Music In My Shoes

E59 A Baker's Dozen - Favorites of 2024

Episode 59

Ever wondered how the term "baker's dozen" came to be, or what it feels like to walk in the shoes of a musician? Join us as we wrap up 2024 with a delightful mix of nostalgia and musical storytelling. We journey through our top episodes of the year, opting for a unique baker's dozen selection. Revisit unforgettable moments as we look back on a fun year of the show.

We'll also touch on humorous misinterpretations, engaging interviews with musical legends like Kevn Kinney from Drivin N Cryin, Mitch Easter, Iain Slater and George Cheyne from APB, Ted Ansani from Material Issue, and "My Sharona" and thematic episodes inspired by iconic films and TV shows. As we look back on cherished conversations and impactful stories, we also explore our favorite albums of 2024. The Libertines' "All Quiet on the Eastern Esplanade" emerges as a standout highlight.

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Speaker 1:

He's got the feeling in his toe-toe.

Speaker 2:

He's got the feeling and it's out there growing. Hey everybody, this is Jim Boge, and you're listening to Music In my Shoes. That was Vic Thrill kicking off episode 59. As always, I'm thrilled to be here with you. Let's learn something new or remember something old, jimmy. It's hard to believe that this is our 51st episode in 2024 and our last episode of the year. Time just flies. I just can't believe that it's been this quick. Yeah, I want to look back at the most listened to episodes this year, and some of our favorites also, and the top 10 of 2024. Well, you know what? Let's make it a baker's dozen instead, jimmy. You know why it's called a baker's dozen.

Speaker 1:

I kind of do yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, why don't you let us know, Jimmy? You know why it's called a baker's dozen.

Speaker 1:

I kind of do. Yeah Well, why don't you let us know? So what I heard is that they used to mandate that a roll or a loaf of bread had to be a certain weight, and so you could make them a little bit bigger. But then you'd waste a little bit of money, and so people would try to make them as close to the right weight as they were supposed to be. But then if somebody bought a dozen of them and they were all just a tiny bit short, then there wouldn't be enough and you would get a fine if you got caught, you know, by the police or whatever, selling bread that was too small. So they throw in an extra one just to make sure it's over.

Speaker 2:

Yes, they had the bread police. A fine was the least of it. You could get a beating for not having the right weight, or being jailed. Like what are you in jail for? I was underweight on 12 loaves of bread. Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 1:

That's worse than putting your name on an envelope under a pile of garbage.

Speaker 2:

There you go, I like that. And with that our Baker's Dozen starts with number 13,. Episode 35, a tribute at Hyde Park and Hotel Fiction. Oh yeah, that's a good one. So this year we talked about a tribute concert to Brian Jones. It was on the 4th of July weekend over in England. It was at Hyde Park. Oh yeah, that good one Having a memorial for Brian Jones who just passed away, and you know it was a big thing for them.

Speaker 2:

We talked about the Atlanta Pop Festival Pop that's P-O-P for those of you listening and that was July 4th, the same weekend, here in Atlanta, and all different types of bands that were playing at that show. And you know, like I said on that episode, can you imagine that one weekend, all of these bands playing here in Atlanta, the Rolling Stones over in England that would have been cool to have been around at that time to be able to see that. Yeah, we had Hotel Fiction. Jess and Jade of Hotel Fiction. They joined us on the phone from Athens, georgia, where the band's based out of, and we got to talk to them and I had seen them probably a couple of weeks before they had opened up.

Speaker 2:

For Kevin Kinney of Driving and Crying was definitely impressed. Jimmy. I know you have a connection through your daughter with them and we had them on the show. I thought they did a great job. I mean, they were really had a plan on what they wanted to do and really talked about it. It was a lot of fun talking with them. I definitely think that was not only was that the number 13 of our Baker's Dozen, I think it's one of my favorite of 2024 as well.

Speaker 1:

Well, and I'd say, another one of my favorites is their other episode when they actually came in studio, episode 49.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

That was fantastic and they played for us, which sounded amazing.

Speaker 2:

You know, Jimmy, I got to be honest with you and I know you do the sound. You do everything in here. I just show up, I look pretty and I talk, but you do everything here.

Speaker 1:

You do at least two of those three yeah.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I like that. But the sound of them, getting them to sound the way that they did, you know working with them because you have all kinds of equipment and you have to get the way that they did. You know working with them because you have all kinds of equipment and you have to get the equipment set up to be able to do the sound. It's not like they just play when we're recording it. There's a lot that goes into the whole thing and not that you change it. It's not that they were singing through anything. We didn't change their voices, we didn't do anything but getting everything so that it was the right levels and you did a great job.

Speaker 1:

Thanks, I mean it really came out fantastic.

Speaker 2:

That was a really good episode and their Margo video is now on YouTube live from Music in my Shoes. You can see that on our Facebook page and, again, you can go to YouTube and you can see it there as well. And that is right here from the Arcade 160 studios in Atlanta, georgia. Boom, number 12, episode 14, surrender, but Don't Give Yourself Away. This talks about me seeing David Lowery of Cracker and he was at a local brewery and he played Cracker songs. He played some Camper Van Beethoven songs and he played cracker songs. He played some camper van Beethoven songs and he played some solo songs. We talked about the day the music died, which was Buddy Holly dying in a plane crash February 3rd 1959. And the 40th anniversary of Cheap Trick at Budokan, of Cheap Trick at Budokan, which then led us into our top five live albums, which ended up I think the mailbag was more of a mailbag around that than anything else. People were really into the whole top five and I think it's cool.

Speaker 2:

I think around the episode 14, that is really some of my favorite episodes 14, 15, 16, you're going to hear some of these, just kind of a flow that we started to get into with the show and I really like this episode. I like it a whole lot, yeah. Number 11, episode 16. All we are is dust in the wind, dude. We talk about Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, funny movie, 30th anniversary of Pavements, cut your Hair, 80s rock, runaway by Bon Jovi and hits by Rat and the Scorpions. And then we talk about Prince's unbelievable guitar solo during, while my Guitar Gently Weeps at the 2004 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame tribute to George Harrison.

Speaker 2:

Number 10, episode 17,. Don't Leave Me Hanging on the Telephone. We talked about Blondie's Hanging on the Telephone, which was originally done by the Nerves and it's almost note for note, almost exactly the same the best-selling albums of all time, such as Thriller, rumors, back in Black, the Eagles having two albums right there in the top three, and 50 Years of Terry Jack's Seasons in the Sun. And 50 years of Terry Jack's Seasons in the Sun. What I will say about this episode? It ends up 50 episodes we've done this year. This is the 51st, so we've done 50.

Speaker 2:

This is the 10th most listened to. When this came out. There was probably no other episode that was listened to the least in the beginning and for the first few weeks and first couple of months than this episode and absolutely surprised me because I thought it was really good, I really liked this episode, but then all of a sudden, people just started to listen to it and it just became this thing that just started to grow and grow, and grow and grow. Here we are number 10. All right, number nine, episode 40. 10 days in August 69.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that deserves to be even higher than that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know it ended up at number nine. I agree, I thought it was something that was, you know, a really good episode To me. If someone said, hey, send in an episode, what you think is your best episode, I'd probably send this episode in, right, and it talks about everything from the Beatles the Abbey Road album taking the picture for the cover. It talks about Charles Manson and you know the murders that took place over a few days in Los Angeles. It talks about Woodstock. We spend a lot of time on Woodstock. I just think it's really cool all these events that took place in a 10-day period and you know like it was a lot for the year 1969. It would be a lot for 2024, but for 1969, it definitely was a lot. I will say, recently on Facebook, stu Cook, the bass player for Creedence Clearwater Revival, actually loved the post that was connected to a Creedence post, so I thought that was kind of cool to have that.

Speaker 1:

That is so cool so.

Speaker 2:

I thought that was kind of cool. That is so cool To have that. Number eight, episode 30, broken Hearts and Auto Parts Kevin Kinney interview part two. I'll address that in a minute. Number seven, episode 41, dream a Little Dream of Me. A tribute to Mama Cass of the Mamas and the Papas, stone Temple Pilots, purple, 30th anniversary Minute with Jimmy the Kinks. You Really Got Me where you talk about the little tear and everything that was a good one.

Speaker 2:

I really enjoyed that. And the 40th anniversary of the Public Image Limited album. This Is what you Want, this Is what you Get. Number six, episode 34, apb Ian and George the interview. I really enjoyed it. They contacted us from, like I mentioned. I thought that they were this huge band everywhere because the radio station WLIR that I listened to played them all the time for so many years. And then you find out that they you know, they're just in pockets in different areas.

Speaker 1:

I'd never heard of them.

Speaker 2:

But you have now.

Speaker 1:

I know they're great.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they really, you know, were a lot of fun to have on the show and talking about you know everything and the different songs. It was fun. It was really cool reliving that. I enjoyed it. Number five, episode 15, fight for your Right for the Killing Moon Probably the worst title that I've come up with for any of the shows, but it was actually I think I tried to talk you out of it.

Speaker 2:

You did, you did try to. I think you tried to talk me out of it twice. I didn't listen and now I'm saying, man, I wish I had named it something else. But it talks about my senior talent show in high school. It had the hammer band that did jump and just different things that we did. It was a big thing for us. You know, when you got to high school, when you became a senior, there was this talent show I think I talked about. I tried to fake my way through tap dancing to the cure, you know, thinking that I could fake it and I couldn't, and that was only during tryouts. That was not the actual talent show. We talked about a party up by UMass where the kitchen floor fell through, you know, because of a Beastie Boys song and everybody just getting a little crazy Echo of the Bunnymen single, the Killing Moon, and he could not be any more gracious than what he was.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And going through stuff and nothing was out of bounds. I mean, you could talk to him about anything and he was honest and answering stuff and it was a lot of fun Him talking about how he'd love to meet Bob Dylan, you know, in a grocery store.

Speaker 1:

You know it was just funny as anything.

Speaker 2:

I mean, he is not only a good writer, a good singer, good guitar player, but he's really funny. He really is, and I just loved having him. And that was episodes 29 and 30, for those of you at home keeping track, number three, episode 38, the real my Sharona interview. And you know again Sharona Doug from the band the Knack saw her, fell in love with her, if you want to say that's what it was wrote some songs about. Her starts playing them, convinces her that she needs to start to date him. They go out on tour together. You know the Knack has their, their, you know, couple of year fame and it's just really cool because she was another one.

Speaker 2:

She was really super honest about stuff, she didn't hold back on anything and it was a lot of fun talking to someone where they would just tell you and it was a lot of fun just knowing that this was a song that I used to listen to back in the day. And now we get to meet the person that is the inspiration for it. And one of the things I forgot to mention on that episode is that shortly after the song came out, I was in Massachusetts visiting my cousin, and we're listening to the radio and you know, back in the day they'd play. Like someone would call up and be like, yeah, I want to hear this song. And they would do that and like, hey, yeah, I want to hear that song, rice-a-rona. He's like what it's like. Yeah, ricerona, no, that's my shirona.

Speaker 2:

All right, number two, episode 21 material issue ted ansani interview again another good interview where he was talking about they would sleep in the van at times, telling us how he got his Beatles bass, just all kinds of really cool stuff, and ultimately talking about, you know, the unfortunate suicide of Jim the lead singer that kind of put the end to the band. I truly believe that if Jim Ellison was still alive today, that they would be one of those bands out on the circuit that was doing really well. I just think that they were ahead of themselves with their music and people. You know the masses weren't ready for it. I think they'd be doing really good out there. So, jimmy, are you ready for the number one most listened to Music in my Shoes episode?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm trying to think of what it is.

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm going to tell you Episode 32, let's Active, an early REM producer, mitch Easter interview. This was a really cool interview. Mitch called in from North Carolina and we talked about everything from him being in the band let's Active to him producing early REM, to him just producing all kinds of different groups and it was so cool. And, again, probably the best part of the show is when you asked about the sound before Radio Free Europe starts and you know, I think he said, do you really want to hear it? Or something like that, and then he just goes into the whole explanation. That was amazing and I thought that was really cool and I tried to get people on here that I feel that I like their music or have some sort of, you know, connection throughout time and want people on the show that we can have a fun time with.

Speaker 2:

And I think all of our guests you know some of them who did not make, you know the Baker's Dozen all of our guests. We have had a lot of fun with them. It's been something that's been really cool and probably more fun than I thought it would be. So that is your Baker's Dozen, jimmy. Do you have any other episodes? I know you mentioned the Hotel Fiction when they perform live.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that was a really fun one. So I made my list and you've gone through almost all of them, but I also liked, you know, the episode 12, we talked about the movie Valley Girl. That was a fun episode.

Speaker 2:

I thought that was a really good episode. I think, on that one is really where I got the thought about let's have something in the beginning like some substance, whether it's a film or an event or whatever it is, and I think that one was the first one that I did that with.

Speaker 1:

Right, yeah.

Speaker 2:

That one was Trapped in a State of Imaginary Grace.

Speaker 1:

That's right.

Speaker 2:

I love that. You know that's from. I Melt With you. I love that line. I thought it was fantastic and sometimes I just get a kick out of naming this stuff. We talked about some of the ones I don't like that I've named, but I get a kick out of it and I really liked that episode. I do. I think that kind of gave me a way to move on from where we had started, back in 2023. So that is a good episode.

Speaker 1:

I also liked episode 20, you Don't Know Giacalone. Getting to know Vinnie Giacalone and just seeing the way you guys interacted, being friends for so long, that was fun.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think to me. I almost forgot that you were in the studio. I know we did that from the old studio.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

But I almost felt like it was just me and him on the telephone talking about stuff. And that's really cool you know we have a lot of good times together, a lot of musical memories and learning about a lot of bands together, back in those formative, you know, very early teen years and through high school and even right after high school.

Speaker 1:

Right. And then the other one I have is episode 52. We talked about Happy Days and Gilligan's Island. I always just love talking about old TV shows, so yeah, you definitely sounded like you enjoyed doing that episode.

Speaker 2:

I did so. What's funny is that is one on Facebook. You know, I post the episodes on Facebook, a link to them, and then I put some pictures with. You know, hey, what the episode's about. That one probably is the most shared episode on Facebook is the Happy Days one. Oh, and I guess it's because so many people can relate to it. You know, right, people like that, people enjoy that.

Speaker 1:

Awesome.

Speaker 2:

That is awesome. That is awesome. You know, the whole year has been awesome. It really has been. And then there's some, you know, songs and albums that have been released this year that I thought were pretty cool. I'm sure you know I'm going to name some and I want you to name some. I don't know exactly. I can think of two that you probably like, that I like off the top of my head, uh-huh, but I'm going to go first, okay, and then after that we'll have you go. So, in my opinion, the best album of 2024 is by the Libertines. Yes, all quiet on the Eastern Esplanade.

Speaker 1:

We agree on this.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, back on episode one we talked about the Libertines. It was their new single, run Run Run. But they've got Night of the Hunter songs they never play on the radio Mustangs, osh, everything. I mean you can just listen to this album from front to back. I mean it is just really, really, really good. What do you got, jimmy?

Speaker 1:

Well, I've got Hotel Fiction Staring at the Sun.

Speaker 2:

I have Hotel Fiction Staring at the Sun as well.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, great.

Speaker 2:

Ghost of Me, which is the opening song, is really cool. I like the song Still Frozen. It was one of their singles Margo, which they performed here live on Music in my Shoes, and then Next Life and the last song, why Do Good Things have to End, and that song kind of it's a little bit different because it's got, you know, some dance aspects of it and then they go into like the hotel fiction part and then they're back into like dance. So it's really cool the way that they do that.

Speaker 1:

I like that. I love how they kind of bring different styles into their music.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, I agree with you 100%. I'm going to go with the Cure Songs of a Lost World. I know we've talked about this recently. The album was just released in November, but you know we've talked about Alone, a Fragile Thing, and Nothing is Forever. End Song, I think is the best song on the album. It's over 10 minutes long.

Speaker 1:

I really like it no, it's a cool album, yeah what do you got next? All right, here's a new one for you. You you might not know about this, so uh, so pitchfork did their best albums of 2024 and I was looking through it and I didn't recognize almost anything. Or if I did recognize it, it was something like Taylor Swift or I don't know, and I don't think Taylor Swift was on there. Honestly.

Speaker 2:

Are you?

Speaker 1:

talking about T-Swizzle.

Speaker 2:

Just for the record T-Swizzle. Okay, okay, sorry about that.

Speaker 1:

So I just go all the way to number one, and it's by an artist named cindy lee.

Speaker 1:

It's a double album called diamond jubilee, and I've not heard it so I go on to spotify and I look and it's not there and I'm like what? So I go back to the little clipping from from from a pitchfork and they say, oh no, this was only released on vinyl and through a obscure geo cities link that they put on, that would for a page that was modeled after the heavens gate website. Really it was like a it was. It was like a wave throwback. You know a 1996 era looking website that had a download link and that's how people got it. But somebody has put it on YouTube and so I went in and I listened to that whole thing.

Speaker 1:

It is this amazing album and it's kind of hard to describe but it's really intimate and moody. It's this alter ego of patrick flagel. He's a canadian musician and he, he does this stuff as cindy lee I think. He plays most of the instruments himself, but when he performs live he has kind of a rotating group of friends and musicians that play with him and uh, it's, it's got a lot of kind of 60s girl group.

Speaker 1:

Uh, it has that, that reverbed vocals kind of feel of some, some 60s pop, and then it's got kind of a lot of the guitar, of more of a velvet underground kind of a sound, and just the nothing feels like it's uh overproduced or or too clinical. Everything just feels very organic, like the people are right there playing the music for you, and it's cool songs. They all flow. One flows into the next one, so it's sort of this. Just long they call it a magnum opus, pitchfork calls it, and I really like it.

Speaker 2:

Well, that is something that people will learn something new on this episode of Music in my Shoes, for sure.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Wow, that is crazy. I'll have to give it a listen to. Do Definitely sounds pretty cool there. My next album would be Bad Nerves. Oh yeah, Still nervous.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

Are you Jimmy?

Speaker 1:

No, I'm no longer nervous.

Speaker 2:

Oh good.

Speaker 1:

After having seen Bad Nerves, I think it was a cure for my nervousness.

Speaker 2:

There you go, don't Stop Antidote. I love the song Antidote. I think that song is great. Usa and You've Got the Nerve. Another great song off that album Really really good. I got to see them live as well and they definitely put on a good show. They're a lot of fun to watch. Yeah, you got anything else, jimmy.

Speaker 1:

That's all I got for right now.

Speaker 2:

Well, you know what I got? One more 50 years since their debut album and six years since their last album. Judas Priest released Invincible Shield in March of 2024. I really like this album. Rob Halford's vocals are really good. Panic Attack. Invincible Shield, the song Crown of Horns, trial by Fire it's really really good. Like I'm surprised at how good the album is, mm-hmm, and I've been saying that since it's been released. I talked about it on an earlier episode of the show. Really good job with it. Like I never thought that I would like a Judas Priest album the way I do in 2024. Great, so, jimmy, real quick.

Speaker 2:

Before we end this episode, there's a song coming out, an album coming out in 2025. This band Worm Burner, and they have a song called Marianne. I actually just put it on the Music in my Shoes Facebook page as well as on the Instagram, and this is a band that's been around probably since about 2006 or so. They're up from the New York area. I really like this song. The album, I believe, is coming out in 2025. This kind of was a little tickler of hey, this is what we have. Really good song. I'm kind of excited for 2025 to hear this. And again, you can check out our Facebook page or Instagram. You can see this video. There's a link to it. Worm Burner doing the song Marianne, what about you for 2025, jimmy.

Speaker 1:

So my band from college, the Violets from Athens, Georgia, reformed just to do a recording of a Jonathan Richman song and we are putting it out on a tribute album with some other artists on Crooked Beat Records with our friend Bill Daly that's putting it out for Record Store Day. So that's coming up in April and we'll be talking more about that as it gets closer.

Speaker 2:

That sounds pretty exciting.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we're excited about it. We did a volume one. It's called Songs from the Astral Plane, so we put that out Record Store Day a few years ago, and then we're doing volume two this year.

Speaker 2:

The Violets yes, I like it. I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 1:

The song we do is called Dodge Vegomatic. It's bringing it all back to Axel Foley that we talked about last episode. It's about a car that's not going to run.

Speaker 2:

All beat up.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm Wow.

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm looking forward to it and looking forward to record day.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, me too.

Speaker 2:

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