Every misstep you've made has a hidden gift: Resilience. This episode, we unravel the threads of fear and self-sabotage and digging into the raw truths of personal growth. From the echoes of our own doubts, we carve out a space for mentorship and coaching, celebrating the launch of a business born from the desire to empower. We're not just discussing the journey; we're walking it, addressing the paralyzing effect fear can have on our dreams and the profound strength found in vulnerability. Whether you're looking to find your tribe or rediscover the joy in your quirks, this conversation is a testament to the courage needed to move forward, regardless of whether we're driven by inspiration or desperation.
In this episode, we peel back the layers of ego, authenticity, and courage, acknowledging that we're all works in progress, susceptible to the curated illusions of social media. Sharing personal tales from podcasting misadventures to sporting blunders, we reinforce the message that adaptability is not just a skill but a lifeline. For anyone straddling the line between wanting to appear authentic and being genuine, this heartfelt guide is for embracing growth, taking risks, and living a life that's undeniably you.
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Every misstep you've made has a hidden gift: Resilience. This episode, we unravel the threads of fear and self-sabotage and digging into the raw truths of personal growth. From the echoes of our own doubts, we carve out a space for mentorship and coaching, celebrating the launch of a business born from the desire to empower. We're not just discussing the journey; we're walking it, addressing the paralyzing effect fear can have on our dreams and the profound strength found in vulnerability. Whether you're looking to find your tribe or rediscover the joy in your quirks, this conversation is a testament to the courage needed to move forward, regardless of whether we're driven by inspiration or desperation.
In this episode, we peel back the layers of ego, authenticity, and courage, acknowledging that we're all works in progress, susceptible to the curated illusions of social media. Sharing personal tales from podcasting misadventures to sporting blunders, we reinforce the message that adaptability is not just a skill but a lifeline. For anyone straddling the line between wanting to appear authentic and being genuine, this heartfelt guide is for embracing growth, taking risks, and living a life that's undeniably you.
email: FlippedMindsetPodcast@gmail.com
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Welcome to the foot mindset podcast. Hi I'm Janet, hi I'm Kelly, oh, sorry, all right so, which I'm so excited to have you on again. We had great. Everybody loved you on last time, thank you, we have a minute to get you on.
Speaker 2:Well, for us to fight scheduling, we're both so busy and got our own stuff going on, so I know that's okay life though you know it's, and it never changes like every time we talk, even if it's a couple weeks, a couple months, we're just like two peas in a pod.
Speaker 1:Yeah, working on good stuff there. We got some good stuff going on, and so I'm excited.
Speaker 2:Let's tell them all about it.
Speaker 1:All right, what do you want to do? Yeah, like yeah, because probably by the time I get this recording on, I'll have my business launched.
Speaker 2:Heck yeah, you will.
Speaker 1:I'm launching Red Feather Serenity. Oh, I figured it out today. It's a self-empower empowerment coach is what I'm going to be. So it's like, yeah, teaching you how to empower yourself to have the life you want to have, which kind of leads into. What we're going to talk about is overcoming fears and blocks and self-sabotage and working through those.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yes, ma'am, I'm Janet Wilson, self-empowerment coach, badass queen right here and this woman has helped coach me through many, many fears. So I mean, we all do our own work right, but like having a mentor, having a coach, it just helps you get over that hump.
Speaker 1:So to see something we might be blind to, especially when you have some limiting beliefs or some blocks that we may not be aware of. If you're not aware of it? How can you fix it? So if somebody else can bring it up and kind of go well, have you thought about this, and then you go oh, crap, you're right. And then you can start doing the work towards it.
Speaker 2:I'm like laughing because the amount of times you have done that for me has been astronomical. And then it's just that like like she just like hits you with it, and it's usually good because it is helping you. Sometimes you don't want to face it because your ego is like, damn, she's fucking right. But most of the time you're just like, oh, I get it now, but I love it yeah.
Speaker 1:I love it when it goes on and seeing that you know because it because then it helps, like then talking later, and it's like seeing the difference it makes in your life. And you're doing it. You're so badass, it's awesome to watch. Like I love it.
Speaker 2:Thank you, I mean, I am excited every time I get to talk to you because I always know the value that you bring and you do help me so freaking much and just like what we were talking about last time is surrounding yourself with the right people, having the right tribe. It really does make such a difference and I'm starting to find my tribe like shout out to Whitney, hey, and Janet and all these people, so they're just like helping me one up my life. I am super excited for your business and I'm super excited to also just break through fears together and I'm super excited to also just break through fears together. I feel like we're going at it at a like, very we're like always in like a similar season, even though it's slightly different, and we're like growing at like different, same rates, and it's really fun and amazing to see and watch. For me, I would say, yep, we're going to do it Okay.
Speaker 2:So like I went to my friend's workshop, we went to and I had a really big epiphany and I found what I feel like is going to be part of my big purpose in life, which is to help bring people's joy, help them find it, help them find their light, help them just like whenever they want to make the weird freaking noises that are exuding out of their body but they're afraid because they're. They are like peering around their shoulder like who's going to look at me? Weird. I make such weird noises y'all like because I just get so excited. That is a big part of what I want to do and bring out and people.
Speaker 2:One of my friends told me that I give her permission every time I'm around her to just like have fun and like dance like no one's watching, and I kind of correlated that together with said workshop and simultaneously I also have a pet care business and so my mind is just like running rampant of like holy frickin shit. I have all of this stuff in this ball that I'm like I have so much to do and it's so easy to get stuck. So I've been making a list to get started on that list. This is a different story. The fear is definitely coming in full circle 100%, but it's always like that it might just when is enough? Enough type of thing they say like when you, when you move, you move out of like inspiration or desperation.
Speaker 1:So I'm choosing the inspiration route here's to open, here's to know when I should say yeah sometimes don't change, only until, like the circumstances are in, gets hard enough, that change is actually easier. Or, like you said, inspiration and making the move. So, yeah, it's about not being stuck and working past that fear. And it's tricky, right, the fears are tricky Because you know and I know, me and you are in this healing journey and we're trying to break through our fears and we've been like going through limiting beliefs and finding all that stuff, but we still find where there's fear holding us back. It's, it's scary. All the time We've something.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, but it's like that's, that's kind of like life in itself. It's like, are you just gonna allow there's always gonna be fear, it's always gonna rear its ugly head? Are you gonna let fear control you or are you gonna let your dreams and love and your power and your strength, like just take over? I don't wanna live in fear. Forget all. That Doesn't make it easier, not at all.
Speaker 1:But you think about it, like if you're trying to like, hey, I don't wanna have any fear in my life, which one it's gonna be? Like, hey, I don't wanna breathe, right, like fear is part of our life. But if you say you don't wanna have any fear, but like sitting on a couch, not doing your dreams, you're in fear because your fear has stopped you. So do you wanna live with your fear? Doing your dreams, or live with the fear, like controlling the fear or letting it control you, so figuring out how you wanna live. And sometimes the fears that we have are irrational fears. There's these big, huge fears that we worry about that really, if we look at them, are not really big fears.
Speaker 1:So, what me and Brenda talked once about. Like she brought up this example of like when we were kids and we were at my grandmother's house and there was a picture on the wall and it was rattling. And so she's like oh God, there's ghosts, like we're freaking out and scared of, like what you know, all these crazy things we could think it would be, and then we realized, oh, it's just an oscillating fan that's blowing the picture right and so like. So it's kind of one of those things where sometimes these big fears like we're like oh, everybody's gonna judge me and nobody's gonna like me, and blah, blah, blah, it's not really a real fear, it's an irrational fear, and when we can realize that and pinpoint it, sometimes it can help us get over them.
Speaker 2:Get over it. Oh man, oh man, that is like my season of life right now, I feel like. So the other day it was like when you have this like knowing that something's for you and then it's just like on the tip of your tongue, that was kind of like me finding like what I'm supposed to be doing. The next one that's coming up for me is letting people just truly see me as me, without over-explaining myself, without having to edit my words, and just being able to like freely make mistakes, make weird noises, like the amount of times I've seen like people, for instance, make corrections and comments on like a spelling error is astronomical.
Speaker 2:And we have this giant fear of like someone just being like it's actually T-H-E-I-R, not T-H-E-R-E, but we allow like these, such these little things to just be like such a big deal and it's just like at some point in time, you just say fuck it, I don't care that I use the wrong there. There's like four of them, maybe three, I don't freaking, remember? I don't freaking, remember? I don't freaking, remember. Whatever it is, yeah, I'm ready to just like let drop it and just like do it. Fucking scared. I have a really big itch on my neck.
Speaker 1:I don't know you're making me itch. Probably good thing the video is not gonna go through on this it's whatever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm excited for life, though, and it's sometimes like and I don't know if I should say sometimes more like all the time. Well, I guess like it's rational to fear falling off cliff, cause then you would die. So sometimes your biggest fears are the things that are gonna transform you the most. My biggest fear, I would say right now, is public speaking, to be truly authentically seen as me without the mask of what I have felt I had to put up as a protection mechanism for survival XYZ, to be like, to belong, to fit in, etc.
Speaker 1:And so can I ask you a question? Yeah, you said, you said seen, so you said seen authentically. So is it that you're hoping to, or are you hoping to be authentic?
Speaker 2:What do you mean?
Speaker 1:Because the word seen, like you putting seen in there, makes it seem like, oh, I want to put on, I'm going to put on a thing. So people see me as authentic, versus me just being authentic and depending on how they see me is because how people see us is going to be through their filter. So the thing is is like, as long as you're being authentic to yourself, it doesn't matter how you're seen, because you're being authentic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, damn, it makes sense.
Speaker 1:Like play on words a little bit there. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I've never thought about it that way Like be authentic and be myself. Yeah, I think that's more or less what I mean.
Speaker 1:Like I know, sorry, it's hard, no good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, everybody has and I know everybody has like their own perception of themself or through their lens. Like you know, they all have their own lens. But I guess what I inherently mean is for me to show up in the world in a public setting as authentic as I know how to be, without having to feel like, oh, I can't make that weird noise or like kind of just like how you would be in your bedroom when nobody's around. That's usually your most true, authentic self is who you are, I mean, unless you just don't still give yourself permission, like internally. But yeah, I want people to see that part of me, even though I'm scared, shitless, because I know I'm freaking awesome and everybody deserves that. You are freaking awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's figuring out I guess it is right, figuring out how to show up authentic. You want to be authentic when you're on there. It's hard because sometimes, yeah, we hit, like, we hit record and we're like, yeah, even just the differences of us talking.
Speaker 2:Well, it's just like I think people think of. Well, if you're going to show up, authentic, then you just like be, you just be. But you have that like ego mind constantly coming in of, just like those like limiting belief, thoughts of like oh, should I make that noise? I really want to dance right now, but it's not appropriate. Oh, I really want to blah, blah, blah, blah. And sometimes there's a place and time for things, but I don't know, I hope there's never like a. I hope that we get to a place in the world where there's never like a place and time for things anymore, like I don't know.
Speaker 2:Emotional regulation is important, but I appreciate the world is trying to like just inherently allow people to to be more. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, do you have conversations with your ego? Because you talk about your ego mind stopping you something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I try to more now. Which y'all? Janet was the one that told me about this and it's frickin amazing, even this morning, you know, I was really, I guess I should say, this afternoon I was really struggling with finding some self compassion. I was beating myself up and I don't know what version of my ego that would be considered. But I'm trying really hard to just have conversations with myself more, to just allow myself to know that I am safe and I am okay and I'm a human and I make mistakes and that, like I can, I'm starting to catch it more in real time as it's happening, and allowing myself to have these conversations, because before I wouldn't even realize I was doing it. I was just so inherently, I guess, programmed or conditioned my brain would just do it and I wouldn't even be aware, and then it would just bring me into a spiral of like my entire day would be shit, of like, judgment, self critical thoughts, so and I was able to get myself out of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what it's about, right on that joy and finding it sometimes is we get in our own way a lot of the time and it's, you know, and some of it's that self talk or those different you know programming, that get in there and just man, just fuck it all up for us sometimes it's, but that would be something too like when you're doing the speaking thing, have a conversation with Diego before you go out. That's a great idea.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've been noticing that too. I'm like I hope I'm not talking over her and then just meshes, but technology.
Speaker 1:I'm just listening, because I love listening to you. You would have like great things to say.
Speaker 2:Well, um, do you have any like big fears that you're working through right now?
Speaker 1:I don't know if I can coach you as well as you coach me.
Speaker 1:But Right, no, no, yeah. So, um, yeah, like because I've been working on wanting to get this coaching business going for a while now and there's always been something that's been blocking me or stopping me from from taking the next step, which is like putting myself out there. So, and I think you know that's one of the fears is putting myself out there and what will people think. And I'm starting to get over that, right, with self love and things like that, like I really don't give a shit what people think about me. But I think I think the other fear I'm going getting through is the fear of being a success.
Speaker 2:Oh, so I relate, 100%.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we often fear. Our biggest fear is our light and our success, because, it's unknown, the hard parts of our life, the darkness, the I guess, I don't want to say I guess, just like where we have been, um is familiar, so that's safe.
Speaker 1:Well, and you think about it too, everybody else, or a lot of people that some people that we come across, you know a lot of people will have the fear of. Well, you know, people can't do that, or it's hard to really make it in that business, or you know what I mean. Like, a lot of people have a lot of the negative stuff and that comes at us, but then sometimes it's the positive. You're right, the positive side of it. You're like what, if I am a success? That's kind of scary too, you know. And how do you approach that?
Speaker 2:I guess my question to you would be like yeah, I feel like maybe we need to start answering our own questions. What if I am a success? What does that look like?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so one of the one of the ways what before I used to be like, well, if I'm a success, then the people around me Aren't gonna want to be around me, so I'll be alone. But I've gotten past that part because now, with self-love journey that I'm on, I'm never alone because I, you know, I love on myself and I give myself what I need. So it's kind of one of those. It's like like we were talking about before you find your tribe. So if they're, if they're my tribe, they'll come along with me, and if they're not my tribe, then they get left behind and I will learn to accept however that goes. But now it's, and so I think I'm getting to that point where I'm ready to launch, I'm ready to go, I've got my name, I'm like you're super excited about it. So now it's just doing the steps that it takes to get, to get it out there. So I feel more calm about it now than I ever have been.
Speaker 2:I'm excited for you and also you kind of snuck it in earlier. If you are wanting to share the title, if you do not edit this out.
Speaker 1:Are, you are you like for my business, yeah, yeah. Yeah, are you like? This should be out by now too, oh.
Speaker 2:Okay, I wasn't sure. I just got really excited.
Speaker 1:I was like is this the release? Yeah, basically, it's probably. Might be. Yes, let me. It's a red feather serenity. It's gonna be a self-empowering coach. So yeah, I mean Teaching people how to love on themselves and empower themselves to have the life they desire Get breaking through the blocks. Breaking through the fear, mm-hmm. Finding their joy is.
Speaker 2:Man, I mean, I'm just saying, the time is now, janet.
Speaker 1:It really is. And I think like that workshop right with Whitney and them last week was phenomenal and Really like it gave me the extra tools. Like it was kind of like I'm ready to launch, but I don't know what I need to do to launch, and they give me that kind of the extra tools. Here's the things you need to think about to kind of really like give me the, because sometimes that's the fear too, right, like what do I not know? I'm doing something I've never done before. What are the things I don't know? And so sometimes reaching out like you were talking about having a mentor or somebody like that, finding something that will give us all the information we need so we can feel more comfortable about the launch or the jump into the fear so that was very big for me last week was finding that good and I'm so glad that you have, like, all those tools.
Speaker 2:I feel the same way exactly, um, I, I, um. The other thing that it reminded me of, too, is you can like over prepare in a way where, like you don't know what you don't know, but you're never gonna know it all until you actually do it. So it's just kind of like you have to find that courage, the bravery within and just like fucking do it scared and if, if you quote, mess up, oh well, oh, you're beginning your learning. Everything's a lesson. So she told myself that more often.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, I think it's because you know like in society, some of the stories were told is you have to have it all figured out and people portray it when you look at social media seems like everybody got it all figured out, they know what they're doing and so we're afraid of that's. Another fear that come up for me that I've had to work through is what if I'm not good enough? What if I'm going to show people that I'm not? Don't have it all together like everybody else, right, like, so, like.
Speaker 1:Yeah realizing that Nobody's got the stuff figured out. We're all just doing it. We've got you know and, like you said, you're not going to know until you do it. It's like Playing a sport. You're not going to know how to play a sport until you get out there and start doing it. How many times are you going to like, dribble shit off your foot, kick it down the wrong way and you know you mess it up? So Having that kind of mentality on other things is like hey, if I kind of like. The podcast has been a big help for me because I've had to pivot a few times. It's not going exactly the way I had intended it to go from the beginning, but I've been in it and kept moving with it and it's been awesome. Like hey, it's okay, that's alright, that's not right. Well, you know, and I think there's something about that.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, and it shows like that you're resilient and you're willing to be flexible and move with what life is bringing for you, and maybe it's teaching you that as well. And also, side note, I just have to say that just remind me of friends, pivot Right, I have to say that, yeah, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1:I think about every time I say it to you, rock.
Speaker 2:It was. It was one of those moments where it's like gonna boil out of me, but that's the thing.
Speaker 1:Giving myself permission, like having a conversation with myself and giving myself permission to mess up, and almost like we learn so much from our failures. It's almost like hoping that I do fail so I can learn from it and pivot and Keep going and make it better and better. So so it's been neat to like I have those conversations with my ego and those are once we talk about hey, it's okay if we mess up, it's okay if we're not perfect, but we're going to put it out there because we want other people to know that it's okay to mess up, it's okay not to be perfect. We need more of that messages versus the you know perfect, perfect People that you know that they put out all the content that's perfect and they did this on one thing and everything is great. Like, yeah, fuck all that. Right, we're real people over here.
Speaker 1:Or at least maybe that's even the I don't want to worry about being perfect, right, exactly.
Speaker 2:Well, at least, that's the perception, like it might look like it's perfect, because that's what they want it to be perceived as potentially. But I mean, and maybe they just worked on their skills so much that it just took them one take because they've gotten to that point, but maybe they did take four million takes and they just finally got it right after the four million than first. But you just you literally never know. But it's so easy to just like go down that like mine spiral of like I have to be. You know, perceive, perceive, perceive. Everybody has to blow.
Speaker 2:It's just like that people pleasing mentality that I just want to say fuck off, so tired of it, like I mean, and it might seem it's exhausting. For a second I was like it might seem like that's a little intense. I don't care if it seems intense, it is intense. I've been living that way, we've been living that way our entire freaking life. Like.
Speaker 1:Oh, we're some recovering people, pleasers over here, don't mind us.
Speaker 2:The, the energy, the I don't even know what the emotions, the anger, the, all the things are so real.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, Well, and and like being taught that, like I was taught that that that's what I was supposed to do, and so Breaking that has been huge for me, breaking that limiting belief and and and the fact like learning that if I don't people please, I'm still a good person. I'm still worthy of love. I am still worthy, even if I'm not doing everything you want me to do for you.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, yes, I think that like that in general. And then I just keep Reading in different sources, books, where it's just like you are inherently Love, you are inherently worthy of love, just you existing is enough, even if you didn't do anything. Yeah at all. You just being sitting in a chair, living like I mean I just again this is my animal brain of like working with animals is. I go back to animals again. They don't do or appease to anything or anyone, they just are and we still love them.
Speaker 1:It's like how freaking beautiful is that?
Speaker 2:shit, first thing at the seams and feel like the other thing too, with animals.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the other part too is like nature, like mother nature, if you think about it, like we're always in awe of mother nature. Is she perfect? No, she's not, but we still in awe and we love, we love her and we and we enjoy it. So why can't we do that to each other? But we expect this different level, mm-hmm. And we're even worse to ourselves, you know we're. We're like a worse, worse friend ever, and how mean we can be to ourselves and beat ourselves up, yeah, things that we wouldn't mess with anybody else.
Speaker 2:So that man, it's a all it's all connected like. It just can go in like this big loop. But I Was telling somebody actually an Instagram comment today. She was like wondering how, like they were talking about competition between women and how Can somebody just be triggered by another woman succeeding another woman Like owning herself, whether it be in business, sexuality, like, like, whatever. And I was kind of saying like, oh well, it's like it's their own shame, it's their own Stuff, insecurities that they haven't worked through and it's a mirror.
Speaker 2:And there was somebody else that was saying like oh well, you know, I've always been Look down upon or judged or like because I'm like really successful and motivated and pretty and you know, it kind of makes me like despise, like these people.
Speaker 2:And I was thinking, you know that is valid 100%, even the negative emotions. But if you can get yourself to a place where you can turn like that despise into Compassion, because it's it's all connected to yourself, like, the more you despise another person, even if they're judging you, and it feels warranted, it all comes back in because then it's it. So it's just like, the more you bring compassion for another person, even if they're spewing hatred or judgment or whatever, and this kind of goes along with both of our fears. I feel like it. It just it's the reason why you can't take anything personal and it's the reason why you know it. It is only gonna help you love yourself more. It doesn't mean Tolerating unconditional love is not unconditional tolerance and you can distance yourself. You can love them at a distance or you can however that looks like for you and your boundary, but at the same time you can still find compassion and love and grace and maybe even forgiveness for whatever XYZ happened.
Speaker 1:It's all within man and you can look at it too. There's so many different ways. Yeah, the end, all right, we're done. Kelly's so awesome. It. That's power. It's so powerful because you're right, like, but the thing is like so if somebody's like that, you're being pout, you're powerful and you have all these negative Haters. That doesn't like it. Does it change what you're doing, change your journey? No, and, like you said, it's.
Speaker 1:It's more of a reflection of their insecurities and and them not, because sometimes we rub up against that, like when you have your light and you're shining your light and you're doing what you're doing, somebody that's not shining their light. It's going to offend them because they're seeing you do it and they're wondering why they can't do it, or they have all these. You know it's rubbing up against something in them and that's why they're lashing out or Reaching out or whatever it is that they're doing. So you have to like yeah, you can put that in compassion. Does that affect your journey at all? It only affects your journey if you allow them to affect your journey.
Speaker 1:So it's a mindset thing. Right in turning that around and going no, I'm. Instead, I'm going to give compassion to them because you know they're on their journey and they're not where I'm at. Here's love and light, have you know? Like you said, distance yourself, but then like, okay, it's not gonna affect, I'm not gonna allow it. It's a choice, not gonna allow it to affect my journey. Here's the journey I'm on yeah.
Speaker 1:It's my journey alone. I'm not competing with anybody else, because this is where I'm headed. This is where I'm going. Nobody's had the same experiences I had and nobody's going in the path that I'm going to, so how can we compete with each other?
Speaker 2:Yeah, are you gonna let like your light that you're exuding be brought down by others darkness that they're dealing with, or are you going to stand strong in your light and allow more light to come? Goals for me, I think, are where I can get to a place where I'm not triggered anymore by other people. That's just probably one of the biggest things of being a human, I feel like, is trying to get to that place where you just exude common peace.
Speaker 1:One of the things with triggers. Triggers show you places you need to heal. When you have a trigger come up, you're like, okay, what part of me needs to heal? Maybe you won't ever be completely done with triggers, but if you look at them as ways of finding what is it I need to heal on myself, or why am I bothered by this?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Just a little. No that makes 100% sense. I guess my brain is just going like how do you bring fear to love If we can take these triggers, look at where do I need to heal and then work through it. You'll get little micro doses of people maybe giving that to you and then you're like eventually getting better and better and better at it as you go along and then maybe you can get to a place where you're actually exuding more light to them and helping them heal.
Speaker 1:I would add something to that is turning fear to self-love In a way of looking at when you have the fear or these people are bugging you. Where am I not showing up for myself? Where am I not loving on myself, because you can always usually find it's something you're missing of giving to yourself when am I disrespecting myself? Where am I not showing up for myself Like taking action? I'm not taking action for myself, so I'm letting myself down. So I need to take action because I love myself. So you can turn it a lot around Now. You're not expecting other people in your life to give you that validation. Where am I not validating myself? Where am I not pumping myself up? Where am I letting myself down? And if you can answer those questions, you can usually figure out where it's at.
Speaker 2:I think I'm going to need you to repeat that for me like another five to 20 times, so that way I can start saying that in real time in my head. That's good, hello.
Speaker 1:So, yes, I did it again where I had to cut the conversation, so me and Kelly ended up talking for a long time. I'm going to have some of the other stuff that we talked about. I'll release it in smaller episodes, some of the minis. We had a great time talking, always love when Kelly's on and we have a great time together, and so, yeah, I did let it slip a little bit about my red feather, serenity, my coaching business that I'm super excited about. So follow along, I will have the website and everything is ready within days. We're just right here on the edge of it and I'm so excited to be rolling this out. So thank you for listening to me and Kelly and then stay tuned for more of the conversation that we had. We always have a good time together. Love that girl, love her energy. So until next time, stay wonderfully weird.