Heal and Stay Healed with Kelly B Haney

These Are a Few of My Favorite (Healing) Things: New Resources and Recommendations

• Kelly B Haney • Season 1 • Episode 8

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In this episode, Brian Haney joins as co-host for a Q&A on my latest recommendations for healing resources that I’ve come across. Items discussed include a hodgepodge of books, podcasts, recipes, health-promoting products, and interesting new research results. We chat about centenarians, vocabulary, ‘90’s nostalgia, and mocktails, among other things. There’s a lot of laughing going on in this mostly light-hearted episode, especially while discussing my recent baking fail!

Links to resources mentioned in the episode:

- The Well Lived Life: A 102-Year-Old Doctor’s Six Secrets to Health & Happiness at Every Age https://gladysmcgarey.com/

- Buy Yourself the F***ing Lilies https://www.taraschuster.com/

- The Rich Roll Podcast https://www.richroll.com/all-episodes/

- This American Life https://www.thisamericanlife.org/

- Pod Meets World https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-pod-meets-world-98589488/

- Team Sherzai’s Brain Building Totally Possible Burgers https://www.theneuroplan.com/blog/brain-healthy-recipe-brain-building-totally-possible-burgers/

- Danielle Walker’s Chocolate Strawberry Frozen Yogurt Bites https://www.instagram.com/daniellewalker/reel/C3QxHnayYj4/

- Mocktail Club Mocktails https://www.mocktailclub.com/

- Washington Post Article https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2024/02/29/ultraprocessed-foods-health-risk/


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Speaker 2:

Welcome to the Heal and Stay Healed podcast, where we talk about healing and, more importantly, staying healed from chronic disease and other ailments and issues. We'll cover all the crazy things about health and life the good, the bad, the ugly and the hilarious. My name is Kelly and I'm a survivor and overcomer of severe autoimmune disease, and I can't wait to share with you what I've learned so that you can heal and stay healed too. Thanks for listening and enjoy the show. Welcome back to the Heal and Stay Healed with Kelly Bihini podcast. Thanks so much for joining us today. Being that a lot of my episodes thus far have had a fairly serious tone, as is natural due to the fairly serious topics that we discuss, I thought it was time for a more fun and a little more lighthearted episode. So today with me I have a former podcast guest who has, for the day, been upgraded to co-host, my real life partner, brian Heaney. Welcome, co-host Brian.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, kelly, for having me on. I look forward to this temporary promotion to co-host and I'm really excited to be able to have a lighthearted and fun conversation with you, and I hope your audience gets a lot out of what we get to talk about today.

Speaker 2:

Well, we have a looser Q&A style format today. Brian's going to be asking me some great questions and there will be lots of sharing some of my favorite things with you, which will be a random assortment of things that I've come across that have all been a part of my healing journey, and some of them are very recent, so I'm pretty excited for this.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think it's time for us to turn the microphone around and ask you some questions for a change, because you've done such a good job interviewing and having some great episodes with your guests. Are you ready for that?

Speaker 2:

I sure am ready.

Speaker 1:

All right, here we go. We'll start with one that I am pretty interested in. In naming your podcast, why did you decide to call it the Heal and Stay Healed podcast?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's a good question.

Speaker 2:

I've been asked this a bunch of times and my thought process was being that I am coming from the perspective of someone with autoimmune disease who has battled and overcome autoimmune disease, which is, of course, a chronic illness. It's not just about healing, because with a chronic illness, chronic means reoccurring. So with things like autoimmune disease, you may have a flare and you may heal from that flare, but healing isn't necessarily the desired outcome. It's really the staying healed part that we want, because it's one thing to have a flare, heal from that flare and then, a few months down the road, or even a couple of years down the road, have another flare and just have it be something that you're just continuously having to battle and having to be on the lookout for. It's quite another thing to get to a point where you are staying healed, where you don't have to constantly be dealing with flares, you don't have to constantly be worried about dealing with flares and getting to the point where you can really believe that you not only have healed but that you are staying healed.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's really interesting because I feel like I've seen that progression in your life of not just treating symptoms and hoping for a period of time that you don't experience them, to now you're walking in health and its body, mind and spirit and you see it, it embodies every domain and every dimension of who you are and I think that that's been a really interesting thing for me to watch that journey and that progress towards being healed, staying healed and having it kind of encompass you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you've had a front row seat for sure. In thinking of it as okay, what sets me apart? A lot of people talk about healing, not as many people talk about staying healed, so that's hence the name of why I thought, okay, this is what I'm all about, so let's just go ahead and put it in the name.

Speaker 1:

Love it. It's a great name and it's even more fun to watch you live it out All right, so let's switch gears now. You are always reading or listening to something health related. There's always something that you're consuming. I'd love to know what you'd recommend to others, that either something you've read or something that you listen to.

Speaker 2:

Yes, a couple of books that I've recently read come right to mind, and one of them was recommended to me, so I will pay it forward by recommending it to the audience. It is called the Well-Lived Life a 102 year old doctor's six secrets to health and happiness at every age. So obviously that's very eye catching that the author is a 102 year old doctor. This was written last year, so she's actually 103 now and her name is Gladys McGary. In reading the book, I was just blown away. I was like, did she really write this? And so I looked up a bunch of videos and I'm like, yeah, she totally did, because she is sharp as a tack. She looks at least 20 years younger, and even if she was 20 years younger she would still be incredibly impressive. So to know that she is now 103 is just mind blowing.

Speaker 2:

Reading this book, it was just lovely. It was just filled with such positive energy and it felt like I was like sitting down with a sage which she surely is and it was just an experience of just letting her many, many, many years of life experience, the wisdom that she's gained just kind of wash over me. So it was really beautiful stuff. She's all about that mindset. She's very big on the mind body connection and she keeps coming back to love as the center of healing, particularly with holistic healing, and she explains all of this not in a cheesy way but in a really practical sense. That really left me pondering a lot of things. So I definitely recommend this book. It's very just, well-rounded and comprehensive and very encouraging, and it was light. Even though she talked about some heavy stuff, it felt very light and I read it very quickly.

Speaker 1:

Wow, that sounds really fantastic, when I really love that concept of love, kind of being an anchor anytime you can hear from a centenarian that's clearly doing some amazing things and willing to share. I'm sure that that was a really empowering and uplifting read.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I forgot to mention she is known as the mother of holistic medicine, which is pretty cool too, and I always look for folks who have lived to be centenarians or just have lived to a very old age. Those are the people that I want to be hearing from. I want to hear what they've done, how they've lived their lives. I want to hear all of the wisdom that they've gained in their many decades of life and experiences, and I want to hear what sets them apart. What have they done, maybe differently, to get them to this point, especially when they're just so incredibly clearly cognitively healthy? Like Dr MacGarria's, I'm also fascinated by the blue zones that Dan Butner writes about, and there's also a documentary out on the blue zones now, too.

Speaker 2:

And Dan Butner studied the locations in the world that are home to the world's oldest people, places where you find an exceptional amount of centenarians, and that's Sardinia, italy, okinawa, japan, nikoia, costa Rica, ikaria, greece and Loma Linda. California is the one in the US. Butner has studied the lifestyle commonalities among these people in these areas and, not surprisingly, they include healthier diets. They're mostly plant-based cultures. Movement is part of their daily lives, lots of walking. Another standout is their social life Community is integral to all of these, and I find that extra intriguing, as that's something that seems to be declining a bit more these days, in the non-blue zones for sure.

Speaker 2:

Another big thing is that they have a sense of purpose, even in their older years. It's really interesting stuff, and Dr MacGarry essentially touches on all of the things that Dan Butner found in the blue zones, and her big thing is that last one that I mentioned, purpose, which she calls your juice, which is really, really cute, and she writes about it in a really fun way. So anyway, I'm really intrigued by centenarians. Not that living forever or even to such an old age is necessarily the goal, but for me, living in a way that not only keeps me physically healthy but mentally sharp and able to enjoy life and to still contribute greatly to the world in those later years, I think is a really nice goal. And with Dr MacGarry she, at 103, has a 10-year plan, which I think is amazing.

Speaker 1:

No, that sounds awesome, and I also love the fountain of youth being purpose that your juice is critical to living a long and fulfilling life and staving off all the things that you see can come against that. That's wonderful. And speaking of there's a personal connection that you had an aunt that lived to over 100 years old.

Speaker 2:

My great aunt, my dad's aunt, aunt Kay, lived to 108. Wow, a great aunt. By marriage, not by blood, so I don't have those genes, unfortunately, aunt Kay just in thinking about. Ok, how are the ways that I suspect that she lived so long? Aunt Kay radiated love. She never was able to have kids of her own but she essentially adopted countless nieces and nephews and these are ones who were related to her, and then her great nieces and nephews, but also there were just a plethora of neighborhood kids would run up and visit her and everyone called her Aunt Kay, just everyone called her Aunt Kay. So she was an incredible lady who, just again, like I said, just radiated love and she got so much joy from being around children and just giving so much to others. So that is very telltale and a good way to live if you want to live to 108.

Speaker 1:

No, I remember getting the chance to meet her once before she passed away and I was blown away by, just at her age, the energy that she still had and clearly she yeah, absolutely radiated love and Was pretty remarkable to be able to meet her. Okay, do you have any other books that you want to recommend that you've read recently that have been impactful to you?

Speaker 2:

yes. So we're going from sweet to sassy now on the Total opposite end of the spectrum. My next recommendation I'm going to have to edit the title because this is a clean podcast, but it's called by yourself the bleep in lilies and Other rituals to fix your life, from someone who's been there. So the author is Tara Schuster. Tara Schuster is a comedy writer and that clearly plays a major role in this book. So so obviously that's a very eye-catching title, but it's essentially a beginner's guide to self-care.

Speaker 2:

For those who don't mind Crass humor, clearly it's got a bunch of that. It is hardly an instruction manual on self-care, but instead it is a fun, very light read. That definitely got me to chuckle a bunch. That being said, it will get you thinking about the concept of taking care of Ourselves more, and it provides a lot of examples and some great suggestions for various forms of self-care.

Speaker 2:

And Tara wrote this I believe she was still in her 20s and a single woman. So it's from that perspective for a single woman on the younger side, and it'll be most relatable for ladies who fall into that category. But, as someone who is not in that category, it's certainly applicable to older, non single women as well, and I personally found it very inspirational just to be reminded of little ways to make time for more self-care throughout the day and throughout your week, which is something that, of course, I believe is incredibly important for healing and staying healed. So again, fun, not very serious read, but on a topic that I do think is very serious and that we all need to be taking very seriously. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I do remember you reading this and busting out laughing several times, and it certainly made me curious as to what was so good about it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she's pretty funny. You know, I like to laugh. I like funny stuff, and when I can read about health and laugh at the same time, that's a win-win.

Speaker 1:

So, moving on from books, the other thing that I watch you and see you do quite often is listen to podcasts. Now, you get a lot out of them and I know you really enjoy them. Do you have any podcasts that you would like to recommend?

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, this is not a new recommendation, but I don't know that I've specifically talked about it on the podcast yet. The rich role podcast oh man, he is my favorite. Rich is a vegan and ultra endurance athlete. He's been in recovery and sober for decades now. He's a father and a husband as well and he just is an incredible person. He has such an intuitive mind and has such an eloquence and a way with words that just few others have. His vocabulary is like Unmatched and seriously off the charts. Each episode there's at least one or two vocabulary words that I have to look up that he uses because I'm like I don't know what that word means. And then I look it up and like yep, he used it perfectly and naturally.

Speaker 2:

He is not pretentious in the slightest, he's just a really gifted human being and he's been doing his podcast thing since like the beginning of podcasts, you know, over a decade ago. He's just such a pro, has the most incredible conversations with Extraordinary guests. I've been introduced to so many people through him as they were guests on his show and I've read so many transforming books by the guests on his show and he's just a really humble, open and vulnerable guy who gets embarrassed when people talk about the massive impact he really has had on them and in the world, because that's clearly not what drives him. He's been an unofficial mentor and an inspiration for me. In fact, I really think I can credit him for being the source of a Decent chunk of my personal growth over the past however many years that I've been listening to him. So I know I'm gushing and I'm totally fangirling at this point, but I could gush about rich all day long and I really hope to meet him someday. I.

Speaker 1:

Know you've definitely shared with me so many times about the things that you've heard him say and episodes, and he's made such a wonderful impact on you and it's been evident and and I think it's a great, great recommendation he's clearly the kind of person you want to be listening to on a regular basis. Yeah, are there any recent episodes of his show that stand out to you that you want to tell people about?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean they're all so good, but there is one in particular that he released in January of 2024. He had the author Chip Conley on, and that episode was called midlife is a chrysalis, not a crisis. Chip Conley on why life gets better with age.

Speaker 1:

Wow, that's a good title.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, cuz aging is a topic, as you know, I'm getting more and more Excited about as I move through these early 40s, and in this episode the two of them just did such an amazing job reframing the concept of aging and it was just a really beautiful episode and for me it's really good for the mindset reinforcement, having a mindset that doesn't dread or fear growing older, but truly embraces it. And I know you've struggled with that a little bit more than I have, especially over the past year.

Speaker 1:

I yeah, I mean, I think life definitely caught up with me recently when I finally tore my ACL, which is really the first time I've had any kind of major injury in my life, one that required certainly surgery and slowed me down, and it was just, I think, just a moment where, yeah, you have to come to terms with where you are, who you are and accept that you know you're not in your 20s not that I felt that I was holding on to that too much, but it just was a defining experience and certainly, I think, lends itself back to some of the things that you've talked about in terms of how do you adjust your mindset so that way you can still carry forward, re-center myself and, you know, be the best version of myself where I am today, instead of holding on to anything about where I might have been in years past.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and it was like all things that don't seem good at first. I think it was a really good opportunity for you to have some personal growth in that area, and this actually reminds me I haven't sent you this episode yet to listen to, so I'm going to do that.

Speaker 1:

That sounds great. I look forward to listening to it.

Speaker 2:

Okay, and just one more note on the Rich Roll podcast. At the end of every year he releases what is usually a two-part best of the year episode, so that's a great place to start with him just going back to those end of the year episodes and getting snippets of his many powerful conversations from the year prior. So I recommend it wholeheartedly.

Speaker 1:

In case that wasn't obvious, so, in addition to Rich Roll, what other podcasts do you like that you want other people to consider listening to?

Speaker 2:

All right, just to prove that I'm not all business all the time in regards to only consuming health-related media. I also love this American life, which has also been around forever. It's a public radio program podcast hosted by the great Ira Glass, and it is storytelling at its best A lot of current events, news-related stories, and there's a different theme every week. You'll laugh, you'll cry. It's all over the place. And Pod meets world. I make no effort to hide my deep and undying love for 90s pop culture and last year I started getting into Pod meets world with Danielle Fischel, will Friedle and Ryder Strong, otherwise known as Topanga Eric and Sean from the iconic TGIF sitcom Boy Meets World man. Do I love it? In fact, I've kind of gotten behind on all of my other podcasts listening because Pod meets world releases multiple episodes per week, so I'm still not even caught up to their current episode. It's just for me, it's just nostalgia at its best, and it's for 90s nostalgia. It's just the more of the merrier for me.

Speaker 1:

It's fun watching you listen to that in the mornings, because I think it helps you start your day off well.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and just like with Tara Schuster's book, you often hear me laughing out loud.

Speaker 1:

She often does Shifting gears. You've definitely made some good new recipes lately and I'm wondering if you wanted to share any of those with your audience.

Speaker 2:

Yes, anytime I make a super health promoting new recipe that you, I and our teenager enjoy, it is a huge win. So I want to share the brain building totally possible. Burgers by team Shersi. This is SHERZAI, and the Shersi's are a husband and wife neurologist team, and their focus is on lifestyle changes for long term brain health and prevention of Alzheimer's and dementia. They teach at Loma Linda University, which is one of the blue zones shout out blue zones and so they came up with this awesome veggie burger that I made a couple weeks ago, and all of us loved them. It's definitely a little bit labor intensive, but the burger is chock full of nutrients, with ingredients like mushrooms, walnuts, beets, beans and a bunch of spices, and so I made a few minor adjustments to the recipe for our personal preference, but it would be fine as is too, I'm sure and it's a great replacement for the similar kind of store bought meatless burgers that are generally not actually the healthiest.

Speaker 1:

That was definitely a great meal. Always when all three of us enjoy a meal, that is reason to cheer.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I have a running list of a rotation of things that are approved by all of us. Let's just say that. But I've also learned to not make a new recipe too frequently, because then I run the risk of it being rejected if I overdo it. So it's all a dance, it's all a balance, right? We'll put the link for the brain building totally possible burgers in the show notes so that you can see it and try to make it as well. And thank you to Team Shersai for coming up with that awesome recipe and releasing it to all of us. And then another one.

Speaker 2:

I want to mention that I just made for Valentine's Day Danielle Walker, who's huge out there in the autoimmune cooking world Danielle Walker's chocolate, strawberry frozen yogurt bites. So this was an interesting recipe. She put it on her Instagram page and so, yeah, danielle is just a pro and such a veteran and she's always been very close to my heart because she has battled all-certificolytus too, and our stories are actually pretty similar in a lot of ways. She's released a bunch of cookbooks that are filled with health-promoting recipes and are food sensitivity friendly, and everything is gluten-free, and most of her recipes are dairy-free too, and she just has the best recipes. So for Valentine's Day, when she posted this on Instagram I was like ooh, that looks good. And she called it her take on the trending chocolate strawberry frozen yogurt bites. I didn't know that they were trending, but I'm usually a step or two behind on what's trending on Instagram, so that didn't surprise me, but I was like that looks fun.

Speaker 2:

So I decided to make it as just a fun little Valentine's thing and they were tasty, little dairy-free treats, great ingredients and, again, we all loved them. Now I will add that I'm not always the best at crafting beautiful, instagram-worthy final products with new recipes, and this was one of those times where my batch kind of turned out looking like something you'd see on Nailed it. Remember that show, the Baking Fails show. For some reason, the first couple went okay, but then the more I did the chocolate dipping it just it didn't go so well. So they looked a little rough, but they tasted really delicious.

Speaker 1:

They certainly tasted a lot better than at the end they were looking, but I'm so glad you made them. It was a wonderful Valentine's Day treat.

Speaker 2:

Let's just say I'm no Daniel Walker okay, but I'm gonna. I'm drinking a tri again and hopefully it'll go better visually speaking. So if you want to try these as well, we'll put that recipe or that link to her Instagram post in the show notes as well.

Speaker 1:

Isn't she the one that also developed the barbecue chicken recipe that's been such a hit for so long?

Speaker 2:

Yes, my slow cooker. Well, danielle's slow cooker barbecue chicken recipe I have been making for years and I usually make it when we have company and it is such a hit. Everyone always loves it. So, yeah, definitely check out her cookbooks, and she has a lot of recipes on her website as well.

Speaker 1:

Thank, you All right. How about we talk about health-promoting products? I know you're always trying those out and you seem to come across a lot of really good ones. Are there any that you want to share with the audience?

Speaker 2:

Oh yes, mocktail club mocktails. We discovered these at Whole Foods a while back and then we found them at our regular grocery store too. So these are little canned mocktails and they've been really nice to have on hand. They have clean and simple ingredients, including apple cider vinegar. There's no refined sugar, no artificial colors or flavors, no junk, which, of course, matters greatly. So these are a great replacement for alcohol, and alcohol is something that I've blogged about, but I haven't yet addressed it on this podcast and I'm not going to go into it too deep right now because now's not the time. But there is more and more evidence that alcohol is really not good for us and I'm going to be totally honest in that.

Speaker 2:

I can't say that I never have a drink. I'm not there yet, but I rarely drink now, and you don't drink at all and you haven't for many years. So for both of us, these little canned mocktails have been really nice and kind of a fun way for us to still feel like we're having a special little drink, just without the alcohol. We usually open a can like cocktail hour, before dinner, maybe while I'm cooking, we'll open a can and we've been splitting it between the two of us and I think my favorite flavor is the Capri Spritz. That's true of you too, right?

Speaker 1:

Yes, I think that one is my favorite as well.

Speaker 2:

Now I do have to say, just like with food, it's always better to make your own mocktails from fresh ingredients, and I definitely do that sometimes too. When you make it yourself, you can use all organic ingredients, and these mocktails use some organic ingredients, but I don't believe they're completely organic. So I know there is a brand or two out there that are certified organic, but I can't speak to those yet because I haven't tried them. But I'm keeping my eyes out. So when you asked for recommendations on health promoting products, I wanted to recommend these mocktail club mocktails now, because I really believe, even if they aren't perfect, if they will help you cut down on alcohol, then that is a worthy trade and a health promoting trade as well, for sure. All that being said, one of my near future goals is to start playing around with making my own mocktails at home more, which could be fun, and you can get in on that with me. We can see what we can come up with.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that sounds really fun.

Speaker 2:

Okay, and because I haven't said it yet, I am not getting paid for any of these recommendations that I'm making today. I forgot to mention that earlier. I don't have any prior arrangements or partnerships with any of these people or products that I'm mentioning today. I just love to share with everyone what I found to be a good and healthy thing. That being said, if any of them should want to pay me for the recommendations, that's cool. I have Venmo, or maybe, like one of the Danielle's that I've mentioned today, danielle Walker or Danielle Fishel from Podmeets World, we could get together and go have a mocktail club mocktail together. Wow, that would seriously be like. If that were to happen, I'd just have peaked. Nice, I'm kidding. I'm kidding, of course, but seriously, danielle's call me.

Speaker 1:

This has been a lot of fun sharing with you and I know we've covered a lot of ground. Is there anything else that you've come across recently that you want to leave as a parting thought for the audience?

Speaker 2:

Yes, there is one more thing that I want to mention before we wrap up today. The other day there was a Washington Post article on ultra-processed foods, and whenever there is a health-related article that catches my eye as being something that's really health-promoting, I get really excited, and I have to say the Washington Post has had a bunch of these recently. So good job, washington Post. This article was published on February 29th, leap Day, and it was called Ultra Process Foods Linked to 32 Health Problems what to Know. The author is Rachel Panett I hope I'm saying that right, panett Panay, perhaps. The article talks about comprehensive research results that were just published in the British Medical Journal. That involved almost 10 million people and the research results found quote a direct association between eating too many ultra-processed foods those breads, cereal, snacks and frozen meals that have been industrially manufactured with flavors and additives to make them more palatable and more than 30 health conditions, including heart disease, anxiety and early death. End quote.

Speaker 2:

So there's nothing in the article that truly shocked me and probably wouldn't shock most people, but I really appreciate this article for several reasons. One, because it specifically mentions how this research found not just physical effects like obesity, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, cancer and chronic diseases, but it also includes the findings on mental health too. Relative effects like anxiety and depression are mentioned and the mental health effects of highly-and-ultra-processed foods. That is something that I don't think is discussed nearly enough. The physical effects, truthfully, aren't discussed enough, of course, either, but that's all the more true for the mental health effects. So I was really glad to see that included and the whole article is worth reading and we'll link to this in the show notes as well, because it really reinforces how destructive a regular intake of these foods can be. So one more quote I'll just share from the article, but I do encourage you to read the whole thing. The article says quote they found convincing evidence that high-ultra-processed food intake was associated with about a 50% increase risk of cardiovascular disease-related death and a 48-53% higher risk of anxiety and common mental disorders. End quote. So those two stats jumped out at me the most, because we're talking about massively increasing your risk for some pretty serious stuff.

Speaker 2:

I do want to add that the article mentions that in the research that the group used to come up with these findings quote none of them was funded by companies making ultra-processed food. End quote. No surprise there, all right, so I think we did it. I think we're done for today.

Speaker 2:

I do want to mention, before we go, that on my website, which is kellybhainycom, I have an entire resources page, and there you can find a variety of other books, podcasts, people to follow and other things, and these are all resources that I have personally found real value in throughout my healing journey, and so again I want to pay it forward by recommending these great health-promoting resources to others who I believe can find value in it as well. So again, that is kellybhainycom. I also want to mention that right now, my website is pretty basic and built around the blog that I formally gave a lot more attention to before shifting to the podcast, and that is going to change very soon. I'm working with an awesome creative team who is putting together a beautiful new, much more comprehensive website that I truly hope can bring a whole lot of value to everyone, and we're looking for that to launch very soon, sometime next month, which will be April 2024.

Speaker 1:

I'm really excited for your new website. I am sure it's going to look so nice.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, super excited, so coming soon. Stay tuned, okay, brian, thank you for being my co-host today. I hope you had some fun.

Speaker 1:

I sure did. Thanks for letting me come on.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much for joining us today. This was a fun episode and I hope you really enjoyed listening to it. If you have found value in this podcast, I would so greatly appreciate it If you would take a second to subscribe, download rate and review and, of course, please share it with anyone who you think would find value in it as well. I am truly honored to walk alongside of you as we heal and stay healed together.