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Traneisha Season 3 Episode 2

In this special episode, recorded the day after the 2024 election, friends Traneisha and Crutch dive into the highs, lows, and surprises of election night. From laughs and side-eyes to moments of reflection, they cover what’s next for the country, how they’re feeling about the results, and what’s on their minds as they wake up to a new political landscape.

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Speaker 1:

what's up? Gang trinisha english here and you are listening to the things you should know podcast. And before we get started today, if you haven't already, here's your reminder to like and subscribe to the podcast. Wherever you get your podcast, I feel like it works better when you can see, like when we can talk to each other face to face, which is why I'm so big on facetiming, because I like to see you when I'm talking to you, because there's just so much context that could be let lost, like if you're making a face like whatever and you know I be getting in my feelings like sometimes people say things and I'd be like, oh love, I like the way you said that so. So having that facial context really helps that. So that's why I FaceTime unless I'm out in the world moving around talking.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because you should see my face. This morning, when you called me with your foolery, I said not this. Yeah, I got first because I was still a little lit or waking up. I'm like no, I say that. I'm like no, you can't say that what's up everybody.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much, uh, for tuning in. This is the things you should know. Podcast featuring trinisha english. I am trinisha english and, uh, like I said, we're coming back, we're coming strong. Um, and here with one of our fan favorites, someone that we all know and love everybody. Let's give a round of the plot of applause for the girl back on the podcast, danielle Crutcher. Most appearances on the podcast I think you now hold, so you know. Yes, I should get a t-shirt. Put it on the t-shirt. I think you need to get to five and right now you're only at three, so at this point, I just need to be a co-host, a co-star, the co I mean.

Speaker 2:

Listen I'm down for the monthly the girls episode, so you let me yes, the girls schedule together, we'll figure it out you see how she, uh, really like, she just like really pivoted, that like she said nah, you can't be a co-host, but we can do a monthly something well, it wasn't pivoting like that.

Speaker 1:

I just know how our schedules work and us being weekly co-hosts just really ain't gonna shake, just because we're always in the wind and always, usually, always traveling opposite directions it's okay we can find some synergy.

Speaker 2:

I can be available every monday actually here's.

Speaker 1:

Here's what we're gonna do. If you guys are want crutch to be the official podcast host, hit us up on the line 239-9696.

Speaker 2:

We're gonna take a poll, we'll see what the listeners think and we'll go from there yeah, because you keep saying fan favorite and I feel like you said it by everybody, so that's not true?

Speaker 1:

okay, all right, well, we'll get that off here we go.

Speaker 2:

Here we go because we're in scorpio season. This is my rising listen mine too.

Speaker 1:

I've got a scorpio rising, so oh, I finally get them all back and forth.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, um, thanks for hopping on with me today. I usually don't really do this, but I feel like this episode needs a time stamp. So, for everyone listening, when you listen to this episode, it is is being recorded on Wednesday, november 6th 2024, at 1113 am, and if you are listening to this and either live under a rock or way way into the future, it is the day after the 2024 election. It is the day after the 2024 election, and early this morning we found out that Donald Trump will be our 47th president of the United States. So that's where we are, that's where the girls are showing up here today. I know that was heavy, but I just kind of want to. I think, like I want to ask you a question that everybody's asking's asking you today. Like hey, how are you? How are you feeling?

Speaker 2:

how are things? That's, that's the voices.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's the voice I think they use, or that's the voice I'm getting because you've been talking to white people.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that well, I was asking it, like them anyway um this morning I woke up, so I went out last night right oh, turn up people empowering.

Speaker 2:

I was in a queer black space. They were like, yeah, because we're gonna do this, yada, yada, yada. I'm like, yeah, um, got home, was a little lit, woke up and then reality hit me and I was like yo and I was sad. I was really sad this morning Just thinking about not only being a woman excuse me, not only being black, but also being a woman, but then also being queer.

Speaker 2:

I was like, damn, I got to get my egg retrie retrieval right now. Like I gotta have a baby right now. I gotta get married right now, because I'm not sure how long those things I will have, the how long I will have the rights or the opportunity to do those things. Um, and that that part made me really sad. The other things, yes for, but those things in particular, as I'm like trying to like start a family, I want to start a family and, you know, have my life partner and and just like not awarded those opportunities because I'm not a heterosexual. So that that was really heavy on my heart this morning. So I was sad. Um, yeah, that was the first thing that happened this morning yeah, thanks for sharing that.

Speaker 1:

Um, I definitely cannot relate to all of that but definitely empathize. That's yeah, empathize with all of that and see like the uncertainty of it, um, but I woke up in a very different space, um, this morning and I don't want to negate like there is some sadness, there's definitely some disappointment, um, and I do think like this is colored by two things that are really true about me. One I'm a pessimist. Say it again, you're what.

Speaker 1:

I am a pessimist by textbook, like by textbook definition. If you look up the word pessimist in the dictionary, I am in the list of names, right, if you need an example, um, but I I like to think that my pessimism is based in realism and a little like a realism, and I live in Indiana, which is a deeply conservative state, and so for the last I would say, three and a half to two years, I have heard about how conservatives feel about the state of the country and the economy and what's going on, and I, unfortunately, have always had some sort of inkling that this would be the outcome and we'll say, or this would have been the outcome, and we'll have spent quite a bit of time bracing myself for that, hoping for the best right, but preparing for the worst.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, to be honest, talking to you this morning too, before we jumped on the podcast, made me feel a little better like your perspective, as your pessimist self, and like we've been here before, right, and we're gonna get through it. It's just the four years of it is like damn. I don't even actually don't remember what it felt like before. To be honest at this point. Yeah, I remember the.

Speaker 2:

I remember when it happened, like I went to work and my executive director at the time was like she sat us down, like hey, let's have a conversation I can only imagine what everyone's feeling and told us a story about her growing up and in alabama in the 60s and how, like she went to a really small school and her dad was like hey, they're about to integrate, like you don't have to stay here, and she stayed during integration at the school. So she went to school with black folks because she's a white woman. And then she also told us this other story within that, trying, I guess, like um, what's the word? Soothe us. She was telling us how, like this black man like almost attacked her and I was like this shit just went left real quick. I'm confused. What are you talking about? Why'd you tell us this story?

Speaker 2:

yo you know, and that's what I remember, and then the four years have passed I mean, yeah, like yo, like um it.

Speaker 1:

It feels a little like cliche, but like part of what I said to you this morning is one we've been through this before, we've made it through, we'll do it again, and the American people, but specifically black people, have made it through harder, like we know how to make. That is what we are the best at making the best out of a good thing. But at the end of the day, this election just reiterates that the American experiment is working as it was designed. Right. In America, being white and male significantly advantages you, period Point blank. Right, and that is what we just saw when the framers, when the founders, were building this country, they were can. They built it so that white, wealthy, affluent men could succeed at. And that's what we're seeing. Right and I.

Speaker 1:

You can argue the wealth and affluence of donald trump, but what you can't argue is his whiteness and his reliance on whiteness, right, I mean, and what is it? What does it symbolize for a people who have based their ideas of superiority on that to allow not only a woman but a black woman to hold that office, right? Um, so I? To me it's just more of, again, it's, it's the, the equation working the way um that it was designed to work, so yeah yeah, even it's thinking about.

Speaker 2:

Like, when you look at, you said something about uh, kamala, not getting the kamala harris, the kamala uh sweatshirt you was gonna get, with the 47 on it. Yeah, this is good, call you listen, there was this dope ass.

Speaker 1:

Kamala harris sweatshirt 47. Brooklyn dodgers like um, like markup had it in the cart to buy texted crutch yesterday and was like I don't want to buy this because part of me feels like this is the stuff that's going to get sent to another country. World champion. World champion new york yankees 2024 is going to be the kids in the third world country wearing um that, because that's not what happened.

Speaker 2:

So that's not what happened yesterday I saved my little 60 bucks, oh, 60 dollars.

Speaker 2:

Hey, I was about to buy one too. Yeah, that's the last. Like three bottles of red wine, I like um, but when I think, like when you said that, yeah, uh, this morning, I was like looking at all the presidents and I was like, damn, look all these white male faces. This is crazy that you all think as a country that these people continue and should be leading our country. Like we talk rah, diversity, equity, inclusion, but like, look at the leaders of our country, there is no diversity in that at all. They're all white males with the same haircut yeah, I mean except yeah and obviously, except for barack.

Speaker 1:

But I think, right, we looked at barack as what was possible and that is what is possible. But we have to remember that barack obama, the obamas, are a symbol of black exceptionalism. They are not the symbol of of black like I don't want to say like black prosperity, but they're they. This country is designed for there to be fewer Obamas. Right, it is designed for us to have one, maybe two of those. There will never be a multitude of that, because that is how the country was designed.

Speaker 1:

Like, we are talking about a black woman who's running for president, who, when this country was founded, she was only seen as three-fifths of a person and, as a woman, didn't have any rights, right, so, like this is a tough hill to climb and no, like, no shade right, like I also want to name, like this is still success. Like this is still a lot of progress. Right, there was a point in time where a black woman being a black, also asian woman, right, being a the major or a candidate for a presidential candidate in a major party is absolutely unheard of and it's really, really great that we have been able to meet that hurdle. But it's going to take a lot to break the glass ceiling because the system is designed for so few, uh, people who do not meet the mold of white man to to make it to the finish line there right and if you look at the order of things right like, are we supposed to have a white woman become president first before a black woman, right?

Speaker 1:

listen and I said this to one of our colleagues in july like I just don't see the country giving it to a black woman before they give it to a white woman historically in our country as we think about progress. White women all often gain um the or meet the benchmark, before black women do, so it would have been really interesting for us to be able to jump this presidential hurdle um at the same time.

Speaker 2:

So, yeah, it makes me think about like yo, even though people know like he is not the right fit, right women.

Speaker 1:

I'm talking about white women particularly well, I'm actually gonna push back on you because I don't know that we can say that white women know that he is not the best fit. As I'm looking at these, uh, uh, racial breakdowns by sex 52 percent of white women voted for donald trump last are in this current election. So, uh, the majority of white women do not feel like he's the do feel like he is the best fit.

Speaker 2:

So that's what I'm saying, like, they know that he's not the best, but they know that he's going to take away. They know that he's going to take away their rights. Right, however the ego. There's no way I'm letting a white woman, a black woman, become president for a white woman. Right, even though it makes sense and it protects me, more so, but I just can't let that happen. Right, doesn't make sense. The math, not math. And what is it? Five plus five is not equal in 10 to them, it's equal to, like, three.

Speaker 1:

And I me too, because remember they got on a Zoom call together, and I me too, because remember they got on a Zoom call together. They had this conversation in private and they broke.

Speaker 1:

Zoom to talk about how this wasn't the time for them to be worried about what color this woman looks like. It's about womanhood altogether. And I think still now we see here in another election and I don't want to generalize white women, but 52% of y'all um are are are willing not to vote in your best interests based on some other thing, right? Or the women around you's best interest based on some other thing, right. Like 92 percent of black women voted for kamala harris, right, we don't talk about you. Seven percent who didn't later, we don't, we'll have.

Speaker 1:

We'll do something on the side for y'all, along with the 20% of black men, but at the end of the day, black women and black men only make up. Black women make up 7% of the electorate and black men make up 5% of the electorate. So for an election cycle to be extremely focused on minorities Latino men 6% of the electorate. Latino women 6% of the electorate For us to be really focused on these minority groups who Latino women, voted for Harris at 61%. Latino men only at 44%. So we'll put them in the side.

Speaker 1:

We'll talk to them later. But, like I said, 92 percent of black uh women, 78 percent of black men, but only 39 percent of white men, 47 percent of white women. So, for all of you white liberals who are so enraged, don't say anything to the minorities. It's your team that isn't doing what you would like for them to do you need to talk to the white people instead of us being really concerned about what minority groups are turning out.

Speaker 1:

Minority groups what? What are we doing about shifting or challenging the ideas of white folks, specifically white evangelicals or white conservatives, who are single issue voters? Either the economy or abortion? I'm disappointed it's, it's, it's again. Yeah, I would say like it's disappointing, but it's not surprising, right it's just not surprising.

Speaker 2:

It's just not surprising, right, right. Yeah, you're a pessimist, I'm an optimist. Um, I'm like yo, we gonna do it like this, no way. But the ego man is something else, like I. Just I can't fathom letting a black woman run the country, even though it protects me more than this white 85 year old man who is still living in jim crow yeah, I also will say like I think the biggest disconnect is the cultural structure makeup.

Speaker 1:

Typically, communities of color are are communities that are based on the betterment of the community right. So I, as a black woman, may be in a tax bracket where it's actually more advantageous for me to come to um vote for conservative policies but when I?

Speaker 1:

think about the impact that those policies will have on my community. I put my community first and I vote in the best interest of my community and not necessarily in the best interest of my pocket book. And historically and we can look at the stats white communities don't feel that way. White communities are like single issue or self voters first. If these policies benefit me, I'm not necessarily concerned about their impact on the larger community. Or the benefit to me in my mind outweighs the impact on the larger community. So I only will vote in my best interest Now.

Speaker 1:

I will also tell you that I think that the Republican party and conservatives and MAGA specifically, have done a really great job of of capitalizing on allowing socially economic whites who are not as so-called next blah blah.

Speaker 1:

Let me say this again poor whites is what is what they were referred to back in the jim crow days, so we're just going to use that.

Speaker 1:

They've done a really good job of allow, of, like making poor whites feel included or connected to this right, which is exactly what they did in jim crow, which is why slavery was able to go for him, because even white people who were not benefiting from the system either took solace in the superiority over black specifically as we talk about slavery or other minority groups or felt more connected. They more identify with your whiteness and the privilege that is connected to whiteness. So I'm willing to come alongside that to get the benefits of whiteness instead of voting, in the best interest of my community and as long as white voters are conditioned that way, as long as we continue to capitalize on that and listen, that is a generational curse, right there, right that white people, the community of whites, have been voting that way forever, and until we break that, that is when I think we'll see the diversity and equity and inclusion, the america that we all hope for and we all dream of.

Speaker 2:

And again I say that is not on the backs of people of color, that is on the backs of white folks yes get your friends, y'all get your friends, get your homies 47 wait, 48, go get the other 52, the other 52, yeah, uh, everybody get one friend, that's it, just go get one. Yeah, I mean like we're talking to white women specifically yeah, go get one friend, go get one friend and and have a conversation, right and like.

Speaker 1:

Not these, um, such contentious like I think that's the other. My other thing like, not these contentious like, yell it, like, ah, you're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong, but no, like, let's genuinely like, politics is about compromise. So you're on this extreme, I'm on this extreme. Let's find a conversation like, let's have a conversation to figure out what's the, what's the common denominator, where can we agree and then move from there. Where can we create a world that most of us can, can benefit and thrive in, and move from there. I mean, I'm done, statted you down.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna hit you with one last stat and then I want to shift to talk a little bit about how, um, I'm doing this call of action in my life. Uh, but if we look at race as a whole uh, 65 of non-white voters uh voted for. Uh, kamala harris 43 of white voters voted for kamala harris. 55 of white voters voted for Donald J Trump. I don't know how long it's been since y'all taken stats, calculus, algebra, but I would implore you all to just do some math, ask some questions and take some action from there to reach this America that you dream of.

Speaker 1:

That's good the numbers don't lie, baby. The numbers do not lie, they don't. Hey listeners, just a quick reminder to subscribe and follow our podcast so you never miss an episode. And if you're enjoying the show, please rate and review us wherever you get your podcast. Your support means the world to us. Now back to the show.

Speaker 2:

Uh, yeah, that's the 92 percent, though, of black women right there, shout out to y'all, bro black black women are going to save america.

Speaker 1:

In fact, that's the reason why y'all should have selected that black woman, because black women always do what's in the best interest of of the country, of their communities so yeah, of their communities, so of their communities. And because black women are so low on the racial and gender hierarchy, what is best for our community usually uplifts every community. So, in the words, of Chelsea.

Speaker 1:

Handler, talk to a black woman and do what she does in the voting booth Period. One thing, though, as we talk about this, I just want to want to name right, because black women love y'all 92 of y'all, and actually I want to speak directly to the 92 of black women. And crutch, I'm talking to you because I know you, you're in this 92, so that's right. Um, I've seen things, I've heard things that this is a referendum on how the country thinks or feels about black women. It is not black women. We don't got nothing to do with this. In fact, I woke up this morning feeling like you know how? Uh, something happens at work. Everybody get in trouble it's called a big meeting.

Speaker 1:

Everybody's in trouble, the supervisor's going off and it's always like the one person in the corner who is smiling and laughing talking about things. She ain't talking to me. I ain't doing this for me this morning, on wednesday, november 6th. That's how every black woman in this country should feel except for those, that's seven percent, the seven percent, y'all get that.

Speaker 1:

But the, the, the 92, like no, no, we showed up to the group project, we did our part, and if we are being graded individually, we get an a plus. We did what we were supposed to do. It is someone else. So this is not a referendum on black women, on our power. Again, this is this, the, the experiment of america, the equation of america calculating the way it was designed to calculate right, and so that's what it is. So this is no knock.

Speaker 1:

I don't want y'all worrying and telling young black girls like, oh, this is no, no, no, no, no, no. Kamala climbed the mountain and the others did not do what it took to get her to over the finish line. Like, this is not about black women. This is not about our power. This is not about what we do. What it took to get her to over the finish line, like this is not about black women. This is not about our power. This is not about what we do, what we can do. This is not about our value. This election reflects on black women in no way shape, form or fashion. So, black women the 92 percent of us I want you to hold your head high. I want you to make the space that you need. I want you to take the space that you need. I want you to say what you need to say and I want you to check these white women whenever you get a chance and I'm gonna tell you how I did it today yeah, oh, love it.

Speaker 2:

Come on, let's get to it, sis all right, y'all.

Speaker 1:

So it's the morning after the election. I work at a non-profit and if you've never worked at a non-profit, one of the things that you can usually assume at a non-profit especially youth serving non-profit is that it's overwhelmingly liberal. Usually that's kind of the place where we stay. So four weeks I have known that if this is, election didn't turn out in a certain way, people were really going to struggle, right, people struggled yesterday and today because things didn't go the way we thought they should go. A lot of meetings are getting canceled. People are saying, oh, I want to step back, I need to take care of myself. Now I will know.

Speaker 1:

One of our organizational values or practices is we call it step up, step back, self-care. So we allow everyone the opportunity to step up if you know, if you haven't stepped up, but if you need the opportunity to step back, you can step back. So this is not frowned upon in the organization as a whole. Hypothetically, hypothetically, the organization as a whole, hypothetically, hypothetically. However, if you are someone in our organization who needed to be at a school today, the likelihood that you could be. Like a, the election really sucked last night, I'm not coming to work kind of slim if I'm gonna be honest, kind of slim.

Speaker 1:

So I look at my chats on the computer and I see a note from a couple of my colleagues. So, mind you, we had two meetings scheduled for this afternoon. Um, and in the cohort that I work in, I am the only person of color. We're all women, but I'm black. We're all women, but I'm black. Yeah, anyway, I wake up, um, looking in the slack, and one of my colleagues has posted just like hey, y', I really need to step back today. Like last night was a lot, I need to step back. And then another one of my colleagues has responded and is like yeah, I can see that. Happy to give people a space if we need it. What do we want to do? Everybody chime in. What do we want to do? Everybody chime in.

Speaker 1:

So I, I do want to name, like listen, I love working with this group of women, but, like yo, like last night was like the election has been a lot, like it has been a lot, I really don't want to work today either. Like I, I do want to make that clear. I don't. I don't want to be in that meet. I did not want to go to that meeting. I do not want to make that clear. I don't want to be in that meeting. I did not want to go to that meeting. I do not want to go to that meeting.

Speaker 1:

But personally I think about how there have been so many days where catastrophic things have happened to people in my communities Black people, I mean, and I can list them all, all. But the list goes on and on and nobody says anything. I just have to show up, I have to push through, and so, while personally I am down to cancel this call, culturally I am having some thoughts. So I call the homegirl crutch and I'm like hey, yo tell me if I'm tripping. And she says, no, you're not tripping, have a great point, but the slack that you're about to send is going to start a riot. And so, like real friends do, she checked me and together we came up with, uh, something that I share with my co-workers that I would say I'm really proud of. Um, and I'll read it to y'all it says I'm having conflicting professional and cultural thoughts about this. I'm happy to do whatever the group needs, but I will say that many individuals who look like me in the organization do not have this luxury or feel safe enough to ask for it. I would encourage you to uplift this with your team and to can and to uplift this with your team in the continuing days slash weeks, regardless of what we decide about today's call Period Period. Team in the continuing days slash weeks. Regardless of what we decide about today's call period period.

Speaker 1:

Shout out to danielle crutcher for encouraging me to add the call to action.

Speaker 1:

So it wasn't just you know me yelling at the um wind or you know yelling old lady yelling at the porch and being the angry black woman.

Speaker 1:

And also for telling me to take out the part where I said what y'all really need to do is go talk to white women, because that is the reason that y'all are in this situation. So if you want to go cancel this meeting, to go knock on the doors of some white women and figure out what the hell is going on there, all about it, two thumbs up. But if you just want to cancel the meeting because today is hard, days will be hard and in this country, people of color have a lot of really hard days who have still every day gotten up to work and come and done what needed to be done and it just felt a little yuck to be like, hey, we need to take care of ourselves, because we didn't think about each other right and so that was my call and push, and I encourage you all, um, in these next coming days, in these moments when you're having these conversations, but especially when you're having them with white women, call them to action.

Speaker 1:

What are they going to do?

Speaker 2:

do you know this? This makes me think about something. I was having a conversation with someone yesterday and they were saying they were talking about their organization, which is also a non-profit um, and they were saying how their supervisor sent the message on the the chat as well we're not going to call it what it is, because they broke the internet last time Anyway sent a message and was like if you haven't voted, we're off tomorrow. If you haven't voted, go vote. And wrote it in caps. The person who sent the message, the supervisor, is a white person. They're talking to the people that they manage, who are a bunch of black women, and it's like no, send that message, take that shit from slack and put in your group. Chat with your white friends. Yeah, that's what it. Don't you have to tell us to go vote, you don't have to tell me that. And then the next message goes you know we have this event Coming up on Friday, regardless of what happens in the election.

Speaker 2:

Make sure that we remain professional. Number one Are you blind or deaf? Why do we have this huge event during the week of election week? We could have had the event before. We could have it after, but why?

Speaker 2:

why this? Because people are gonna have feelings. So, basically, what you're saying is regardless of how I feel, going back to what your, your call action was, regardless of what I feel today, come in and go to work on wednesday for the big event on friday, not if you need to take some space and no, but if I need to take some space, I'm probably gonna take some space as this white woman.

Speaker 1:

But to my black subordinates be ready to come to work professionally on wednesday, regardless of what happens on tuesday yeah, and let's like, even put it like, not only like, do you have this luxury as this white woman because you are in a position of power, right, and speaking truth to power is not telling your subordinates that a this is going to be crazy.

Speaker 1:

But regardless what happens, I need for you to show up on wednesday because we got something to do on friday. It's putting that in the group chat hey, I need for y'all to go vote, I need for the women who look like me to go vote and to show up on wednesday 10 toes down, no matter what happened, and say, hey, that's on us, that's what we wanted. The royal disappointed, it's. It's again disappointing, not surprising. Not surprising, but disappointing. And I guess I say all of that to say I wanted to record this or the point that I want you to take away. The thing that I think you should know is the call needs to come from inside the house like the call needs to come from inside the house.

Speaker 1:

One of the things that really bothers me is someone criticizing me when they don't got their shit together yes, like that will send me immediately, like you need to make sure and I'm not saying that you got to be perfect but before you come over here talking about me and what I'm doing, before you come over here talking about the seven percent of white uh, black women that we gonna check, don't worry about it, we got them. But before you come over here talking about the seven percent of black women, I need for you to do something about the 52 percent of the white right. Do something about that. Before you come over here talking about the uh 20 percent of black men, which don't get me started as someone who is, unfortunately, attracted to men specifically black women's.

Speaker 1:

We, there will be a private meeting, please. No, because you, the seven percent of black women, we gonna we gonna sit down and have a talk and I want you to tell me why. I want to understand what she was thinking. I really do, yeah, because there are some things that I want to understand where you're thinking from. But the 20 of black men, please, please, leave your black cards and your loud seasoning salt at the door, because I'm cutting that shit up. You do not have access, like at the general meeting next week. You will not be allowed in. You can't, no, and don't even think about listening to anything produced by quincy wonder or quincy wonder anything produced by quincy jones, anything written by stevie wonder no conscious rap music for you all, like y'all, are on punishment.

Speaker 1:

You will be dealt with accordingly. But before any of y'all outside of the black delegation check them, check your people, right latino women, check y'all 37 latino men, check your 54, in fact, latino men y'all. Probably y'all need to come together and get to some some consensus going really because that's y'all.

Speaker 2:

Y'all need to come together and get to some some consensus going really. Because that's y'all, y'all need to go with the white woman, because you know what listen 50 is crazy, wild, wild, wild the man came and said there's a piece of shit in the ocean. Here's the thing, though.

Speaker 1:

Yeah he did say that about puerto rico, there was florida floating island of trash. But here's what I will say uh, latino communities are not a monolith and there are some latinos that do feel that way about puerto rico, right, like we're talking about a mix of you know. So there is that. Listen, I'll give y'all that. So that's why I say latino me, y'all probably need to just come together and figure out what are y'all common denominator, lowest common denominators, and I think y'all's delegation just needs to really start having some conversations and get on one page. That that's what I would. I wish and hope for you. Oh yeah, I don't. I don't want to hear. Don't invite me to your rally. I don't want your little pink pussy hat. I don't want any of it. Don't call me, don't call us to speak. Don't ask our legends to show up. Meg the stallion is not coming to twerk. Beyonce isn't gonna grace her press. No, you get taylor swift on the phone and y'all figure it out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and you know what? It's not even that difficult, right? Because if we're looking, 52% is an overwhelming number. That's one to one. One to one, it's a little over one to one, look right. But grab one and a quarter of your homies and be like bro, what's up? Well, that's not how they're going to say it. Hey Hi, homies, and be like bro, what's up? Well, that's not how they're gonna say it. Hey hi, I can't even do it, hi can you tell me more about your decisions?

Speaker 1:

and your values y'all went to that heiress tour. Y'all went to that heiress tour and I want y'all to know that y'all were standing so shoulder to shoulder with women who voted for trump at that shoulder shoulder. Every other woman in that went and cast a vote for donald trump.

Speaker 2:

Every other, every other woman all you gotta do is just grab a friend all my democrat, a democratic woman, white women grab one friend. It's just take one, just one friend, and talk to them and get more understanding and shed some light. Shed some light about how you about to get, you get pregnant. You can't go get an abortion.

Speaker 1:

Just say that or you may you may be able to, if you are making a certain amount of money and can afford to travel to a state where you can get an abortion Right Like I visit Minnesota, you know, at least once a year. So if things get a little, you know, sticky, yeah, but yeah, like the like, are we having those conversations? Are we thinking about communities as a whole? Are we thinking about how the politics and the policies are going to move us towards this inclusive, diverse community that we're talking about, that we say we want, that we hope america is? Or do we all need to realize and look at each other and say, hey, y'all, that's just some bullshit we be saying because it sound good right like that's.

Speaker 2:

That's what this means. At the rate we're going, we're gonna go back to 1946, where no woman could vote or controller. That day might be inaccurate. Y'all my bad.

Speaker 1:

Well, here's the thing right, you know, it wasn't until 1974, I believe, that a woman could have a credit card, like, or her own personal bank account, right, so, yeah, there was two. Yeah, so again. So my point is, yeah, that date could be wrong. It could be bubble, no, no, no, no. Women like it's only in the last 30 years that a woman could own a home without a man. It's only in the last 50 years that a woman could ask for a divorce, right, like women like y'all are talking about, oh, back back, back, back back, nah, nah, baby girl, things was a little hazy for us five years ago, like and again, that's not 92, 92 when beyonce told us to get information.

Speaker 2:

We listen yeah, you know, I'm gonna also say, friend, the eight percent, because you keep saying seven, but I'm gonna add one more.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, there's like a. You know some people vote green, but you're right, yeah, yeah yeah, but what like what y'all doing, but we're not worried about y'all. We're not worried about y'all. Listen when we're putting, when we put the grades up, we have the highest score. We are the curve. The curve bends to us.

Speaker 2:

So is that not surprising? Always it's always been that way we know. But that's that's for another day.

Speaker 1:

We're not talking about that right now so that's the thing that I hope, that you know, that's the thing that I hope you'll take away. On this election turnover, on this, on this election hangover day right, yeah, things didn't turn out the way that we wanted. But one this work doesn't start, um, in 2028. This work doesn't even start in. Uh, yeah, this work starts now, right, right now. Yeah, 2028 is the midterm. Oh, why can't add when's the next presidential election?

Speaker 1:

it's, it's gonna be 20, oh no 2028 is the presidential election, 2026 my bad is the midterm. So I had it right this work doesn't start then. This work starts now. And this work isn't combative. This work isn't um rallies. This work isn't protest that's part of it. But this work is at thanksgiving next week, sitting down and having real conversations and trying to get to to real solutions right and figure out what real solutions could be. This work is having a conversation that your friends giving this work is chatting about it with your homegirls at the bar. This work is having conversations while standing in line to get into the taylor swift contest. This work happens every day and it happens through conversation, through understanding, through compromise because I can't fucking believe we're here again, again disappointing not surprising what's up, gang trinisha english here, and I hope you're enjoying today's episode.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 1:

My new favorite thing is to watch episodes of scooby-doo like they are, like csi, miami or like you know something like that yeah, so I'll be trying to guess who is really up to stuff and and, uh, I've got I'm getting some new perspective on velma, but we'll well, that's. That's for another time. Anyway, I guess what I will say is so I'm gonna go retreat into some cartoons before I tackle this math. I wish some more spaghetti and love and positivity on your way. I encourage everyone listening to this, when you hear this, to do something that brings you joy, because the work is not done, but we can. Only we do our best work when we're rested. So take some rest, do what you need and let's get back to it the things.

Speaker 2:

The thing I think everyone should know is I'm so happy you touched on joy. Um, yeah, we've been here before, right, and we're still here now, right, we moved through it. So, as it's gonna be tough, but yeah, find joy and it's it's, it really will be okay yeah, at some point, at some point, it'll be fine. Listen the list of terrible ass presidents is long.

Speaker 1:

It is long. The list of ineffective, mediocre, awful presidents is long and somehow the country is still standing. We were still standing after the first trump presidency. We were still standing after january 6th we'll make it through this.

Speaker 2:

I made it here after slavery, after slavery.

Speaker 1:

Listen, we've been through so much. Um, we got this, but again the work doesn't stop.

Speaker 1:

So so, find joy, do the work do your part, yeah, and if the work isn't uncomfortable, you're not doing the right work. As always, I actually want to just give you thanks and appreciation one for just always being the homie, always being there as a sounding board and someone who holds me accountable and checks me and lets me know when I'm leaning a little bit too close to the eight percent black women. Um, and appreciate you for coming and on the pod but also being a part of my election day hangover healing yeah, I'm so happy I forced you to be my friend.

Speaker 1:

Yeah yeah, all those years ago, it's who knew, who knew, who I knew, I knew, I know. All right, y'all, I appreciate y'all. Um, take care of yourselves, do what you need and I'll talk to you next time. Okay, bye, bye, friends. Yeah, I hope that I'm gonna try and edit that and get that out tomorrow right now, yeah, actually, well, I probably I may, you know, I might be able to edit while I'm watching scooby-doo. I was just about to say that. Have you ever re-watched sco Doo?

Speaker 2:

No, I just know that the motherfucker's high as hell.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, it's very much like a 70s acid trip.