Marketing & Mayhem
Two gals talking marketing, life, and all the mayhem in between.
Marketing & Mayhem
Alpacas, Elves & Santa the Brand
** Not a kiddo friendly episode **
We chat cheering traditions and Christmas magic and yall know who actually brings those to life …
We are on the cusp of Christmas Eve hoes - how is everyone feeling? From farm animals to excessive shopping and the panic about how quickly December is flying by … a friendly reminder that we’re all in this together.
From dark roots to depth - to forgotten eyebrows - here’s to the friends who watch every reel you send - and the ones who answer your phone calls and facetime calls. Those are the real friendships. And let’s be done telling people they “look” or “sound tired”. What we don’t need this time of year, on top of sleepless nights - is added insecurity. Skip the observations people - it’s unnecessary.
On top of the emails - teacher gifts - coaches gifts - a full cvs receipt length list of to dos … we both have host houses for tiny Christmas elves. Hear our theory on why some houses have one - some don’t - and ultimately the nightly debacle that is this little mischief maker. We love them of course but who’s idea was it to add more expectations to an already heavily weighted holiday?
But this episode - is a marketing episode … and guess who we talk branding over - the big man himself: Santa. This one is sure to give you a laugh as you reign in the last week before the holiday - and don’t be afraid to joke on social with us. And we take a detour to mouthwash and water picks - and this folks is why we called it mayhem. Don’t shoot your eye out … (no really) …
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Hosted by @raebecca.miller and @jennyfromthe843
hello, hello hello ho ho ho to my favorite, ho ho ho my hose up oh my god jenny tick, tock, it is a few days until christmas tick, tock, um, what's that little thing?
Speaker 2:it's beginning to look a lot like fuck this. Have you heard that? No oh yeah, I'm in that part like if it didn't come. Have you seen the thing where it's like if amazon shows up today with a llama, I'm just gonna be like that. I, I bought that probably.
Speaker 1:A hundred percent. I seriously like an alpaca could come to the door. I'd be like that's ours.
Speaker 2:We're giving everyone wool balls for their dryer. I actually don't know. If alpacas make wool balls, do they make sweaters? There's an alpaca farm by my house.
Speaker 1:Is there.
Speaker 2:In New York, yeah, by my house Is there In New York? Yeah, I think alpacas are so cute. I think are they one of the ones that spit though I can't get really excited about spitting. It's camels, no, but I think other ones spit, and I think goats pee on their beard and they rub their beard everywhere. That's like how they get their scent. They like pee on their own beard. I might have made that up, but I'm pretty sure I didn't up, but I'm pretty sure I didn't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like you're that person who has like random facts like that. My brother had goats. My baby brother had goats. For like four years he had a property that was covered in poison ivy and goats eat poison ivy and after four years they basically ate. All of it was gone like as a plant and no longer existed on the property and then he gave him to his good friend who's a farmer.
Speaker 1:I like. You're that person who has all these like random bits of knowledge that you would be really good at trivial pursuit, but you don't play games I gotta, I gotta check cards the other day at the grocery store.
Speaker 2:Who are you?
Speaker 1:like regular playing cards.
Speaker 2:God, I hope so. That was the goal.
Speaker 1:I love that. I'm so thankful that we don't do video because we both we are makeup free. Oh, did I send you that quote that I saw on Instagram yesterday? Hang on a second, I don't know. You did blow up my Instagram. I owed you so many responses because yeah, there were.
Speaker 1:There were some really good ones in there I had to go back to the weekend because I was overstimulated af this weekend. I could not ingest any more information, so I had to go back and watch all of them, which I did, because I know if you took the time to send it to me then I'm gonna need to watch it. So I did go back and watch them all. But listen to this. So the quote was the key to looking. Amazing is looking like shit most of the time. So it's more of a surprise.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I think that's true. Unfortunately, I waffle between looking like Gary Busey and then trying to really try, but I do 50-50, and I probably should just try less.
Speaker 1:I feel like you look really pretty right now. Actually.
Speaker 2:Thank you. Is it the red eye patches?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I feel like your forehead's, like I mean, you look like you have a filter on.
Speaker 2:I don't actually have a zip right here, do you see this?
Speaker 1:Well, I mean I do now that you just pointed it out, but um, can we talk about my roots? Did you see? I'm getting them painted darker now I fucking love a dark root well, just because you know, I did the collar consult and that was one of the things that she recommended. So it gives your face so much depth.
Speaker 2:Oh, thank you. It brings like darkness, though, like where you would normally have like more of a tan. I'm obsessed with a dark root. I drive Ashley crazy. She said I'm not, officially, the only client that does it. Now, though, there's like two or three. But everyone else wants that color straight to their root and I'm like, no, please paint my roots dark, yep, and lighten the rest of my hair, but does it get?
Speaker 1:like on your forehead, like I look like I had a bad spray tan, I get real pitched up about it.
Speaker 2:I do tell her. As soon as she's done placing it on, I'm like can you wipe out my forehead? It does get a little sketchy for like two days. If you get them to go after it sooner, it's better, but I do get a little twisted about the forehead color.
Speaker 1:Well, the funny part was is that I had like a huge event at Clark School like hours, hours after I got my hair done and it looked like I had just like rubbed mud all across my hair.
Speaker 2:It's so annoying. No, have them like immediately, as soon as they're done painting the color on, have them touch up around there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I need to do that.
Speaker 2:Like some kind of special, like liquid thing.
Speaker 1:What are you drinking this morning? What's your beverage of choice?
Speaker 2:This is that gut health stuff, because I feel like I'm hanging on by a thread. I haven't had coffee. I did have one Diet Coke this week, but I've mostly just been drinking gut health juice.
Speaker 1:I started a new supplement myself and it's a mixer that you Do. You follow the Rambling Redhead? I think I do, so she's like the girl who does all the elf giveaways that I'm obsessed with. She does like solid, solid giveaways, yeah, um. But she started doing a supplement. It's got like magnesium and all this other shit in it, so I started that about I don't know a week and a half ago. It's time will tell, do I?
Speaker 2:know younger or wait. No, this might be closer to month six of this and I actually like love it. Somebody asked me about it the other day and I was like you know what? I think I'm on like month six and I'm kind of into it.
Speaker 2:That's great I'm all about healthy guts, especially this time. You know who also loves a supplement, which made me love her more Our hormone person. She actually is where most doctors are like. They like to tell you that all of that's just nothing, or like a waste of your money or a waste of your time. She's like no, I love a supplement.
Speaker 1:I'm no joke, I seriously take like 12 a day.
Speaker 2:No, she's like if you want to bring in the bottles, like I'll look over them but like I'm never going to tell you not to take a supplement, like there's so much benefit to supplement.
Speaker 1:She's pro supplement. I love that. She looked at what I was taking and she was like let's switch this vitamin B to a B complex. Like I cannot sing this lady's praises enough she is.
Speaker 2:She I know I have an appointment with her. I just saw her a week ago, but I in march and she's got a new person working with her and I was like, okay, I think it's really time for you to come on.
Speaker 1:She's like I think I'll come on in the spring so yay, oh, that makes me so excited, and I'm seeing her in january. So I I said it last time I was there, but I'll ask her again too. We can tag team her yes, we.
Speaker 2:She needs the pressure.
Speaker 1:So this episode is dropping a mere what? Four days before Christmas, five days before Christmas. Are you, are you ready?
Speaker 2:Um, like, do I have everything? Yes, sure, I'm like waiting on like two things to arrive, um, but the girls are done, okay, I'm waiting on like two things to arrive, but the girls are done, okay, which is for me like I did definitely prioritize that. Sorry, everyone else, the girls are done, so they're going to have a great holiday. We got some really cute gifts for their dad.
Speaker 1:I know I'm going to just yep. That's great.
Speaker 2:Well, they're really excited and I think I was thinking a lot about the holidays and how I want to show up and how I want them to be gift givers like we are, and like I just think we put a lot of time into going out together and doing this and I am really proud of myself for my last year, I think when I do that I'm so proud of you and I'm not saying that, by the way, if any of you are listening, because you're twisted and not because you like us.
Speaker 2:I am not saying that I did those things so I could earn a gold star. I'm just saying I really feel very different going into this holiday season than I did last season. Um, there's just, there's certainly some lightness. Um, I will say the walls are starting to close in on the stuff you know, like the decorations.
Speaker 1:So when that same thing this morning, that's so funny. Your timing of saying that same thing this morning, that's so funny, your timing of saying that, but that is why we do it early.
Speaker 2:But when Christmas is done, I want to be done and I want it to be fresh and clean when I go into the new year. So I do feel that a little bit. I feel like we're really getting to that finish line, which is perfect. I never want to get to Christmas and feel like I was robbed of that time. I want to feel like I got my full Hallmark glow lights.
Speaker 1:I want it all out of my system and I think we did a good job of that I think so too, and that had my quiet night last night where I put everybody to bed and I poured a glass of wine and I watched the holiday.
Speaker 2:I love that.
Speaker 1:I, and then Nate comes downstairs and he starts asking me questions about the holiday.
Speaker 2:I'm like whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. We are at the finish line. We can see it. One mile left of the marathon.
Speaker 1:No, go away.
Speaker 2:We're not talking about it right now.
Speaker 1:No, I'm like this is why I can't watch TV with you, because you ask too many questions, like he used to do that with Grey's Anatomy. Well, tv with you because you ask too many questions. He used to do that with Grey's Anatomy Well, who was that? Why are they doing that? I'm like uh-uh.
Speaker 2:Watch it or don't watch it.
Speaker 1:Nope, just stop, stop. So I had my moment with Jude Law last night. Yeah, so I'm in the holiday spirit, but I'm hanging by a thread, as we all are.
Speaker 2:We're hanging by tinsel. Well, that's much fun. That's much fun, very breakable, pretty, so pretty, very breakable.
Speaker 1:Very breakable.
Speaker 2:Very breakable, magical, very just like I. You know I have this thing too about like what is it? What's the quote I always say about my? Why can't I think of it right now? Both of my kids are fragile. I always say, like, I have two daughters and they're both fragile. One is fragile like a flower, one is fragile like a bomb. That's one of your best quotes Two very different kinds of fragile.
Speaker 1:Well, I feel like we're at the part of the season we're tinsel fragile when people see me and they're like are you okay? I hate that. Can I tell you? I do too, because I'm like that's like code for you.
Speaker 2:look like shit, I mean my mom did this to me today or the other day and she's going to feel bad because she listens. And I'm not mad mom, I really don't care. But she just kept being like I can hear it in your voice, you sound so tired and I literally was like army crawling across the floor, not literally, but figuratively, like to a very slow, like tired death, and I was like no, I am, I am very tired. I don't really want to talk about that. I'm hey, it's just like I don't know I?
Speaker 1:because when people say that when they'm right. It's just like I don't know I cause when people say that when they see me and that's their first question it's like yeah, I want to go in the bathroom and look in the mirror.
Speaker 2:I'm like what's?
Speaker 1:up Like this, like yes, I mean the lashes are supposed to help Like what's going on. I feel like now I'm like God. What else do I need to do for Frick's sake?
Speaker 2:This is the time of year that one time Christina and I you know Christina, my sister-in-law, the therapist so we FaceTime a lot Like I'll be like in the bathroom doing makeup and she'll be like in her office in between clients and we'll be like FaceTiming. And she called, she FaceTimed me and she was dying laughing. I was like what is she going to say? And she's a redhead. So she had gotten halfway through the day and it's this time of year without she forgot to put her eyebrows on. And if she doesn't put them on, if she doesn't draw them, there are none. It's just like forehead.
Speaker 1:She goes look at my face.
Speaker 2:She was like I've literally been seeing clients and they've been she's a therapist. She's like they've been looking at me like oh. And then I finally went to the bathroom. I was like, oh my God.
Speaker 1:I really wish you had a picture of that.
Speaker 2:I do have a picture somewhere. I will ask for permission. But she was like that's like the kind of stuff we FaceTime, so that's like when the phone rings, I'm like like if she says, are you free, I know she's going to talk about something.
Speaker 1:She's got something good.
Speaker 2:I'm like I can be in three seconds immediately. I'm like and then other times it will just come up and it'll be her crying and I'm like what happened? And it's because she was walking around Like. It doesn't like, you don't need your eyebrows.
Speaker 1:But I mean like when somebody asks you that, do you feel the same way, or is this just like a sensitive thing for me?
Speaker 2:I like really want to just go right to the bathroom and look at my face.
Speaker 1:Is there a booger situation Like when?
Speaker 2:there's like things like you and I were just talking before we got on here I have. So I have two new fit two new eye creams. You have a new eye cream. My sister-in-law's asked for eye cream this Christmas. We're all feeling it at some point. There is not enough.
Speaker 1:Rosy glow eight seconds to famous or whatever the shit is to save the queen herself we need sleep.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, I actually saw last night let me see if I can find it really fast a really funny quote about Christmas, and it was kids and I think that, yeah, he said I bet Christmas. He said I bet, mom, I bet Christmas is your favorite. Oh, it says guess what a parent's favorite holiday is? And the mom was like what? And the seven-year-old was like Christmas, because Santa takes care of everything. You just get to sit back and relax. And the mom was like, yes, it's a huge relief, huge relief. I was like I feel that in my bones.
Speaker 1:So, and we are going to talk about this and we'll do another disclaimer- like we did the last time.
Speaker 2:But yes, it's not a kid friendly episode. Yes, We'll add that Did you do.
Speaker 1:You do the elf. Oh yeah, you do do the elf. Yes, okay, does your ex-husband do that? Excuse me, does your first husband do the elf?
Speaker 2:So this is interesting. Well, you know, I used to make elf. I was going there, but, yeah, okay, so um he. So I told this is what I told the girls, because we also have two dogs and elves are like dogs and I believe firmly that they're not for everyone. In fact, my sister-in-law, that's a therapist, does not have an elf, and so the kids ask me a lot and I'm like here's the deal.
Speaker 2:Elves are a lot of responsibility you have to apply, like you have to go to Barnes and Noble. You have to say to Santa I feel like that's a responsibility I can handle. Not every family can handle the responsibility. It's like an exchange student from the North Pole. That's how I tell them to think of it. He is an exchange student. He comes with a responsibility.
Speaker 2:You can't just jack around, leave your crap out, have your dogs eat him. It's a very. You got to be a host. So when we were first talking about him coming back, they were like do you think we'll get an alpha dad? And I was like I don't know. You need to talk to your dad about whether or not that's something that he feels like he wants to do. Not everyone has one. It's a low pressure situation. Santa doesn't need these little jack holes running around all over with people that can't maintain them. That's not fair and appropriate. He has got a full plate this time of year also, I know. But no, santa, I mean, yes, santa's got a full plate. He can't be dinging around worrying about where Joe, schmo, larry and Tinsel are. Responsible families need only apply. So they did end up getting one into the season a little bit.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Yep, so there is an elf at both places. There's a girl. They have a girl named potential um at their dads, okay do you have an elf?
Speaker 1:we do so we've. I thought I told you this story about um. Nate's mom made these back in the 80s, before the elf was even a thing. So we have truly actually let me get a pic. Let me, let me go grab elf One sec. So like Elfie looks a lot different than everybody else's.
Speaker 2:I have two other friends who have different elves.
Speaker 1:So this is Elfie. Um, I'll snap a pic for social.
Speaker 2:I know we have commercial elf, but I do have friends who have different elves and then this is the, the cardigan that Nate crocheted for Elfie. Oh my, god, I should have had Nate crochet a cardigan he totally would have.
Speaker 1:Um, so, yes, elfie, yeah, but here the thing I told my husband a long time ago I want nothing to do with this damn thing, nothing to do. I am in charge of Christmas shopping, yeah, teacher stuff, yeah, pta. If you want the elf, I implore you to handle the elf. Yes, it's a lot.
Speaker 2:Like I said, it's a lot of responsibility and I don't want it.
Speaker 1:Nope, I understand, I want it. So the other day Nate leaves the house at three 30 in the morning to go to the gym. I see all he does.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no I wake up.
Speaker 1:You know, the first thing I do when I roll over is correct my email, because I'm a psycho you are a psycho.
Speaker 2:That's really bizarre.
Speaker 1:I know you're about to say that and guess what? I had an email in my inbox. Shit. I forgot to move Elfie, and so I. I was pissed and I had to go move the damn elf.
Speaker 2:I would have went to.
Speaker 1:We love you.
Speaker 2:Nate.
Speaker 1:So I just put him on top of the dog crate. I was like he can hang out here, that's not risky. Nobody was in it. And so Clark walks out. She's looking for Alfie.
Speaker 1:Usually he hides, does funny things, things, sits on the toilet you know dad humor kind of stuff and she sees him sitting on the dog crate and she's like I could. She just has it all over her face like she is disappointed. And so like an hour goes by and I kept. I pumped her a couple of times and like she didn't say anything. And then finally on the way to school I was like so seriously, what? Why were you upset this morning about elfie? Like what, what's going on? Like you could tell she was visibly upset. She was like he already hid on the dog crate. He could really find some better places to hide. Just repeating this stuff he's already done this season. And I was like mother of pearl. I'm like god darn, I didn't want nothing to do with this damn thing and now I've let her down because I had a shitty spot repeat on, por favor and so I told Nate I was like that is it, I am done touching this elf.
Speaker 1:I am not good at it. She did not like where I hid. So yeah, no more, no more, I just no, I can't handle it. One more thing.
Speaker 2:No, I understand. I have an alarm on my phone, like every night, so that I Nate jot that idea down.
Speaker 1:That is genius.
Speaker 2:I'm a big alarm person, so I have an alarm on my phone. I do I really people don't understand because they're like that's I think that's part of the joy of the chaos of me is like.
Speaker 1:It's excessive, though. Pull up your old phone right now, cause I want to see how many alarms you've got like active.
Speaker 2:I cleaned them out the other day. Well, I've already turned off, like some of the ones, for like the morning, but like typically, I have them labeled. We're three scrolls.
Speaker 1:Okay, we're at four scrolls, people. Four scrolls labeled three scrolls. Okay, we're at four scrolls, people. Four scrolls. Wow, they're labeled. God love you. Let me see how many I have, okay this is so funny because I have two squirrels, oh well, one scroll.
Speaker 2:But no, I have, and they're all labeled and they have like things and some of them are like whatever, and so I go through once the day, once we start passing that part of the day, and start hitting them back on. But you know, if you're with me, there's like yeah, because my brain you know what? It's the same as the watch I didn't use to do this in the last two years. This is actually older than taking off the watch. I started doing this because it gives, because I know that someone's coming to get me Right, like I really would have thrived with like a secretary, like I truly would have done so great with like a big office and like a window and a secretary, like a beautiful girl or man, whatever, who's like five minute warning, yeah, that really is like where I shine, but like doing that, this is as close as I can get from that person for myself.
Speaker 1:But like you should see, if there's like a sound, that's like a knock.
Speaker 2:That's really where I like if I have a five minute warning, I can really pull my shit together. But like outside of that, that's why I'm like sometimes I'll talk to you and be like hi. So I've looked at my calendar and it looks like I took a break last week from putting things on my calendar.
Speaker 1:You're like where are we and what are we doing? This is what I think. I got down the other day and I was like what the heck I'm like? I did not write it down and so it doesn't happen.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, no, I really like, I really do sit down and go through, but you know the days are so busy right now that I'm not always like. I'm like, ooh, that's going to have to be a mental note. I called a dermatologist yesterday and I was like hi, fairly sure that I have an write it down when I was there last December, so I'm going to need some help here, or I've already missed it, and she goes nope, we see you next Thursday at 3 o'clock. I was like and I love that. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1:Say look at you. You remembered, though that's going to count for something I knew. Well, because this is like the time of year when, I like go in, and I was like uh, but yes, so I have a fun game for us to play today.
Speaker 2:By the way, back to the cards. I actually do want to learn. I want to. I think I used to know some card games like war and solitaire, so they could tell my list. I love solitaire.
Speaker 1:Sometimes, when I just need like a minute to not think, I play solitaire.
Speaker 2:You play on your phone though.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Okay, I want to do it like with my hands.
Speaker 1:Oh, I do it on the computer oh well, let's see your phone you're doing your computer.
Speaker 2:It's bigger I want to. I want to get my brain. I'm going down the rabbit hole without this watch thing.
Speaker 1:I'm really like, um, I've read two books this week, so I read um the second book of the chestnut spring series. Flawless, wait, no, no one. Yeah, flawless, no, is that right you are? Have you read the series?
Speaker 2:you would love it well, I have, I've been listening to it, yeah so that one was really good.
Speaker 1:It's just like these very manly men. It is like your man to a T and they're so good.
Speaker 2:A good friend of mine who knew me back in the Michael Corsay she was actually an assistant manager on another team who I love, recommended it. I will tell you this. I meant to bring this up the other day and I think we should use this opportunity. Somehow I accidentally have stacked up a fair amount of Audible credits. Oh, and I think it would be really fun before Christmas break. I should have asked you before we got on here, but I think we should give like a certain amount of like. Let's do like two sets of flawless. We could do like just the first book on audible. This comes out so like if you give a listen to this and reach out on social, let's keep it really simple. Perfect, we're giving you the flawless credits on audible. I can gift it. I looked it up, so it's very easy, but it has to be a specific title. I have to already purchase the title and then gift it.
Speaker 1:Well, should we do the first one then, because the first one is perfect. You managed that Flawless.
Speaker 2:Yeah, flawless. Okay, so the first two people to reach out on social. We're going to keep it so simple Get the Audible credit for flawless, and you can sit there the day after Christmas when these people are going batshit crazy with their Nintendo switches or whatever the hell it is. Put your AirPods in and take a mini break. I love that.
Speaker 1:So the one I just read was heartless. So I read the second one and then the third one's in my car right now to read, but you would love this.
Speaker 2:I mean, like it's just when I envision these men, I'm like, oh, they're juicy, I like them all about that, but they're very like, emotionally connected yeah, but like, have you read?
Speaker 1:listen to the second one where no, no, yum, because he's like, because he's kind of mean, which like I kind of like being a little, I know, I know like somebody with a little edge and he's got some edge and it's just. It was a good book. Yeah, okay, I read it a few days so it was really good. So I read that and then I read the other night I went to bed at like 8 30 because yeah, and I'm like I'm gonna read a few pages of this new book and it's called one by one. It's by frida mcfadden. I did, I did not go to sleep till 11 30. I finished the whole thing it what is it?
Speaker 2:a self-help, or is it like a?
Speaker 1:no, it's like a freaking like murder book and it I was like into it so I couldn't go to sleep. She writes like the housemate is watching yeah, they're so good. So like I read that book in four hours, oh okay, and I don't like I think it's just because everything we're so busy right now. I'm kind of like you, like I need to do something to not think about all the things. So, I've been yeah, I've read like two books this week, cause I just need a minute to.
Speaker 2:I think it's important to come off of it. I'm telling you, I watched three people in yoga, by the way, check their Apple watch back to come off of it, and I was like this is what I'm talking about. It's too much. It's too much, and December is the part where it really creeps in there and it feels like you have to answer every single demand immediately and I'm like no hold up. This is taxing.
Speaker 1:It goes back to our episode with Jennifer, though, about having those boundaries, and it's not even so much like it's outside of family, it's just everywhere, like I just need a minute, yeah.
Speaker 2:No, I think it's really good. I was going to say a really good resolution or intention. If you're not already doing. It is like you don't have to be on call and we become very much on. My caffeine intake goes up in December and my reaction time has to like speed up and you feel like you're on call. But we are not ambulance drivers, we are not oncology doctors, we are not paramedics or firemen. Hold up, Hold up. And you, when you're a mom, you have to have at least a little bit of a cup full if you're going to fill everyone else's.
Speaker 1:But we're selfish if we do that sometimes.
Speaker 2:That's what people think. No, I know, I know my favorite is like oh, you're letting.
Speaker 1:So where's Clark? Like, where is she? Nate's watching her. Oh, so he's like babysitting. No, that's his kid.
Speaker 2:It's like this women in male fields thing. I'm like I love it, yeah. Like how are you going to have a career with a wife and a baby at home? Like get real people Right. I will say that's the yin or the yang People. If you were only staying at home, then they would judge you for that. If you do both judge, for that, I'm like I just don't even care anymore. I have started doing some of the saying some of the craziest things because I just don't care.
Speaker 1:I mean listen, everybody's entitled to their own opinion. I just feel like it's it's, it's. It's a constant battle and like.
Speaker 2:I just am done fighting it. Do you think everyone's entitled to their own opinion? I'm going to disagree. I do because there's a part where it just doesn't need an opinion and maybe it's because of like partially, probably even like my first marriage. But this idea that everyone has to form an opinion on everything, I think is nonsense.
Speaker 1:Oh, I think it's okay if you form it, you don't got to say it no.
Speaker 2:I even think forming it. This is what I'm going to say the unconventional thought process. It is a waste of time to spend time thinking about how you would do someone else's life differently. Like you could use that so much more for yourself or your family. But this idea where, like people are constantly like going through life thinking about other people in a judgmental way, I'm like what an absolute waste.
Speaker 1:I know, I mean I feel sorry for them. No, exactly that's what I mean. I agree wholeheartedly, I think. I know you'll do it, but it's just like that must be a shit.
Speaker 2:What if we started talking more about like just not having one Like I really like I live and it's lovely one Like I really like, no, I talk about this too.
Speaker 2:She'd be like you, do you? And she like really doesn't care. Like, no, like I actually did care deeply about something. Like if you told her I don't know whatever it was like, let's say, cause gut health is one of her things right now, she might have you said you were going to go on some sort of like medication to resolve that. She might be like, hey, I have this great supplement. I really wish you would try it first. But like, outside of that, like, and that's just her looking out for your wellness and caring about people because of her own experiences. But like she really has a lot of you, do you? She just does not waste time thinking about how other people I mean, it's around it Like if you're parenting her kids might not sleep over. I'm the same way. But like outside of that man, I just I this.
Speaker 1:I lived in a house where somebody had so many opinions about everything and I was like what a waste well, I mean, yeah, like, just I feel like people maybe I'm just feeling this way because of my interactions yesterday People are just kind of nasty. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't know if it's the time of year or what, but it's just uncalled for. It's just really uncalled for and I try not to like let myself get like raged about it, but I'm like I feel sorry for these people. I had to run in yesterday. I went to belt to get me some foot pedals because I gotta wear high heels tonight, not happy about it you know, I didn't even know what that was when you posted on instagram.
Speaker 2:I've never worn a foot pedal in my life they are life-changing okay, cool, we're gonna.
Speaker 1:We're gonna wear them all through italy, like my feet, did not Brand new shoes, they are life-changing. Okay, a little arch support. I got to wear heels. Tonight it's Nate's Christmas party, whatever.
Speaker 2:I love it.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah. So I went to Belk. This lady was trying to return something. It was past the 30 days. You should have heard the way she was speaking to the lady at Belk.
Speaker 2:I mean no, you know, I did my days as retail.
Speaker 1:I have literally so I mean, and Clark was with me, so it was good life lesson to be like. This is why you do not speak to people this way, like and. So when we got to the lady, she was upset.
Speaker 2:And I'm just like and then we expect people because we pay them $16 an hour just to have no feelings. I'm like you cannot just walk around out in the world being harmful and then annoyed that somebody. That is the most narcissistic behavior. I cannot stand this level of narcissism. You cannot walk around in the world and be destructive and then be annoyed that somebody has a reaction to it.
Speaker 1:That is it. It ate on my nerves. And then I went to Target and Target is a flipping madhouse right now.
Speaker 2:I haven't been to Target since, like we last talked about it in October. Oh my God, one time during holidays I literally go every week.
Speaker 1:I know you do, I go every week. But I'm back to the drive up because I feel like I save money if I do it this way, because I'm a lot more intentional with what I'm buying. So they have like 20 spots because it's Christmas, right, and it is busy, they are awful. When I get there yesterday, well, I see one of the cars with nobody in it. Ooh, you just parked there, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, I see one of the cars with nobody in it Ooh he's parked there Some family, or it was a woman and her daughter, who was a teenager, not like she was young or a baby or whatever parked in that spot and took the spot just a part closer to go into Target. Oh, my. God, I almost got out of my car and said something. I'm telling you, I was this close, I was this close. So I witnessed somebody get out of my car and said something. I'm telling you, I was this close, I was this close.
Speaker 2:So I witnessed somebody get out of their car yesterday. I was at the corner like of 17, when you're at the light, where you're going to go to Costco, and I was in the two turning lanes left turning and then there was the other three lanes or whatever, and there was a guy in a big work truck and there's a little sedan, big work truck and there's a some a little sedan and the light turned green forever and our light was so red. So he got out and he no, he, like they were stuck, I, we, I actually was ready to call 911 because I thought, and he knocked on the door, gently, knocked on the window, knocked on the window again. I was like, oh my god, what if this person's like having like a medical? Oh my gosh, the person rolled their window down and started to scream at him and then when he he started laughing and walked back to his truck and then the person was like driving around trying to be close to him and I was like what the fuck? Everyone else here thought you were like having a heart attack at the light, whatever you were doing, like it was green on 17,.
Speaker 2:Like the man to get out and knock three times, three separate times before the person then got startled and mad. I'm like you gotta be joking, go to McDonald's and pull in and do your little texting. Is that what it was? They were texting? No, I was like just one more spot further back but I could see the person like with their hands, and then they were like literally trying to be next to him in traffic and he was just like people crazy. I'm like what are you going to do? So do you want to hear about my game now?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, Sorry sorry.
Speaker 1:So I want to play a game that if Santa had social media.
Speaker 2:Yes, Do you know? I posted last year. It's like God, I really wish Santa had us. I thought about doing a fun one you did do that.
Speaker 1:So I want to talk about what Santa's brand would be, what his pillars would be and what his social would be, ooh Like what would his logo like?
Speaker 2:what's his picture? Well, we have a few options here, I know. So do you go like antique Santa? Do you go cartoon Santa? Do you give him like a little bit of sex appeal, because it's like 2024? Nothing too crazy, just like a little bit handsome, like a like a six-pack instead of the belly? No, not even a six-pack.
Speaker 1:I just think I don't love it. How about a big quad? How about that? Would that? Would that make you?
Speaker 2:in the states. You just give him like a little bit of the george clooney eyes, like something. A little bit like that appeals to the moms and the kids.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I feel like he needs like some modern, but I almost feel Do we modernize him?
Speaker 2:Or is this modern Santa? Do we take him out of?
Speaker 1:I don't know, or should we just go straight like beard and hat, like no face? I don't really. Oh, like just A little bit elusive, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean we could, we could, you could do like the north pole star. I definitely think you find the perfect red, I'm sure. Oh yeah, canton chart, we could probably find the perfect red, I think, the perfect red for sure. I think the magic is in the red, oh for sure. It's like, yeah, but then it's like, do you rebrand him? Do you rebrand him so that he appeals to the moms and the kids, and then you make it like he's a little bit of I don't know something everywhere, or do you just make it?
Speaker 1:I know. But what kind of like? What do you feel when you think santa, because I think like cozy, jolly, grandpa, like I don't know if I picture like target santa, because I mean he is, I just love that they did it, I there's a remake.
Speaker 2:Ain't that something? You see, that, ain't that something?
Speaker 1:um, there's something about it, though I like that the brands are having fun with it, yeah well, that's what I'm saying, so that's like, because that's my version of santa, like the cozy, that's what I think in my head, but then I love that they're, you know, rebranding him and some of these different things.
Speaker 2:I know, I do think it's like I'm like proud of it. I think there's something fun about like him not just being the creep that watches you, especially in this like.
Speaker 1:Is that your vibe? Is that what you think when you think Santa?
Speaker 2:I mean, I love Santa. I just am saying like if you were to take the other side of the brand, if you were pros cons, there's something about it. You know, like they have all these like little ornaments that look like cameras and parents tell kids that like we're leaning far, way too far into this. Watching you think we don't actually lean into that? Here I'm like I don't, that's why we have our elf exchange student. I we that's why we have our Elf Exchange student. We don't talk about him watching their behavior.
Speaker 1:Elfie, elfie. Yeah, nate will throw it out occasionally, but I mean it's a little creepy. To me that part is creepy.
Speaker 2:So I think that's the two sides of branding right, because I think that was more like some of the original makeup of him was like oh, he's this. I mean I think in some of the old world countries like wasn't he like mean?
Speaker 1:Oh my God, have you not seen Krampus? We talked about this.
Speaker 2:No, I think he like didn't he like beat the kid with sticks or something I don't know?
Speaker 1:I definitely think there's some. There is a dark, there could be a dark side.
Speaker 2:So I do, truly, I'll put some research into this. I do think there is some old world Santas with like a little bit of the dark side. Okay, so I think we got some options here we can decide, but I do think it would be so fun to like make a Santa social media and like it would be so fun.
Speaker 1:And I mean I would follow it and he could do like all right, let's talk about what platforms he would be on.
Speaker 2:Okay, so we've I'm writing down the perfect red.
Speaker 1:The perfect red.
Speaker 2:I think it's going to have to have some blues in it, but not be anything too close to like raspberry colors. Yep, like, not an orange red. I'm thinking it's definitely going to pull from the blue family a little bit. I don't know.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm still thinking the picture should just be beard hat, maybe a star yeah, because I feel like it leaves it open for interpretation, like it can appeal, because it's so vague that it's kind of like what I know is I definitely want it to be something that when people are scrolling through social, they start to to recognize it immediately, whether it's actually just the north pole, and so it's like a north pole social and it's like the figurehead or like obviously one of the key pillars. Um, you know, like if you had like a construction brand and then you had the owner as the president, like do you think about the north pole itself?
Speaker 1:um, the elves could like do some of the social too. That's what I mean, because do you use cloths.
Speaker 2:Remember I sent you the thing about the ducks, how the guy had snow and only the three ducks and there was like 5,000. Like it was like well, it's like that could totally happen with your elves. Like, if you like, think about like so for me it's all about like the creativity with something like this, because it's not a monetized social, totally so and people will become so much more invested in it faster. But like it's like the little elf prints everywhere you know, like that little funny stuff is like and like toy making and oh, tiny little lunches.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, you could have so much fun with elf stuff.
Speaker 2:I know and like, but his life is big compared to theirs. So then it's also this major juxtaposition of like miniature versus like average size.
Speaker 1:I love that word, by the way. Juxtaposition, it's just such a fun word.
Speaker 2:Like do elves work out? Do they like swimming? Like do you have like miniature pools? Do you do like some?
Speaker 1:reindeer content yes, and like Mrs Claus, like, can I get some recipes Like what is she cooking up?
Speaker 2:there. Is she cooking or is she just running this whole show? I'm in my, you know she is. It's very possible that Mrs Claus is actually the voice of the social and she's also the voice of the entire thing. Yes, so we see her planner.
Speaker 1:Oh, mrs Claus planner, I love that, but surely she's cooking.
Speaker 2:I'm sure she's cooking, but I hope that she has a kitchen full of elves and like really good girlfriends that like amuse her Like. This is why I think she should be modern, like I think she should have a book club. I feel like she should like get out. I want to see her go to yoga. I want mrs, I want mrs claus to be wearing the lulu. I want her to be like rose island, like betty white, like oh no, I want her to be snatched like. I want her to be snatched Like.
Speaker 1:I want her to be like so you're going younger, so you're picturing like target Santa Um.
Speaker 2:I don't know Cause, I just like I like the idea of her being like a boss lady.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Would he there's? No, he's not a handful.
Speaker 1:Would he do like collabs, like would he push product? Would he like he would push product? I don't know, that's what I'm we're, we're, we're branding santa here um, that's tricky.
Speaker 2:I think that's a tricky thing. I could. I do think I think he could probably do product reviews. Oh yeah, um, I think a good product review might be fun. I love knowing what the new toys are, what's going on, but I think he should Like a hot cocoa brand. Yeah, sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like a hot cocoa bomb. Yeah, I do think he. I think so. For me, one of the things that drives me crazy about Christmas and I don't know if we're going to share this, so I'm just going to throw it out there is like I do try to think about that. Everyone has different Christmases, so I really don't do the most expensive thing from the man himself. Okay, Because I just feel like A I work really hard and I'm not trying to be rude here, but like let's not get carried away. I would like some credit and we live in a bubble, but I also know that like there's a million kids out there who are going to have very different Christmases and I do like to think about, like, how that would feel, and so I try to keep it I don't know fair, whatever that means, you know, in quotations like something really appropriate, like as a Santa gift, I don't know. Yeah, Like that weighs on me a little bit.
Speaker 1:Do you know what I mean? Yeah, no.
Speaker 2:I do, I do, yeah, like that weighs on me a little bit, do you mean? Yeah, no, I do, I do. I used to post pictures and I do still post pictures, but then I I tell you the pictures. It's more just like the um, just that like school comparison stuff, where I'm like yeah, I don't love that in any regard.
Speaker 1:No, I know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I want them to know that, like their parents work hard and then this is like it's fun to celebrate this holiday and like these things, like there's a certain level that Santa can participate at and there's a certain level that your parents can participate at and they might be different. Yeah, he's got a lot of kids he's got to take care of.
Speaker 1:I know I say that all the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's got a lot of kids he's got to take care of. I know I say that all the time. Participate in that, by the way. Side note, I have an amazing app.
Speaker 1:Like appetizer or.
Speaker 2:No, an app. Oh, take a picture of your setup. I used to do the Santa thing. Yes, we will post it. Unfortunately, you're going to have to pay for it. I'm telling you right now, though. Kids love it. It's so beautiful.
Speaker 1:They do such a good job. All the different poses, left, right, bent down. It's so good.
Speaker 2:It's so good, we will share a few, but I really live for it. So heads up, and I appreciate the people that come up with these things. But I don't know. I mean I wonder if, like, she isn't his marketing girl. Like I feel like Santa's wife, mrs Claus, is really like his marketing team.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure she would be. She wears many hats, as most of us do.
Speaker 2:But can you imagine, like what is it? Does she always wear like red? Is she in yoga and like I'm sure she would be? She wears many hats, as most of us do. But can you imagine, like what is it Does she always wear like red? Is she in yoga in like full red or like beautiful coat?
Speaker 1:out front Like a beautiful coat out front, oh for sure, but I feel like she always has like killer boots on, like killer, like fuzzy boots.
Speaker 2:No, that's the thing I'm like. Everything Like you could literally have like the full yoga set up where, like I don't know why I'm using yoga, but everyone's shoes lay everywhere, and then there's like a beautiful jacket and beautiful boots.
Speaker 1:Have you seen the Christmas Chronicles on Netflix with Goldie Hawn? I don't know. And what's her husband's name? Kurt, something.
Speaker 2:Ooh, I love those too.
Speaker 1:She is a great Mrs Claus.
Speaker 2:Yes, so that I do, I could give you that like with a little funny laugh.
Speaker 1:Yes, Like yes, okay, so we need Santa Social.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I feel like we should really like mess around with it for fun, like next year. Isn't it fun? Yeah, no, we should like. It'd be funny. My brain was I love Santa social. What do you think the pillars would be?
Speaker 1:Ooh, Santa's pillars.
Speaker 2:It's tricky Like I don't know that it could be like religious, but then I think it has to be something about faith, but it can't. I feel like it's like believe, just believe, become the person, and then you apply that Authenticity like just kind of behind the scenes, more of Like being yourself. Yeah, being yourself, I think, believe, is definitely a pillar, and then you can apply that different ways. Yeah, I think there's gotta be something about like teamwork. There's no way that place runs without like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely, what else what?
Speaker 2:else Do you think elves clog the toilet?
Speaker 1:Oh, for sure. Well, I mean, are they using full size toilets or like?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I just have one of my small people as like a toilet plogger lately and it's not like something I think about. It would be funny if they clogged it.
Speaker 1:I don't, this is just a funny bathroom anecdote from today, because I was in the bathroom when this happened, like not on the toilet, but so I was brushing.
Speaker 2:I live in my bathroom. So if people are going to think that when we say I was amazing bathroom but that's why I'm like, if you are going to be like oh, I was in the bathroom, and they think automatically they go to like I shit my pants First of all, chill.
Speaker 1:I mean they're all the time I'm on FaceTime and they're all the time there's so many sinks and like, yeah, you have a great bathroom, but I was like gargling with like my mouthwash this morning and I like gargled a little too like I don't know what happened.
Speaker 2:And I ended up swallowing it, oh no. And I was like, can I tell you something about gut health? And this might not be true, but I heard this I'm going to say on the Joe Rogan podcast and I'm not proud of that, not good for you. It's not.
Speaker 1:It kills bacteria in your mouth, that it needs to be there, and I do it maybe once every two to three weeks. So that's what.
Speaker 2:I learned is that, like you, it's like the, it's actually the first part of your gut.
Speaker 1:Health is inside your mouth and I only do it with my mouth.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you ever have these days where it's just like I know we can have this conversation. That's why I was like, oh my gosh, we should talk about this.
Speaker 1:Like I can't get my mouth clean enough, like I don't know if you ever have these days Water pick no.
Speaker 2:I just got one two months ago Wait, hold on, we got to go back, we got to go back to the water pick. So the person was a pro an athletic trainer for pro athletes and he said the very first thing he does when he gets a new client is he walks into their house, he walks into their bathroom and he's like we're done with this and it's the very first thing he takes away, because there is a major connection to your gut health and mouthwash why do you think I freaked the f out when I swallowed it today?
Speaker 1:I was like, oh my god, it's not even supposed to be in my mouth and I freaking swore shitting your pants.
Speaker 2:I your pants.
Speaker 1:I was in there like dry heaving, like trying to get it out. Oh God, never done that, never Okay.
Speaker 2:So I recently bought a water pick which is for, like, old people. I think I don't even know, and I'm going to tell you this no less than 12 times, because my hand always hits the power button instead of the um, like, speed button. Have I shot myself in the face or my ceiling? I have no control. I know right, I have I fucked up my mascara one day. I like literally got myself, so I was like I fucking cannot is it like a pressure washer?
Speaker 2:for your teeth. Yes, but it takes off. I saw this thing on freaking Instagram and I went to Amazon and just bought the Amazon choice one version for like $29. Okay, it's like USB charge, you have like five settings, but the person kept like doing it and then spitting out so much more junk after they brushed their teeth and I was like, oh, I can't be walking around like this.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you, I get moments where I'm like I'll be riding in the car and I'm like I have got to brush my teeth like immediately.
Speaker 2:I will tell you this I am an obsessive tooth brushing. I don't know if I'm winning over the mouthwash thing because I have a set of toothbrush and toothpaste in my shower. Wash thing, because I have a set of toothbrush and toothpaste in my shower. I have one on my sink out here. I like love a good toothbrush, you know.
Speaker 1:I got a mouth problem. I have 587,000 flossers in my car. I'm like this is a thing.
Speaker 2:I know I have like an oral issue anyways, but like I am a toothbrusher hardcore, the minute I walk in from being outside I wash my hands and brush my teeth. Fun fact, I got a problem, I think.
Speaker 1:No, I'm glad that I'm not, cause I'm telling you it freaks me out Like I'll be riding the car. I'm like I need to stop it.
Speaker 2:The car really pushes me over the edge. I'm like we've got. I've got to brush my teeth. Right now I'm seeking out yes, yes, Yep, so you might enjoy a water pick. You might put two under the tree, one for you, one for me. But I have literally wrote it down Will you send me the one you got.
Speaker 2:Yes, I have shot my ceiling and my face on so many occasions. Now I don't put makeup on until I've done it, cause I just I'm so excited. I'm not under control with this thing. I make my gums bleed. I'm a real idiot with this thing.
Speaker 1:oh, I'm excited all right back to santa. Um, yes, pillars, I feel like santa would like innovation, like getting like new as things progress, and technology, because, like the world keeps changing, like?
Speaker 2:how do we talk about the fact that he is up against the fact that the world keeps changing?
Speaker 1:I know, I know that's what, because I feel like we're now in an era of more, you know, sustainability.
Speaker 2:Is it like self growth? Is it evolution? Is it like? I don't know? It's just like does he not care about growing?
Speaker 1:Surely he does.
Speaker 2:But he I like to imagine that he is keeping us grounded in not getting out of control.
Speaker 1:I would think so, he's Santa.
Speaker 2:I know. That's why I'm like I don't know if it's about self-growth, when do you think he drives? What does Mrs Claus drive?
Speaker 1:I'm just curious she drives a Lexus SUV 100%.
Speaker 2:I thought it was was gonna be a white range rover yeah or that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I feel like he's like like an f-250, like diesel what if she?
Speaker 2:oh, you're making him sound hot. This is the problem. Oh, is that what it is it's hers white, his is red. Yes, his is like burgundy. Yeah, you do. You know, I don't love the color burgundy. I don't either.
Speaker 1:I hate it okay, good, I hate, absolutely hate it but I hate it?
Speaker 2:I don't know I can't wear it, even I like. I met that.
Speaker 1:I was like one of my colors that she recommended and I do. I actually look quite nice in burgundy but I can wear red.
Speaker 2:I love a red. But like, why does burgundy? Why is it so annoying? It's's just bad. It is bad, it is why. Yeah, I don't know. I'm trying to find this water pick and I'm let me tell you so I'm making Santa be hot without really meaning to I know.
Speaker 2:This is why I'm like wondering if he isn't just a little bit like. I just feel like he's like there's a whole songs about him mommy kissing, santa claus. I think it would be okay if he was like a little bit. I don't mean like over the top, I just mean like something for the moms who's like.
Speaker 1:All right, you know how george, do you are?
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Speaker 1:And yes, I'm obsessed. So I picture like that kind of face, but with some scruff. So he's like handsome, yeah, but like older George Strait, yes, I've always. I mean he is just what's the guy in Yellowstone?
Speaker 2:He's hot too.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I haven't watched Yellowstone, but I know because you see it all over social.
Speaker 2:Yes, why can't I think of his name? I don't know. He's pretty hot too. He was hot in Field of Dreams. He was hot in that man. Come on and bodyguard Kevin Costner. Yes, I was like. I know it's a Kevin, he's sexy. Kevin Costner, for me, is definitely like if that was Santa. Let's give Santa a giant ranch like that. No, I don't know what you were about to say let's give Santa a giant.
Speaker 1:I was like, uh-oh, ranch in the mountains. Oh, my God, let's give Santa a giant ranch in the mountains.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, let's give Santa a giant ranch in the mountains, a very outdoorsy vehicle, and the reindeer are just like wandering around. Oh my God, I also learned the most amazing thing. Did you know that the reindeer are girls? Yes, I did know that. Okay, so I had seen the meme, but I was like, well, maybe this is just one of those like I didn't. I was like, so summit came home and said the reindeer are girls and I was like, before we take this too far, let's fact check this right. Yep, let's fact check this. So we asked chad gpt because that's how I fact check. And this is what it said Reindeer are the only deer where the girls and the boys grow antlers. However, the boys grow bigger antlers but the girls keep theirs. The boys lose theirs in late fall or very early winter. So, in fact, the ones that are on the sleigh at the end of December are girls.
Speaker 1:Girl power.
Speaker 2:Isn't that so interesting?
Speaker 1:It is so interesting.
Speaker 2:There could be a pink also. That's a great color because I bet that barn. I'm sure there's some studs out there that don't get to pull the team. We need some boys. I love this, but like and what are their names? Like, what are the studs called? We know who the main reindeer are, but like we could take this really far. I know, but like, could the barn have like a little bit of a pink? Oh for sure.
Speaker 1:Could they put little bows on their antlers?
Speaker 2:I know, and I feel like this is just like an earring Some of Mrs Claus works. She's got like the big boots on and the cute little red leggings and she goes out to check on the girls. How are the girls today? There's like so much fun with it, like did you check on the girls? How are the girls today?
Speaker 1:I love that we have branded Santa and he's hot with a ranch and, yeah, you can be hot and old and, like you know, have a.
Speaker 2:You can have a servant's heart and be hot. Hello, I know this is what I'm saying. I needed to be Kevin Costner. I just wanted to sit out on the ranch in the chair and be like I like this idea.
Speaker 1:I picture him in Wranglers. Yeah, You're not making him less hot. I was sitting here. I was like we're lusting over Santa.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm just saying like I think he's got a servant's heart, I that's. I'm sorry, but that might be part of my like. That's not the wrong. I don't think that's like the worst thing that we've ever talked about. No, for sure Not.
Speaker 1:All right, we got to wrap up. We've been an hour.
Speaker 2:I know I'm sorry, it's our last episode before Christmas.
Speaker 1:So Merry Christmas everyone. We hope your time is filled with love and food and family and boundaries.
Speaker 2:Boundaries. Yes, I hope that your holiday season is what you need it to be, Whatever that means. I hope that you find something in there that gives something to you and doesn't have to be an actual thing. I hope you find some of you in this season, some space, whatever it is.
Speaker 1:I love that, and don't forget the first two people to comment or message us. Is that what we're doing?
Speaker 2:You know what I'm going to put a post up. Put a post up.
Speaker 1:First two folks to drop into the DMs.
Speaker 2:There's a trick for you. We're sending you Audible credits.
Speaker 1:We have some cowboys speaking of branding santa, because if really we've decided and I'm gonna need to pick up the series because I want to catch up together, because I've read the first two, I'm gonna need you for sure okay, well, thank you all, wishing you a merry christmas and we will see you next week. Cheers.