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E14 Surrender, but Don't Give Yourself Away

February 11, 2024 Jim B Episode 14
E14 Surrender, but Don't Give Yourself Away
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E14 Surrender, but Don't Give Yourself Away
Feb 11, 2024 Episode 14
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When two worlds collide, you get an episode that's as surprising as it is enthralling. My run-in with John Harbaugh could have been just another star-struck fan moment, but I got the Baltimore Ravens' head coach to reveal his favorite music. 

Then, there's David Lowery's acoustic session where the strum of his guitar felt like a private conversation, echoing the sentimentality and storytelling of Camper van Beethoven and Cracker classics.

The haunting memory of "The Day the Music Died" reminds us of the ever-present echoes of those we lost in Buddy Holly's fateful 1959 plane crash. And then there's "American Pie," a tune that feels like a collective memory, etched into our consciousness with its layered references and McLean's resonant lyrics, all wrapped up in an album cover that's as iconic as the song itself.

It's the 45th Anniversary of Cheap Trick at Budokan. We revisit the record that put the band on the map in America. From "Ain't That a Shame to "I Want You to Want Me" to "Surrender", this ranks as one of my favorite live albums.

This episode is no stranger to the legends of live recordings, as we revisit the high-octane performances that immortalized bands like The Kinks and Kiss, not to mention the electric atmosphere Peter Frampton created with his live shows. Plug in for an episode that hits all the right notes and unpacks the intricacies of the music that moves us.

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When two worlds collide, you get an episode that's as surprising as it is enthralling. My run-in with John Harbaugh could have been just another star-struck fan moment, but I got the Baltimore Ravens' head coach to reveal his favorite music. 

Then, there's David Lowery's acoustic session where the strum of his guitar felt like a private conversation, echoing the sentimentality and storytelling of Camper van Beethoven and Cracker classics.

The haunting memory of "The Day the Music Died" reminds us of the ever-present echoes of those we lost in Buddy Holly's fateful 1959 plane crash. And then there's "American Pie," a tune that feels like a collective memory, etched into our consciousness with its layered references and McLean's resonant lyrics, all wrapped up in an album cover that's as iconic as the song itself.

It's the 45th Anniversary of Cheap Trick at Budokan. We revisit the record that put the band on the map in America. From "Ain't That a Shame to "I Want You to Want Me" to "Surrender", this ranks as one of my favorite live albums.

This episode is no stranger to the legends of live recordings, as we revisit the high-octane performances that immortalized bands like The Kinks and Kiss, not to mention the electric atmosphere Peter Frampton created with his live shows. Plug in for an episode that hits all the right notes and unpacks the intricacies of the music that moves us.

Please Like and Follow our Facebook page Music In My Shoes. 
You can contact us at musicinmyshoes@gmail,com.

Speaker 1:

Yummy lemon. Toast presquevelou, yummy lemon.

Speaker 2:

You've got the feeling and it's out there growing. Hey everybody, this is Jim Boge and you're listening to Music in my Shoes. That was Vic Thrill kicking off episode 14. As always, I'm thrilled to be here with you. Let's learn something new or remember something old.

Speaker 2:

Last weekend I'm at an event and John Harbaugh, the Baltimore Ravens head coach, is there also. He's talking to some people I know and I kind of worked my way into the conversation. Let me tell you this he's an incredibly down to earth, good conversationist. I really enjoyed speaking with him and being part of a conversation. Football was probably the thing we talked about the least. Talked about many different things. Very, very impressed from speaking with him. I know that you meet famous people and a lot of times they might think who they are Not at all. He acted like he was regular Joe. Let me tell you that that's amazing. It really was. It was pretty cool. I did say to him I do a music podcast and wanted to ask him what kind of music he listens to. He says to me I only listen to good music. Everything I listen to is good. It's like he had this perfect quote just set up and ready to go.

Speaker 1:

Did you say, hey, john, music isn't a competition?

Speaker 2:

No, I didn't, because, being a head football coach, I'm sure most of everything in his world is a competition.

Speaker 2:

So I did not say that at all, even though that's what I believe, but I thought it was pretty cool. I did get a picture with him and I took the picture. I was the first person. I kind of broke the ice. You could see people wanted to. They kept kind of getting their phones out waiting for that moment and I said hey, john, can I get a picture with you? He said, sure, so we take a picture when we're done. I said, hey, you know what, for one game next year I will root for the Baltimore Ravens because I'm a New York Jets fan. And he says they never tell you they're a New York Jets fan until after the picture, which I thought was pretty funny, but all in all, real good guy definitely enjoyed meeting him. So that wasn't all that I got to do on that. One day Later on I go to see David Lowry, who is with Camper, van Beethoven and Cracker lead singer, founder of Camper and co-founder of Cracker and he does a solo acoustic performance at a bar brewing company and I thought let me go down, let me see what it's all about.

Speaker 2:

I've seen Cracker before and it was a great show, really really was a great show and it was really different because it was about four o'clock in the afternoon when he came on not the normal time that musicians are playing inside of you know this place and it was all eye level, so there wasn't any sort of stage, it was something where he was standing the same level as you. So as I'm watching him and I had my phone I was recording, you know, some video taking some pictures as he's singing. He's kind of just looking you in the eye and it's very different from the way that you normally would see a show. Where they're up on stage, you're kind of looking up. You don't necessarily catch them, you know, looking in your eyes Not that he was looking in my eyes, but he's just looking around as he's playing and it was pretty cool.

Speaker 2:

And when I went back and watched some of the videos that I shot, seeing like he's looking, it was really cool. It just was a whole different atmosphere than what I'm normally used to. So he played Get Off this. He played Teen Anxed what the World Needs Now You're a Trash Girl Low a bunch of the songs that you think he would play. He also played a couple of songs from Camper Van Beethoven. He did Pictures of Matchstick Men, which was great.

Speaker 1:

Which is, of course a cover.

Speaker 2:

It is a cover, and a good cover it is. He actually does a few covers throughout.

Speaker 1:

He does a great cover of Loser oh really, yes, by Beck, no, and I knew you were going to say that and I still let you go on with it.

Speaker 2:

Thanks, there is a Loser song by Jerry Garcia that the Grateful Dead would play All right, and he does a pretty good cover of that. It's also on the Kerosene Hat album, where many of these songs that I just mentioned are on, but Pictures of Matchstick Men. It was really good the way that he played it. He pulled it off well, just solo acoustically, and then he did a couple of songs that are just some David Lowry solo songs, including one called Disneyland Jail. That's a really good song. And then he has another song where he kind of talks about, you know, knowing what he knows. Now. If he had known it back, then you know, kind of like I guess, when all of us as we get older and we kind of appreciate things a little bit more. So you know, overall it was a really good experience. It was a great time. I enjoyed it. Back in New Year's Day he actually did a live stream from his home and you could watch him. He played for probably about 45 minutes and that's how he only played solo David Lowry songs and a lot of them I was not familiar with. So it was kind of cool watching that. So I enjoyed it I've seen Cracker before and being able to be so close and, you know, listen to his stories kind of in between, a bunch of the songs was really neat.

Speaker 2:

So the day of the music died. Are you familiar with that? Yes, I am All right. So Buddy Holly okay, Buddy Holly on February 3rd 1959 was on an airplane along with the Big Bopper and Richie Valens. So I'm sure a lot of people know who Richie Valens is. He sang La Bamba, but Big Bopper sang the song Chantilly Lace right, which is a good song. He was actually a DJ in Texas, came up with the song and then started traveling around on these little tours. So they were in Iowa and they were going to fly to their next destination and originally, instead of the Big Bopper, Wailing Jennings was supposed to be on the plane, but the Big Bopper was sick, Wailing gave up his seat and, I guess, took the bus or however else that they were getting to their next destination and actually he ended up staying alive because of the fact that he wasn't on that plane. Yeah, so after the takeoff there was poor weather conditions, the plane ended up crashing and lost, you know, three people that were big in music.

Speaker 1:

And a pilot, I'm sure.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I the pilot as well, and.

Speaker 1:

I apologize. Nobody ever talks about the pilot.

Speaker 2:

No, we only talk about the people that were famous, that passed away and the day, the day, the day, the music and the pilot died.

Speaker 2:

There you go. That might sound better. So we keep saying the day the music died. Well, dom McClane came out with an album and had a song, american Pie, that reached number one in January of 1972. Mm-hmm, all right, and it was about the day the music died and about the day that that plane crashed and talking about a bunch of different things that had happened from that time up until you know the time of recording the song. I think a lot of people know that song. It seems to be something that people learn young and never forget. And it comes on and everybody seems to all of a sudden, miraculously and magically know the words.

Speaker 1:

It was my first favorite song as a toddler. Really, yeah, I remember that being my favorite song and it tracks that it was early 72, because I was like two and a half years old and it's one of my earliest memories and I don't know. I liked Pie, I liked the song, it was a good, great song. It really is. It's a really long song too, yes.

Speaker 1:

And I'm sure, as a toddler it was even longer, because everything seems longer when you're young and a five and a half minute song or whatever it is, I mean that could take all day.

Speaker 2:

Well, with a toddler there's no sense of any patience, that's true. So I would think that that could mean that the song felt like it was 12 hours. I'm guessing that. Yeah, I remember singing along with the song and at certain points saying when is this song going to end? I do remember that, but the I believe it's the album cover. It's kind of a picture of Don McLean and then he kind of has his thumb out and I think it's like an American flag painted on.

Speaker 2:

It was definitely a cool album cover. I know we talked about album covers recently, but this is another cool album cover that really fit what the song was about. I think that was pretty cool yeah. So, the day the music there's no pie though involved.

Speaker 1:

you know it was American thumb, but that American thumb just doesn't sound as good, no, it doesn't, and I think it's probably.

Speaker 2:

you know what do they say baseball, apple pie, american pie yeah. No, what is it?

Speaker 1:

Baseball, hot dogs, apple pie and Chevrolet. Right, that was this commercial.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but I think it was something before the commercial, I think it was baseball is Hot dogs and apple pie. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's for all American things, that's all.

Speaker 2:

American Baseball was the you know the American pastime back in the day apple pie that was. You know I'm going to bake an apple pie. That was the main big thing back in the day.

Speaker 1:

Hitchhiking was a big thing back then in the early 70s, so I think it was kind of an homage to that, like hey, the American thing for young people is hitchhiking.

Speaker 2:

And that-.

Speaker 1:

Don't do it, guys, if anybody's listening. Don't hitchhike, it's dangerous. Those days are over.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yeah, definitely don't do that. That's our public service announcement for this episode of Music in my Shoes Now you know. So, jimmy Mojo Nixon. I don't know if you're familiar with him, but Mojo Nixon passed away February 7th 2024. He sang the 1987 song Elvis is Everywhere.

Speaker 1:

Yep.

Speaker 2:

So it got enough radio rotation and plays on MTV that I remember this song. There's nothing, you know, it's a novelty song, nothing special about it. Elvis is Everywhere and he's here and he's there and goes through everything. But I think more the reason who I know that Mojo Nixon is is that the band the Dead Milkmen referenced him in the 1988 song a year later, punk Rock Girl. Yeah, okay, and it's about going to a record store and they asked from Mojo Nixon. They said he don't work here. What's the next line?

Speaker 1:

If you ain't got Mojo Nixon, then your store could use some fixing.

Speaker 2:

There you go, and that, I think, is how probably most people that know Mojo Nixon know him. Because of who was he? Elvis is Everywhere, mojo Nixon is Everywhere. And you know what? The probably the biggest reason that I remember him is the Dead Milkmen and unfortunately he died on an outlaw country music cruise. But good for him going out doing what he loved. Oh, you know what? You know what time it is Jimmy Music in my shoes mail bag.

Speaker 2:

Yes, you are right, jimmy, it is time for Music in my Shoes Mail Bag, where you have the opportunity to reach out to us, and you can either email us, reach us on Facebook and let us know what you thought of a previous episode, or let us know of something that you're interested in hearing us speak about. So I'm going to start off with Tom out of Sweetwater, texas. All right. Growing up in the 80s, not a big fan of Chick-fil-X. Today, valley Girl is in my top five films of that genre. Good times, okay, cool, yeah, I like that. That's very compartmentalized.

Speaker 1:

It's like, okay, I thought he was going to say top five of all time, but it's top five of Chick-fil-X, right.

Speaker 2:

Right, which he was not a big fan of in the 80s. Okay, but we all change and we start to appreciate things a little bit more, as we talked about earlier. Yes, we do Our Daniel. No location. At one time this thread would gag me with a spoon, but I've mellowed out when it comes to the Valley Girl. That's great. A little thought went into this one. All right, oh, I'm so sure. No way. Yes, dan, santa Clara California. Santa Clara California, my most watched movie of all time, valley Girl. And then says is this movie in 3D? No, but your face is Michael. Another no location. I miss the replacements so much. All right, that's it. That's it on that one. All right, but there's more, because Paul in Wisconsin don't tell a soul never left my headphones for an entire year.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's commitment right there.

Speaker 2:

I can understand that, definitely understand that. And then from Vinnie on Long Island, that's in New York, I liked the sticky fingers backstory. I didn't realize it was damaging the records.

Speaker 1:

So we talked about that.

Speaker 2:

So these are some comments from the last couple of episodes the sticky fingers. In case you missed the last episode, we talked about the actual zipper that was on the album by the Rolling Stones and it kind of made it. So the albums weren't laying flat and in return the vinyls were starting to become a little damaged. So you can reach us at Music In my Shoes at gmailcom or like and follow us on the Music In my Shoes Facebook page, or you can do both, feel free. Music In my Shoes Mailbag. Last episode we spoke about Elvis Costello's song Radio Radio and Jimmy seeing him live recently. Well, in February 1989, he released the single Veronica, a song about a woman losing her memory. It featured Paul McCartney on bass, making it all the way to number 19 on the Billboard Top 100 singles charts. Jimmy, you remember that song, veronica, oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

I really, really like that. I think it's a great pop song. I knew it's one of those songs. I actually knew Paul McCartney was on when it came out. We've talked before in past episodes and not always knowing that there was a guest musician or this was happening. But I actually knew that Paul was on that song and I would swear oh yeah, he's got his Beatles bass. I can hear it. Without a doubt, this song is made because of him playing the bass. That is incorrect. All right, it's a really good song. It really is. And Elvis Costello was kind of singing a little bit about his grandmother who had Alzheimer's and was able to kind of put into words kind of how he felt. If you don't know that song, please go listen to it. However, you stream music. Really really good song.

Speaker 1:

Now I heard Paul talking about working with Elvis one time and he was not that flattering toward Elvis Costello. He was kind of like, yeah, I would make a suggestion in the studio and Elvis would be like, oh no, we don't want to do that.

Speaker 2:

And so yeah, but if you're Paul McCartney, you're probably used to people just yes-ing you to death. That's true, and I'm not trying to be mean, or?

Speaker 1:

No, no, no.

Speaker 2:

I think that if Paul has the idea, it's got to be good, because he was a Beatle. I know that they worked together on the Flowers and the Dirt album, which we'll cover later in the year on Music in my Shoes, and Elvis Costello co-wrote a few of the songs that are on that album and there's actually on the super deluxe edition of Flowers and the Dirt. There's a demo of Elvis and Paul doing the song my Brave Face, kind of like an acoustic version of it, in my opinion absolutely blows away the song that came out. Yeah, that happens a lot, right, you know Elvis, his voice is a little bit louder than what you hear when the actual song comes out. You don't really hear Elvis at all. You hear Paul McCartney, but them together, their voices together, sounds so good. It's almost like kind of how Paul when he was singing with John Lennon, how their voices just went well. So I'm not surprised, you know that maybe Paul would feel that way. But I'm not surprised also that Elvis Costello wouldn't put through what his thoughts are and what he thinks something should be. That's kind of how he comes off when I've seen him in interviews or read about him.

Speaker 2:

But when we talk about Flowers and the Dirt. That's a good one. That really truly is Cheap trick, live at Budakon, okay, february 1979. It's my real introduction to Cheap Trick and I think it's many people's real introduction to Cheap Trick and it's in my top 10 live albums of all time. I'm willing to say it's probably in my top five favorite of all time live albums. And side two of the album I will put up against any album at any time, whether it's live or studio. Side two is fantastic.

Speaker 1:

What's on side two?

Speaker 2:

Well, I'll tell you, it's absolutely killer because it's opening with a cover of Fats Domino's Ain't.

Speaker 1:

That a Shame yeah.

Speaker 2:

And so let me ask you this, jimmy, because I know that you're a musician when they start the drumming, is that considered like a drum solo, or is that not considered? I know, you know, to me a lot of what you hear is when you see drummers do drum solos and he's starting off and he's like do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Do you know like all this stuff, before the music comes in, I think it's I used to sit there at the table trying to beat the whole thing out and take my foot, and you know try and get in, and if I didn't get it then I'd be like, oh God, I got to play the song again.

Speaker 2:

Go through this.

Speaker 1:

It's like a drum intro. You know it's not necessarily a drum solo. Right but yeah, I mean, he's only one player and it's technically a solo right.

Speaker 2:

Well, he was solo and it was good. And then Bunny.

Speaker 1:

Carlos.

Speaker 2:

Bunny Carlos. And then you know the guitar kind of comes in and they just kind of like just build up, you know it's chords, and then he kind of goes into the you know again.

Speaker 2:

don't want to do anything where I get in trouble, but you know it's a really good song. Now I liked Ain't that a Shame? By Fats Domino. Okay, I thought that was a really good song, and then to have Cheap Trick cover it and make this rocked out, tricked out version of it was just really, really awesome. So that's followed up by a song that we all know.

Speaker 1:

I want you to want me.

Speaker 2:

Exactly.

Speaker 1:

I want you to want me. Have you gone back and listened to the studio recording of that?

Speaker 2:

lately yes.

Speaker 1:

It is so wimpy sounding compared to the BudaCon version.

Speaker 2:

Oh, definitely.

Speaker 1:

It's like a children's song.

Speaker 2:

It is. That's the reason it's not popular.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. And then this came out and you're like oh, cheap Trick's a rock band. Okay, I get it now.

Speaker 2:

I think that if you look at it, Cheap Trick is much better live than what they put out on their studio albums. There's a ton of bands that are like that and I think it's why Cheap Trick was not popular in America. They were popular over in Japan. They went over. They record this album. They made it really for the Japanese. It got released for Japan in 1978 and it started to do well and then they said, hey, we can make some money if we release it on record in America. And they do, not realizing what it was going to do for them. It made them who they are. It did.

Speaker 1:

yeah, it showed the world who they are. Yeah, it showed America who they are.

Speaker 2:

It definitely did, and that side, too, definitely was a big part of it. So you have, I want you to want me after. Ain't that a Shame? X Comes Surrender the Song Good Night and then Clock Strikes 10. All fantastic songs, and I would listen to that record just straight through. There was no. Let me just stop. Let me pick the needle up, Let me just listen to this, because it was just nonstop rock and roll.

Speaker 2:

So last time I saw Cheap Trick was October of 2019, which was just about five years ago, and was here in Atlanta, and they opened up for ZZ Top, who was playing on their 50th anniversary tour and, I believe, the last tour with their bassist before he had passed away. So Robin's vocals were still good All these years later. I was like, how can his voice still sound this good? You know, because his voice is kind of on the higher end of singing. You know a lot of men struggle with that, but you know it really still sounded good after all these years.

Speaker 2:

They played five songs at the show I went to that were from Budakon and it was really cool. Now Bunny Carlos wasn't there. He, you know he doesn't play with the band any longer. I think his son at one time played. I don't know if his son is still doing it, so don't quote me on that, but I know his son did at one time, but still had Rick Nielsen the guitarist, and still had Tom Peterson the bass player, and they are a great, great band. If you have not seen them, definitely get yourselves out there sometime and try and view whatever show that they may be part of.

Speaker 1:

We should really make a big deal out about Tom Peterson, because everybody knows Robin Zander and Rick Nielsen, and then, of course, bunny Carlos, because he's got such a cool sounding name, but nobody really knows the bass player's name.

Speaker 2:

No, and you know he was kind of different because he kind of dressed nice if you would see him when he performed and it just wasn't recent. I mean, if you look back through the years, he always wanted to be presentable and play and you know he's a big part of who Cheap Trick is, without a doubt. So I'm listening to the album last night, kind of going through it, you know, getting ready to record today, and my youngest daughter starts singing along with I want you to want me and surrender. And my middle daughter now she's videoing my youngest daughter doing this. And that's just good times, the fact that something that you love. And here they are and they're singing along and playing along and enjoying it. There's nothing better than that. So another one of these records that I would play air guitar, bass and drums, singing my imaginary microphone.

Speaker 2:

When I was a child, trying to figure out, like you know, how would these chords go, when I had no idea. I had no idea what to do with my left hand, you know making, you know G or you know C or whatever it might be. Yeah, but really with the right hand trying to get what I thought was the movements to make the chords. You were practicing air guitar. I was practicing, I was practicing at all and I think at one point I thought I was Robin Xander while I was singing. You know, when you're younger, your voice is definitely a lot higher.

Speaker 1:

You can hit the high notes right. You can hit the high notes and everything.

Speaker 2:

So your mommy's all right, your daddy's all right. They just seem a little weird.

Speaker 1:

I was going to ask you, since we talked about cheap trick at Budakon. You said it's one of your top five albums. Let's go back and forth best live albums of all time. All right, I'll give you this one Ramones. It's alive, it's the best. It's kind of the best Ramones album. I mean, the first three albums are definitely amazing, but it's alive was after the first three albums. They played on New Year's Eve in England and it was just them that they're absolute prime. Live sounded amazing, simple, I love it.

Speaker 2:

So what year was that from Jimmy?

Speaker 1:

That was New Year's Eve 1977, going into 1978.

Speaker 2:

Oh, so it is definitely a good time for them. Yeah, so I'm more familiar with their live stuff that they did on the Rock and Roll High School movie and seeing them there, I don't know a whole lot about that particular live album. I'm going to be honest, that's one thing.

Speaker 1:

Check out something.

Speaker 2:

I'm not going to even pretend, to try and say that I know it.

Speaker 1:

So I'm definitely something new.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I'm learning something new today. I like it. I'm not remembering something old, I'm learning something new. All right, so what else? You got the Kinks one for the road. Yeah, that album. It made me like a lot of the kink songs from the 60s, that they sounded like they were from the 60s but here, when they released this album that I believe was recorded a lot in 1979, came out in 1980. It was them now like an arena rock band. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Playing like Victoria. Yes, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And those versions are my favorite versions of the song. You know where have all the good times gone? You really got me all day and all the night, just really really good, good album. And the first time I heard it I knew it was in my top five live albums of all time and it hasn't changed. And that was almost 44 years ago.

Speaker 1:

Another top album of mine Kiss Alive 2. That record defined Kiss For every kid that was around in the 70s. You heard that record. You knew exactly what it was like to go to a Kiss concert and you desperately wanted to go to one.

Speaker 2:

So I'm glad we're doing this, jimmy and ladies and gentlemen, we're doing this. We didn't talk about this. This is just really off the cuff. No idea what Jimmy's going to say. He has no idea what I'm going to say. I'm not a Kiss fan. That goes to show you that the show is really about. You know what we think and what's important to us. So talk about it, because I have nothing to add to it whatsoever.

Speaker 1:

Well, you know, I found out recently that it was all pretty much recorded after the fact. I mean it was based on live recordings but then they'd go back and overdub the vocals and fixed guitar stuff but they had plenty of crowd sound that they would pump up. So you just it just sounded better than their studio records. Studio records, at least Kisses back in the 70s were really clinical sounding. Everything was recorded in these really dead studios and it just sounded small and you could really hear the arena and the crowd and the you know size of a Kiss concert on Kiss Alive 2.

Speaker 2:

So were you a big Kiss fan.

Speaker 1:

I was as yeah, as a young kid like that. You know, I performed a Kiss concert with my friends for our neighborhood when we were like 10 and 11 years old. And we had you know pre-recorded music. We made our own guitars and like put smoke bombs in them and my mom made the ace frilly outfit for me and everything. It was fun.

Speaker 2:

Definitely sounds fun. I know that friend of the show, Chris Cassidy, every Halloween sends me a picture of when him and some other friends dressed up as Kiss and they had the whole makeup on. You know, I don't know 12, 13 years old or so, but every Halloween he does send me that picture as a reminder of it and they look good. I mean, they had the makeup all done and they look like you know the four people from the band Kiss.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Still Life, Rolling Stones.

Speaker 1:

All right, that's one I don't know.

Speaker 2:

So Still Life was recorded on the 1981 tour here in America and they released it probably, you know, I'd say in early 1982. It's short, it's not very long and a lot of people say that it was really put out just to grab money, but it's actually a really good album. I really enjoy listening to it and to me it stands the test of time. It does a great version of Time is on my Side, which was on MTV nonstop when the album came out, and they kind of took scenes from current Rolling Stones of 1981, going back to when the Rolling Stones first started singing Time is on my Side and putting it all together. And it was, you know, like a back and forth montage of old and new.

Speaker 1:

Was that around the time of emotional rescue?

Speaker 2:

Yes, so emotional rescue had come out in 1980 and then Tattoo U came out in 1981. So they were touring for Tattoo U and that's where this album came out. So the Rolling Stones actually in 82 they played in Europe. And when they played in Europe in 82 they actually covered Big Boppers, chantilly Lace, oh cool. So it's kind of funny that we talked about that earlier in the episode and it kind of ties in with the Rolling Stones. What do you got for me next?

Speaker 1:

I'm going to go slightly off the board from my previous ones and I'm going with. Frampton Comes Alive.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we're together. What an incredible album.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know, and again, it was just so much better. It just gave you an idea of who Peter Frampton was, and it's such a great sounding record. It just puts you right there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it really is. The technology that they used to record that album seemed to be just so much different than what everybody else was doing at the time and you really felt like Peter Frampton was, you know if you were listening to in your bedroom or in the car or wherever you were, you felt like he was there. You really did.

Speaker 1:

And it was before music video, so you could kind of close your eyes and you'd hear the crowd swelling at certain times and you're thinking, oh, is there something going on on stage that you know you're trying to just put yourself there? It's really fun.

Speaker 2:

And the song Do you Feel Like we Do? Yeah, I mean was that probably the Talking Guitar. Yes, the Talking Guitar, it was just unbelievable. And that was that about, I think maybe 13 minutes that song. But man, that was a song that I enjoyed, that it kept going on and on and on, right, you know, it just was a great song, anything else. You got there, jimmy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I gotta say you two live under a blood red sky. That for me was so important because I was in like the ninth or tenth grade and yeah, that was when I really started liking you two because I'd heard I had friends that had October and boy and war. And then that record, just it was an EP, so it really only had eight songs on it or something, but again really great sounding record at Red Rocks.

Speaker 2:

And so it's only a couple of songs from Red Rocks. Everybody thinks it's from Red Rocks. Half of it was recorded over in Europe, so that is something that I thought. It wasn't until a few years ago that I realized that it wasn't all.

Speaker 1:

Well, in Gloria, the first song on the record, he says, hey, this is Red Rocks. And then he never comes in. At another point says, hey, we're not in Red Rocks anymore, we're in Europe. So you know, it's understandable that everybody thinks he's still in Red Rocks.

Speaker 2:

That makes sense to me that definitely does. And that came out, I want to say the fall of 1983. And they were still playing songs. You know, roughly 40 years ago. If you're listening to the radio you're hearing songs from Red Rocks. Now one of the things is that when they do the song Electric Co you familiar with that song? Yeah, when they play it they would sing in a certain way where they would do a little snippet of Sending the Clowns. You remember that?

Speaker 1:

song oh, that's right yeah.

Speaker 2:

They released the album but they didn't get the licensing rights and they got sued and they ended up having to pay, I think, about 50 grand to settle the lawsuit out and then all future releases of Under a Blood Red Sky. They had to take that out in. America.

Speaker 1:

They also had a little snippet from West Side Story in there right before he did Send in the Clowns. I think they took that out. America, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I think they took it out before they got sued for that also. Well, that's it for episode 14 of Music in my Shoes. I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of Arcade 160 Studios located here in Atlanta, georgia, and a big thrill for our podcast music. This is Jim Boge, and I hope you learned something new or remembered something old. We'll meet again on our next episode. Until then, keep the music playing.

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