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Michael Mabry - Sports Beyond Scoreboards: The Inner Game Revolution
What if we could transform youth sports from an achievement-obsessed culture to one that nurtures thriving human beings? Michael Mabry is doing exactly that through One Play Development, where mental performance and holistic growth take center stage in athlete development.
Mabry shares how the conversation around youth sports is evolving—parents who once focused solely on achievements now prioritize their children's happiness, confidence, and resilience. This shift marks a profound turning point in how we value athletic experiences. Through their "Five to Thrive" approach (think well, move well, connect well, fuel well, recover well), One Play Development helps young athletes build sustainable habits that serve them both on and off the field.
The power of present-moment awareness stands out as a game-changer. Many athletes struggle with excessive future orientation, constantly fixating on scholarships or championships rather than enjoying the journey. "The dream is now," Mabry emphasizes, teaching athletes to detach from outcomes and immerse themselves in each moment—a philosophy embedded in the company name itself: One Play Development.
Beyond performance enhancement, Mabry's coaches help athletes navigate team dynamics, communication challenges, and social settings—life skills rarely addressed in traditional coaching. With virtual coaching options, their impact extends nationwide, having already transformed the experiences of over 4,000 student-athletes and coaches.
Mabry practices what he preaches, using techniques like his "five by five" mental reset and daily affirmations ("I am, I love, I will") to maintain his own mental wellness while building his business. His upcoming book "BPO: Best Possible Outcome" promises to make optimism training accessible to everyone.
Ask yourself: What matters most in your child's athletic journey? Is it trophies, or is it peace of mind, self-belief, and meaningful relationships? Join the movement that's redefining success in youth sports—because the mental game isn't just part of sports; it's the foundation of a fulfilling life.
I'm Michael Mabry. I'm a co-founder and partner at OnePlay Development. I was formerly Mabry Academy, which we started in 2021, really on a mission to change the culture of youth sports as a whole. We went about doing that by providing comprehensive player and personal development, so really teaching young players how to get the most out of their sport experience, looking at things like mental performance, lifestyle alignment, skill development, helping them recruiting, landscape but it's just a big mission to really help young people maximize this transformational time in their lives. And we are virtually across the country and now we have more employees and partners in different regions. We have a really good presence here in Northern Virginia and Maryland. We're very big in lacrosse, but our mental performance programming is for all sports and it's been just the absolute best.
Speaker 2:I love you. What made you want to shift your focus into youth as opposed to like adults? Is there something that maybe, perhaps happened in your life, or something that's inspired you where you were, like you know what the kids is. What I really want to focus on.
Speaker 1:Sure, I think for me, I had a pursuit to be a Hall of Fame coach. I love the relationship building, being a part of something bigger than myself. So when I got out of college in 2016, it was be a Hall of Fame coach. Go in this community, make a massive positive impact and I think, once you see the transformations that can occur with great mentorship and expert guidance, it's extremely fulfilling and enjoyable and it's great company to keep. I really enjoy that time with the young people that I serve and I do feel as if at this stage in my life and how it's been, I'm uniquely positioned to reach them and I feel very strong that that's my A game to reach youth teenagers and college athletes. And, yeah, again, it's a transformational time. So when you see some of these success stories and you help somebody navigate a challenge and you teach them to teach themselves and they're a stronger, more aligned version of themselves, it's extremely fulfilling and rewarding and my partners share the same enthusiasm for that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, speaking of your partners, how many people do you have on board on your team with you right now?
Speaker 1:We're currently five, with a bunch of part-time guys who do incredible work, and we're hoping to scale that by the end of 2025. That is awesome.
Speaker 2:I'm looking forward to you telling me more about your goals later on in this conversation. Now I want to ask you what are some of the challenges or issues that some of the youth is coming to you for, and how do you help them?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I think it's something that we all navigate, which is just the mental game of life, and it's not something that we're formally educated on from a young age and I think that's, honestly, when it's the most impactful.
Speaker 1:So, managing things like our emotions and our inner dialogue, our self-talk, having clarity and broader perspective, so there's a list of mental skills that we teach in our curriculum and I think whether a athlete comes to us and they're already doing well and they just want to continue thriving and growing, we teach them the tools to help them navigate that.
Speaker 1:And then we have athletes who've lost confidence and they don't have a great sense of self and their direction, athletes who've gone through injuries, and all of them benefit from taking the time being guided by a coach, learning what we have to teach. So I think it's a universal experience for all of us how to be the best version of ourselves, how to navigate the challenges that life throws at us and how to live a joyful, optimistic life with confidence and a great sense of self. So you know, there are many challenges, but they're really not that much different from what everybody's walking around and experiencing, and sometimes we talk about it and sometimes we don't, but they're there. So again, whether it's accelerating and having more success or it's getting a better baseline of day-to-day peace of mind and I think that's a big one that we talk about Peace of mind, to me it's the most valuable and the relationship you have with yourself, and that's not a common conversation yet.
Speaker 2:In the youth sports space specifically, and then in the broader landscape, Do you see an improvement, like through your years in the industry and seeing that with kids like that, it's changing, or do you find that it's like staying the same and we still need to break through a couple of more barriers?
Speaker 1:Oh no, I see a great improvement. The one most noticeably is when we started this in 2021, a lot of the conversations I had with families were, in the beginning, very transactional. They were saying this is where I want my son or daughter to get, to help them get this achievement. And then we would explain what we do and the deeper purpose of the mission, and they'd be like, okay, that sounds really good too, but you are going to help them get from point A to point B. And then it's grown into now where, over the years, families I ask them what's the most important thing to you, what matters most? And it's oftentimes I want my son or daughter to be happy, I want them to have a sense of confidence, I want them to be resilient, I want them to be at peace with themselves. And so that conversation has changed. We're attracting more and more families that get it that it's bigger than just one achievement. There's a broader skill and experience that is worth pursuing and being aware of. So I would.
Speaker 1:That's one of the differences that I've noticed over time. And then the other one I talk about this often so many coaches, when we're talking with their organization, about working with their athletes, they'll say, yeah, but do the kids get it? Like, do they enjoy it? And when we started doing this in 2021, they enjoyed it. They get it. They're smarter than we think. They understand that the mind is really at the heart of their experience and they value great coaching and mentorship and they understand that it's a little bit bigger than just wins and losses. Like, let's get a lot out of this, and I just see that more and more, the eagerness, the enthusiasm from the kids that we work with when it comes to oh yeah, I want to study the mind. I want to study, let's work on my nutrition, let's get my communication skills better. They're just much more eager and excited and they get it. And there's a lot of great differences we've seen.
Speaker 2:That's so awesome, that's great that they actually care and they're just like motivated, like I want to take care of myself a positive way, hopefully right, yes, no doubt. I want to ask you about your curriculum, and what does it all entail and what are some of the methods or techniques that you use?
Speaker 1:I think at the heart of it it is connection. So we're bringing on experts who are expert in their craft and in the art of coaching and that's kind of a starter for us. Like we just hired a gentleman who was a longtime coach at University of Virginia and he's one of the greatest in his position. He's one of the greatest coaches in his field and so he has the abilities to connect with a younger athlete and these are great communication skills and listening and motivational interviewing and these things that make a great coach special.
Speaker 1:And then a lot of our curriculum is evidence-based sport performance and positive psychology and we don't teach it like you're in psychology class. We teach it and how it applies to you at this stage, this specific experience you're navigating and it's really effective. And then another large part of our curriculum is the five to thrive right. So the holistic approach. We want to think well, move well, connect well, fuel well and recover well. Every day and when we start with players we do that assessment and we look at each of those five areas that we experience every day and we have just an honest conversation about where they're at, what small changes they can make, and then we help them really solidify great habits.
Speaker 2:And that's what a lot of it comes down to behavior change and lifestyle alignment, got it? So would you say that that's the difference between the holistic route that you're going versus, I guess, the more medicinal one? Could you explain that to me? Like the difference with helping them within, like sports?
Speaker 1:Sure, yeah, so we are not in the space of clinical mental health. We do not diagnose or treat mental health disorders. If we identify any reason to think that a student of ours is dealing with a mental health disorder, we communicate to the parents. We help them find the right help. We're in the business of excellent coaching and we teach mental performance. Now, mental performance directly impacts your day-to-day wellness and your mental health, because mental health is a very broad topic. So does that answer your question there? Yes, it does. So that's our focus and it's very exciting.
Speaker 1:And unfortunately, you know the stigma around mental health. There's a lot of athletes that have come into sessions that I've led and there is a hesitancy. They think it's going to be another conversation. That is honestly a little bit sad and not as strategic, not as uplifting. And then they get into it and they go oh, this is good stuff, this is here to help me, this is proactive, and that's another thing where we really are focused on helping the space of youth sports be proactive. For a long time, mental performance was a reactive reflection to an issue and we're about hey, let's get ahead of this, let's build really strong habits and mindsets so that you can accomplish what you want to accomplish and enjoy the experience along the way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure, I love that. I want to ask you about marketing and what you guys are currently doing to get the word out there about what you do. Are you guys like avid on social media? Are you going to networking events?
Speaker 1:Talk to me about that Our chief of marketing right there, my wife Gabby, is incredible. So we're very active on social, very active on my LinkedIn page, email marketing but, honestly, a large part of our success has been word of mouth. So whether it is a student athlete signing up for one of our lacrosse programs, which is a really big portion of our academy that's our main sport, that's our niche or a team that we've worked with on the mental performance side, they have a great experience. That coach tells the other coach from a different team, that parent. Then you know when one of their friends is saying oh, my kid is dealing with this, he could really use some guidance. Hey, you got to go work with OnePlay development. So we're doing all the traditional methods for marketing and they're working. But if you do great work and you really help people, they tend to support you and it grows that way.
Speaker 2:Awesome If you could give one piece of advice to somebody who's maybe struggling with marketing or getting themselves out there. What would that piece of advice be? And what if they don't have, like, an awesome wife who like takes care of marketing and does that like? What advice would you give them?
Speaker 1:Well, you could hire her. She has her own business on that front.
Speaker 2:What's the name of it?
Speaker 1:You want to say huh, tara, tara, tara thrive yeah, tara thrive yeah. So you could reach out to her and go that route. But I think, on the marketing standpoint, I would keep the main thing, the main thing, which is your relationships. I would really believe in word of mouth and consider that every single person you're speaking with is an opportunity to expand your vision, communicate that, represent your brand and further your mission. So I think that's a fundamental one. And then, because I'm an avid personal development person, your communication skills. You're going to run into somebody, you're going to have an opportunity to have a conversation. You don't know who they are, what their reach is, whatever it might be, if they're a potential customer or referral, and if you can communicate well and clearly listen to their issues and give them potentially a solution or direction, I find that to be extremely effective. So I think really focusing and working consistently on your own communication skills, believing in word of mouth and then hiring Tara Thrive, because Gabby's incredible.
Speaker 2:Awesome, great answer there. And then let's see Mindset seems like a big part of what you do. What are some of the biggest mental challenges you see athletes facing and how do you help them through it? I know we touched on it a little bit earlier, but if you could give me like specific examples or you don't have to say names and you saw them break through and you were able to help them, I think one that's very common with the athletes is we have a orientation to the future, we're very concerned about our plan and our direction and we never want to squash those aspirations of.
Speaker 1:We have this large goal. This is the vision I have. It's actually really important to have that, but once you do, there needs to be a little bit of a detachment from it, because if a player steps on the field and they're constantly thinking about how it impacts their future, it's going to enhance distracting thoughts and it's going to enhance distracting thoughts and it's going to pull you out of the moment and you're never going to really even be there, fully present, enjoying the aliveness of the experience. So one of the things we talk about is helping players move from. You know, my dream is to win the championship. My dream is to get the scholarship play at the highest level and reframe it to. You know, the dream is to play to win. The dream is now to play to win. The dream is now. You've arrived, it's here. If your dream is to play at the highest level, you are at the highest level you've ever been at.
Speaker 1:So I would say we all struggle from this. As human beings, we have a tendency to drift into the future. I do all the time and if we are unaware of it, we're going to miss out on a lot. And then from a performance standpoint, it's really hard to be at your best consistently when you're not concentrated on the task at hand and you're totally absorbed in what you're doing. So I think a lot of issues stem with that. It can then increase more anxiety and fear, and I think when you know that's why we called the group One Play Development, because it's one thing at a time, it's one play at a time, and when we really understand the depth and the weight that that carries, it has a large impact on the way that we experience life and performance.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I like the way that you're like look at one thing at a time, because if you try to look at so many things and juggle them, I feel like you're not going to be able to make more progress, Because you're juggling everything and you're trying to be to like be good at everything. So take it one step at a time and once you finish that, go to the next one.
Speaker 1:We were juggling some things yesterday and we were both a little bit tense about managing all these things. I get it, yeah Right, we're busy. But then we had a moment and we said, okay, well, right now we're actually only doing one thing and those things will come up and get done, but we're compounding the thoughts and thankfully we both you know work on our, our mindset and our way of thinking so we're able to acknowledge it, accept it and then really transform that moment. It was really beautiful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love it. Now I want to touch on this shop that you have. You created a shop with essentials for athletes. What role does gear or environment play in helping athletes show up as their best?
Speaker 1:The shop on the website. Yeah, the shop is more so that people can wear a brand that means something to them, and, I think, especially young athletes today. There's a sense of style is important to a lot of people, and if we can give the opportunity to one of our athletes to represent what they do and to be a symbol to others like hey, this is what I'm about, we think it's a good thing. But, to be honest, her efforts have helped with these things, but it's not something that I'm overly fixated on. Okay, on the shop standpoint, yes, but you know, when I do see players out and about wearing our gear during performance or before just at school, it definitely makes you happy, it makes you smile to know that they really value what you do and they're willing to show that to their peers at school or their teammates on their, at whatever team and event they're at. So it's just a cool aspect and I think we'll continue to, you know, invest more in helping people represent us if that's what they want to do.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, and I think earlier you had touched on and maybe I misunderstood, but you said you were reaching like farther out and in Maryland Do you do like telehealth, I guess?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I wouldn't consider it telehealth, we just call it virtual coaching. Virtual coaching, okay, yeah, so most of my students are virtual. I work with them in person when I'm in that region. So we live in San Diego in the spring, a little bit of time of Florida in the winter and then here in the summer and fall for now. And so I have a bunch of students in Northern Virginia, some I've known for years, some are new. I'll be with them in person. I have a student who's lived in Hong Kong and you know 12-hour time difference.
Speaker 1:We were doing calls at all sorts of time but I believe we are extremely I know we are extremely effective at reaching a teenage athlete and we can do it virtually and to me that's a very big deal In the comfort of your own home you can get together with an expert coach and talk about your sport experience, your mindset, your nutrition, your lifestyle, your team dynamics. And to go back to your earlier question about what are struggles, a lot of it comes down to the social dynamics for those individuals. Oftentimes we talk about specific to the team, but I very consistently have conversations about their social setting at school. So just general navigating relationships, whether it's how to deal with somebody that triggers you and there's friction there, or how to communicate better with a teammate or coach. That's a very consistent one and that's something that you know I can. I don't ever remember a conversation with a coach when I was young about team dynamics, but they play a role all the time how we navigate our environment with others. So very consistent there.
Speaker 1:And yeah, I've got students all over the country. I had a couple of calls later today with kids in California. Got a student in Maine all over.
Speaker 2:That's awesome. So when you're like gone, it's like darn, I can't get his coaching, like what the heck? No, you actually can. And it doesn't matter what time of year, unless you're obviously on vacation. But anyway, speaking of vacation, do you set any boundaries for yourself when it's like all right, this is me time? I need to separate my time versus time for the business. Or how do you make time for family life and being a business owner? Any secrets or tips you want to give? Are you still learning?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would say we're always still learning. The biggest, most consistent practice that I do is a small mental reset called a five by five, and I worked on this after studying a practice called Yoga Nidra, which is known as non-sleep deep breaths, which is basically at the end of a yoga class. You lay down, you do shavasana, it's basically that and it's just pure guided meditation with really detailed body scans. It's extremely relaxing and really kickstarts the recovery process in the body. So I learned that and then I paired it up with a couple other mindfulness exercises. So it's five deep breaths to calm down the nervous system and get present, five things that you can hear right, so to orient yourself to that space, kind of clear the head and get in your surrounding. Five things that you can physically feel, so proprioception sensations on the body and within the body. And then I go to five affirmations internally. So we actually did this in the car before we walked in and then you open your eyes, five things that you you can see, fully oriented to the present moment, much more relaxed and calm.
Speaker 1:So there are times where I wake up and I'm doing a call with the kid in Hong Kong at 5 am and the morning routine is not present, right, and there's times where I'm doing a call at 10 o'clock, at night, 7 o'clock, west Coast time, and the nighttime routine is a little bit off. But I think what really helps me is managing my inner dialogue and getting really present to each session. I do Because earlier in my career, like everyone, there's a little bit of oh, I got to do this. Even though you love it, you're like I love it, I got to do it. And getting really good at managing my thoughts, recognizing that's a little bit too much judgment. I do love this and this young person deserves my full attention and I'm going to feel better if I'm really engaged. So just little micro reminders and skills and strategies that have helped me be more present, find time for recovery. But yeah, I mean, if you're going to start a business, you're going for it.
Speaker 2:Yes, you are.
Speaker 1:It's a serious game and I can't even imagine trying to play this game without the skills that we've kind of talked about. Absolutely it would be extremely stressful. Did you have a coach? I had many coaches, Wow, Not specifically in this aspect, yeah, but I think it's important that coaches recognize that they always are teaching the mental game, and there's a lot of coaches like I don't do the mental stuff, Like I don't know, I don't want to get involved, and it's like no, no, no, your words carry weight. You are conditioning how this young person sees themselves and sees the world and that impacts the choices that they make, the things that they remember, the quotes, the mantras, the sayings, the strategies and skills. So I have a few coaches.
Speaker 1:Coach Eddie Mason played in the NFL and I would say he's a legend in this community as far as a positive impact a wonderful strength and speed coach, but much more than that, and he had a massive impact on me when I was younger. Coach John Costello, who passed away a few years ago another just absolutely amazing human being and he was at Broad Run for a very long time and he taught me about kindness, he taught me about character and that gave me a great sense of self. I wasn't the best student in these areas. I was a decent athlete, but not the best. But I can really focus on my character and my kindness and that was an anchor for me.
Speaker 1:And going back to Coach Mason, he taught me about attention and being present and I look back now it's one of the most transformational moments of my life when him teaching me eyes on eyes where your eyes go, your energy goes. Your energy is all you have. And I was in eighth grade and it stuck with me. So a lot of great coaches along the way and then an intention of studying. You know the greats, the greatest coaches of all time, the greatest speakers of all time, and listening to the content that they're breathing and living and teaching. It's had a huge impact on me. So many great coaches that have done wonderful things for me and others.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you talked about affirmation. What's one affirmation that you like to tell yourself to motivate you, or maybe a mantra?
Speaker 1:Sure, yeah, I go with the big three. The big three is I am, I love, I will, and I just change them up. So I did it this morning. Like I said, I'm going to be attentive and fully present. I love the opportunity to share what OnePlay development is about. I will speak with clarity and conviction. So that's what I did this morning on my journal and so I just go with the big three most times, you know, I think, using that as an anchor and then reading myself and the environment and what's needed. Am I going to get up and speak? Because that's a different set of affirmations. Yes, am I needing to calm down so that I can just be more at peace? Because it sounds different?
Speaker 1:But the big three has been really, really helpful for me for sure, and I think a couple other ones that I go back to. One is everything and everyone is my teacher. So that is a mantra that I go to quite often, especially when things are challenging, and then I remind myself of that and say, okay, I can find a way to turn this into a moment of growth and a lesson learned and improvement, and from that it doesn't maybe take the sting away right away, but it definitely helps navigate and become a transformational moment. So plenty of those reminders and beliefs that I hold to be true and I've seen the impact they have on me, and that's exactly what we want to do for younger people.
Speaker 2:I love that. You live and breathe it. I love it. Practice what you preach. It sounds like you journal it. You do your affirmations. That's awesome. Where do you hope to see yourself in the next five years, personally and with your business?
Speaker 1:Personally, most likely in five years, starting a young family, which would be wonderful. I would see OnePlay Development as a national leader in the player and personal development space. When we started in 2021, up until we evolved into OnePlay Development, originally Mabry Academy we'd impacted over 4,000 student athletes and coaches, and we're only accelerating and getting better at what we do. So a massive positive impact. As far as depth not just numbers, but really really reaching people I can see myself and I want to move into more of the speaking space, specifically at schools. That's the audience that I know I can reach. I have a unique ability to get teenagers excited about the mental game, so I want to be in front of them and helping them. More programs that just reach people. And then books I have a book coming out in the near future and then I got a lot of you know frameworks for the other ones that I want to write.
Speaker 2:Well, you've got some exciting things coming yeah.
Speaker 1:Future's great, life's great, it's great. We just got to work at it.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Can I know the title or it's not, sure? Yeah, it's going to be called BPO Best Possible Outcome. Okay, and it's two things. It's generally a book on the skill of optimism, and it shows how easy it is to train mental skills Using an anchor, like asking yourself what is? The BPO Then allows you to train, you reflect, you use intentional self-talk, you set clear goals, you visualize, you regulate, and so it's both again a broad book on optimism through a simple strategy that is sticky and easy to remember, that actually has the power to go with you for your life, and then also an understanding of wow, like this whole mental game isn't that complicated. This is, this is really just um, simple actions done consistently, and so that's the uh, the direction for that book.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's awesome. Well, we can't wait for it to come out and we'll be watching it and sharing it on our story, so that's great. Is there anything that I have not touched on that perhaps you would like to share, whether it's about your business, yourself, personally, a fun fact you have the floor or that you would want your audience to know about you, your clients or potential people who are inquiring about this?
Speaker 1:Yes, I think that it's time to really put the priorities first, and that is the mental game and our mental wellness and our lifestyle, our relationships, our peace of mind.
Speaker 1:And so, whether someone who's listening to this is an athletic coach of a high school team, a college coach, a player, an athletic director, a principal, a teacher, a parent, this needs to be a consistent conversation around self-actualization for our young people, and I think one of the best ways to do it is to work with us. This is our passion, this is exactly the arena that we want to be in and we're really really good at it. So, whether it is by joining one of our programs and being a one-on-one student group training, any of the things that we offer, working with clubs and teams, it's got to be the priority and that's kind of a call on everybody. You know, I think there's been a good movement of like mental health, breaking a stigma, and now there's a shift to thriving and really understanding these skills and getting ourselves to a better place as individuals and as a community and, hopefully, as a world.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely. And like even for parents to understand that as well and what their kids are going through and how they can help them, Because you had said like, oh, but is my kid going to be able to, like you know, do this.
Speaker 1:Are they going to get to that? And it's just like okay.
Speaker 2:You're missing the important things in order for your kid to go through all these things. They're not just like a trophy or like a goal for you to checkmark. You want to make sure that they're okay as they're going through that process to get to where you want them to be and hopefully that where they want to be.
Speaker 1:Yes, um, so that's important, I agree, and I think on that is, you know whoever listens to this, just ask yourself what matters most. What matters most to you about yourself, what matters most to you about your kids athletic experience? And if you sit there and allow yourself to be quiet, you'll know what matters most. And I feel that when most people do that, when these people who listen do that, it's going to come back to peace of mind, it's going to come back to belief in self, it's going to come back to great relationships. It's going to come back to a bigger purpose.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, let's talk about that more often. Let's get on the same page, right? So it's a question that I ask myself often, even as early as yesterday. A moment of a little bit of racing thoughts, a little bit of this and that, and then I just slow down at what matters most, and it comes back to being at peace, so I can serve others, living out my purpose, expressing gratitude, having great relationships. So I think that would be my message Just ask yourself what matters most and let that guide you.
Speaker 2:I love that, and where can people check you out your website?
Speaker 1:Sure, yeah, we're at oneplaydevelopmentcom. You can find me on Instagram. I'm Coach Mabes M-A-B-E-S, my nickname, coach Mabes, 44. Linkedin, michael Mabry. We have an incredible staff of coaches. I mean really, really amazing people, and that's something that I feel so fortunate to be a part of. I'm missing our team call to be here. I'm grateful to be here, I'm very grateful to be here, but I am like, oh man, I'm missing that call. I'll catch up with the guys after, but, yeah, we have great potential to serve others and we're excited to do so.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely Well, thank you so much for coming on the podcast and getting to talk to me a little bit about yeah same here. I appreciate it, and you're welcome back anytime, woohoo.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much.
Speaker 2:You're welcome.