Marketing & Mayhem
Two gals talking marketing, life, and all the mayhem in between.
Marketing & Mayhem
Dips, Divorce & Vampire Facials
Didn’t see this one coming. Remember that Philly cheesesteak dip we discussed? Guess who doesn’t love it … Jenny. But you’ll never guess why. This one starts with some deep belly laughs - maybe because we’re in marketing but, who here has been personally victimized by unclear packaging? In this case, Jenny openly admits to melting cheese for her dogs, but not for herself. What in the mayhem …
The “Miller vs Miller” emails are over. We’re divorced. And we’re in our feelings - about all the things. This one felt like an endurance race, tears and all. Of course - no one gets married and plans to get divorced. Let’s shed the stigma on this one - this is important - so we open the dialogue for an honest to goodness update on this new reality. Of course, as moms, we’re the example and we take those role so seriously (in work, in love, in life - and not everything is meant for forever).
Mel Robbin’s “Let Them” weaves its way back into our conversations. We’re shedding the weight of other people’s actions - AND we’re using Chat GPT to start our day with affirmations. Yes. Chat GPT - remember when we introduced you to it? We’re using it daily, borderline hourly. From ingredient lists, affirmations, stats, nonsense knowledge …it’s everything. But it won’t remind you to heat up your cheese dip …
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Hosted by @raebecca.miller and @jennyfromthe843
Good morning. Good morning, so we don't ever come to these podcasts with purpose.
Speaker 2:That's not true, I mean usually. We have intentions.
Speaker 1:Intentions okay, but much like all of our intentions, we choose a word right and we're like squirrel love it. So my type a heart is really excited that we have some things to talk about today. Well, it's been a minute, it's been a hot minute and maybe that's what it is like. I feel like when I don't see you and then we have like guests and we get like a moment to catch up, I'm like I got so many things to talk about. I know, I know All right, but I'm going to start with the bad news first.
Speaker 1:Well, it's my bad news? Oh yeah, we can start with yours, but mine is very trivial compared to yours. We can start with yours, but mine is very trivial compared to yours. Wait, no, do your bad news. Well, you're going to think that it's really stupid now.
Speaker 2:No news is news, first of all, as long as we're not watching the actual news.
Speaker 1:News is news. I don't like the Philly cheesesteak dip.
Speaker 2:I knew it because you didn't say anything to Kirsten and I.
Speaker 1:I know I knew you didn't. I really tried. I tried it on a chip, I tried it on a cracker, I tried it twice you heat it up no, I didn't heat it up ew what it's like.
Speaker 2:Queso dog. It's a queso dip. It's a cheese fucking. What are you doing? Oh my god, are you being funny? Ew, it's more, you're warming like queso. It's cheese dip. I'm gonna piss my pants. Oh my god does it say are you serious? Yeah, it's cheese I am hold on, let me, I'm crying. I have only eaten it warm. I was served it warm the first time. I've eaten it warm every time since. Otherwise it's kind of like boogery looking.
Speaker 1:Wait. Dude it doesn't say that.
Speaker 2:I was served it in a dish where it was bubbling hot and I have put it in the microwave. It's cheese, it's queso, I thought.
Speaker 1:I am dying. I know I did I did.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, hold on. Look at the sides in the back. It's kind of like squirrely looking without it being warmed up. Yeah, it wasn't great. It's cheese dip. When have you ever had a cold cheese dip, maybe like cheese whiz?
Speaker 1:wow, I'm really glad that we unpacked this on air so glad damn I I'm like dying that no, I have tears running down my face.
Speaker 2:It's fucking cheese dip dude even nate.
Speaker 1:I made him try it and I'm like, am I missing something? He was like that is not good. I'm like I didn't think so either it's queso with meat and jalapenos.
Speaker 2:Let's go back to the drawing board this evening and I will let you know if I like it or I don't know, I served it in a dish where it was like bubbling on the sides, and I don't know that because I was served it that way. I don't know if I ever thought about it, but I like think that Kirsten brought it like warmed to her event too. Why would you not say that it's cheese Dip, dipping cheese Like fondue? Queso Didn't get the memo. Nope, shoot, all right. Sometimes I'm the more literal person and I like miss something. I am dying. I know this is like so good, because usually if somebody is going to miss it on the literal part, it's going to be me, and then everyone's going to look at me and be like Rebecca and I'm like, oh shoot, was that? I missed it? But like the fact that I mean, I don't know, I would have to look online.
Speaker 1:The fact that we just figured this out while we're recording makes it even funny.
Speaker 2:It even looks different when you warm it.
Speaker 1:It was not good. I'm like what are they talking?
Speaker 2:about it's pizza with meat and jalapenos in it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, don't recommend not eating it.
Speaker 2:It's not a sour cream dip, you fucking put a chip in it. Would you buy the spinach artichoke dip and just put a chip in it there? I mean, I want that one too.
Speaker 1:I mean, I want that one too. I mean, yeah, I, I, I like cold spinach and artichoke dip.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I do, I don't know if I do.
Speaker 1:Actually, I just really like it Truly, the highlight of my week, I think, oh my God, that is funny, can?
Speaker 2:you please text Nate right now.
Speaker 1:I serious, I'm going to be like so apparently it sucks because you're supposed to hit it. Heat it up. Yeah, it's queso, okay, yep, well, there goes there, there you go. That sums, sums me up in a nutshell nailed it.
Speaker 2:how are you? I'm good. So we have bad news for the listeners, sad news for me. We had to put the bulldog down, which blows. Rest in peace, sweet girl RIP.
Speaker 1:I'm going to cry for a different reason.
Speaker 2:It got out of control fast. It was already kind of out of control, but then we went downhill pretty quickly. Their last what was it? Two weeks ago, so that sucked. So in turn, um, I am trying to train my dog, which I think is just going incredible. Are you being?
Speaker 1:facetious, or are you being for real?
Speaker 2:Well, it used to be a joke in my first marriage, like you know, like bad santa, where that kid's always like, do you guys want some sandwiches? Um, because, like I love to feed people and I like, like you know, my kids are used to this and like, whatever it's like a big deal, like, come over to my house, I'm gonna feed you. I just whatever new yorker, however, that works. So the trainer that I found, which, by the way, is a YouTube trainer, will Atherton, my friend Jonah found him. He also has a puppy. So we're like doing this kind of like chatting back and forth about this. It's all treat reliant, which I live for. Yeah, the dog is thriving. She is just eating the shit out of. She will dance the whole dance for you. But I'm like I don't actually know if we're learning anything or if you're just like obsessed with me feeding you treats. I just I kind of feel like that kid, like you guys want some sandwiches, do you want to to?
Speaker 1:sit. Yeah, I mean, if you do that with me, if you'd be like hey, Jenny, I'll give you like a cube of cheese. If you do this, I'll probably respond.
Speaker 2:She only likes one kind of treat because she's a div which I'm not even shocked by. We've gone through like 16 different kinds. We only like the peanut butter flavor pill pocket. Oh my God.
Speaker 1:Tani loves, oh my.
Speaker 2:God, tiny loves those. Oh yeah, the obsession's real. So we have two 30 packs and one 60 pack. They're everywhere in here. I am obviously like tearing them up in little pieces. She also slept in my bed last night, so I don't. I really don't know how that impacts training, but Ta-da.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's, you're supposed to get dogs to love on Right, so she's actually learning things. I think tiny is in his diva, so you know he's got heartworm, so we're dealing with all of that and we have given like four pills a day. Yeah, so it was the pill pockets that you just showed. Yeah, well, now he's figured out that there's medicine in them. Yeah, so nate was melting cheese and putting the pills inside the cheese.
Speaker 2:I love that you're melting Tiny Tim's food, but you're eating a Publix dip raw cold. The logic is really wild for me. I'm not trying to judge you, but we listen and we don't judge.
Speaker 1:But now Tiny has figured out that there's pills in the cheese, so now I'm having to make him a salting peanut butter sandwich cracker.
Speaker 2:Tiny's brilliant. He is brilliant. This man lived outside in the wilderness. He's just working you guys so hard. I know Sometimes what I will buy is you know at Costco how they have the packs of the mozzarella balls where it's like the three balls in a pack?
Speaker 1:Oh my God, I'm obsessed with them.
Speaker 2:That's what I put the pills in sometimes here. Oh, that's genius and what.
Speaker 2:I like to do is, because there's three in a pack, is hold a second one when I give them the pill one and they get so hyper-focused on the second one because they want that second one that they chuck back the pill one and then they take the one that doesn't have the pill. Look at you, dog whisperer, a big fan of the mozzarella balls. Well, sissy also figured out that her UTI because we were on our 20-day UTI medication. She actually took it out of the pill packet twice this week, set it on the floor, I picked it up and then she ate it raw out of my hand. I was like what in God's name are you doing? I picked it up and then she ate it raw out of my hand. I was like what in God's name are you doing? What in the boxer universe? Is that logic?
Speaker 1:Yeah, nate's like look, he's like well, you need to melt cheese. I was like I'm going to be.
Speaker 2:No, this is wild. Get the mozzarella balls hold the placebo, hand the pill one, and they're just going to be dying for that second one, and they snatch them both.
Speaker 1:I, you're just going to be dying for that second one. And they snatch them both, I know, but I freaking got boozy too, so now I have to make him a peanut butter sandwich cracker. This is crazy, oh my gosh. And by the way, this is usually in the morning or the evening when I'm trying to get out the door or trying to get dinner cooked.
Speaker 2:No, I highly recommend the mozzarella balls trick.
Speaker 1:Give me the mozzarella.
Speaker 2:They are greedy.
Speaker 1:I love those mozzarella balls trick because they're green, I love those mozzarella balls.
Speaker 2:I put them in the lunches every day I put two in everyone's lunch.
Speaker 1:That's a good idea. Clark is not a cheese girl, which means she's probably not my child.
Speaker 2:I mean they come back sometimes, which annoys me.
Speaker 1:Well, we are going to miss your girl, but she is in a better place.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think she was in a better place. Yeah, I think she was really starting not to. That's the vet. And I said I love my vet. I go to Park West Vet or sorry, not Park West Vet, pet Vet on Shem Creek. We used to go to Park West Vet. The veterinarian cried when we were putting Bindi down, which I just think.
Speaker 2:I grew up in a veterinary hospital. My mom is a vet tech. She established some really cool programs with the main vet at the hospital that she works in in Hilton. I nannied for him. We were deeply embedded in that. I spent a million days going to other people's houses or into the animal hospital to help with puppies or all that stuff. But there's so much compassion from them. I just feel like the world could use just a little bit more empathy and like, do you know that being a veterinarian has one of the highest suicide rates? Yes, really True story, one of the highest suicide rates. And then I was thinking about that and it doesn't shock me because, like, the majority of their job is like. It doesn't shock me because, like, the majority of their job is like has to be empathetic because they're animals. You can't be a total like lack of empathy person and work with animals all day. My vet loves this puppy too. He's so funny about her, but he's like these ears are so funny she is so funny.
Speaker 1:Clark's dying to come see her. I should always show her your picture.
Speaker 2:Cause I'm working with the training, so we're going to bring people in, we're going to get our life together. Because she got away with murder, because the older dog was so much work, yeah, she had to get a new food bowl. I realized the other day when she was eating. I was like why is her food bowl so small? Food bowl so small and like she had other big bowls but she has an, a neater feeder, yeah, okay. So I was like this is looking out of scale. So I upgraded her. So I'm gonna go put the baby one on the buy nothing with shoes with clark.
Speaker 1:I legit took her to. I've had her in a six and a half I think I've talked about this for women's, a women's six and a half, I think I've talked about this before A women's, a women's six and a half. I took her to a room. I mean, I've had her in a six and a half since, like last summer and we're what. No way I took her to a back room. She's in the eight.
Speaker 2:We wear the same size shoe. I'm so bad at shoes with her I have a spark with the same size shoe as me.
Speaker 1:She just got. We got big feet. I mean I'm an eight and a half, but yeah, then you don't have big feet.
Speaker 2:I can wear an eight or an eight and a half.
Speaker 1:I was like that too. I was. My mom used to call me like olive oil when I was growing up.
Speaker 2:You remember from Popeye, that's such a mean thing to say Because I was like tall and skinny and big feet. I can't get excited about this, but yes, I do know.
Speaker 1:She's built like I was at that age.
Speaker 2:I'm sure your mom meant it in a really nice way. Yeah, I'm sure so what else?
Speaker 1:what else have you had this week? Cause I also have not seen you since I got married. God.
Speaker 2:Well, so I, um, I also am officially divorced. You know I like to joke that my divorce attorney who, by the way, I highly recommend you will need to reach out to me privately if you want his information, because I'm not going to share it on air for two reasons. Get out of that plant. I swear to God, I'm down to two fucking plants.
Speaker 1:See, at least Donnie doesn't eat plants, he just eats everything else in my home.
Speaker 2:She gets in the dirt and then rips the roots out, so she needs more dirt. But I'm sorry, I'm not going to recommend him on the air for two reasons. Not because he's not incredible I have a sneaking suspicion that my divorce attorney is somewhere on the spectrum. I read the email. I would. No, I've said this our entire time, and he was recommended to me by a friend and I met with a few attorneys, but she was like this person I need you to understand is never going to give you any emotion, like you are.
Speaker 2:There was a moment when I was first meeting with him where he said you have a lot of questions. There's a frequently asked questions page on my website. I suggest you spend some time there. Okay, I mean like my world is like falling apart. I was like, oh God, I couldn't do that. Well, but I was like, well, it'll probably save me some money. I'll tell you what, though the lack of emotion was exactly what I needed. Yeah, when the email came across which, by the way, I've been waiting for because I knew it was coming soon it literally says Rebecca, you are divorced. It said I will get your divorce decree in the mail in two business days, but it literally says Rebecca, you are divorced. And I was like it's a pleasure.
Speaker 1:It was very abrupt and final.
Speaker 2:Yes, I told you the last time I met with him in person. He gave me a compliment and he was like you know what I enjoyed working with you. You're smart and you're not crazy. And I was like that is probably one of the nicest compliments that this man has ever given anyone nicest compliments that this man has ever given anyone. I'm taking it. I'm taking it, sir. I hope you enjoyed your paycheck and thank you. You kind of have to be right. I feel like no, there's so many who like because it's a business, and I met with quite a few attorneys who you could tell it is their business. So they're going to fight, fight, fight, fight, cash, cash, cash, cash all day long. And I don't think that my heart could have gone through the emotional back and forth of like no, there were things I wanted, and he was like that's unrealistic.
Speaker 1:I was like I wonder if I would go. I think I'd go after like a bulldog, like I'd want somebody who'd be like hell.
Speaker 2:no, go after like a bulldog, like I'd want somebody. He'd be like hell, no, like like there were things where, when they said it, there were two times where they came up with something from the other side and he didn't even ask me for my opinion. He was like we will not be doing that and I was like see, greg talks to you the same way that he talks to me. That's what I like. I'm not here because I did what I didn't want is somebody who's going to be like we should. You know what, if that's important to you, we're going to try to get it.
Speaker 1:And then we drag it out. You're right, that's a good point.
Speaker 2:And then you don't get it. But then you spend another two grand and I'll tell you what if I never see another Miller versus Miller email in my fricking life, I will rest easy. And so stressful because you're just like what is it going to be? What is it going to be? Ugh, we've got something, pure joy.
Speaker 1:Come on, boys.
Speaker 2:The Miller versus Miller email chain did not bring me joy. Well, how are you feeling? Well, I actually cried really hard, which took me by surprise because I have not been very emotional. But I will say this I was thinking about it. I was like what in the frick was that Like? As soon as I read it.
Speaker 2:But I also used to be an endurance athlete this is the only way I can think of this. Like 70 mile races, a hundred mile races that was my thing. Like you need somebody to swim two miles? Cool? Um, this fricking dog has my shoe Hold on. And at the finish line of every single one of those races I have always cried and there were always a lot of tears, and it was never because I was mad that I did it or I was sad that I did it. I just think when I'm that tired and I finally do finish something that big, that is basically how I react. So it's just like a release. Yeah, that's very much what it felt like. But I was like this reminds me of how I felt, cause then once I like it wasn't even a long cry, but it was a hard cry, and then I just like well, that's that.
Speaker 1:That's that well, I will say your posts that you did were beautiful, because I think that that's I do.
Speaker 2:I was wondering what you would think, because you remember when I posted the Travis Kelsey thing you're like I would not have done that.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't have, but like the way you framed it with the seriousness of you know, we had a beautiful wedding, we had a beautiful life. We can still move forward. I just want to do better for my kids and show them different. I just I love the messaging of it because I do think and I don't think it is anymore, but there has been a stigma attached with divorce.
Speaker 2:I think for sure there's a lot of shame. Like people still have like these big reactions and I'm like nobody gets married thinking that they're going to get divorced ever. And like we have pictures where we like look great and we're having fun. It's not like we were like miserable every day, but at the end of the day there was enough bigger things that were like this is not a good example for our kids. Yeah so, but like we have even like some of the wedding pictures. I'm like you know that's a little unfair Cause. Like those are my.
Speaker 2:I mean, I loved my wedding photos, I loved my. My friends were like this is the most. Like we did all kinds of non-traditional things at my wedding. They're like this is the most. And when I told especially some of my high school friends that I was getting divorced, I have a very close friend named Jenny um in New York and she was like you were my favorite couple and I was like I, that was a lot of people's reactions, right, and I was like we had a really good dynamic but it wasn't always good. And of course you add kids and life and you move and family stress and then people grow or don't grow and at the end of the day, I'm proud of not holding on to something that wasn't meant for forever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Well, and you know, I think we all I mean obviously kind of being along with you this past year, yeah, and it's just it's not easy, and it's not an easy thing to do. I think it's almost easier. Well, it is easier to stay in a bad, you know, relationship or one that you're not completely satisfied with, and just to see how well you've handled it and it just it's really hard and you've pushed through and you've just done all the things.
Speaker 2:It is actually crazy hard. I there are things that I will never, ever tell with divorce women. So, like, one thing that people kept saying to me was like well, the next part's going to be the hardest. After I got the attorney. I wish that nobody said that to me. I just think that is.
Speaker 2:I hate how people it's this weird mentality about anything that's hard right, starting a business. They do the exact same thing, right? Well, have you thought about this? You know what our advice to you would be if you're going to start a business, just do it. Yes, you will figure it out. It's not going to be perfect. You're not going to do it all too. It changes every day.
Speaker 2:Don't let some random old person tell you to write your business plan first and make that stop you. Like whatever is going to stop you, I highly suggest you skip it and circle back. Don't sit there and not do it if it's calling you Yep, like I just. And so for me and I think this is more true for women making the decision was the harder part. Right, it didn't get less ugly for a second, but like the years where I was like I don't know if I want to do this when I'm 60 or 70 or 80. I wonder how my daughters feel about that. I wonder, like I I maybe not being fully honest with my friends or my parents. I don't know if I liked that part about me. All of those pieces were much scarier than going through the process, even though the Miller versus Miller emails made me want to throw up and I did on multiple occasions, I'm sure like it's that I hated that.
Speaker 2:Everyone's like it's going to get a little harder, like shut the fuck up. Yeah, honestly, that's the kind of stuff you don't need, like you. You need people to be like. If it feels hard, call me. If you need a coffee, call me. Like you need people. My friends were great. Like they kept bringing us to 4th of July parties or whatever it was. At the same time, you know we have multiple houses where all of our girls grew up together and we would go and we weren't weird about it. I mean, there were definitely times where I maybe wanted to really act a little wild, but it's not healthy for me and it's not healthy for the girls. We showed up as co-parents, we verbally committed to this before we even got into it and, like our friends have done the exact same thing. It's not easy on anyone, but we have a good support system.
Speaker 1:I'm very proud of you. I feel like just seeing. I mean cause you know my parents are divorced and they are happily remarried now. But it's just changed so much since then. You know we talk in the 80s, 90s and then again being a daughter on the receiving end of it, like I'm just, I'm really proud of you. It is.
Speaker 2:I will tell you it has been. I'm proud of myself and I'm allowed to say that I there was. There's some things I still. You know. The bulldog's death actually brought up a lot of anger for me but at the end of the day.
Speaker 2:It's just like I want all those emotions now to come out and surface and then move on. But I just I, I'm not going to live in them. It's like a weird dirty diaper, like I'm, whatever it is. You know, this has been an interesting week with even like family right now and I'm like, let them, I just keep going back to this. It's not so good, right, you're just like that is a you thing and learning that even from Izzy, that therapist that I had that like hey, you actually cannot control their behavior, but you have to make a decision about whether or not that's a fit for you, right?
Speaker 1:Let them.
Speaker 2:Let them.
Speaker 1:There you go. That's a fit for you, right? Let them. Let them. So I have. We always talk about chat, gbt and the beautiful uses of it. Yes, guess what I've started using it for now? Ooh what Daily affirmations, oh what are you saying to?
Speaker 1:it, and so that's just. I need a daily affirmation today, and today I asked it to give me one, utilizing the Mel Robbins. Let them theory Ooh Yep, and it said ready. Let them underestimate you, let them doubt you, let them question your path. Their opinions do not define your potential. You are building something real, something meaningful, and you don't need permission to succeed. Something meaningful and you don't need permission to succeed. Keep moving forward with confidence, knowing that your work, your passion and your integrity will speak louder than anything else.
Speaker 2:And isn't that the truth, though?
Speaker 1:I mean Chad GPT. You were like my biggest cheerleader. I love Chad GPT. Maybe I should have asked him if I needed to heat up the deep.
Speaker 2:I'm going to be laughing about this all week, though it's queso. When you eat it, it's like never use the word queso cheese dip well, there's like pimento cheese dip and you eat meat. There's meat in it. I don't I mean like would you eat cold hamburger, I just can't even with how stupid and funny this is.
Speaker 2:It's not stupid, but it is really funny. I just like I the one thing I have absolutely learned, whether it's in the last year or forever, and I'm still learning it, because I had a thing happen this week and it took me about 24 hours to even get my mind to the let them place. But I'm like man, people are going to work so hard to give you their insecurities and their triggers and they don't even realize how much they are shelling out, whether it's negative or doom or whatever, and I'm like it's just not for me. And I'm not poly positive, but like. I saw this the other day on Instagram and I think this is worth talking about.
Speaker 2:One of the weirdest things about living by yourself is that you realize in your daily life that you are used to a certain amount of validation. Right, like when you live with your parents, you get like, oh, you should think about doing it this way. Oh, you shouldn't think about doing it this way. Or like, okay. So like people are watching your college application deadlines. Or like people are coming to your sports when you live alone zero, which is wild. So, like you change your eye shadow, no one gives two fucks. No, your hair, you come home. No one's like oh, your hair looks pretty. So for a little bit that gets like weird and lonely. And then you get to the part where you're like this is I'm actually really powerful because, like I don't get that from anywhere, I'm not going to quickly replace it, right, I don't want to just like bring someone in a stand in to give me validation.
Speaker 1:Um, I've been really careful about like, not just like jumping into stuff, but but I will say that, just because you are like I don't live alone, yeah, you are like I don't live alone.
Speaker 2:And I mean, that is not like words of affirmation, is not my husband's strong suit.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think men are good at words of affirmation, but I do think Hang on. I got to tell you this story. You'll get a kick out of this. So the other night we're eating dinner I made a delicious meal, healthy, beautiful. You warmed it up for everyone, you made it warm a delicious meal, healthy, beautiful. You warmed it up for everyone. You made it warm. Yes, it was warm salmon. Yes, I'm like Nate. How is it Go to? It's good. I finally had just had enough of that I said can we not find another adjective than it's good.
Speaker 1:How about we do it before? I ask, because I actually mean. He said, well, I mean, what do you want me to say? It's really good. I'm like, hang on, let's ask, chat GPT. So I want to chat GPT for that too. And it gave me all kinds of compliments that he can say taste and flavor, about my effort and skill, about my emotional connection. Let's go, okay. One of them is your cooking always makes me feel loved and taken care of. There you go, boom, boom. Your cooking makes even an ordinary day feel special. I like if I said this, you'd be like no, I want you to say it.
Speaker 1:I'm like, let's not use that as an excuse. Let's dig a little deeper.
Speaker 2:I want him to say it before you ask.
Speaker 1:I will say you just get on my nerves about it.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, Nate, you're amazing. I'm just saying set the tone for these boys. Come on, there is something about it, though, where, like that, even just talking about kids' sports or like their day is weirdly like alone, because you're like I mean, the kids will say funny stuff and I'm like no one else even realizes this is wild. So, like Summit won an award at school. So this week mr sims called me and he was like well, first he said it just said charleston county. And so I was like hello. He was like miss miller. And of course I said who is this? Because of my new york was like sir, get it out what. He started laughing. He goes, it's Mr Sims. And I was like oh no, what's wrong? And he was like actually, summit has won an award. And so I was calling to tell you about it. And I was like all right.
Speaker 2:And so with the award, she won pizza with the principal, which, by the way, she has been trying to earn since her first day of kindergarten. She's obsessed with pizza with the principal, she loves Mr Sims and she actually wants to be a principal when she grows up. So she, I was like does she know yet? Like she's going to go insane. Oh, I love that. Like pizza with the principal, what she's always like, yeah, and I see them bring the pizzas and their Costco pizza Hell yeah, man, get it girl. So she's like I want you. Summit doesn't have to bring a lunch on Friday, she has pizza. And I was like do you know that? This is he? So he's dying laughing because he's like, really Cause she never says anything. I'm like right, that's why we call her the sauce. It's like something out of an Italian mafia movie. I'm like Joy Bologna, you know, like Tony Bologna, joy Bagadona, it's in the sauce, she's not going to break character for you. Like she is 100% Scorpio, all black, everyday mafia. Like she's not.
Speaker 1:I'm so glad that she won it, though. So so do you know what?
Speaker 2:she won it for what? Bodily and emotional control, which is also, by the way, the most summit elise miller mafia award ever. I was like he's like she has been recognized by her teacher and other teachers for keeping an extreme amount of control over herself.
Speaker 2:That means her voice, listening to directions, her hands, her feet, as a first grader, and I was like this doesn't shock me at all, this, I'm telling you, when we joke that her name is the sauce, there's a reason that's so fun and hilarious I mean when he started crying when I told her she's like that is the most summit award ever bodily in what control, emotional control, like she's like you're not coming for me, she's not breaking character, she's not gonna get real wild riled up like our other kids don't either, but like this is an extreme situation oh my god that's amazing she's the person when we're at stuff where somebody says something crazy and she'll look at me and just tilt her head.
Speaker 2:I'm like I know, dude. I will tell you this we went to a stingrays game which I haven't been to, and I don't know why we should go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's been a gazillion years.
Speaker 2:Okay, I've never been to a stingrays one, I've been to hockey before. Yeah, I bought second row tickets because, of course, I'm trying to fall in love.
Speaker 1:Obviously You're trying to be a roaming. It's novel.
Speaker 2:Well, and I'm like we. I love law. I remember how we say I love live music. It turns out I like live anything. I like live Muay Thai, I like hockey Same all day. So we're right on the glass, like we can see them. They take their Pallette's, like do you think they're cold or hot? They take their helmet off. Their hair is all sweaty. The goalie is doing splits. She's like that's amazing. We saw a big fight right in front of us.
Speaker 1:That's my favorite Hockey fight is my favorite.
Speaker 2:We went into double overtime. They had to do a shootout and then some of the fans were really trash team and Pat's like, well, I mean, we are going to need people to come here if we want to actually compete and I'm like I know my girls and I are just like we're not getting riled up in the you suck stuff and she's like that's called. You know like somebody has to come here if you want to play a game so sensible, I know she's like it's ridiculous. They're eating giant, you know stingrays. Buckets of freaking popcorn, they're like $20 each.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's ridiculous. So did you fall in love at stingrays?
Speaker 2:No, but I had the best time and we have a puck.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's so fun.
Speaker 2:I know I did not catch it. To be fair, I will tell you this. It came flying over the top and the man next to me caught it and gave it to me. Oh that and gave it to me. Oh, that's good. Yeah, I think he might be like ticket holders, because they were like decked out and they were. You could just tell that they were there a lot and you could tell that we had never been.
Speaker 1:And he was like let me help you guys out. Oh, that's cute. Yeah, we I haven't taken clark to a hockey game yet, but I love live anything like. I hate watching golf. I hate golf, but I would watch golf in person would you? I've never watched golf in person yeah, I've seen gone to like the BMW classic and that one on QA and yeah, I've gone to several golf we got to go golfing this summer.
Speaker 2:That's one of our things. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:I'm so excited we've got to figure out how to record.
Speaker 2:So while we're doing it, though, because I think that'll be a hoot- I've now was it up on Instagram 19,000 times, but I think we definitely have to go. Do not practice before. No, no, I mean I haven't held a golf club since I was like eight and probably shouldn't have.
Speaker 1:You don't putt, putt, ma'am.
Speaker 2:No, I don't. It's right up there with trivial pursuit. What A man asked me on a date to go bowling, First of all.
Speaker 1:I love bowling.
Speaker 2:Not a chance. What With you? I'll go, but what if I end up liking this man? Now, your hands have been, your fingers have been, inside of the three holes of a bowling ball. You're not touching my food. I'm going all the ways. You're not touching my, okay, you're not touching my food. You're not touching my drink. You're not touching my hand. You're not touching my face or anything else. No, we are not going bowling. That's like six times.
Speaker 2:And I was like is there any particular reason that you cannot come up with a different date, which, by the way, we never went on a date. I think that's going to cute, though. No, and so you? No, it was aggressive. And so then he was like well, I'm just really good at bullying. And I was like, again, typically for like a first date, I don't know if we should just go to do something that you're incredible at. That I'm obviously insecure about. And although that's like the best case scenario for the two of us, and he's like will you go Boeing?
Speaker 2:And then I blocked him. Interesting, I will tell you. There was one other reason that I blocked him. Okay, can you say it on air now? Yeah, yeah, for sure. I said something about like parking in a parking garage, I know, because it's very stressful. It's so stressful. He said this let me guess your ex-husband did everything for you and I, knowing how much I did and how I like many jobs I have like, whether it's the freaking shrubs or the laundry or the cooking or all my other incomes and jobs and whatever I took everything in my body. I was already red flagged over the bullying obsession but like you're wild and then that earned a lot.
Speaker 1:I would have come through the phone. It took.
Speaker 2:I don't have words for it. It wasn't recently, ugh.
Speaker 1:It was foul. Yeah, I don't like that at all All right, who said that?
Speaker 2:meanwhile, on my hinge, an 18 year old said yesterday that he would beg for me. So I'm not saying 18's a little young, agreed, I didn't even know you would be on a hinge at 18, but I did have a really good laugh about it because I was like and this folks, is the difference, oh my gosh, between the 65 year olds asking if you work and the 18 year olds like what, in god's name?
Speaker 2:oh my gosh but, and for everyone's for the record, I would never, ever, ever, ever an 18 year old. I have friends who have 18-year-olds, but like but you're 25, right, I'm 25. I would say 28 is my current comfort level. 28 is like that's still like, it's like 13 years.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, how old am I?
Speaker 2:Yes, 13 years.
Speaker 1:Don't ask me to math this morning.
Speaker 2:No, don't, Please don't. But he definitely said I would beg for you and I was like I'm going to actually take that. Well, let's go back.
Speaker 1:Why is?
Speaker 2:an 18-year-old, a hinge. I think they actually like, do this commonly. They also do like Tinder and Bumble and all the things. It's not for me obviously.
Speaker 1:I have laid to. I I have no idea. I mean it ain't like an 18 year old's trying to settle on down.
Speaker 2:No, I know he probably liked your mcdonald's thing I did have another one who literally was like this. It was probably, like, I think, 24. He said um, this is the realest thing I've ever read. I'm gonna be honest with you. He was 29, actually. Okay, that's good, that's a perfect age. Realest thing I've ever read. I'm going to be honest with you he was 29, actually Okay that's good.
Speaker 2:That's a perfect age Realest thing I've. I love. Half of my friends are like what? And the other half of my friends are like that's perfect for you. Yeah totally, but I feel like I'm going to be young, 41.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I feel like we are young in our heads. Absolutely Our skincare. I'm still 16 in my head. I started taking creatine. You know I've been doing some research about that, thank you, because.
Speaker 2:I did tell a man that I started taking creatine and they're like, you know, you're just going to bloat up. It's for bloating and I was like no, it's not.
Speaker 1:Who talks to you like this.
Speaker 2:Men and you know damn well, jenny, that I love to say stuff for them to show their true colors. It is like a bait and shoot program, I'm going to tell you I don't know.
Speaker 1:But damn God, these people are stupid. Stupid, it's so good.
Speaker 2:And so of course I was like it is kind of for muscle and water weight if you use it the way that men use it. But actually I've been reading a lot about women taking taurine and creatine specifically because apparently after, like in our 30s, we could lose up to 8% of muscle mass a year.
Speaker 1:I know I don't play with muscles.
Speaker 2:No, and that's exactly how we end up with broken bones and broken hips and broken everything, and not being able to like have good balance as you get older.
Speaker 1:I mean that's huge. I mean you see, I mean a lot of old people fall for that very reason they don't have the balance. So that's one of the things I work on too is like just my balance on my right foot.
Speaker 2:Right, and like they're saying also that creatine and taurine is, they're drastically showing a change in your cognitive loss. So, like which, I do not want to go down bat shit crazy. I mean, it's my biggest fear, same. So I was like, oh, if it's creatine, well, let's say I gained two pounds. Cool, I literally couldn't care less. If I can keep my brain intact, I'm going to be chewing creatine all day long.
Speaker 2:Let me know which one you, you try, so I'm going to bring it over. I got, of course, I got targeted once I started researching it for one.
Speaker 1:Cause there's one at Costco that I've been wanting to try. Is it a gummy? No, no, this is a gummy.
Speaker 2:Okay, so it's called create. Have you seen these?
Speaker 1:Yes, I'll also get targeted for them, cause I was doing research about it as well.
Speaker 2:Well, they're on um Amazon also, so then I can return it. But I bought the green one. I took my first one today, the sour apple. We will see how it goes. I wanted to make sure it wasn't going to make me feel bloated or anything. Only took one. I think you can take up to two to three, but I was like we're just starting out here. I don't know you're doing that it's really yummy.
Speaker 2:I really don't want to lose my mind and I do not want to end up in the broken hip camp same, I'm telling you I like it scares me.
Speaker 1:So I texted nate about the dip real quick and he said ah, I can see how that would make a difference. I'm going to be laughing about this all weekend.
Speaker 2:I mean like maybe now you won't like it because of how you started off, but there's a drastic difference. Like when I open it when it's cold, I'm like wolf, okay, don't recommend I mean, and I knew you didn't like it because you didn't say a word, but I was like it'll come up. But I definitely don't think it was meant to be even cold, like uh-huh, yeah, well, it makes sense.
Speaker 1:Now I'll.
Speaker 2:I'll circle back later on this you'll have to come over and try these. They taste like um sour patch kids. Oh which I. Once. I heard that I was into it, I'm like, yeah, sign me up. They're not cheap.
Speaker 1:Not proud of that? No, they're not uh-uh, because I had them in my cart and I was like god.
Speaker 2:This is seems excessive, but I know, but there's 90 in a pack, yeah, so I'm like I don't mind giving it. I literally will return this to Amazon if it makes me like 2D or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've been taking like medicine that I am addicted to. I'm going to take an airborne.
Speaker 2:Oh, I had an airborne moment. Oh my God.
Speaker 1:It's so good for you, but like I'm like I love this stuff.
Speaker 2:I think there's really good stuff in it.
Speaker 1:Well, because the flu and we just got back from Disney where I suppose norovirus was like running rampant. I'm like I'm not trying to be shitting my pants.
Speaker 2:Everybody I know is either crapping their pants or has the flu.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I'm like I ain't trying to do any of that. So I've been airborne for about a week and a half now and I am a hook on sinker.
Speaker 2:I'm obsessed.
Speaker 1:I love it.
Speaker 2:I started using the nose spray again because everyone has the damn flu. I'm like this cannot, we can't be doing this.
Speaker 1:I hate nose spray. I don't like it.
Speaker 2:I don't like it. No, no one likes it, but what I don't want is anything growing up there. I'm glad that you started researching this creatine thing. I think we should get somebody on here to talk to us about this?
Speaker 1:I would love that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll look for that Because I do think. I mean, there's so much research that goes to show that any of that kind of research typically is done on men, right? We know this from Stacey Sims Typically done on men because it's a lot easier to research them, because they don't have a period cycle and then in our age group they don't have the change of an already non-typical period cycle, right? So a lot of the old exercise methodology and like supplement methodology was really just based on men ages I think it's 25 to 32, because they're the easiest to measure, like they're just very easy, simple creatures to measure. However, taking that research and just generally applying it to women, we've now realized is actually stupid.
Speaker 1:We shifted from the you need to be skinny, focus to you need to be strong. Like I'm telling you, I was at the gym this morning and we did this like partner thing where you like rotate who does bands and like pulls against the other one, and the girl with me she was like holy shit. She was like you are so strong and I'm like thank you. That is like, yeah, ever get, just in case. I need to ever kick somebody on hinges.
Speaker 2:I oh yeah, no, but remember Stacy Sims was the first one that said women are not small men. Right, Like they're just not. Like that's not who we are. That's a crazy thing to act like you can just apply that universally. We are completely different with bone density or the way our bodies like changes, we age. We're up against a literal period Like men can actually add years to their life by giving blood frequently. That's like a real thing. What? Yeah, Because it it forces your body to replenish natural we don't have to.
Speaker 1:Why would we have to? We already have a period.
Speaker 2:I mean it's good for it's good in general, but like we actually have like a semi-cleansing system, just naturally.
Speaker 1:Okay, can we talk about blood for a second? Sure, yeah, let's get dirty. Have you read about these like platelet?
Speaker 2:facials? Um is this with the like needles everywhere or where they put the platelets on you? I think, it they like. Is it micro needling or platelets? I think it's platelets no, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Hang on a second because I read one of the spas, because you know I follow 800 okay, the vampire facial.
Speaker 1:It's a type of facial that uses your own blood to rejuvenate your skin. It involves in drawing a small amount of your blood, then spinning it in a centrifuge to separate the platelets from the rest of your blood. These platelets are rich in growth factors that help stimulate collagen production and promote healing. So I'm like, should we do this? Yeah, sure it sounds disgusting. But yes, I wonder. That's why I want to talk to you about it, because I'm like would she do this? Yeah, sure it sounds disgusting but, yes, does I wonder?
Speaker 2:that's what I want to talk to you about, Cause I'm like would she do this? Oh yeah, I also saw a thing the other day. Have you seen the scar tape that people use? Yes, I've used it. Okay, well, people are starting to use it where they have wrinkles, because it regenerates collagen, because it's the tape that you put over scars, and so they're taping it around their eyes, and I was like what, why haven't we thought of this? I know. So I was like we got to talk about this because I actually think there might oh my, God, I'm going to add some more to my cart right now.
Speaker 2:Because I had good scar treatment. Yes, and it literally. It basically adds collagen to specific areas so that your scars don't reduce the appearance. Basically adds collagen to specific areas so that your scars don't reduce the appearance, but apparently it will do it on wrinkles Shut up. And you know, I'm all about some kind of like half crunchy version of whatever you can do.
Speaker 1:I love that we say that and then we're like nails and all of the things that we say I had a nail accident a week ago.
Speaker 2:It was absolute, absolute brutality.
Speaker 1:It happened to me too. I'm going to send you a picture of it. Mine ripped my entire like pinky nail bed off Sucks so bad.
Speaker 2:I also did buy a magnesium spray that I use on. It's an oil I use on my feet. I'm using it on my feet when I go to bed.
Speaker 1:guys, how is that working for?
Speaker 2:you, god knows, but I'm doing it. Do you have a hard time sleeping there?
Speaker 1:well, I mean, I have a hard time getting to sleep okay my brain's a busy brain listen, sister, god darn we were on the opposite.
Speaker 2:Yours, your bed, but wakes up. Mine won't go to bed and won't wake up. Yes, my.
Speaker 1:So we were on. We were on a ride at Epcot last week. It was Journey into Figment, like the imagination. And there's this part of the ride where you like, go in this room and it's like black light and all like glow in the dark. All these crazy things spinning Things are on the ceiling and it's like wild. I looked over at Nate. I'm like this is what my brain is inside.
Speaker 2:Oh, there's like oh okay, I posted a reel the other day and I was like this is exactly what I feel. It was like a person doing research and they were like you know what it was. They heard the Enrique Iglesias. What is his song? Can I Be your Hero, baby? Yeah, and he was like gosh, I feel like that was on one of my now CDs. And then he did the research to figure out. I was like I'm now 14. And then he was like how many now CDs are there? And then it went and I was like this is exactly why sometimes, yes, it's 90 minutes later and I can be on your trivial pursuit, but I'm like, oh, it's definitely supposed to be somewhere. Oops, and this is exactly why, too, I get scared to go on real dates, because I'm like I don't know if you are fully prepared.
Speaker 2:So, like a cute boy, I started talking to somebody on hinge and he was like do you work? Which annoyed me. He's a little older, because I'm trying to go outside of my regular category. Um, and if you, can we not get more interesting topics? I'm trying to go outside of my regular category.
Speaker 1:Can we not get more interesting topics?
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, no, no, I agree, but I think he was trying to feel out if I actually like worked. So I, of course, blasted right back and I was like I don't get alimony, I do not get child support, everything that I have is something that I have earned, and also one of my favorite jobs makes no money, and so I was like this is either going to make this person unmatch or he's going to ball up and figure out how to have a real conversation. Because I was annoyed. Clearly you can tell when I'm acting out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, you don't hot it. We're going to lunch on monday. Oh, I love that isn't that funny.
Speaker 2:And then I was like a little bit annoyed because I was like, is lunch a cop-out?
Speaker 1:no, okay, thank you why did he ask you to lunch? I feel like that's a good one. No, he did ask me lunch because let me tell you why. Okay lunch, I feel like that's a good one. No, he did ask me to lunch Because let me tell you why. I feel like lunch is more casual. It's not as much pressure as a dinner. There's usually not alcohol involved, which I think is better when you're on a first date situation. Good yeah, I feel like that's great.
Speaker 2:I just had a moment where I was like am I not special enough for?
Speaker 1:a dinner? No, absolutely not. If I were a guy, I would 100% do lunch. If I would ask girls to a meal.
Speaker 2:Well, and I'm going to dress for lunch, by the way, too.
Speaker 1:Okay, what does that mean?
Speaker 2:I don't know, but it doesn't mean dress like I would for dinner. Well, yeah, it's going to be like more casual, right? Yeah, for sure, okay, okay, would you wear leggings or jeans? I mean, girl, you know me, I'd wear leggings, but I think you should wear jeans. I'm gonna wear leggings, are you? I was going to? I mean, it looks cute with your little crop. It's like at a barbecue place. Yeah, right, sneakers and leggings and jeans or leggings, that a little crop, and I'll just be like my normal day to day. Like you know, I have 9 million jobs, like you. We've talked enough. Although he's very careful, we only go back and forth maybe two or three times a day, which is good. It's not like that obsessive. Yeah, um, but I'm like I'm going to show up the person that exactly what I told you like I'm going to have to run to gymnastics after and do all the things. So I need to be like my normal self.
Speaker 1:I love that. I feel like I'm coming out the gate as you Great.
Speaker 2:Self. But just not like the elevated version, just like my normal day to day. Yeah, I mean, it's barbecue. I can't be like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I wouldn't wear a white shirt.
Speaker 2:I yeah, I mean I wouldn't wear a white shirt, I don't actually even know what I'm going to order, which is crazy, so we're going to talk about that too. You definitely don't order ribs. Well, I know I wasn't going to order ribs, but then I was like I don't order a salad either, because the last time I got salad at this place they cut it like I was going to be a giraffe. I chew on it forever and I can't stand when people are lazy about vegetables, but like at what point I'm like you can do like a turkey breast.
Speaker 1:I love barbecue restaurant turkey.
Speaker 2:Do you tell me why? Because I don't know if I would have ever chosen that.
Speaker 1:Because, I just love good dry turkey.
Speaker 2:I love a dry turkey.
Speaker 1:I live for some dry turkey, love a dry turkey. I live for some dry turkey, like I really do love it though why?
Speaker 2:because I hate wet meat.
Speaker 1:You know this about me it's true, I hate women too. Where was I the other day and I took a bite of some and I was like nope, done with that. Nope, never again. Nope, nope, nope, nope. And yet you tried philly cheesesteak dip Gold. You never used the word Queso.
Speaker 2:I didn't have to.
Speaker 1:I really only used it once I realized it's like hard kind of Me, and you have talked about it on various occasions. Kirsten talked about it and, like truly none of you, ever said anything about warming it up, isn't?
Speaker 2:it like wet Kind of, when you open it like when you wanted to be I'm gonna throw up because it was not good.
Speaker 1:It really was not good. Yeah, I'm like all right. Well, they're adamant about it and like I trust you, so I'm like I'm gonna go back and try again with a different vessel. Let's's go cracker. Nope, still didn't like it either.
Speaker 2:Why is the carve in trouble? I don't know. Get a scoop and get after it. It's hot, hot, piping, hot man. It's like buffalo dip. Do you eat cold buffalo dip? No, I heat up my buffalo dip. Well yeah, oh, my god, it's a cheese base. It's the same, it's in the same section. Do you think I pay attention to stuff like that? And now I'm so curious, now, like, does it not really say that to hear I am dying, so this episode releases a few days before the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:I know and I cannot wait to come on and talk about no, that's one of my favorite episodes we ever did. I know it's super fun. We, I think we have an episode airing and um, isn't the it wouldn't that be the 13th? Erica's episode is the 13th.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we'll have to. We'll do it. Erica's episode is the 13th. Yeah, so we'll have to, we'll do it. The Super Bowl episode will drop on the 20th. Yep, yeah, and I love it because.
Speaker 2:I'm here for the snacks and the commercials. I am like so excited to dig into it. It'll actually give us a little bit more time too. We'll have to set up a time to meet right after when we're still really excited.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we had just the text message chain going last year.
Speaker 2:No, you only let that go on for about two and a half minutes and then you were like, save it for tomorrow. That is true, yeah, you were like, no, I got to, you were like just coming back from a trip and, you like, threw your suitcase on the ground. It was Jamaica, oh yeah, and you were like we got to get right after this.
Speaker 1:I love the Superbowl and clearly I have a good snack now that I know that I need to heat up the dip.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm like literally looking online, but it doesn't say, it doesn't show me the sides of the container so I can see. If it says heated up, I just I don't. I I mean I was served it that way by brett. It says microwave safe container was that the tale?
Speaker 1:what should I, should I have? He did that. He did that it definitely says microwave it does say that, but it does not say there's like no directions. They're probably a little ugly cold.
Speaker 2:That's something I mean I hate, that my friend brett grant, who doesn't cook at all, heated it up for us okay. So all right, we listen and we don't judge.
Speaker 1:We don't judge. I'm an idiot. I should have heated up the dip.
Speaker 2:I think if you're going to give it a real shot.
Speaker 1:Just stay tuned for a text message from me tonight, because I'm going to go back in.
Speaker 2:I want you to have an open mind and think of it more like Philly cheese queso. Okay, I'm open.
Speaker 1:We are wrapping up. Thank you all for tuning in and we will see you next week.