Episode 22: What If The System Works Exactly As Designed?

A fast laugh gives way to a tough question: what happens when leaders feed sensitive reports into AI to save time? We swap stories from work, call out lazy shortcuts, and lay out a clear line between using AI as a tool and outsourcing judgment. Verification, policy, and data hygiene matter—especially when the fallout lands on real people, not just dashboards.

That lens cracks open a bigger truth as we unpack a viral clip about the Epstein files and a tone‑deaf pivot to the stock market. We connect history’s dots without flinching: early markets rose alongside human commodification, and today’s power often protects profit by silencing harm. It’s not a new story; it’s the same machinery with smoother edges—private jets instead of ships, hidden rooms instead of chains. We also sit with complicity. Retirement accounts and index funds make it easy to benefit from systems we criticize. Growth without accountability isn’t neutral. It has a body count.

We breathe, laugh, and look sideways at a 98‑year‑old who scaled a seven‑foot gate like a pro, then tussle over a viral dating rant that calls a man “sassy” for missing a parking spot. Under the jokes is a serious plea: share the load, stop using labels to shut down nuance, and recognize the difference between red flags and urban life. Finally, we tackle Cam Newton’s claim that a woman’s value drops with each child. We challenge the premise, separate “value” from compatibility, and focus on fit, capacity, and honesty. Kids change logistics, not a person’s worth; double standards don’t make anyone a better partner.

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Thank you for joining. What the fuck? You you just threw me off with that dance. I'm sorry. Thank you for joining the table once again. I am Mr. If you're new to the show.

SPEAKER_02 2:49

And I am long back Willie. That woman D.

SPEAKER_05 2:54

Hey yo.

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Yo. I'm Sean A. I don't want to be nothing else after that. Long back.

SPEAKER_05 3:05

She got you in this one. Willie. You ain't expect that one.

SPEAKER_08 3:11

Um so let me connect Sean. I expected the long back. I didn't expect your name to be Willie.

SPEAKER_05 3:22

Long back Willie is funny. She's like a broke pirate.

SPEAKER_16 3:30

Long back Willie.

SPEAKER_05 3:32

Yo, you can't. Oh my God. It's been on my nerves. It's been an interesting week. Uh how's everybody been?

SPEAKER_08 3:46

How interesting.

SPEAKER_05 3:48

Any any good uh wow, yo, yeah. Oh my god. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:54

My back belonging. Yo.

SPEAKER_04 3:59

She on drugs. Yo, she's on.

SPEAKER_05 4:02

I should be. Shout out to our plus ones. Thank you for joining us. Um I'm coming over for chili.

SPEAKER_02 4:12

No, I'm coming over for chili. I'm coming over for me.

SPEAKER_05 4:18

Yes. There it is. There it is. Um how was everybody's week? Two hands a week. Weekend.

SPEAKER_02 4:27

Go to somebody else first, I think.

SPEAKER_05 4:31

Well, I uh oh, well, my son played his last uh game of the season uh for college. Nice. Well, it's not his last game because they made it to the playoffs. Okay in the postseason, they're ranked number six. Um he he did well in his game. Uh so uh, you know, he's getting recruited to go to another uh school, even though this school don't want to let him go. But uh yeah, he's out of there. That's good.

SPEAKER_08 5:03

That's good.

SPEAKER_05 5:04

Yeah, I and I I think it's the maturity level throughout the school year with my son is is it's it's kind of shining through now. Like you can see he's kind of stepping up to the plate and doing things. It is good to see. It's good to see because beginning of the school year, he was like a freshman. Like, yeah, true and true. Yeah, through and through. Like he, you know, but now he's speaking more clearly, more confident, he's doing more things. Because I just left him out there. I just dropped him off as like you figure it out, you know.

SPEAKER_07 5:40

The baby deer.

SPEAKER_05 5:42

And and uh, and it's good because he was he was out he was injured for a little bit, so you know he was playing like 60%, but he got some buckets up. Other than that, I don't even that was a good show, actually, Baby Ranger.

SPEAKER_16 5:54

Um I remember when I was a fresh man.

SPEAKER_05 6:00

Now you're just an old back.

SPEAKER_08 6:02

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 6:04

Did you say an old back?

SPEAKER_04 6:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 6:06

I leave me the out of this.

SPEAKER_04 6:08

No, I'm a law. You got a fresh back flap.

SPEAKER_02 6:13

The back flap activated.

SPEAKER_08 6:16

Why is it fresh? Like, what happened? I mean, I'm not a judge. I'm not a backflap. It has the beep.

SPEAKER_14 6:24

She called the back flap Arby's.

SPEAKER_05 6:30

Oh my god. Your Bucci name is Arby. That's ridiculous. Arby. On so many different levels. Yo. Ridiculous. Anyway, but yeah, um, I'm preparing to go up to New York to watch his uh Oh, it's in New York. Yeah, his uh his playoffs. What part of New York? Uh I have no It's like upper New York.

SPEAKER_02 6:55

Like upstate?

SPEAKER_05 6:56

Yeah. Okay. Like probably like an hour away from Syracuse type shit.

SPEAKER_02 7:00

We do got some driving to do.

SPEAKER_05 7:02

Yeah. But it's in March, so hopefully it's kind of okay. So it won't be like madness. Yeah, hopefully, but you know, March.

SPEAKER_04 7:09

I like that.

SPEAKER_05 7:09

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:12

But uh good play on your words.

SPEAKER_05 7:14

But it usually kind of gives us a snowstorm in March, so hopefully it's not around that time. So I hope not. That's where I will be. So yeah. Oh, nice. Other than that, congrats to him. Hardly working, working hard. I believe it. I'm telling you, I I these first two months of the year are like the best because it's all short weeks. Short weeks, like three-day weeks, four-day weeks. Because of the holidays, or just because you don't do that? No, because of holidays and I get my Fridays off. Oh, okay. Yeah, but I do a lot. Yeah. I do too much, actually. I believe it. Oh, if I tell you the story about this. Really? Yo. Like, when I hear here go. Right. How can I say this without having them like run it back when we get famous and be like, You can't. Because it's still successful. At that point, ain't nothing they can do about it. So we all know AI is here. Right? Mm-hmm. And is flooding not only schools, but your workplace.

SPEAKER_08 8:15

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 8:16

Right? You got co-pilot, you got chat GBT. Um So, what is your thoughts about? And I'm gonna get into your uh I matter of fact, I'm gonna hold on to this. No, because I wanted y'all to talk about y'all week. Oh. But but I wanna I'm gonna hold on to this. And as soon as y'all finish telling us about your week, then I'm gonna ask you this question. So, how's your week?

Short Workweeks & Job Moves

SPEAKER_08 8:37

My week was pretty good. Um my son had uh his last game. Well, not really his last game, but like he made it to the finals. He's number two. So he's dripping out.

SPEAKER_06 8:49

Oh what my you set yourself up. No, I bet no. Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_02 9:00

You know, you know he uses anything.

SPEAKER_04 9:05

Yeah, he does. He does pretty much. That's true. Yeah. Moment of clarity.

SPEAKER_08 9:12

Um moment of clarity. No, my week was um, it was decent. Um right now, I settled in. Yes. Yeah, okay. Um, for those that don't know, I sold my home and down um sized. That's new for me.

SPEAKER_07 9:30

And um God damn it, I'm so mad. Yeah, nothing.

SPEAKER_05 9:40

Yep, no, I was coming with something, but then you're not gonna be able to do that. Yep, and then you fall short. Yeah. Um like usual. Oh I'm like punchy, the the the ape, the little baby ape with a with that little bear. Anyway.

SPEAKER_08 9:56

So at work, I am going for another position. I'm running for um a higher position as an elected position, and it's been a bit tense at work because I am currently running against my coworker um for that said co-worker's position. And uh he's not too happy about it.

SPEAKER_05 10:19

He shouldn't be.

SPEAKER_08 10:21

Um, I'm not bothered by the fact that he's not happy. Um, but he just needs to grow the fuck up. Yeah, he's just been throwing tipper tantrum.

SPEAKER_05 10:31

There's a reason why you're going for it.

SPEAKER_08 10:32

Yeah, absolutely. So yeah. Um, within the next week or so, you would know. We will know the results.

SPEAKER_05 10:43

Hold up. So it does it is it placed for a vote type of thing, or it does for um our entire uh membership. Um you have to run like a campaign. Yes, currently doing that right now.

SPEAKER_08 10:57

Really?

SPEAKER_05 10:58

So it's almost like a political type thing where you gotta get people behind you.

SPEAKER_08 11:01

It is political, it is, yeah. It's like running for president of the United States.

SPEAKER_05 11:05

Yeah. Well, shit. I I I I wish you well. I pray for you. I hope for you. I really hope you get it because it the right person will be in that position.

SPEAKER_08 11:13

Right. Mm-hmm. Because the wrong one's in there now. Yep. Fuck you. I'm needing.

SPEAKER_05 11:20

I second that emotion.

SPEAKER_02 11:22

Me too. Third.

SPEAKER_05 11:24

Big back billion. Big back billion.

SPEAKER_02 11:28

Kingpin.

SPEAKER_05 11:30

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_02 11:31

Yeah. Toast. Um, my week was fine, you know. Nothing spectacular. Not bothered. Like the first uh couple days back, I was by myself. Oh, because you weren't on vacation, right? And I was by myself. Somebody was out and I was happy. Nice. Yeah. They came back, you know, Thursday. Yeah. Um, I met the new employee. Oh, you have a new employee. You guys remember, did I say it on here, that they hired an older adult for this position? You didn't. I think I said it a couple episodes ago. It was a while ago, when when they first hired this person, and I was like, we need somebody who's a little bit younger, not discriminating against, but for that job.

SPEAKER_05 12:19

For that type of job?

SPEAKER_02 12:20

For that type of job, it's a lot of movement uh of stuff.

SPEAKER_05 12:25

You're a strapping lad.

SPEAKER_02 12:27

Yeah. Shut up. Um and the person's nice. Nice older person. Okay. But they can't.

SPEAKER_05 12:35

His knees don't work.

SPEAKER_02 12:37

You feel like they're gonna last long?

SPEAKER_05 12:39

I'm saying his, like, I know it's who it is, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 12:42

It's funny that it because it is a male. Oh, which is hilarious. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 12:46

I just associate anybody with a male.

SPEAKER_02 12:48

That's our second male in my position that but they came from a different agency or whatever. So like he's gonna last long? Um I don't know about that part.

SPEAKER_05 13:03

Um, I instantly thought about Drop Dead Fred, the movie. He's carrying around a dead body. I don't remember that part. I never watched the whole movie of Drop Dead Fred. I just when he dropped. Just when he dropped dead, and they was carrying him to the beach or some shit. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 13:24

It wasn't Drop Dead Fred. It was weekend at Bernie.

SPEAKER_05 13:26

Oh, yeah, that guy.

SPEAKER_02 13:28

Bernie. Drop Dead Fred was a different movie. Oh, I'm it was about an imaginary character.

SPEAKER_04 13:37

Oh, yeah, that's right. I fucked the whole movies. Yeah.

SPEAKER_16 13:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:45

You know, I had a life back then.

SPEAKER_05 13:47

I, you know, I didn't have a comfort of just watching movies like that.

SPEAKER_02 13:51

No, that means you had a life. I didn't have a life because I fucking knew exactly what movie means. It just sat here and broke the shit down.

SPEAKER_05 13:59

Yeah, I was outside. In the field. Yeah. I was just a pick it away.

SPEAKER_04 14:05

Oh shit. But anyway. Playing basketball. So pick the screen.

SPEAKER_05 14:11

My week was great. Good, good, good, good.

SPEAKER_02 14:14

Nice.

AI At Work: Boundaries And Risk

SPEAKER_05 14:14

All right, now circling back. AI in the workplace. How you use AI in the workplace should be regulated or like should there be rules of using AI in the workplace in higher manager manageral roles? Like if you gotta make important decisions that may affect, you know, a larger sum of people, should AI be your go-to?

SPEAKER_02 14:54

So I don't see anything wrong with people using AI is how you're using it. So if you don't use it properly, like one, if you out here putting personal information and financial information and stuff in the system of AI, like it's not technically protected. So you're putting your shit out there.

SPEAKER_05 15:15

Thank you for that's a good segue, because where I'm going, right? The thing that the work that I do has a is has a broader scale to things. Like who I report to actually reports to some political uh people that's in the state, right? So the information that we verify and do, there's only one stop, and it's that's them. And they they review it and then they make their decisions based on that. So if my superior decides to take a report that I created and just throw it in a AI to create her report for the next level of people, I don't I don't know how uh how to feel about that. Like that's one files that shouldn't be on the internet, I don't think, and to be used to have you know co-pilot break down and create a synopsis of it so that you can just throw it to your boss and be like, hey, I created this report. I don't know how I feel about that.

SPEAKER_08 16:52

I would say I would have the issue if they are using AI to generate the report and not verifying or doing any work to make sure that it's accurate. It's accurate. That's where I would have the issue.

SPEAKER_05 17:07

There wasn't.

SPEAKER_08 17:08

Yeah. That's where I would have the issue because you're trusting that AI is that the AI program is 100% accurate.

SPEAKER_02 17:16

And it's not because at the bottom of it, if you actually read when you go into the system, it says directly at the bottom, this AI is not 100% accurate.

SPEAKER_05 17:26

So the information, all right. Now I I witnessed this because I was on a Teams call and I was asked to create a uh a bullet point report based on the report that I do.

SPEAKER_16 17:40

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_05 17:41

But I they wanted done in 15 minutes, and there's no way, there's no way you can create a report that quick for what I was being asked for to be accurate and stuff like that. I would it would have taken me a couple days. Okay. Literally. It would have took me because I I create the report, I I know the the analyst of that report. So for the person that asked me to do that, and I was like, no, we, you know, I got this report already. You could just use that and create your bullet points and whatever. And he's like, she they was like, uh, can you can it get me done in 15 minutes? I was like, there's no way it could be done in 15 minutes. So she was like, show me. I was like, all right, the report's there. So you just use that report and create it. So I see seen the person take the file, throw it in jack uh co-pilot, it creates the report. She's like, oh yeah, yeah. Matt excited, did it, hung up the phone, sends it, and then confirms, like, that was wonderful. They loved it to me. And I'm like, oh, nice. Okay, I guess I just felt some type of way about that. Yeah. Because I don't think that file should have even been on uh copilot or on in the cloud or in AI, period. So that particular file, I don't know. So I don't know. I don't know how that I felt about that.

SPEAKER_08 18:59

It's out of your hands, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I get that part of it. I understand that part of it. Um nothing I can really do about it. Yeah, I mean, there's not much you can do about it. And I mean, how secure is anything these days? Very true.

SPEAKER_02 19:15

So can I point out something though? Because me and my sister work in the same agency. That is very true. They sent out emails stating to not upload. Like you can use the AI to assist in certain things, but do not upload information pertaining to the job or whatever in there. So I get why you feel the way you feel.

SPEAKER_08 19:48

No, I I get that too. I understand that. But anything on a computer is is accessible anyway, regardless if you put an AI program, which is why I'm like, I get it, but anything can be hacked. Your computer system in general can be hacked.

SPEAKER_02 20:00

Yeah, because people click on links all the time.

SPEAKER_08 20:02

Right. So I do get that part of it, and I think that that's just a really um lazy way that this person is doing things. And yes, they're making the information even more accessible by putting it in that program, yeah. Um, which is yeah, shitty.

SPEAKER_05 20:22

I I I use click co-pilot to clean up my emails the way I I do the same thing. So like I'm like I'm telling somebody to take a long walk off a short hill, uh-huh, and in the nicest way possible, and that and uh you know, co-pilot cleans it up for me a little bit. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_08 20:38

And anybody can hack co-pilot and get all of those original shit that you didn't put in there. Yeah, absolutely. So and be like, so uh exhibit A, I'm like, but it didn't get sent. Yeah, but it wasn't, it wasn't, but you use their property for it.

SPEAKER_05 20:54

Yeah, but uh it's nothing nasty, it's just like it's the original email just taking out the like the the harshness of like you dumbasses type shit.

SPEAKER_02 21:05

So like I never put names in. Yeah, I leave those out and then I fill in a blank.

SPEAKER_08 21:12

I think it's just being lazy because it was very person can take the data and put it into the program to produce the report. Very lazy, but doesn't have to be an actual like file. File.

SPEAKER_05 21:25

Correct. Never seen some shit like that.

SPEAKER_08 21:27

But that just goes to show that either they don't know what they're doing.

SPEAKER_05 21:31

Yes, they don't.

SPEAKER_08 21:32

That's a long list of or they're just lazy, or a combination of both. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 21:36

I can't. I yeah. So I apply for that.

SPEAKER_08 21:38

But again, ain't no problem. Ain't my problem. Yeah, look up on it. Ships fall where they be.

SPEAKER_05 21:46

I apply for a new job in a different agency. Did you? Yes. Uh it's a supervising position, too. So uh good luck. I see where that where it goes from there. But anyway.

SPEAKER_02 21:56

No, real quick. But speaking on this whole AI, chat, co-pilot, all that, it's getting a little out of hand.

SPEAKER_08 22:05

It is, but I said this from the very beginning.

SPEAKER_02 22:07

Yeah, but like, so in my in one of my classes, um, the professor has sent out this long email. You showed me that. And she was just like cursing the motherfuckers out. Yeah, like y'all get ridiculous with this chat. Stop using. Using the chat to write y'all y'all papers. Like you have to write them in some of and stuff. And I got a 245 or two something out of 250. So but um they won't never know you use it.

SPEAKER_04 22:39

Right.

SPEAKER_05 22:41

Because there's ways you can do it.

SPEAKER_02 22:47

What I'm saying is the way you use it. So people are like literally. So me, I'm not letting it write, pull it up and write everything for me. Not saying I haven't done that. I'd be a liar to say that I have not done that. But the information is more work trying to fix the errors that the AI produces because the sources that they give be bullshit. And people don't realize that. If you're not checking that source and you sending it in, then it's like, how'd you get it?

SPEAKER_08 23:16

That's what I mean. That's what I was saying to Mr. It's like it's fine, but you should still be verifying right before you're just submitting.

SPEAKER_02 23:26

Absolutely. So like I will find my own sources and formulate what I say, but exactly how y'all hear me talk on here is exactly how I talk on paper.

SPEAKER_07 23:35

She'll be like, eh, long back willy. And then something long back willie journal.

Security, Policy Emails & Lazy Uses

SPEAKER_02 23:45

And I'll be like, all right, make this flow better because I know I sound like I'm crazy. So, and that's how I use it. Okay. And then even with that, if you're not citing the sort, like if you're not citing that you use AI too, it it because you could cite it and that helps you. Yeah. People don't know that. They be like, mm-mm, I did this myself. But all three of y'all shit sound the same.

SPEAKER_05 24:07

Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 24:09

Anyway. Um it's scary.

SPEAKER_02 24:11

It is.

SPEAKER_05 24:13

So I I wanted to, I know I don't really have a lot of topics up here before we get into your stuff, right? I I asked you a question before we we started was about the Epstein files. Right? I found something. So, backstory. Um I forgot this chick's name. Uh what was her name? So there was like a Bondi. Bondi. Bondy.

SPEAKER_06 24:38

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 24:39

So I knew that's what he was talking about. I was about to say. Yeah. So there was a hearing or whatever, and I guess one of the the representatives who was representing the victims of the Epstein files, they had them all standing like in back of Bondi or somewhere near Bondi, but they was there. And and he was like grilling them, like, you know, how can you let these happen? You know, the victims here, and you know, they was eating people and the disgusting foul things that's found in this fucking Epstein's foul. And Bondi's initial reaction was why are we talking about this and the stock market is up 50,000 points or some shit like that? And I was like, holy shit. Now, when I found this clip, I I wanted to go find that that uh hearing or whatever to kind of get a backstory, but the clip is so breathtaking. And I just want y'all to hear it, and then I want your thoughts on it. Now it's from it's from the guy who played uh what's it you know his name? What's his name? You usually ball head. I think he was in uh I think he was in Oh, um it starts with an M.

SPEAKER_08 26:00

Um Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 26:03

Fucking It starts with an M.

SPEAKER_08 26:06

That's the guy from uh Mortal Kombat.

SPEAKER_05 26:08

Yes, McCab McKay Brooks. Yeah McKay Brooks. McKay Brooks I couldn't figure out where he was from. His his his summary of the Bondi hearing and stuff like that, I thought everybody needs to hear this. Because I heard it from a source. Uh I was actually listening to Joe Button podcast, and they played it, and I was like, holy shit. So I did my little research and I was like, I gotta play this because people who don't listen, it that's our R plus ones, that probably don't listen to Joe Button podcast. I think this needs to be heard. That's so, and then I want your thoughts on it. So it's a little lengthy, but bear with me.

SPEAKER_06 26:50

Nothing wrong with that.

SPEAKER_05 26:51

Yeah. Bear with me. Here we go.

SPEAKER_01 26:55

The United States Attorney General. So the first time I saw her in action yesterday. I mean, I knew who she was, but I didn't know how she was, right? And she got questioned yesterday about um releasing the names of the traffic that violated uh former children whose innocence was currency for power, but not releasing the names of co-conspirators. While survivors sat behind her waiting for the truth. I mean, these these women, these powerful women, these brave women, they picked up the pieces of their own tragedies and stood united in a show of moral courage that no one in this administration has attempted to match yet. And Bondi, instead of answering questions, she attacked congressional members personally. And then she turned to the stock market. The Dow is over 50,000 points. The SP is nearing 7,000, NASDAQ is smashing records. That's what we should be talking about. It was a deflection, so abrupt it felt like a confession. Members of Congress asked, and a lot of us I think asked, what does the stock market have to do with anything, right? And um.

SPEAKER_05 28:01

Alright, now before he breaks this shit down, that was just the backstory of what I was trying to explain. I know I wasn't trying to like I explained it very well, but man. Man, it just gets better. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 28:15

Go here. As you saw, Bondi scoffed and mirrored the question and then said, Are you kidding me? And people, I believe incorrectly called it a dodge, a non sequitur. I don't think it was. I think it was a glimpse of the plainest truth slipping through. A momentary removal of the veil of decency. Because in her calculus, and in the eyes of those who command her, the economy's triumph outweighs the cries of the exploited every single fucking time. Hear me out. Boy, cook it. You see, the stock market was born in the same cradle of empire that track human beings as cargo. As long as the numbers climb, the moral cost is background noise. That's it. And this is no accident of history. It's the actual architecture of American ascent. We rose to power, refusing to see certain bodies as fully human. Now, I mean, I I know a lot of you guys know what the transatlantic slave trade is, but it it it rose to power, it ignited in the 1500s, right? And um, the companies that were responsible for scaling it into an intercontinental uh enterprise uh became so vast, so profitable, they had to do something that no other companies in human history had ever done. They went public. First companies to ever do that. The private company was literally, actually, it was, and here's the crazy thing, it was called the company because it was the biggest company in the world. So people just called it the company.

School Papers, Sources & AI Ethics

SPEAKER_05 30:00

That shit blew my mind right there. It's not over, but from that point when I was like, wait a minute, all of this makes sense now from the transatlantic slave trade to how they were moving slaves as cargo, and we're like three-fourths of a human, or you know what I'm saying? How do you how do you free slaves and abolish slaves, right? So to speak, and still keep some type of company to keep slavery still going without without it being in the public eye. Right? And make and be profitable about it. I never knew that the first thing that started the stock market was a company called the company that was dealing with slaves. Never knew that. They didn't teach that in history, and especially not in my school. So to know that systematic slavery and systematic racism and all that shit that we everybody probably they know is happening, but everybody could dodge around it and stuff like that. It's it's prevalent right there in the stock market. Like the stock market is the system behind continued slavery. He blew my mind with that shit. Shit was crazy. And he and he could he's not even cooking yet. He's like sizzling. Wait, wait until you hear this shit. Now it's a lot, so bear bear with us.

SPEAKER_01 31:47

And it was too profitable to remain private. So the des the uh the Dutch West Indian Company went public in 1621 to fund its empire of extraction and kidnapping. Like today, investors speculated on success. Those who bought shares rooted for the company's victories, even though victory at that time meant more raids, more chains, more kidnapping, more children in dungeons. Inhumanity was not a byproduct, it was the cause, it was the purpose, it was the engine of the machine. Profit required indifference to suffering. And one-third of people who were trafficked were under the age of 15, commodified as labor, property, and yes, sex slaves. In the sugar fields of Barbados, the life expectancy for an enslaved person was 25 years old, burned out by years of relentless toiling and labor and starvation and brutality, and the system just demanded replacement, endless replacement. Let's go, let's go, let's keep moving, let's keep moving. Don't keep them alive, that doesn't matter, just rape them and work them to death. There's plenty of humans in Africa, or as they would say, plenty of niggers in Africa that we can continue to do this to and exploit the precious gifts of God's breath instilled into their souls and usurped them for financial gain. Humans reduced to fractions of profit shares.

SPEAKER_05 33:17

You know what that reminded me of when he said that? The Matrix. It's like it's like the machine's version of systematic, we're gonna turn what y'all we we taking all these humans and making them work for us, they're batteries. Pretty much battery. I know that's a crazy kind of thing, but like the just to visualize what he's saying brings me right there with how machines are taking human beings and turning them into batteries, and that's exactly what they did in this this whole slave sh like he's cooking. Hold on, I I get back to it.

SPEAKER_01 34:00

And that's the genius of the market, right? Turning flesh into fungible assets to be bought, divided, traded, worked to death, and raped. And so now we get we move on to contemporarily to child sex trafficking. And it's the same machinery refined. Eftings network operated in the shadows of that original American capitalistic bargain. And Bondi's slip wasn't a slip, I think it was the mask slipping off. In the praising of the market amid cries for justice, she's revealing the Faustian heart of rapacious capitalism. Sheesh. It's rotten to the core. Endless growth demanding endless sacrifice. Back then it was chains, now it's hidden rooms. Then it was slave ships, now it's private jets. And yet we live in the illusion that these are separate stories: one of wealth, one of horror, one of the past, one of present. And they're not. They're not. They're the same story told in different eras. They're entwined. One sustaining the other since the first stocks funded the first slavers. And today, the same indifference. Trafficked women, children and people of color, the poor. They remained disposable. Epstein's network was no aberration. It was a contemporary echo where elite power trades and silence and innocent bodies. Bonnie revealed that bargain. Growth above all. The market Yeah. I'm gonna leave it there.

Epstein Files Clip Setup

SPEAKER_05 35:48

He killed that. And it's fucking sad. But I think that's the the closest thing to truth that I've ever I'm I we d because there's no there's no something tangible that we can see a touch and say, and say, oh, that is fact. Based on what he said, I'm more I I believe more of that than any anything that's been happening in this world right now. You see what I'm saying? Like, even though it may be an opinion, or maybe based on fact, or maybe based on I would take his word of how things are being ran in Epstein's files, just a a a different version of slavery and the the slave trade and all that shit. Yeah, I'm going with that. I can't. This shit was a masterclass of telling this fucking world. Y'all motherfuckers ain't as slick as your thing.

SPEAKER_08 36:49

But it's been truth in our face for for the entire time. So because everything he said is absolutely true. Um, you know, the whole slave trade, the whole purpose of it was for financial benefit, which is why we were property. Um, which is why we continue to be property, which is why, even based in the constitution, we are not a whole person, still to this day. Yeah. Um and like you said, it just has transformed into other variations of slavery. Now, you know, you have the sex trade and and all of that. Um and Bondi was very much just putting the message out there to shut the hell up and stop crying and stop shining a light on this because we are making out. We're doing better than what we have in a long time because business now is back booming the way that it was at one time because all of these people in the whole group of the Epstein island, all of those power players, all of these people and you harm the economy by shining a light on all of those people who have taken part in this business because they're the ones that benefit from the business the most. And if you're shining a light on these people, you're shining a light on the business, and now you're gonna potentially harm the money-making factor of the business. So shut the fuck up, because hey, we're making money, we're doing what it was designed to do. It goes over a lot of people's heads if you think of like so. What's the difference between a horse and a slave? We're doing what it was designed to do. That's crazy. It goes over a lot of people's heads. You tell me like what the difference is? What's the difference between or or do you believe there's a difference between a horse and a slave? Because people put horses to work in different capacities. And people put slaves to work in different capacities. But is there a difference between the two? I mean, we're the horse doesn't realize the slave or the horse knows. Yeah. The horse works because it knows it needs to be fed. The slave works because it knows it needs to eat. That's the only difference between the two. But ultimately, they're both looked at at the same motherfucking level. You are here by design, and you are here to do a job for us, and you are treated a certain way, and the world has become okay with the treatment of it because based on the work that you're putting in, it is fueling the system that these certain people are benefiting from. And that's why it will never not be a thing in the system that these certain people are benefiting from. And that's why it will never not be a thing.

SPEAKER_05 39:50

And you know it was crazy is as I was watching Joe Biden podcast, Ish said something. Absolutely truly every like single one. He was like, which makes he's like, if that's the case, it makes everyone.

SPEAKER_08 40:04

How dare you point a finger when you're profitable?

SPEAKER_05 40:06

Because everybody got some money in a stock market.

SPEAKER_08 40:09

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 40:09

They made us complicit. I was like, holy shit.

unknown 40:13

How dare you point a finger when you're profitable?

SPEAKER_05 40:15

Yeah, you got a 401k, don't you? It's in the stock market, don't you? You you are part of this machine now. They made everyone complicit. You can't you can't point me out without pointing at yourself.

SPEAKER_08 40:24

Every motherfucking week or bi-weekly or monthly, in order for you to afford the lifestyle that you have. You are a slave to the system of needing to depend on the bullshit that they do in order for you to continue to survive because you need to eat. You are a slave to the system of depending on the bullshit that they do in order for you to continue to survive, because you need to eat.

SPEAKER_05 40:49

The fucking matrix, bro. They're the fucking machines, and we're the fucking batteries. Yes, that's fucking crazy. And I'm not I don't have enough knowledge. I am not a professor. I don't have an but based on what he said and just what the world is doing now. No, no, it's uh it's a whole fucking world. I don't I this shit is crazy. The funny thing is uh it's a whole it it's a s it's still the transatlantic slave trade with other you think Donald Trump is looking at Antarctica or whatever.

Markets, Slavery & Power Unmasked

SPEAKER_08 41:29

And you're giving reasons like there's security number property, like there's things behind what the fuck that evil means. Once you're born to the the bank of the world, the company the company and they borrow money off of you and your number. Yeah, the company. The company, like it's a whole fucked up system, and uh which is why the the the mere fact that things have a value, things have a price, and the value and the price of things are set simply because someone in a certain position decides that that's what it should be. It doesn't have to be that. The same way you go way back then where they used to barter and say, Well, I'll give you these two chickens for this cow. Yeah, they determine that these two chickens were worth the value of that cow. Who says that they're the same value? It's just the people who had a they determined that a say in it or power determined that that's what it was. And how dare you think that it's gonna be different than that? Right. So now we have gotten to a point where the cost of things rise to the point of what they want it to cost, and they're able to keep certain groups of people at a certain level because you can't afford this, because I say you can't afford it because I've now made it to be that this is what it costs, and you only have a certain amount of this in order to afford these things, and so you'll never be where we are because if you're at the same level of us, then who the fuck is working? Right. So you'll never be where we are because if you're at the same level of us, then who the fuck is working?

SPEAKER_05 43:21

It's crazy. You're very true. Yeah, shit, bro. I just I I just found that fascinating. It really it just really opened my eyes.

SPEAKER_08 43:31

That's why when like I think it's so impaired.

SPEAKER_05 43:35

I can't articulate as well as he did, but it's just goddamn, yo. That's why when like to read.

SPEAKER_08 43:41

I think do your research. Don't just take time because people tell you something to be fact. I don't give a fuck who it is, whether it's school or not. It's not a fact. Because we know we've gone through years of school and find out that the history class that we went through for years was bullshit. Years of school. Yeah. And find out that the history of the Right. While they're fighting against uh certain types of history being taught. Especially when it particularly.

SPEAKER_05 44:13

And I wonder why they're they're they're trying to take away history. And all that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_02 44:18

Yep, like Native American taught.

SPEAKER_05 44:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:21

Especially when it particularly

SPEAKER_05 44:24

African American African American. Because this generation, this generation of people are are more willing to put down video games and do more th be more active, be more, you know. You know what I mean? Like they're they're not the ones that they they want to learn stuff. Like the these newer age generation, you hardly hear like it's like they just want to learn some shit. You know what I'm saying? They the toddlers that have the why they in that toddler era who always asks those why questions. What's that video cameras and getting our dirty laundry on social media?

SPEAKER_08 45:01

Yeah. There was a reason why they became such a huge issue. And then they will go look and they will go search. It was informational post it everywhere, and they don't want that. So the biggest platform of information to the masses that they had no control over. Uh-huh. And now they are able to control exactly what you and it was are absorbing from TikTok. Yep. Yeah, somebody. So I don't know if you've noticed there are certain things that you no longer see in your algorithm. Yep. Yeah. Absolutely. And they move quickly.

SPEAKER_02 45:40

And they always updated their terms and policies and all that type of shit.

SPEAKER_05 45:44

Yeah, it was quick to own that shit. We need to get this shit from Japan or some shit.

unknown 45:49

And they always updated their terms.

SPEAKER_04 45:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 45:53

They had Mark Zuckerberg in the fucking court the other day and sued some for some shit. It's like, yo. So the act of free speech and all that shit through. No, that's fine. That constitution is.

SPEAKER_02 46:03

That's what we're here for.

SPEAKER_05 46:04

Yeah. Fucking crazy. But anyway, I didn't mean to take you on like a 30-40-minute tangent, but I thought that was very I thought that was very important for people to hear that that perspective of information.

SPEAKER_08 46:19

Scale on walls. And understand like this shit is real.

SPEAKER_05 46:22

This shit is real.

SPEAKER_08 46:23

So anyway, what's going on other than that in the world today? So we have there's been a video that has gone viral of a nine. Let's go. Let's lighten this bitch up. That security footage caught her scaling an almost seven-foot gate to escape her nursing home in the Shangdong province of China. So this almost a hundred-year-old woman is seen swinging her body over this tall ass gate. Running away with little changes. And she did it in about 24 seconds, they say. That's exactly why. You know what's so funny is because when you said it, I heard it. But it didn't quite register because all I heard was, you know how we have like rated R, rated M M A, rated G. And like now we have a new rating, it's rated 10 minutes.

unknown 47:50

Rated R.

SPEAKER_02 47:53

And it goes 10 minutes. Now we have a new rating and it's rated 10 minutes.

SPEAKER_06 47:58

10 minutes. Oh yeah, I didn't like 10 minutes.

SPEAKER_08 48:03

So sadly enough, it's um reported that this woman also is suffering from severe Alzheimer's. That's what makes her strong. Um she was eventually found near the nursing home by the staff, but people are just wildly impressed by her agility and her fitness level, and people are saying that like she moved better than people born in 1992. Like that's disrespectful.

unknown 48:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 48:32

Well, I mean, obviously, as a ninja, like I I don't see why anyone's surprised. I don't think she probably don't have Alzheimer's.

SPEAKER_02 48:40

She's in there for a reason and she is trying to escape, but they don't have to be a little bit more than a lot of people. No, she has Alzheimer's. The problem is that she forgot.

SPEAKER_05 48:45

She had a past. She used to jump fences, like she probably don't have Alzheimer's. Yeah, she was not Alzheimer's.

SPEAKER_16 48:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:58

Well, when you start putting things together, well, you know, if you talk to certain nurses that deal with rice vegetables, or Alzheimer's patients, that they say they strong.

SPEAKER_05 49:09

Dog flip over the that gate.

SPEAKER_08 49:12

She's a mindless ninja. She just forgot she was a ninja.

SPEAKER_02 49:18

She didn't forget. She forgot she was a ninja. That look back over the fence before she dropped down. She knew what she was doing. She looked like one of them babies that climb up the crib when they sing.

SPEAKER_08 49:30

That's what she was doing. It looked like she wet herself in the picture.

SPEAKER_04 49:34

If you look up close, nobody won't look up close.

SPEAKER_08 49:37

It looked like her diaper leaking.

SPEAKER_04 49:38

She had baby shrimp.

unknown 49:40

That's what she was doing.

SPEAKER_08 49:42

She stood there because then she forgot why she was there.

SPEAKER_05 49:46

That diaper bust. So what did she do when she got down? She was just she stuck. Yeah, and I'm done.

SPEAKER_02 49:54

She looked over to the side. You took my money. She probably bet herself. She had dementia.

SPEAKER_08 50:08

But kudos to her because I can't scale a wall or I can't do that shit. She heard something dong and would try to get some. Is that what they call it? But kudos to her because kudos.

SPEAKER_05 50:20

I can't scale a wall or that's a damn lie, Sean. You can scale the pole with your son.

SPEAKER_08 50:36

Only time that they spoke of it so far.

SPEAKER_05 50:38

Good for you, girl. Just don't.

SPEAKER_08 50:41

She did when she climbed.

SPEAKER_05 50:42

How many times you did that? That was the only time? Because it seemed like she knew what's this? It looked like she knew where she was going. She knew what fence to climb. Very true. What's what? Let me find out. I'll be putting shit in there and I'll be forgetting. But I th I I thought it was important.

SPEAKER_11 51:14

And we going on a date. We trying to do something.

unknown 51:18

I can't.

SPEAKER_05 51:20

Here we go. Let's see. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay. So this person. So I wanted to get your response. I know it's gonna be like this bitch crazy, because that was my response.

SPEAKER_11 51:40

So I get in a car with a nigga and we go on a date.

SPEAKER_05 51:44

A man is sassy.

SPEAKER_11 51:47

I can't find a park. You ain't no leader, bro. Why are you expressing to me that you can't find no parking spot? Get out the passenger seat, whole ass nigga, and let me drive. I'ma back this slab in, bitch.

SPEAKER_02 52:00

She's from New York.

SPEAKER_11 52:01

Oh, it's nowhere to park. I'm like, is there a village? Puss ass nigga. Nigga, you don't know you can't find a parking spot? Ew. Oh my God. That's what I'm saying. That seemed real person. I don't get it. I was saying, man.

SPEAKER_08 52:19

She's talking about her.

SPEAKER_02 52:20

Like, that sounds like firsthand experience. So this is a backstory because it has to be because you missed you left out a whole bunch of information of why you got there. Like, why are you there?

SPEAKER_09 52:33

They're killing her.

SPEAKER_02 52:34

And why are you so bothered that this man did not find a market spot? Like she from New York. Because that sounds like some New York. She she's bad aggressive. She's from Alena. That could be too, yeah. Yeah.

unknown 52:49

She's from New York.

SPEAKER_05 52:50

I have no idea where she where she's from.

SPEAKER_02 52:53

It may be. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 52:57

But the comments is killing me.

SPEAKER_02 52:58

But I I But I'm sorry, but is this a real thing? I'm baffled by what that needs to make. But then again, you never know because right now people is really ridiculous to the shit they be talking about and how they feel about certain stuff. I think this is clickbait, really. But if there's no parking spot, there's no parking spot. Like, what are you talking about? What are you backing into if he's saying he can't find a parking spot?

SPEAKER_08 53:21

Well, I guess I'm trying to understand. So if you're in the car with someone and you guys are going to be a little bit more parking spot. The person driving, yes, rightfully so, is looking for a spot to park. What the fuck are you doing? Exactly. Because typically, like, if I'm in a car with somebody and we're looking for a spot, we both look in the spot.

SPEAKER_02 53:40

Oh shit, there's a spot right there.

SPEAKER_08 53:42

Are you sleep dead or mute? Like, I'm trying to understand what your role is in the car that you get so outraged and upset that this person can't find a spot and you want them to physically get out the car so that you can get in the driver's seat to find the spot.

SPEAKER_02 53:58

So here's this when this is why I say stop missing don't make no sense to me. Because one, she said, get out the car, let me get in the back. And didn't think that it's right, right. Yeah, so like if that's the case, you still what you saying makes no fucking sense, but you ain't gotta be a bitch about it. Like, if he can't back in, he can't back in. And a lot of guys like to protect their cars. Absolutely. So if you know men, you understand where they be coming from. Because I know my husband to pull into the grocery store and park like a mile down. Parking like three parking spots so nobody parked next to it and at an angle. Like, no, anybody took my shit. You know what I'm saying? So that could have been uh a reason why he was like, I ain't backing into that shit, but now you bitching about not bitch, get out and walk then.

SPEAKER_08 54:47

You know there's somebody on TikTok now that um their pages dedicated to going around in Connecticut and finding the people who park like that. I've been watching. I hope they come across my husband come. They like real local, because I've been seeing them in some real local spots, and I'm hollering. Who find my husband?

SPEAKER_02 55:12

Yeah, it's a real No seriously, like that's crazy. Yeah, that's so weird.

SPEAKER_08 55:21

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 55:22

Probably unsack. That's not what you're doing.

SPEAKER_08 55:25

You're gonna call a man sassy because you can't find a real mass.

SPEAKER_02 55:28

She's somebody nigga.

SPEAKER_08 55:29

Right. She sounds very, very aggressive, yeah. Very true. She happened to be with me, and that's very demure.

SPEAKER_02 55:39

Yep. And it's like, nope.

SPEAKER_08 55:41

She was trying to find a broken spot and got upset.

SPEAKER_06 55:44

Don't no, seriously.

SPEAKER_02 55:45

Don't call people sassy because you picked me.

SPEAKER_05 55:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:48

Okay. You know what I'm saying? Like, you knew it, you knew what the fuck you was doing. You knew what you signed up for. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, off the rip when you meet somebody and you get real personal. You chose enough fucking fighting or fake in the funk for you not to pay attention and realize. Like, oh in a parking spot, it's not gonna bring me to that level. Thank you. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_08 56:13

There's more. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:15

Yeah, so it is more to that story.

SPEAKER_08 56:17

There you go.

SPEAKER_02 56:18

Get out. Yeah, it's more to that story. If I ask what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05 56:21

If I ever hear anybody complaining about it, that nigga slept with her brother. Yeah, fuck out.

SPEAKER_08 56:27

Or she slept with her brother and was mad. Her brother.

SPEAKER_05 56:29

Go look for one. Let me know where you find it.

unknown 56:32

That nigga slept with her brother.

SPEAKER_05 56:35

That was ridiculous.

SPEAKER_02 56:36

That was absolutely ridiculous.

SPEAKER_08 56:40

So good old Cam Newton.

SPEAKER_05 56:41

But yeah, I put that in there because I thought that was ridiculous.

SPEAKER_08 56:45

So he um was on his podcast uh recently, and his conversation pertained to the fact that he believes that a woman's value decreases the more children that they have.

SPEAKER_02 56:59

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_08 57:04

Mr. I love to your facial expression. I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.

SPEAKER_02 57:09

That's probably a lot of men's thoughts, though. I ain't even gonna hold you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 57:13

I was gonna say, I uh I think that a lot of men's people think that way.

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SPEAKER_02 57:18

Now wait, here's my question because I didn't hear what he said, right? So I wanna do I want to know first like the context behind it because is it, you know, say the woman was in a relationship, married or whatever with one person and had all those kids by that one person, or is he going by how many baby daddies she may have for each kid? You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 57:45

If we're talking about hierarchy, you've been with your husband how many years?

SPEAKER_00 57:50

Not that many. We knew.

SPEAKER_10 57:53

Let's find out.

SPEAKER_00 57:54

We went friend to fiance. Let's say six months.

SPEAKER_10 57:57

Okay, cool. Six months. Well, what if you had a three-year-old? You still gonna choose your fiance to be a three-year-old?

SPEAKER_00 58:06

Is it his is it his baby?

SPEAKER_10 58:08

It don't matter who it is.

SPEAKER_00 58:09

I mean, it really doesn't matter. You're right. I'm still gonna I'm I'm not choosing a fiance, I'm choosing my husband.

SPEAKER_10 58:14

Because look look this is what I want you to understand. Yes, you've been married for six months, right? That child has been in your life for three years. Three years and nine months. The hierarchy there is like, yo, I've it's my responsibility to nurture this.

SPEAKER_00 58:33

I gotta ask you a question because for me, that's really hard for me to even wrap my mind around because I won't be baby mama without a commitment of marriage. So I it's hard for me to wrap my mind around having a three-year-old and then having a new man. Now I know that that happens every single day, and there is no right or wrong way. But so my this is my question. Do you feel like women's value gets lowered when they have multiple children by multiple men?

SPEAKER_10 59:07

I just think that the the reality of that answer is women's value get lower the more children that they have. Break that down. Because and I was having this conversation, you know, with one of the mothers of my children, and she's still fine. You know what I'm saying? But like I was telling her, I was like, yo, the guy that you're dating or will date, if he ain't willing to love on these five children that you have, that ain't the guy for you.

SPEAKER_02 59:43

Because But I don't think that drops the value. Well, in a man's eyes, it may be different, but as my understanding, it I don't think it is it teeth though.

unknown 59:56

Well, in a man's eyes.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:02

He's saying he's saying if I'm if if I am attracted to a female, right, and I am I'm willing to go out on a with the person and whatever, and then she drops the bomb like I got three kids, it makes me look at the relationship a little different. It it decreases the value or decreases the the I guess I can understand that because again, y'all know I'm biased. I now have to step into this relationship and take on all of them.

unknown 1:00:33

I guess I can understand that.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:35

Yeah. So I I I I understand that.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:40

So his value decreased because he has changed you anything with the person, or it decreases you wanting to further it to where it may go to potential marriage. Like, does it stop it altogether? Like, I'm not even about to date your ass. Like it may go to potential marriage.

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SPEAKER_05 1:01:01

It decreases. I think it decreases all I'm not even about to date your ass. So for some men, that probably won't bother them. Yeah. Right? Because if they are into you and it accepts the children, then they have no issue with that. I would say the majority of dudes though, who they they don't even want to fuck with their own kids. Yeah. Yeah, I'm saying. So now I'm I'm fucking with you because I want to fuck with you, but then I don't want to take the owner responsibility of your kids either. So it the it decreases on the the chance of it going further, especially for her, because now she might be looking at it like, oh, he might be the one. And he's like, I'm just the one for the night. You know what I mean? I'm not trying to take on that responsibility either. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:50

Yeah, I guess.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:53

Value. You know what I mean? Because value could be simple to say a woman's value is a good thing.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:00

But I think this case actually the value of the relationship decreases because there's children involved.

unknown 1:02:05

Yeah, the value of the relationship.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:06

If a man sees you and sees, hey, this woman's attractive, she has all the features I'm looking for, she has all the characteristics that I'm looking for, she seems morally uh right. This is somebody that I want to invest my time into getting to know. And then you hear mama.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:30

But this bitch lost brownie pants.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:37

And it's like I got right, right. There's baby daddies I gotta do.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:46

There's a lot of things that we value.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:50

Or like more work.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:51

Basically, more work that I gotta put in, and I don't even know if this is truly something that I want.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:56

Yeah, I understand that that then that way.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:59

I'd rather I prefer a clean slate, is what is basically what I put in, and I don't even know if this is truly something that I want to do.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:05

Right. Yeah, and I'd rather a clean slate. Yeah, you gotta put a lot of people. And some people are okay putting in the work, but there's a lot of people who something like that. Now I was like, does it matter to you?

SPEAKER_08 1:03:18

The female has more than one kid. Yeah. Now I would say those. But they're not the ones that take care of them. So like they got three kids, but the custody is with the fathers.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:34

But they're not the ones that have been.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:35

I was about to say, can I answer that as a man? Because have kids of your own.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:42

I think that devalues too. Because you stuck with the babies. Because now if I'm coming in there and looking to have a have a family, like if you know what I'm saying, and then you're not even looking at your own, like stuck with the babies. Yeah, so there's it's like the world reversing that.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:59

Because that's how women will look at don't invest their time and energy into their own kids, but they politely invest their time and energy. They come to value that woman more than they did the others.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:13

Very true.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:18

But no, but I think even though they're they're more inclined sometimes to have.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:23

Them kids ain't going with him with this one and put in an investment. It's because even though they earned shit daddy for the other ones.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:32

But have a but even still, sometimes. But even still, sometimes you have to realize too, like that they have maybe a kid. The relationship, like maybe he might have at some point tried, but she's being extremely difficult, and you have a lot of them that are being extrem extremely difficult because they still harbor that hurt or pain that that person may have caused, and now you affecting your kids with it. So when it comes down to it, like, yo, I'm trying to get to this, and it's you blaming him, but at the end of the day, it's not he's not the problem.

unknown 1:05:11

When it comes down to it, like, yo, I'm trying to get to this.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:18

Yo, I got I got a couple right now who who had children by different baby mothers, but found the one and and take care of his kids and her kids and their kids together. Like, yeah, it's like so it's possible. Like, it's you know, it love m does amazing things at the at the most amazing times when you don't even expect it. So, you know, when you when you find the person, you're you're willing to take on these these these uh responsibilities, you don't think twice about it.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:47

That's why I was curious if it matters. Whatever life you live before her wasn't the primary it happened.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:53

You you take care of what you can take care of, but for y'all just picked up as well.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:56

Does it matter to you at that point then? I think it works for whoever it works for. Very true. Yeah, parents for those kids. Does it matter to you at that point then? I think it works for people who are. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:10

Yeah, I think that really depends more than that. They don't have their it's kind of a vague answer, but people are who they are. You know what I mean? So they really depend more on why. Yeah, I think it's a I think it's a combination of everything. You know, I if you I I think dudes go into relationships looking at the benefits of how it could change their lives. Because I I think we have this thing where we we we we I know what you're talking about. Um we have this thing where either either you are you are type of man that has done well for themselves and now is looking for a partner. Right? And somebody who can increase the value of you together. You know, a man wants to get better by the partner he brings in, you know what I'm saying? So they could go to go to the same place. Then you got those that don't know know how to take care of themselves or not as successful as those kind of type of dudes, so they look for somebody that they help them build together. That's like stuff like that. And then you got the dudes that just don't give a shit. So they look at those women be like, yo, you're you're just a good warm house I can stay at. And I can be you know what I'm saying? So it depends on the person, and it depends now that that that guy might find true love somewhere and then want to turn his life around. And it's because of her, the value that she brings, and the experience that she brings that can pick this man up and do something. But would woman want to go through all that effort?

Dating Debate: Parking And “Sassy”

SPEAKER_08 1:07:48

I I think it's interesting, and I I I think it's interesting more so just for me because when we start to place value on people with the um thought that somehow we are bringing value ourselves. Yeah. And it's like, well, oh yeah, because when you place value and start to devalue someone based on certain scenarios, yeah, and all your shit ain't together. Because when you Right, or it's like, how dare you, you hypocritical ass. Like it's like you could bring it into about it. You could have three kids with three baby mothers, but you devaluing this woman for having multiple kids. If I find a woman who's got a partner make it make sense for real three baby mothers, but you devaluing this woman for having while she's devaluing you because you can't find a spy.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:48

I I would absolutely devalue that.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:50

Now you devalue her more because you don't even have a car to find the spy. Exactly. But you even value you even more because you don't even have a legal license to drive the car. It's just like it's like you devalue that motherfucking Honda.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:06

No insurance, nothing. That's why you won't back the bitch. Oh my god, that's messy. That really is. Can we just do a quick moment of silence for Reverend Jesse Jackson? Jesse and Robert DeVall. Jesse. The actor from John Q, The Godfather. What? Oh, yes. Wow. Um, Reverend Jesse Jackson was 84, and Robert Duval was 95 when they passed.

unknown 1:09:42

Um Reverend Jesse Jackson was 95. Critical Jesse Jackson.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:50

Yeah. Yeah, man. He was he was uh critical in a lot of movements, Jesse Jackson. I I don't know too much. Um I know of him, I know of the things that he's done, but as a young kid when he was more prevalent, I wasn't paying attention. You know what I mean? Um he he was he was doing a lot of things when I was young. So I got a point. Was not one of the most important things I wanted to pay attention to. So but he did some important things, so you know, rest in peace.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:28

So we have four entertainers. And if you loaned one of these ladies money, which one do you predict would not pay you back? We have Miss Mariah Carey, Queen of Christmas, we have the Bayesian princess, Miss Rihanna, we have the pop icon Diva Beyoncé, and we have the Hood RB Queen, Mary J. Blige. Which one of these ladies, if you loaned money to, would you predict would not pay you back?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:09

Nene? I can hate you. Because I was gonna say Mariah Carey.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:14

And before I say my I want to know why you chose Mariah Carey.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:23

And before I say my nerves.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:29

First of all, um, I trust Bayesians. Bajan, Bayesian woman will be true to her word.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:37

Um Rihanna was gonna pay that money back, especially if it was a person that she really, really gives a shit about. I'll pay your money and call it a bigger.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:54

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and and she's Beijing, so I trust her. Um Beyonce, because she got it. She got it. She goes, Fuck these crumbs here. Pay, I'm gonna pay you back here. Take that. It's just it's lint in my pocket.

SPEAKER_16 1:12:16

She got it.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:17

And my that's my thing I was gonna say about like. For me to even lend her money in a world, there was a reason that she probably wouldn't even take it. They needed to borrow money from you.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:27

And that's where I'm gonna go with what I'm about to answer with. I don't think Mary would ask.

unknown 1:12:34

They needed to borrow money.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:35

Because off of just like yes, that's why I feel like Mary's not asking.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:41

Well, no, no, no. This is you've loaned them money. Which one do you think wouldn't pay back? She's too priceful.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:47

Oh, I feel like Mary would have paid me back because of that reason, she would have been like, mm-mm, you ain't I don't owe you shit.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:53

Yeah, if this is if this is gonna be too bad because of that, she would have paid shit. Beyonce got too much bread. She'll she can pay you back with interest if she went and not care. Uh Mary J is just she she is just too down to earth. Um, and and be like, yo. Please don't say my shit because you keep stealing all my fucking shit. It might come in a week, it might give them two weeks, but she got a big thing. No, that's the crazy part. Mariah Carey, Mariah Carey's just.

unknown 1:13:28

She was yelling all my fucking answers.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:30

I didn't even know you had these answers. Mariah Carey's just a little too sneaky.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:35

You know what I hear.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:36

She looks sneaky. She looks sneaky. Me trying to get my money back from Mariah. Like she got some shit up her sleeve. I'm Mariah. You shouldn't have given it to me in the first place. You're not getting your money. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:48

What? Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:55

Yeah. Well, if you was broke, then say so. But I mean, I I thought I didn't have to pay you back. If you look at the picture, it says everything for me. I think you give them that type of shit. You ain't getting nobody.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:11

So I chose I'm just pirate carrying.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:16

That type of high skin, I don't trust.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:19

The reasons why was that Rihanna made a whole motherfucking song. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:25

Better have my money.

Cam Newton, Kids & “Value”

SPEAKER_08 1:14:28

Beyonce, I feel like, is just I feel like she's at a level in the type of person that's just money, yeah. You know what? Yes. You was nice enough to loan it to me. Here, here's your money. But she a Virgo, she don't want no debt. Mary, I feel like, just has a certain level of code that is just like, yeah. You know what? You did me that that one. Virginie. I got you. Don't tell nobody. Mariah, I feel like she's just gonna look at you. Kind of like what Mimi said, and just like, really? You didn't know. You need to buy that bad.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:01

Right.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:01

Like, don't you know who I am? Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:03

Like, why'd you give it to me? Why are you bothering me right now?

SPEAKER_07 1:15:06

Why are you always why are you so so sad?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:12

I don't know what I was thinking.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:14

Why are you always dumpling?

SPEAKER_05 1:15:16

You know another another reason why I chose Mariah?

SPEAKER_07 1:15:22

Because I don't even know what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:36

Is because all the reasonings I have for everybody else just made more. Because she gets me. And I believe that's all credit anyway, wherever she goes. I know, right? She's like, really, thought I had to stop it.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:50

Who do you think I am? Around Christmas.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:54

She everything around Christmas, so she ain't gonna have it until Christmas anyway.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:58

Rightfully so. She's done her too.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:02

Yeah, she does seem like she'll give you that voice. Like with our voice, her voice coming.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:07

I'm I'm I'm crazy. Uh-uh. Well, I believe we had your favorite part. Y'all get that reference soon.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:18

Have you been here all these seasons? Welcome to the table for the run now.

SPEAKER_09 1:16:22

And tell the friend drop the gems back in the house once again. Live your life data guns. And now Jem Bogat, like a big sand, pull on stems. The wall got the ball run out. And tell the friend drop a gem on him.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:43

Alright, dropping gems on these motherfuckers. Alright, both of y'all. Gib number one. And I love this one. Cause I feel like this is what Nini do. Black mamas will remix a curse word and be like, I told you not to go nowhere. And you diss a damn peered. You like throw a curse word in a regular word and just remix it. Dumbling. You diss a damn peered. Alright, so give me something else.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:24

Was that a jack?

SPEAKER_04 1:17:27

You're a four fucking head.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:31

Yo, get out of here. I don't think I would ever say that.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:34

No.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:36

You up here talking like you got some intelligence, but you got all that for a fucking head. Yeah, then. Yeah. No. What would you say? Go home. Sean.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:48

Yo. Yo.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:50

Like Cobbie over here, bend over, just stick it, fuck it in.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:53

The stuff that goes in your head. You know you let your choice some thoughts win every time. And every time you're going to do it, he has a turkey based thing in his hand. Just flicking juice.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:08

Flicking fucking juice.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:12

Oh shit. Next one, please.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:15

Flicking juice.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:18

Why sound like you just flick juice?

SPEAKER_05 1:18:22

Anyway. Two. Most men aren't afraid to tell the truth. Most women are often afraid to hear it. So the lie becomes the compromise that keeps the I don't pronounce nothing. I honestly would say yes. Did you say Hagrid?

SPEAKER_08 1:18:45

Like for the truth. I think they're afraid to tell the truth because they know that yes, the person is not ready to hear the truth.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:58

And women are never ready to hear the truth as much as they ask for it.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:02

They know that, yes, the person is not ready to hear the truth right now.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:09

And the truth can be a few. Especially when you try to divide it up into little ass canvas.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:15

I think a lot of times it's like both parties know that the truth will set you free, and they'd rather stay in the bullshit with little canisters and pots of grease.

unknown 1:19:29

And they'd rather stay in the freezer.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:31

In a deep freezer. Waiting for it to solidify and slide out.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:45

Yo! Okay, before we move on, how do you really get rid of a pot of grease? If I plus ones, let us know. How do you get rid of grease?

SPEAKER_08 1:19:59

If not, I'll usually pour it into like if I have um like throwaway cups. Like red like the red silo cups and fill it up in the freezer and then just toss the whole cup. Yeah. Why how do you do it? Like the red silo cups and then fill it up and put it in the freezer and then just toss the whole cup.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:18

Do you? Yeah. I I I freeze it and then how do you do it? Containers that I don't need anymore. You throw it away. And then throw it away, but my wife seems to like all the containers. Throw the grease.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:34

Like just around the house. No, I said, no. Throw it. Where the fuck do you throw it?

SPEAKER_02 1:20:41

Just sliding through. It's like, hey guys. So you know what it is. I am not going to your house. I go in here and bust my fucking ass. I used to chicken grease all over the fucking place. But I used to like what the fuck is this? Put grease. I mean grease. Oh my God. Soap in it to kind of break it up, fill it with water, and I would just dump it in the drain. But I stopped doing that because it causes issues. But I had recently started doing that and I would just down the train.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:23

No. So well what detergent did you use? Where did you learn?

SPEAKER_04 1:21:30

When did you stop doing that?

SPEAKER_08 1:21:37

With hot water. You clean off a duck.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:41

Oh my god. Because Don takes grease. Because out of your way, you believe it's wrong.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:47

Bake it on the damn table. But no, I've um I would put if it's a small amount, the leftover flour, the flour that I have, I will put it in the grease and make it thicken up and then I just throw it away. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:07

But if it's you make gravy.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:08

It's a if it's thick it. If it's a big, if it's a big, a big, big pot which like of grease, I just let it sit there for a while. Fucking dumbbell.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:22

Till I figure out what to do with it. And then you throw it around your house. Yeah. I smear my walls. Oh my god, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_08 1:22:36

And then you make your spaghetti with it.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:39

Like, why it smells like fish, chicken, and pork chopping.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:50

Oh my god, that's fucking. All right, Jim.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:53

Why does these noodles taste like ballpark? Fish crease? I like Nathan.

unknown 1:23:02

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:03

Go to your next gym.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:05

Two hands, one pinky. Oh, the hot dogs too. All right, last gym. Oh shit. Okay, last last gym. I hate when people say it's too early to eat. Someone please tell me when what time my stomach opens. No, something else open. Feed that flap.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:46

Nene, what what what time? How early is it that your store opens? Wait, what was the question? How early does my store open?

SPEAKER_06 1:23:55

What was what did you say? Stomach.

unknown 1:24:00

Stand up.

SPEAKER_09 1:24:06

Stomach.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:08

Oh shit. That's our drips.

SPEAKER_16 1:24:14

All right.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:18

Yeah, I hate when people say that. It's too early to eat. I'm eating. You ever wake up for breakfast?

SPEAKER_08 1:24:33

Yes. Absolutely. Most things I've done. You ever wake up for breakfast? Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:42

Let's sit and marinate and steak from Longhorns left over. And you cook that up with like an egg. Yeah, because I'm fat. And um, it's delicious.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:56

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:57

Oh, I've done that a few times. I've done that few.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:02

You ever make lunch and the lunch don't make it to lunch? I'm hungry right now. You eat it like at 9 30? Go ahead and heat it. And then go buy a lunch anyway.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:16

Yo. Meatloaf at 9 o'clock. I was about to say, like the one put together with all the meat, but. That's what a meatloaf is.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:32

He he knew what he meant.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:34

A load of meat.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:36

Did you say he gets a load of meat out of you?

SPEAKER_07 1:25:45

I didn't say anything.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:48

Out of me?

SPEAKER_07 1:25:49

Who the fuck said meat?

SPEAKER_04 1:25:51

Oh, that's so weird.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:53

He said he gets a I say he gets a load.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:56

I say he gets a load out of meat anyway.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:00

You play it back and post.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:02

Yeah. I did. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:08

Uh I hope you guys got your tickets for picnic.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:14

Yeah, if you're um 92 minutes.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:16

Anything uh important that you want to say lastly before we uh get up out of here. Yes.

SPEAKER_16 1:26:28

Or hey yo, that's yo.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:39

It took me a minute, but that was clever as shit. Ooh. Yep. Yep, yep. Hey, uh powerball. Uh it's a hundred and ninety million. Go play a ticket. Uh get lucky. And have a Mr. Spater neutered. Uh, other than that, what's March Madden is coming? Uh college basketball.

SPEAKER_08 1:27:06

Because then you're devalued with all these fucking kids.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:11

Why why would they spade or neuter me? I need to? I need to be spade neutered. Yeah, pregnant peers. Yo, you know what's funny? Like, my my potency of sperm.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:27

That's crazy. Yo, you playing her business out there like that.

SPEAKER_08 1:27:29

I couldn't stop getting my wife pregnant. All these little grape nuts.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:33

My wife got pregnant like 12 times.

SPEAKER_08 1:27:36

Wow.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:38

Hey, we only got two kids. That is crazy.

SPEAKER_08 1:27:41

The little village.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:42

I'm sorry. I'm going to delete that up.

SPEAKER_08 1:27:46

That's a wild table for 10. Rest in peace.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:56

When y'all die, they're gonna be up there like this. Well, what the fuck? No.

SPEAKER_08 1:28:07

They're gonna be up there eating their dog.

SPEAKER_16 1:28:11

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:15

Yeah, we delete that in post.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:20

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:23

Hey, yo. None of this shit is gonna make it. I'm just trying to find a song to get us out of here. And I can't find it fashion.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:34

This shit is crazy. Fuck it right.

SPEAKER_12 1:28:40

I did. I did.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:45

At this point, you just fobblin, sir. Just press, please.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:50

No, I even wanna go there. Sorry.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:53

I'm gonna fix this whole thing. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_05 1:28:56

I I I don't know what to do.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:08

Later. First thing I first thing I picked.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:11

Hi job. We reach it. We appreciate y'all. Later.

SPEAKER_15 1:29:25

Without no big wings of change. But we can say I'm about to die. All I'll keep on my eyes. But that won't be the same until she's fine. Prince the tell me to do it now. Watch out.