely Is met you.
Speaker 1:Yep, absolutely. Is Roberta? Yes, and, and I mean, and I get to be connected with powerhouse women like Alison. That's like amazing. I would totally pay more access to these people. Yeah, so, um, I was going to ask one more question. Yeah, so, um, what is one piece of advice you wish someone had given you before you started both of these businesses?
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, oh, that's a really tricky question. Um, there has to be probably. Yeah, if she would. Honestly, yeah, absolutely. I think it's okay to say no, like like I'm such a yeah, I was just gonna say I wouldn't say that this is something that like, oh, oh, I'm really good at it now. Um, especially starting new businesses, right, I wish I would have said no, um, just do some, some silly purchases that I thought were going to help the business along the way. Like, like you know, I guess, yeah, I wanted, wanted to please everyone. So every time someone gave me ideas like yep, yep, we're going to please everyone. So every time someone gave me ideas like yep, yep, we're going to do that. And then I would, you know, chase a rabbit down a hat.
Speaker 2:Oh, I wish I would have said no, yeah, and just stayed focused. Yes, right, and um, so, yeah, I think that's that's it, but also um, yeah, I think that's probably the biggest thing is like, if you're listening to this and you are thinking about a situation and you need to tell that person no, but you don't have the balls to do it. Megan and I are giving you the balls to do it If it's not aligning, if it's not a fuck, yes, yes. If it's not a fuck, yes, it's a fuck, no. That's actually my new motto for this year yeah.
Speaker 1:So I have this problem to this day because I am a recovering people pleaser and when I jumped into real estate don't get me wrong A lot of people wanted to help me succeed and be my mentor, which I appreciated to this day, because I do believe that everybody gets brought into your life at the exact moment when you need them at that time. But what you cannot confuse, when everybody in the world starts to try to give you their opinion or wants to have you know their hand on your project, don't just not all distractions are opportunities, and that's what I had to remind myself.
Speaker 2:Just, not all distractions are opportunities, and that's what I had to remind myself Say that again for the girls in the back, Like I think that is.
Speaker 1:Not all distractions are opportunities. Some of them will take you away from what you were trying to get, to your end goal. And I have to say that because, like it's happened to me three times, allison, that's happened to me where I'm like, oh my gosh, this is an incredible opportunity, they're going to help me elevate this and that. No, it actually took me the opposite side of where I needed to go. I have back. Then I realized I have to start saying fucking no, like no, thank you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, thank you. Yeah, I'm flattered, but no, thank you. And you, yeah, I'm flattered, but no, thank you. And, and I think I mean I guess I'm still learning that too. So, as we started interviewing for Wealth Collective, I want everyone to be on in this community. So Wealth Collective is, you know, there's in person events. We're doing virtual co working, we're doing monthly calls. It's super inspiring, it's all the things that you want in a community.
Speaker 2:But as I'm interviewing, there are some of these women I actually have to say no to, and that the first time I had to do that was super uncomfortable and it wasn't, it wasn't me being mean, it was just I'm thinking about all the other women in here. And you know, one of one of the questions you know is, like you know, is there intention to help the greater good or are they coming here to just help themselves? And when you start to pick up on those vibes, it just has to be a no, because I'm protecting the integrity of the growing community, you know. So, yeah, that's been a lesson, a hard lesson to learn, but I think it will. It will help wealth collective stay true to itself.
Speaker 2:And you know there's a bunch of, there's a bunch of groups already out there that are killing it. One of them, entrepreneurs Organization, eo. I've had a couple of women come and say, oh, what you're building is just like that. No, I take that as such a compliment. They have like 16,000 members, but it's guys and girls. A lot of their events are really boys clubs and all I have to keep reminding myself is that organization started with one member that started with a dream and a vision, right, and look at them now.
Speaker 2:So, as we're interviewing, I mean we only have three members plus the two co-founders, so we have five women starting Wealth Collective. The price increases as every five women that join, because it's like you know your wealth of knowledge. If you want to give your wealth of knowledge and share that to someone else you know in the community, well, it's worth X amount, right. So we are honestly at like ground level with building what I want to leave a legacy. I want wealth collective to be around longer than me. I want you know to build this brand for women just like you and I, that you know if we could get on and do this vibe and brainstorm you know, three times a month, oh, my God Like that's goals, that's investment in that is it's like I can't.
Speaker 1:Other people are like, oh my gosh, how much were you paying for that, for that seminar? How much are you paying for that mastermind? Like I'm like you know what, like it doesn't matter what I'm paying my ROI on all of these networking events that I go to, and and and what I learn is invaluable. And what I learn is invaluable Because, again, like I need this, I need more. I mean, motivation is fleeting and it's a, it's fake. I don't know it's very fake, but I need something that's going to keep me going, because being self-employed is really hard.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is, it is.
Speaker 1:A former police officer officer being a fucking entrepreneur, and I do believe it's actually fucking. All the time I connect with somebody, whether it's from the podcast, whether it's on a mastermind where I met you, or when I pay a thousand dollars to go to um a conference, like I, always have a return on investment, so so.
Speaker 2:I don't care, I'll see whatever I need to pay if it gets me back something.
Speaker 1:And then I can also share what I know with another woman, because that lights me up too.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. I think you've hit it on the head. I actually wrote an ebook called how to Get an ROI Next Networking Event because I think this is super important and again it kind of ties into saying no. I think if you get invited to things and you think this is a good idea to put on that dress and take a photo of myself and put on the gram, that is not going to get you an ROI. I don't care how cute that dress is, I don't care how good your caption is. You really have to start being picky and choosy, like where I live now. I literally, if I said yes to all of the events that that are here that like, oh, I could meet someone there or I could do this dude, I could spend like $700 a fucking week Just just keeping up with the Joneses for all these events.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I really think, saying no and actually really thinking about, okay, what you have to set an intention when you go to that event. So if your intention was just to get inspired at your Aspire event, nailed it right, you're going to feel like that $1,000 was worth it. If you need to meet a co-founder, you need to meet a web developer, and you know you're going to an event where you're not allowed to talk to the people next to you. You're never going to get your ROI. So I think that you know that to me is super important and that's why I think you know wealth walks is a really good way to meet people, because this is you're going on a curated walk. You're talking for an hour nonstop about business. You can ask them for advice. You know what software you're using, what's your content, media strategy, what's your this, what's your like? People are going to share what they've learned. So for Wealth Collective specifically, we actually give a five times value guarantee. If you do not make five times your investment, we will give you every penny back your investment.
Speaker 2:We will give you every penny back because we truly believe in the ROI. Like I know. If you come in and work on yourself and we curate and we figure out what it is you need to move the needle in your business and we're all using the collective knowledge you will hands down minimum five times.
Speaker 1:I love that, oh my gosh, and I love that. You said you go to networking events or conferences with the intention I? You know it's so crazy. I thought I like invented that because I would talk to myself on the way to networking events and I would say, okay, this is what I want to do. I want to meet this person who does this. I want to meet that person that does this. I want to talk to this specific speaker, speaker and I will do whatever I have to do to make that speaker. So I love. Go with an. That is so smart. Yeah, you have to plan. Otherwise, if you go and you're making it up as you go along, you're you're not really going to get anything out of it. I feel like you have to go with an objective.
Speaker 2:Yes, and I love that. And I'm going to add one more thing to that. So I recently filmed a TV show in South beach called legacy makers. It's going to be on air I don't know next month maybe Amazon or Apple TV, I don't know, um, and so I had to prepare some questions, knowing they were going to interview me, and until I was like, okay, what one? What's one piece of advice that I want people to remember about?
Speaker 2:Going to networking events, and I want to share this with your listeners People don't remember who the fuck you are, what the fuck you sell, but they remember how you've made them feel. So if you go into these networking events with the intention that, hey, I need to meet that speaker, and you know why you want to meet the speaker, so it's the intention, it's the clarity, and then it's energy. So I see it's like an ice method kind of thing that I made up. So it's like intention, clarity and then energy. Don't go up all shy like, go in, like you know, people can feel your energy, we're all frequencies, yeah. So that that speaker got I don't remember that that Burnett's name, oh my God, but she was. She just had the best energy. Right, that's actually. You've won hands down. If they can remember how you made them feel you can, you can slide into their DMs again, because when the name pop up, thank you yes.
Speaker 1:I like drop moment. Yeah, I love that because I go to like I said, I go to a lot of networking events. I think we already established that now. I love the fact that you said watch your energy because energy can also be positive and it also can be very cringy.
Speaker 1:The first time I met Rachel Hollis. She's an incredible author and speaker. I don't know if you know who Rachel Hollis is, but I met her in Austin and I'm a huge fan. I have all her books, I listened to her podcast, and so when I got to meet her, I had already had a really terrible day, up until about nine o'clock at night when I got to actually shake her hand and introduce myself, right, and I've already had a really rough day and I was exhausted.
Speaker 1:I started crying when I met her and I couldn't get two words out and then that was it, and I was so deliriously exhausted. I'm pretty sure I thanked her for her service. I was so and I walked to my car after that and, allison, I literally looked at my steering wheel and I'm like, what the fuck did I just say for her service? Like I was. I was like I thought she's never going to remember me or, if she does, it's going to be like I remember you. In Austin, you were the crying yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I hugged her and I'm pretty sure that was the worst fucking thing ever.
Speaker 2:So okay, but one of those. Yes, they're going to remember the good or the bad, but you only need one of those to be like now. You'll set that intention straight every fucking time you go into a room, cause you're like right, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so watch your energy. Yeah, all right, alison, thank you so much for coming on. Updated AF. Honestly, I can't wait to share you with everybody and for anybody listening and you're intrigued and you want to get to know Allison a little bit more. All of the links are going to be in the show notes. Everything's going to be there. Slide into her DMs. Like not to be good and not in a weird way. Don't do that, but like you have a weird way.
Speaker 2:Bonus points if the weirder, theirder, the weirder slide in the DM, you don't need any pee, pee pics or anything like that, but slide into her DM.
Speaker 1:That's true. That's true, very personable. She'll, she'll write you back, um, and, like I said, everything is in the show. So I, I just like I said, like you're a powerhouse woman and the fact that you've come on my podcast, I feel so honored. I am so excited to share you with all my listeners. I cannot wait until WealthWalks comes to Austin. Oh yeah, girl, the first person to sign up for that one. So absolutely.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much. It's been an absolute honor. You're a powerhouse right back and your listener. They're very lucky to have you.
