Marketing & Mayhem
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Marketing & Mayhem
Enneagrams, Pocketbooks, & Embracing the Awkward
Ever feel like you're making it up as you go along? You're not alone. In this refreshingly candid conversation, we catch up on life's little moments while embracing our perfectly imperfect selves.
We dive into the joy of sleeping until 9am (which feels suspiciously like being "on molly," though neither of us can confirm this comparison from experience), and celebrate the arrival of spring – pollen and all. As we debate rodeo outfits and wardrobe choices, deeper conversations emerge about authenticity versus performance, particularly when discussing Enneagram personality types and how they shape our relationships.
The episode takes a vulnerable turn as we acknowledge that despite being in our forties, we often still feel like those awkward teenagers with braces, especially when facing new parenting challenges without a roadmap. From getting stuck in chairs at the dentist's office to debating whether to embrace or conceal nipples in our wardrobe choices, we find humor and wisdom in life's awkward moments.
Our fashion discussion leads us to rediscover American Eagle, celebrating finding clothes that actually work for our real, adult bodies. Throughout, we return to a central theme: authenticity may lead to occasional awkwardness, but it's the foundation of genuine connection.
Join us for this unfiltered conversation about the human experience, and maybe feel a little less alone in your own journey of figuring it all out. And please, share your thoughts on the great "Team Nipple vs. Team No Nipple" debate!
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good, well morning. Ish. I slept until nine o'clock this morning I love that for you.
Speaker 1:Um, that's, those are like the best. I really live for those days you know, know, I don't do that. Ever. No. No, it's good, though. It's something about it. It's like a real treat for your body, like my body feels like it's on a drug, like a molly. If I can sleep till nine, I've never had molly, but I'm pretty sure that's what it feels like sleeping till nine.
Speaker 2:It felt glorious. Well, because we've been jacked anyway with the time change, so, like being able to, I've stayed up late this week because Nate's not been here.
Speaker 1:Ooh.
Speaker 2:So I've had a lot of like girl time and so I put Clark to bed and then I'm like I don't know what to do with myself.
Speaker 1:You're like just like me, like you're like wandering around like, hey, what new t-shirt? And watch Love is Blonde. That's what I've done. You know, I think I'm giving up and I can't take it anymore. I am ahead of you and I can't do it. So I'm switching, I think, to White Lotus. I have heard I have watched the first two seasons.
Speaker 2:I know but I haven't seen the newest one Me neither, maybe that's our thing now.
Speaker 1:I loved the other two, but a good friend of mine, my friend Kate, was like if you are not watching this season of White Lotus, you have got to get on the train. I'm ready to ditch the Love is Blind train, so I'm going.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my girlfriend Roxanne. When I asked her about Love is Blind, she was like I'm not even watching that, I'm on White Lotus. And I said, well, I had to finish this whole season. Sucked, a fat one.
Speaker 1:I can't do it. I think I'm giving up.
Speaker 2:It is bad, but I mean I had to see it through.
Speaker 1:No, I think I'm done. I'm like on maybe episode seven or eight and I don't think I can do it. I can do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's bad. It's really bad. Me and my sister are really excited to record today.
Speaker 1:Listen, I think I'm touching like a chin here, so you get what you get.
Speaker 2:But you know how we talked about that time, about why we're so ugly in the Target self-checkout lines.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I looked it up. On ChatGPT, there's a real reason.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, but I'm just saying I feel like it looks like that sometimes if I don't have like a like a light on me, no, the Target self-checkout.
Speaker 1:Nothing could touch how absolutely feral I look in the Target self-checkout. Look at this, something about Mary thing, hey, yeah.
Speaker 2:Is it?
Speaker 1:something about me.
Speaker 2:No, there's no jizz in my hair right now.
Speaker 1:It's just my hair is like that's unfortunate, I know right, like it's just my hair is doing its own thing, because it's like now it's pollen season oh my gosh dying not yet, but it's toying with the idea of being humid I feel like spring is full on springing.
Speaker 1:Sprung. I know I keep teaching the girls how to look for it in the grass and the waters, how the green grass starts to come up. I love to romanticize all that cute stuff. My friend, sandra, is obsessed with pollen. She gets it. It's the most annoying thing, but she's like she gets it. It's like the most annoying thing, but she's like it means summer's coming. We love pollen.
Speaker 2:I do Actually shout out to Sandra. I saw her new headshots from Stephanie Selby and they are stunning. So good, so good, Sandra you look fabulous.
Speaker 1:This is the most you but like elevated you, but actually your full personality, like those headshots, killer she she looked amazing.
Speaker 2:I still haven't met her, but she looked fabulous.
Speaker 1:She, we. So we crawl into yoga together and I mean, sandra, at least like tries, I haven't stopped trying. I mean I look like I crawled out of a hole when I get to yoga, because we're about to go back down the hole I crawled out of. It's so hot, it's so sweaty. Now we're getting into, like, the warmer months. I'm just like you get what you get. I mean she just goes, girl, you. Okay, I'm like mm-hmm, you'll be just fine.
Speaker 2:No, Sandra.
Speaker 1:No, but the other day it was maybe Monday I was laying on my back when she walked in and I was the first person there and in order to talk to me, she felt like she had to lay on her back. She's like I guess this is just what we're doing. I'm like Sandra, I'm tired. I cannot get up for you right now. If you want to talk to me, we just have to lay on our sides and speak to each other's faces, and that's what we did while the whole class filled up. Oh, yeah, yeah, no, those headshots were incredible, so cute.
Speaker 2:They were. Stephanie Selby does a phenomenal job. I'll actually link her stuff here because she does a great job. I actually met her for the first time the other day in person. I have never met her We've Zoomed a couple of times and we've gone back and forth on Facebook, Instagram, whatever but I saw her in Publix and I walked up to her and I was like is that weird when you walk up to people you've never met but you're like friends, Okay?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 1:I actually have three very good friends from this Like. I have a good friend, caitlin, who we like. She walked up to me and she was like at a color run, like at some school event, and she was like this is going to sound so bizarre, but I've been like following you for a couple of years on Instagram and I just realized that it's like you. That's the girl I went to the Post Malone concert. We're like, we talk every day, we do the whole thing, but any other circumstance would be like that's so sketchy. And her I'm like oh my God, I love you.
Speaker 2:Okay good, because I wondered what the sexual rule was on that.
Speaker 1:If it was weird to just be like, hey, I'm essential rule was on that if it was weird to just be like, hey, no, like that's, I follow you unless you're being a freak about it, but no, not us.
Speaker 2:We're being like, we're using it I just I know you, so I need to give you a hug well, it's like an awkward thing to say, but like, how awkward would it be if you didn't like?
Speaker 1:how awkward would it be if you like then became friends and then you never told them that, like you knew of their existence before. That's like the sketchiest thing ever. It's much more appropriate to be like. Hey, like I like the way you shine.
Speaker 2:I love your vibe.
Speaker 1:Oh, for real, Like my friend, caitlin ends up actually having the same birthday as my niece, rowan, and it was this week Rowan's-. Oh, I know, I saw.
Speaker 2:I didn't realize that.
Speaker 1:I love her so much I didn't realize that they had the same birthday until this year and I was like, no wonder, I freaking love you. I get it. The glow is just shooting out of you like Rowan's glow.
Speaker 2:We talk about this here is for life, my kid's something else um so, um, clark just asked me a question in the car and you know how random kid questions, so I was like I have to ask Becca this one.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Would you rather have no hair or no eyelashes Shit. Well. These are the conversations in my car. What did she?
Speaker 1:pick.
Speaker 2:She didn't pick, she will never pick. She always makes me pick. And then I asked her she's like oh, I don't know, I'm like what the? What kind of game is this? I picked no eyelashes, which is crazy coming from the girl who has eyelashes.
Speaker 1:I know I like really. I'm very attached to my hair, though that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I feel like I can like pull off, like not having eyelashes but not having hair. I don't know. Man, I know you got really good my hair.
Speaker 1:I think I would probably just like have like. If I had to have like fake hair versus fake eyelashes, like to cover up one or the other because I'm already thinking about how we solve this I'm probably choosing to have to put on fake eyelashes okay, but how do you put on fake eyelashes if you legit don't have any eyelashes? Just glue them have probably even easier, just freaking adhere them straight to your skin. Yeah, have you ever put on like the falsies? That are just like pieces?
Speaker 2:you glue that to your skin. I can't do stuff like this.
Speaker 1:You know this is like I went through a very long period where I always added, like I would say, upwards of three to four groups of false eyelashes every day. It started ripping out my other eyelashes, so that's why I stopped yeah.
Speaker 2:It's lash season for me, because you know it's allergies and so I rub my eyes a lot, so I'm really thankful that I have fake.
Speaker 1:It is full on. It looks like it's snowed outside, but it's pollen. It's crazy, so bad, we're so bad.
Speaker 2:Back on the nose spray. I actually had to give Clark's and Benadryl last night Cause, um, her eyes are like like the bottom parts of them are super like swollen. I think she may have gotten inherited my allergies, which is unfortunate.
Speaker 1:We do. I mean, I have definitely had the girls do it, but I do the um, what is it? Liratidine or whatever that is that you get from, like the Publix, the Publix brand of allergy pill. We do that this time of year for both the girls, just because I don't want anything. I you know, because this ENT visit I'm deeply scared of like bacteria and moisture growing in there because then it turns into me. Just this morning three of the girls had to basically resign from doing States this weekend because they're sick with something and there's so much shit going around I'm like you're, what I'm not going to let you do is grow bacteria in your nose. I already know that's a problem. I'm not doing it.
Speaker 2:No, but my most important, my most important question for you today is are you rodeo ready?
Speaker 1:I am not, so we should talk about this, cause it's coming up like stat.
Speaker 2:Like this week. This will air next week, so it's like this weekend.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I'm not ready.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I really need to get my outfit together Well, so I wore shorts last year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that doesn't sound like I'm like you said, it was cold.
Speaker 2:It was. I was freezing. We had to buy a hoodie.
Speaker 1:It was really cold I think I'm definitely wearing jeans. Like I don't want to be cold, cold, I think I'm gonna have to wear jeans with cowboy's ears? Well, I don't know, because my cowboy boots are rhinestone, so, like I now, I don't really know what I'm wearing at all this is my point, so that's why I wore shorts last year.
Speaker 2:So I did shorts for my t-shirt well, that's where I was going. That's why we were talking about this now, so I did shorts, a t-shirt and a like. I have this really cute like fringe jacket. Yeah, I love a fringe fun fact.
Speaker 2:I have a rhinestone fringe denim jacket I know I love it, um, so I wore that and I mean I was, I was comfortable. I mean, if you're like standing up, it wasn't like breezy. But I mean I look back at pictures and I'm like I think my legs were too pale to wear the shorts but I think I'm gonna do it again.
Speaker 1:I really did. I ended up buying the tanning drops, did you?
Speaker 2:I feel like I would totally screw that up.
Speaker 1:No, I'm sure I'm going to, it's like, but you're drinking them. It's like the Sandra goes, Wait what. How the hell does that help? I don't know. It says, though in five to seven days.
Speaker 2:What Instagram influencer did you buy this from?
Speaker 1:sandra goes. Don't you even think about it. You're gonna look like a damn sweet potato if we have to cut you open oh sandra, I mean, it is nothing thrills me more than to do it for the plot. For you, for whitney, and for Sandra and for Christina. These are like what do you do? You put them on your tongue or something? No, you put it in your juice, and then you-.
Speaker 2:Okay, but seriously, give me the story that's such a bad idea.
Speaker 1:They're absolutely from China. They took forever to get here. She's like you are going to gonna you get yourself in an accident. You're sweet potato. She might have said sweet potato, I'm not even quite sure, because I was crying, laughing, but I'm like well but seriously give me the source.
Speaker 2:Where did, where did you find?
Speaker 1:this. I did see it on the gram. I told this is the one. This is like episode one that I told you about. But recently I've been able to find them on Amazon and we know now I don't purchase straight from the gram. So I brought these up. What? 61 episodes ago? I literally was like we were talking about targeted Instagram ads and I said I was going to get them and drink them and you guys were like don't. So I let the peer pressure get to me for the better part of 15 months, but I have been drinking tanning drops for three days. I don't know what's going to happen. I'm scared.
Speaker 2:I feel like my skin will be yellow.
Speaker 1:I'm scared. Do they have?
Speaker 2:good reviews, at least.
Speaker 1:No, I mean, it's anyone's guess. Jenny, this one was a full on. I was like you know what? Fuck it, I'm doing it for the plot, I'm rolling okay, well, I think I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 2:I think I may just get a spray tan so you're still going to wear shorts.
Speaker 1:What's the weather like? Did you look at the weather?
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:What's.
Speaker 2:Clark wearing. Last year she did a t-shirt and shorts and cowboy boots and then we had to buy her a hoodie. It's looking right now like 4866. I know I feel like, but I can't wear. I don't like cowboy boots with jeans on me.
Speaker 1:I know I'm going to have to wear something the same. I'm worried I'm not going to be in cowboy boots. I don't know what I'm. My plan is so not pulled together.
Speaker 2:Which is very shocking to me, because I feel like this is like this is a good place to do some hunting. To do some hunting? Yeah, I feel like you should have. I think I would have thought you would have had your outfit already ready.
Speaker 1:I'm shocked I have. I do have t-shirts for the girls. They look like, but I have them because we were going to a concert and then the musician had to cancel last year. So they say howdy and they have like the disco ball. That's cute, but I don't have like.
Speaker 2:I don't know. All right, well, we've got to get it together because it is here. It is here.
Speaker 1:I don't want to be cold, though I really don't like to be cold.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was not unbearable last year.
Speaker 1:I will say that I don't think I'm like fragile in the cold.
Speaker 2:I did drink several beers, but I'm like fragile in the cold. I did drink several beers, but I'm fragile in the cold. Well, they do have good hoodies.
Speaker 1:We do have some options. I do have a onesie, a black onesie with a deep v-neck that has fringe down the arms, like not a onesie, a bodysuit, sorry.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh, my god, I just had this visual of you in a onesie at the rodeo and I was like I don't feel like this is a smart idea, like I feel like we could do better, like I pictured you like with a onesie, with no, no, no.
Speaker 1:It's like a full-on, it's like a bodysuit with fringe down the arms.
Speaker 2:Okay, there we go. Body suit Yep, that sounds great. I think that's a great.
Speaker 1:It's like ripped denim and like maybe a cute little like. I don't know, I don't have a shoe for it, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:You got to get the shoe.
Speaker 1:Can you wear a heel or no?
Speaker 2:Well, I'm wearing cowboy boots. It's got a little bit of a heel. This was my wedding, so you know how like your husband is supposed to get you like a present when you get married. So I got these really nice cowboy boots. That's what I wanted, and so I've had these boots for 12 years now and they are phenomenal. That's a good gift. It was a great gift. That's what I wanted. So, yeah, they just look better with shorts.
Speaker 1:No, all cowboy boots do. I do have a pair that's like a booty that's black, that I could probably wear under the denim. I gotta think, I don't know. You know what I got when I got married A crystal bracelet. It has Swarovski crystals all the way around it and I was teeny tiny for my wedding so I wore it pretty high up Because I didn't wear a necklace or anything traditional. It's a badass, tiny Swarovski crystal cuff that I love. That's a good present Do you still have that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's somewhere in there. Yeah, I asked for cowboy boots. What did Nate get Nate got, I got him a watch and then I had some sexy pictures done.
Speaker 1:I love that.
Speaker 2:It was a lot of fun. Every woman should do that at one. Let me say that Every woman should do that at one. Let me say that every woman should do that at least once in their life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, A boudoir. I know a girl that does extremely empowering. I have a friend, Leah um, that does beautiful boudoir photos. I have not done it with her yet, but you totally should.
Speaker 2:I feel like you could do like some really cool stuff with yours.
Speaker 1:I think it could be really fun. She's like one of those people. I feel like you could do like some really cool stuff with yours. I think it could be really fun. She's like one of those people. Hers are like, they're online, they're stunning.
Speaker 2:Is she?
Speaker 1:local. Yeah, she's like right here in Park West. She does headshots too, but her we had talked the other day about doing like a boudoir thing just for fun. For me. I mean, like I don't have anyone to give it to, I would literally just do it for me.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I mean. So you know, I want to redo my closet I was thinking.
Speaker 1:I was like they would be fun like hot in like a bathroom or a carpet.
Speaker 2:I'm definitely going to put it in my cause. There's, I did one like full nude, like from the back, against this like window where the like sun's coming in.
Speaker 1:It's in black and white, oh my it is where the sun's coming in, and it's in black and white. Oh my, I do really feel like the black and white ones are where it's at. I feel like they're so fun, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to blow that up ginormous and put it in my closet, because it's a stunning picture of myself, if I do say so.
Speaker 1:You got to do it. That's the thing I'm like. Maybe I'll get a little bit of a tan.
Speaker 2:Do the whole let her have some fun. Yeah, I, I need some sun desperately. I really need new pool chairs. I think we talked about this, so we have somewhere to sit maybe we did and I need new ones. They have these ones at costco that are very inexpensive, but they're not wide enough, like I feel like I need like some, some depth on the side.
Speaker 1:Listen, I love oversized furniture. Oversized furniture is one of my love languages. When I go to somebody's house and the furniture is miniature, like dollhouse furniture, I'm always very confused.
Speaker 2:I feel like a giant on top of little furniture.
Speaker 1:Why are we doing?
Speaker 2:this, see, but my new couch, which we have, you know, we call mega couch.
Speaker 1:I feel like I'm really teeny. That's what I want. I like that in a man. I like that in a couch. I want a big, giant bed. Like I'm not playing. That's why I have the truck, like I don't. This is a lot of truck.
Speaker 2:I'll tell I'm like Clark's, like you love your car. I'm like I do because it's so beefy.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:I love my beefy car yes. What else is going on with you?
Speaker 1:since this is a catch up episode, I have had at least three people I've made take the Enneagram quiz this week. So we I know in one case it's because I was absolutely certain that they were an eight and I was correct, and in another case I was like I don't know what this is. So I'm going to need you to take this friendly little quiz.
Speaker 2:We need to get her back on Kelsey.
Speaker 1:We do so. The one was a three. I know one of my sister-in-laws is a three and it's more of like a performer style Enneagram. So I kept like recognizing this. That one like pattern, but I was like, what is that? Um, so trying to figure that out is I mean God, thank God for things like a free seven minute Enneagram quiz so I can figure out what I'm. I don't know why I like rely on this so heavily, but I really do.
Speaker 2:They are very interesting. So I think since you introduced me to it and then I got Nate to take it, it's just and you know we follow all the different people on social I mean, and you know they tell you about your fears, like how you come across, when you feel like it's just really interesting to follow all the different things about it. I think it's really helpful from a relationship standpoint to know the people that you love like how they respond to things. I think it's a great tool.
Speaker 1:The three is really about being like, valued and admired and so, like that's like their core desire is to be valued, to be admired, and they're definitely. They fall under the category like where I'm the challenger or the protector. They are the performer and they can shape, shift in certain like circumstances. So I think that's like what I recognize where cause. For me, I'm like, as an eight right, this has nothing to do with the three, this is my interpretation as an eight. I'm like are you being authentic or are you changing who you are a little bit to fit the circumstance? Like, for me that's a little bit of a trigger, you know where. For them it's like, where they're comfortable. It's not necessarily not being authentic, I don't think. I just think it's like how they navigate, but it's just interesting.
Speaker 2:I was like I don't think I know any threes.
Speaker 1:I only know a couple. Actually, my friend, kay Caitlin, is a three the one that we were just talking about but she's a very uh, you know how like Enneagram looks different when you're like a very healed or like in a state of stress. Yeah, she's one of those people who's done an awful lot of work on herself. Like we talk about this a lot, and so her three looks different to me than people who haven't. And I only say this because in this case it was a man and I mean I could be completely assuming something. So take it with a grain of salt. It's less likely for me to meet a man who's done the same amount of work as a woman in any facet of life.
Speaker 1:As far as like growth or self-awareness, I just feel like they have a lot of confidence. But self-awareness is different for me. Like Caitlin has an incredible amount of self-awareness. She's like the person I go to when I really need to sound something out, but I don't want to be judged at all. Like bear with me, this is a very not thought through thought, and she will be like you know what I think is happening, or she'll send me a quick message and just be like I'm super proud of you. Like she listens to the podcast too or she'll say stuff or see stuff on the internet. She has a friend who's going through a divorce situation and so she'll ask me like some questions and I'll tell her things like very openly, and she's like I would have never known that. I'm like oh, I think I might've healed that up. I don't know if I slapped a bandaid on it and shipped it off and ignored it existed, or if it's actually healed ignored it existed, or if it's actually healed.
Speaker 2:But you know she's a good one. Yeah, yeah, I don't know any threes. I mean not that I a lot of people don't. I will say I have gotten to where I can pick up people who are mine, yes, pretty easily. And then I can pick up eights, pretty easily.
Speaker 1:Those are my, and then a nine. I always know a nine when I'm around a nine, probably because of Christina I'm always like, but the eight in me wants the nine to have a voice and nines tend to hold back a little bit. So, that could also just be my personality being like I'll reach out to her today.
Speaker 2:Actually, I want to get her back on here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, she had a full plate there for a second, I feel like a lot of her Bless Friends are going through some major health crisis.
Speaker 2:I know Like, yeah, it really puts things in perspective, cause I feel like health is like the number one. We need good health.
Speaker 1:No, my friend. So my friend Emily is back at Duke and got her third surgery, I know, and I think we might've solved this, but now she's been there for two weeks and there's other cause. It's in her spine and so now there's other complications and so she's having to move to a rehab. She's already it's been like two. So if there's prayer people on here, my girl Emily is incredible. I think she could really use some extra prayers. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:But I like we talk all the time and I'm like I just you know what she said to me the other day, which I think is actually a really good topic to talk about, because this is so us. She FaceTimed me and I was working and I don't have the girls and I immediately I was actually working on the caption for the most recent one, so I didn't answer the FaceTime because I wanted to hit save on my thought. And then I called her right back and she was like oh, you know, of course I didn't mean to interrupt you doing the usual stuff, and I was like no, no, no course I didn't mean to interrupt you doing the usual stuff and I was like no, no, no, I really want to talk to you Like I absolutely have time. I just had to hit save on something, um. And she said this, which is crazy, but she was like you know, I feel like so many people have reached out and I'm feeling really guilty because I just there's no way for me to reply to all of them, but when I get back I'm going to make sure I do better at this. And I was like, how about we actually don't worry about that? How about we don't? How about we completely just focus on ourselves? I said I can from my own hardships and it still happens to me to this day.
Speaker 1:I will go with 34 text messages or however people see me on Instagram and I'll post a few things to my stories or I'll add our podcast update. There are an awful lot of unread messages right now on my Instagram. It is not personal. I can't do it right now. I am maxed and I'm trying my best to just like work and do the things that are like the most important, and that's not minimalizing anyone's friendship with me, but, like he was, like, take it from me If you, if they feel like you owe them something, that's just that's not going to be something long-term anyways, like your friend should know how hard this is for you and just be there. And if you reach out, great, and if you can't, two weeks from then great, like I. Just please don't put that kind of burden on yourself.
Speaker 2:No, I mean, everybody needs grace these days. I mean adulting.
Speaker 1:It just was. I was like, please do not hold yourself accountable to trying to be a better friend while I really just need you to be working on healing. Like that's so much energy.
Speaker 2:It's just the guilt thing. I think it's just we all feel guilty, because even you posted something the other day about me trying to work, drink enough water, exercise, whatever that reel was, and I'm like dude, I should have that like tattooed on my forehead because that's exactly how I feel. It's so much and you can fail somewhere all the time, all the time you have to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all the time People are not meant to operate. I think back to that conversation last week with Peggy and I'm like surely she's talking about like the Panini generation and she's talking about how much we do, but like people were not meant to operate at this, like this level, like this is craziness.
Speaker 2:It is, and I mean, I don't know if you ever have these days, but like it hit me this week in a situation that I'm dealing with as a mom, I'm like I have no fucking clue what I'm doing.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Like I even had this conversation with my mom, cause I'm like mom, like I, I don't. I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, we're facing things that people aren't fate like weren't facing.
Speaker 2:And it's like you try to give advice and it's like you're trying to fix situations as best you can, you're trying to respond to situations as best you can, but then it's like you take a second and you step back and you're like holy shit, like this is a first. I have no clue what I'm doing or how to navigate this and I have somebody looking at me to help them navigate it and I'm like, yeah, no pressure. Oh, yeah, for sure, that's, yeah, it's. It's been a, it's been a week.
Speaker 1:No, I mean, that's like my every day, Right Cause then I'm like, then I have to call somebody and be like hey, this conversation happened. We've had a situation with coaching recently. We've had a situation with a friend.
Speaker 2:I'm like.
Speaker 1:I don't know man.
Speaker 2:So yeah, and I feel and I don't know if I think we've talked about this too kind of going back to with Peggy last week. It kind of got me in the head of as we were looking at pictures to promote the podcast, kind of looking at my teenage pictures, and I'm like I feel like that was the other day, like that was the other day, like I feel like that I am still that kid with braces who doesn't have a clue what they're doing.
Speaker 1:I'm just 43 now. I literally can think back and be completely present Like I. After we were talking about that, I went through a bunch of old photos and I was like, oh, now I'm down the rabbit hole of like life, but I can put myself in almost all those situations and I don't think it's even just because there is a photo Like I can remember really awkward things and I'm like, oh my God, and I still get myself into awkward situations 24 seven.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, listen, I am awkward, like yes.
Speaker 1:I think that's because we're being authentic, though. No, I really actually think that's because we're being authentic. I think people that are in more of a and I don't mean to link this back to the three, I'm not saying three, but I'm going to use the word performer this is not personal People who are better at like performing, like when they're out in public and stuff like that, not, I'm not saying they're not authentic, but I know that if I'm not being awkward, I'm probably not being authentic. Yeah, there's a really good chance that I am operating, and that's not necessarily like how I show up when I'm being authentic.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm much more likely to do something awkward if I'm in my true space yes, you'll appreciate this. I went to a new dentist this week um, I'm actually curious who you're going to, so text it to me, because I'm looking for a new dentist oh they are.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, I geeked out over this dentist. They have this technology that is so incredible. They do these x-rays of your face and it shows, like he pulls it way out, and it like, shows your face, like, for me, you can see your sinuses, your ears, your jaw, like it was the most thorough dentist experience I've ever had.
Speaker 1:We I have a lot of orthodontist and periodontist appointments because of all this Invisalign stuff. I've had a lot of that but I just don't love Because that's why I had to get Invisalign, because my teeth started to almost. He was like as you age, they start to almost kind of compact, go inward a little bit. That's never good news when we age.
Speaker 1:No, it was like let's permanently pull them back out and we're going to make this cute little smile and, of course, whatever it was on my radar anyways. But he was like this is going to be a nightmare when you're 60 if you don't fix this now oh god, good to know who freaking knew.
Speaker 2:But yeah, they're super thorough, but anyway. So I've been there and it's kind of a like a swanky place, like beautifully decorated. It's got these like modern chairs about the dentist man. They live for this stuff so, my dumb ass, I sit down in these chairs and you know it's like my first time there and I'm like you know what's happening in a chair, though. Uh-huh, just leave it to me back on, hang on. So I have my pocketbook with strap and they call me. You're calling it your pocketbook jenny, what in the southern?
Speaker 1:what are you? Why did you just do that? Wait, what Are you talking about? Your purse, or your handbag, or your pocketbook? Wait, and I'm only interested to this from like Michael Kors, because we weren't allowed to call them purses, we had to call them handbags. Oh, okay, so I got reverse trained like that way.
Speaker 2:Pocketbook is like I love this Speaking of being old Pocketbook, Okay so isn't your pocketbook like a nice pocketbook too. Well, I have another one, my crossbody bag. There we go, let's say that, crossbody Maybe that's what it was.
Speaker 1:Maybe it was giving you more of a pocket. All right, you don't want to bring your nice bag to the swanky dentist. I didn't think about it.
Speaker 2:Listen, I was running out the door so they call me back. I go to get up and somehow my strap has gotten wedged between the the. Hey, I'm not a handle. What the fuck is it called the arm rail of these modern chairs and I am stuck fighting for your life. I could not get up. I'm like it was like a seat belt. You're like, basically like, push to get, like they, you put, they put together and you're like how did these rings get together? Dude, dude, that was me in the dentist's office, like I was stuck in the chair and I'm like I don't know what to do here. Did she have to help you? Yes, they had to help me. Wait, they like more than one person. Well, the one girl behind the desk was saying something and then the one girl the dentist, dental hygienist. She was like oh, we'll just twist it this way. I'm like I can be awkward anywhere, a hundred percent anywhere.
Speaker 2:So that was my first intro to the I told you I ordered coffee with cinnamon dust the other day oh, my god that that that post tripped me out because I'm like, I have those days where I can't get the words out.
Speaker 1:It I was like I'll take cinnamon dust she goes. I was like cinnamon dust, she goes. Would you like cinnamon powder? There you go. I do actually need cinnamon because I didn't want to pump. I was like I need help here. The word is not coming to the top Like this is the Monday.
Speaker 2:Mine just kept getting worse and they were like doing the x-rays or whatever. And she was like, oh, you have a small mouth. And I was like, well, that's not what my husband says, meaning, this is what comes up.
Speaker 1:This is. They say this. I know what you mean.
Speaker 2:I talk too much, much like you're talking about, like yapping yeah, but it came out like well, that's not what my husband's.
Speaker 1:And then I was like wait, that didn't show me, like anyway, just yep, just this is yeah, that happened to me on yoga monday and she was like hey, listen, the lights are doing something weird, like I need to kind of like turn them off and then turn them back on. And I literally I don't know what made me do this, but I was like listen girl, I get it. Like I need to turn them off before I turn them back on, and I don't know why I did this. I was like listen, girl, I get it. And everyone started laughing. I was like that's not even I don't know why I did this. I was like listen girl, I get it. And everyone started laughing. I was like that's not even I don't know why I said that I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know why we're like this.
Speaker 1:I don't know it's. We're being authentic man, Pocketbook and all Pocketbook and all I live for it. I need a rodeo outfit. I'm stressing now you do.
Speaker 2:You do, I've done. I wore a Coors Light t-shirt last year.
Speaker 1:Do you think I should wear like a Coors? I have a Miller Lite t-shirt, for sure, but like, should I wear a beer t-shirt or should I wear like a cute little body suit?
Speaker 2:I feel like for your vibe you need to go like body suit. We just need to hug them curves, baby. Oh, like, come and get it shout out.
Speaker 1:By the way, speaking of curves, um, have we talked about the new american eagle?
Speaker 2:I don't think we have no, but I'm obsessed with it. I love them Best jeans ever Well.
Speaker 1:So we used to have an American Eagle at town center. They took it away. I love American Eagle. I worked there for a short time, even in um was it high school? I love American Eagle. I have not had a pair probably 20 years.
Speaker 1:We've had a couple of people come on here and talk about like jeans and Abercrombie and Fitch. I will say this personally I have a hard time spending money at Abercrombie and Fitch. I'm not saying anything against the corporation, I'm just saying like I feel like it did me dirty in my teen years and I will never forget that. It just was something about it. It was like just too much too much pressure, too much too much all that Like it just wasn't giving me that all American American Eagle vibe. So I put my money there. I have now gone three times to the new American Eagle and area town center. Every single time Incredible customer service and normally we shout out small business. But I need to say this that team's amazing.
Speaker 1:A girl helped me with my two denim fits. I'm obsessed with the jeans that she got me into. I wear them. So if you see me in light, high-waisted, they're like baggier leg but not overly baggy, like I can't do the big baggy mom trend. They have rips across the knees. I'm wearing them every day. They are my obsession. I'm like I got a bra there like a bralette, which is not really my vibe. This week I was super scared to buy it because it has no like, has no underwire, has no snaps across the back, it's like nothing and I has no snaps across the back.
Speaker 2:It's like nothing, is it?
Speaker 1:padding.
Speaker 2:No, oh, can you pause for one second? I want to ask you a question while we're talking about this Are you team nipple or team no nipple?
Speaker 1:Okay, here I actually have. I do have a thing about this. You knew this. Wait, which one are you first?
Speaker 2:I don't really have an opinion either way. Like I embrace, like I honestly didn't used to wear a bra a whole lot when I would go out and like, just because I'm like, listen, man, they're young, I was young and perky, like I'm good, I don't yeah. But now that I'm older I'm like. You know, it depends on where I'm going, like a PTA event, probably no nipple Night out in Vegas, let them puppies go.
Speaker 1:So I have one of my sister-in-laws, an ex-sister-in-law, so that's like the thing we used to like. We had the same bra size, so we would talk about this, especially in sports bras, and one day she was like you know what? I have nipples. We all have nipples, I really don't care. She's like I'm taking that freaking padding out because I look like an idiot in it. Because if there's like the padding, it ends up looking like a big, like basically aerial like, on the front of me, which is like not what I want to convey.
Speaker 2:It's never smooth. It's always got like lumps and bumps. You can see it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we were like from this day forward, we are never keeping the padding in anything. So now, even for my swimsuits like if you see me out there rocking them, that's a happy birthday. So you're team nipple, yep, a hundred percent. So you get what you get. It just looks better when I don't try to like finagle around them because I'm constantly having to arrange everyone in their appropriate car seats and it's just a freaking nightmare.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, sometimes I will check my nipples in the mirrors at the gym and they you know the sports bras kind of mash them anyway. I'll look and my nipples like up, east and west, north and south. Oh my God, people are going to think that my nipples like up east and west, north and south. Oh my god, people are gonna think that my nipples like up near my clavicle no whitney, and I talk about this all the time.
Speaker 1:So I like try to arrange them and get them where they're supposed to be and then like, best of luck, this bra. So I bought a long sleeve that's like really thin and really tight and cute. I have a picture of it has it's. I put it on on in the wrong way. So I realized when I was looking in the mirror that the tag was on the front. I was like damn, I didn't realize the scoop was in the back. In order to make that work, I had to buy this bralette. I wore it yesterday. I am now obsessed with it, but I was so afraid I bought it in the Mrs Doubtfire color, which is usually not where I thrive. I love nude. I love nude. Well, it really, Jenny, I freaking. I really had to fight my inner Mrs Doubtfire like hello. I just couldn't get over it. But I am now-.
Speaker 1:I ain't going to do this because I would Well, I'm going back to Biden. Two more colors, the woman. Again I was on the airy side. I was like, should I get a medium, because I usually like packing some heat on the front. She goes I'm wearing a large. I think you're a small. I didn't even try it on, popped it on last night. It's so much cuter on in person. It shaped perfectly. The back is completely smooth. The straps are to the side. I just sent you a picture of like the shirt.
Speaker 1:You can see it had my arm up, you can see it a tiny bit, but I'm like I now. If you see me rocking American Eagle, I just think you should know I am actually obsessed with it.
Speaker 2:They are doing a great job. I want the link to that shirt too.
Speaker 1:It was on like super sale. If I go back Monday I'll grab you one. I bought it in.
Speaker 2:I just ordered a shirt to wear under like a vest, like the Columbia vest, you know, like when it's cold to be out on job sites and stuff and the sleeves are not long enough and it is freaking me out, I need my sleeves to come like down to like my mid.
Speaker 1:It has the thumb holes need my sleeves to come like down to like my mid.
Speaker 2:It has the thumb holes. I love a thumb hole. It has the same, and so that was actually on it, wasn't? It was on a promotion.
Speaker 1:It wasn't clearance, it was on a really good, that's a cool outfit. So I got that's the jeans. So then I got that in two colors because they were only like $17.
Speaker 2:like $17. So, anyway, so back to their jeans. Not exaggerating, becca. If you looked in my closet right now, these are the only jeans that I wear. I probably have maybe 12 to 15 pairs. I wear them. That all of my cut off American Eagle. Their cut off shorts are incredible. I wear all of my jorts are American Eagle. My whole bottom half is normally American Eagle.
Speaker 1:Well, this is my first time getting back into it and I'm like, so obsessed with it.
Speaker 2:I mean we should see if they'll give us a coupon code, because we've been hyping them up for you know what the?
Speaker 1:when I got the jeans, the manager actually did put a coupon in for me.
Speaker 2:Did you join their rewards?
Speaker 1:I joined their rewards but they link to an email I don't have access to. So I like, don't even know what to do about well, that's what I told him.
Speaker 2:I was like I've been buying jeans from y'all for years. How do I not have a reward account?
Speaker 1:but it's probably an email that I don't have access to. It's like from an old job. I don't know why I did that, but yeah that's cute, I'm gonna go back and get it in black. It's so cozy. I'm still wearing it from yesterday. I never took it off and I haven't showered.
Speaker 2:I'm so glad that we talked about the team nipple or no nipple Cause I was in an instance this week where I was like I don't know, I feel like this is a lot of nipple.
Speaker 1:It is what it is I met. When she had that talk with me I was like she's not wrong Me. Trying to cover this up looks stupid. Like if I wear a swimsuit and I get like my smaller chested friends would never look who it is. Oh, you need love, Would never. She's so big I know she really is Like you can start seeing her muscles. She's being so sweet. My smaller chested friends would never take that pad out, but also that covers their entire boob. If it doesn't cover your entire boob, it looks stupid yeah so we're rocking it, and that's my new favorite, do you?
Speaker 1:uh, yeah, I may get you to send me the link to the shirt too, if they have it, but I think I'm gonna go to go Monday one more time and try to get. I feel bad that I keep rocking the same pair of jeans. I got a buy one, get one half off, and the other pair, of course, I got skinny to wear with like heels and out. But I have only worn that pair one time. I keep wearing the other pair.
Speaker 2:Are you just because we're going into the season? Are you a white jean girl?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't see you in white jeans, for some reason.
Speaker 1:I want to be a white jean girl, but it just doesn't work for me.
Speaker 2:I love a white jean.
Speaker 1:I know Sandra rocks it and makes it look so cute too, and Whitney will rock it. Or a white linen pant, yeah. I don't know what it is about me. I just I look like I stole someone's pants. It's like if you put me in a Lily Pulitzer dress, you'd be like wait.
Speaker 2:Oh my God. No, that is so out of context for you.
Speaker 1:I know, but like that's kind of how the white, the white jean doesn't work as well on me. I look like I'm not being myself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like a white jean. But you got to be careful, because some of those I tell you what I'm not is a tan pant girl. I keep seeing it. I keep seeing it Tan pants. You look like you're naked.
Speaker 1:It looks like skin.
Speaker 2:And it just they should be, although I used to have to rock a khaki when I wore to Blockbuster and sometimes you have to target.
Speaker 1:These things happen, walmart also. These things happen and the more like what I'm seeing now is people doing it in leggings, and I think that's really where it gets sketchy fast.
Speaker 2:That is super sketchy. It looks like you are pantsless. It looks like straight. It's one of those things I do with double tank. Normally I don't look at people past a glance, but that's a double tank.
Speaker 1:I think it's really tricky.
Speaker 2:You left your bridges at home.
Speaker 1:It did happen to me the other day in public. I was like, right, right, it's always a double take, always, damn, that was a, that's a risk, yeah, yeah, but I tend to be just like a straight black leggings girl I know, with us going into spring, I was back.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't see you in a pastel. Really, you don't seem like a pastel girl to me either.
Speaker 1:No, but wearing that shirt yesterday was a big risk for me, because I was like I could go to my normal black. Really, I think it looks really good on you. No, it's cute. It was like a random cute out of the box, but I was striped. I don't even know. I actually had a gray in my hand and I put it back for the stripe, which is the girl, though, was helping me. That's the thing I need, those people. I got a chambray shirt there the other day, too that you would be obsessed with. It's the one that's in the Wegman selfie and it's like. It looks like a denim shirt, but it's actually like a sweatshirt material and I originally bought it as like a swimsuit coverup. But it's so good.
Speaker 2:That's a look I don't feel like I pull off. Well, is the denim shirt? Look, I don't feel like I can do that.
Speaker 1:Remember, I had it with the black leggings, and it doesn't work if the denim shirt is structured. If the denim shirt is structured, then it's because we're packing heat. We've got shoulders and boobs, so if anything is too structured, I look either heavy or like I'm going to pick up a baby and eat it.
Speaker 2:Yes, I look like I eat babies for breakfast.
Speaker 1:It's got to be just. There's got to be some soft lines somewhere.
Speaker 2:I need a little hug to kind of tighten it up. Yeah.
Speaker 1:We were talking about this other day with a photo shoot we had where, like, if it's too loose, unfortunately, I'm going to look heavier or I'm going to look, I'm going to look like my whole body is babies. Yes, a lunch lady situation. Yes, a lunch lady situation Somebody actually. I did send the picture of that striped shirt to a different friend for approval yesterday and she was like your boobs look serious in that. I'm like I thought they were being minimalized by this. You know not bra the not bra.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, that's a cute bra. I mean I'm going to order it.
Speaker 1:I am a giant fan. This is the chambray shirt that I also think everybody needs are you?
Speaker 1:it's just so cute in person also. Somebody taught me this trick recently. Yep, where um do you? When you tuck in your shirt, do you tuck it into your pants? Yes, okay, somebody taught me that you're supposed you tuck it into your pants. Yes, okay, somebody taught me that you're supposed to tuck it into your bra, and I actually think it's a game changer. So, if you look at that, how do you do that? Make sure, if there's an underwire, you just take one piece of it. If it's a long enough shirt and it, actually it does shorten it considerably, but the back on this shirt is very long. But when it feels too long, if you tuck it into your pants and it feels too long, move the tuck up to the underwire of your bra and it's a total game changer, especially in leggings where you can't get away with it. But I didn't know, that's where everyone else was putting it and now that is where I'm putting it.
Speaker 2:I thought you like tucked in the front and then pulled the sides out.
Speaker 1:Well then, this is like a perfect shirt for it because it's long. What I do is the asymmetrical tuck a lot with a t-shirt. I'll just take the bottom of it and put it only on one side so you have that like elongated line down the front. But yeah, apparently everyone's putting it in their bra fun fact. Everyone's putting it, I didn't know it's definitely in my bra in that picture, but I would not by the shirt, would you?
Speaker 2:do the high waist. You know, I don't typically do that.
Speaker 1:I know I love a high waist I cannot do it.
Speaker 2:I feel like I look like urkel I do probably look like Urkel.
Speaker 1:I do probably look like Urkel. Something about him makes me feel snug as a bug.
Speaker 2:I feel like I look like Steve Urkel with suspenders on 100%.
Speaker 1:I'm going with snug as a bug. That's why I'm like making that decision. I just feel snuggly Okay, yeah, I need to get over it. It does kind of give me like a little bit of a mom pooch, which I don't necessarily have in real life, like I noticed that in the jeans yesterday. I was like, oh, whatever you get what you get.
Speaker 2:I don't think.
Speaker 1:You look like you have a pooch just a little like if I go to the side that's because you don't have it to the side picture.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in that picture I'm like see they have a little bit of shape yeah, no, I agree, you don't have to post this whole outfit, so people it's so soft like, it's like a ribbed, a really thin ribbed material I know, and it's really hard to find like good shirts, like that I, I know I'm telling you, I shipped, I bought one and then I ordered another one from Amazon and I hate the sleeve length, hate it Like is it cropped?
Speaker 1:I have one from Amazon that I love that I could send you.
Speaker 2:Okay, I have one that I love.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's nice and thin, just like this one. So when I bought this one, I was praying that it was going to be thin enough to get away with, like what I wanted.
Speaker 2:Top. Yeah, this is cute.
Speaker 1:What kind of what kind of what? Oh, I did a sandal. That's cute. I did it like really light season too, I know. I tried to order a really cute pair from Amazon the other day but they came in there huge around my foot, which I guess I might have narrow feet, but didn't see that coming.
Speaker 2:I feel like Amazon's shoe sizes is weird. Anyway, I feel like this is the season that I usually wear those booty sandals, that tiny eight, and so I'm like raging because I don't have them and I loved that pair of booty sandals, I know.
Speaker 1:And we've had like a little bit of time to like find another pair, but you're like still mad probably. So it's like not mad.
Speaker 2:I liked that specific shoe. I have looked everywhere for it. I've DSW.
Speaker 1:that's a true loss, fucking dog I'm trying to find you this shirt, but I love him. I love him. No, no and I. We get it like you're. There's gonna be a few losses when we have the dogs hanging around, but, like just, you really just had to pick the one. That was like the shoe that was made.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like eat a sneaker, Like eat a eat like one of my athletic gym shoes.
Speaker 1:Knock on wood. That's probably coming next. Don't eat a sneaker. He's like she said eat a sneaker.
Speaker 2:No, I won't take my eye off of him now. He's like seriously, tiny, you're in trouble, you are in trouble.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, you're in trouble. You are in trouble. Okay, well, spring is sprung. Oh, I did get a little cute like um yellow top that I could wear to the rodeo.
Speaker 2:Ooh, I bet you would look fabulous in yellow.
Speaker 1:It's very light. It's way outside of my norm, but I'm letting the airy girls just do their thing. So here we are.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I think that's good. We'll have a full rodeo report for you guys next time and we are working on some exciting guests.
Speaker 1:It's really short and now that I'm looking at this picture, because I just found the yellow one, I'm actually panicking. This might not be rodeo appropriate, but I actually got it for country music concerts. I'm still looking for your shirt.
Speaker 2:Okay, let me see. Oh, that's cute. It's really short, though. I mean it's short. But I got my pants up to my eyeballs, so I might be fine. Your belly might be a little chilly, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I got to be able to put away like five hot dogs, so I don't know if I can have my.
Speaker 2:That's true. They have amazing food trucks and beer.
Speaker 1:Maybe I will wear the striped shirt again and I'll figure out like a shoe situation.
Speaker 2:Okay. Well, we're excited about the rodeo, we're excited about spring.
Speaker 1:Not so much excited about pollen.
Speaker 2:Back on the nose spray, folks, back on the nose spray. But we will be seeing you all next week with the rodeo update here we go folks all right guys. Thanks so much for tuning in and we will see you next week.