Music In My Shoes

E63 Shangri-LA Over Troubled Water

Episode 63

Join me on an exploration of Shangri-La studio's rich musical history. A legendary music studio that was spared from the flames of the devastating Los Angeles wildfires. With intriguing stories of The Band and Bob Dylan and Dylan's iconic tour bus-turned-recording space, you'll gain a fresh appreciation for this studio that’s been a haven for music legends like Eric Clapton and Richard Manuel. Together, we reflect on the studio’s significant contributions to music, from the albums of Adele, Kings of Leon and Mark Knopfler, and consider the critical importance of preserving our musical landmarks.

Shangri-La's walls have borne witness to a kaleidoscope of musical genius, and this episode is a walk through those hallowed halls. Listen as I unravel the story behind a song inspired by Ray Kroc's life. Discover how Mr. Ed, the talking horse, plays into this tapestry of anecdotes, mixing music history with pop culture and a dash of lighthearted trivia. You'll also hear about the studio's eclectic legacy, featuring sessions with Metallica, U2, and Depeche Mode, that continue to captivate artists and audiences alike.

From 'Love Stinks' from the J. Geils Band to the iconic song "Don't You Forget About Me" by Simple Minds, we journey through transformative songs and bands that have shaped the musical landscape. As we reflect on paths that lead to varying levels of success, there's a heartfelt call to embrace every musical story, big or small. “Music In My Shoes,” where we blend stories of music history with personal reflections and keep the melody playing.

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Speaker 1:

He's got the feeling in his toe-toe.

Speaker 2:

He's got the feeling and it's out there growing. Hey everybody, this is Jim Boge, and you're listening to Music In my Shoes. That was Vic Thrill kicking off episode 63. As always, I'm thrilled to be here with you. Let's learn something new or remember something old. I often read Ultimate Classic Rock online. And, jimmy, have you ever read that before?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I've read some things on there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's a pretty cool thing. You know they have some good articles. So recently I read this article by a guy named Nick DiRiso. Caught my attention and it's about how, despite the January 2025 Los Angeles wildfires, the Shangri-La studio was untouched. So you know all these fires that are going on. So you know all these fires that are going on Malibu, you know Palisades, all different areas of LA, and this studio somehow didn't get, you know, destructed, like many others, thousands of places, and you know so many people now without homes. But one thing kind of just didn't get burnt and stood still. And you know, kind of now you can look back on all the things that I'm going to talk about and you know, I think sometimes we take for granted places and take for granted history until it's gone, and then all of a sudden we're like, oh, but I wanted to kind of talk a little bit about it because it's actually unscathed and that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1:

That is.

Speaker 2:

So located in Malibu. Actress Margot built a ranch house on the property in 1958. That's how long this place has been there. The studio was built in 1974 with specifications from the band and Bob Dylan.

Speaker 1:

Oh cool.

Speaker 2:

Eric Clapton slept there for a few months while he was completing his album no Reason to Cry, and while Eric Clapton was there, some of the people who would come by and hang out with him. Some ended up on the album, some weren't. But I mean, listen to this group of people. I mean Bob Dylan, the band, you know, they were there Van Morrison, ringo Starr, pete Townsend, joe Cocker, billy Preston and Ronnie Wood. I mean that's a pretty cool group of people. That is so Bob Dylan would often stay there and he would sleep in a tent in the garden. Ah, wow, like he's Bob Dylan. This is the 70s. I mean, bob Dylan and the band just came off this huge reunion 1974 tour. He can afford anything and he's sleeping in a tent in the garden.

Speaker 1:

Well, based on what I learned about him in the movie A Complete Unknown, he's an odd dude.

Speaker 2:

I have not seen it yet.

Speaker 1:

I'd like to see it. Yeah, it was good it. You don't learn as much about him as I expected, but I think it's by design really yeah, because he's a complete unknown oh, there you go even the people that knew and loved him, that his, his girlfriends and his manager and all these people. Like you know, they never really cracked the egg. I believe that Is that an expression, because I think it is. Now. It is an expression. They cracked the egg, okay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I definitely believe it. I really do. I think he is his own person and he's true to that. I don't think he goes out of his way to be his own person. I think that's really who he is. Right. He goes out of his way to be his own person. I think that's really who he is. I really do so. He actually left a tour bus on the property and that tour bus now serves as part of the studio. You can actually go in this tour bus and record some stuff.

Speaker 1:

Oh man, that's awesome.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's unbelievable, I just find it, man, that's awesome. Yeah, it's unbelievable, I just find it, you know, just super cool. So last episode we talked about the band's farewell concert in 1976, the Last Waltz, and how the instruments were rented from Norman's Rag Guitars in Tarzana, california. Norman's Rag or Tars oh yeah, in Tarzana, california. Interviews for the same documentary, martin Scorsese Really good one if you haven't seen it. Lots of guests Some of the people I just mentioned were some of the guests you know at this last show.

Speaker 2:

They do the interviews at the Shangri-La. They do the interviews at the Shangri-La. It's just so cool how you know things just kind of interact with each other and you know this and this and this and this and you don't really know about it until you start to think about it. So some of the Kings of Leon debut album was done at the Shangri-La and former Dire Straits singer-guitarist Mark Knopfler recorded his 2004 album Shangri-La at the studio. Obviously, yeah, it's a really good album. I'm not sure if you've heard it before. No, really really good. And there's probably the most popular I don't know if I should say popular, most well-known, all right, maybe not even that Most known. How about I go with? That Most known song is Boom Like Him, and it's based on Ray Kroc's autobiography. Oh, ray Kroc being McDonald's guy McDonald's guy oh Ray.

Speaker 2:

Kroc being McDonald's guy McDonald's guy and the song actually uses some of the quotes, some of the words in his autobiography and it's just really super cool. It's a really cool album. There's a song about the King of Skiffle, lonnie Donegan. There's a song about Sonny Liston, the boxer, elvis Presley. It's just a really cool. You know, some of it to me is almost Americana, but it's also folky, but it's still some rock. I'm not even sure what to call it, but I like it. It's a really really good album, definitely worth a listen. Summer Metallica's 2008 Death Magnetic album was recorded at Shangri-La.

Speaker 2:

There you go. Rick Rubin purchased the property in 2011, and Eminem, ed Sheeran, adele they've all recorded there. U2 recorded parts of three albums there Songs of Innocence, songs of Experience, songs of Surrender.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2:

Depeche Mode recorded 2023's Memento Mori there, and Pearl Jam with Dark Matter from 2024, their big album that a lot of people thought was album of the year. It's just so many artists that have been there that want to be part of whether it's, you know, going into Bob Dylan's old tour bus or just recording in the studios. In the studio that so many others have been there. And I read a really cool story about Rick Rubin had Neil Young in and he says to Neil Young have you ever been here before? He says I was here in the 70s the day I came up with Cortez the Killer. This was the first place I played it.

Speaker 2:

Oh that's cool, like the first place that someone actually heard it was there and you know this is you know, years and decades later, where he's going to record some stuff with Rick Rubin, and I just find that just really cool. I forgot to mention the band's. Richard Manuel lived on the property for about a year and he lived in a bungalow that was a converted stable that get this was used by Mr Ed when they filmed scenes there Like this place is unbelievable, it is Okay.

Speaker 2:

So if Bob Dylan sleeping in a tent in the garden wasn't enough, you have Mr Ed's former stable as someone's bedroom. A horse is a horse, of course, of course. And no one can talk to a horse, of course, that is of course. The horse is the famous.

Speaker 1:

Mr Ed the TV show you want to hear my Mr Ed. Hello, I'm Mr Ed.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my Lord, oh, I apologize. That was great, thank you. Can you do the Wilbur?

Speaker 1:

Well, actually Wilbur, like Eddie Albert.

Speaker 2:

No, Alan Young was Wilbur, wasn't he the owner?

Speaker 1:

Oh, I'm mixing up Petticoat, junction and Mr Ed.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm way off Alan Young, alan, young Alan. Young was Wilbur who went on to do Scrooge McDuck, or what was that? Oh really, he was the voice for like 40 years for Disney's Scrooge oh McDuck. Yeah, Scrooge McDuck.

Speaker 1:

That wasn't like the person that did Donald Duck. That was a separate guy.

Speaker 2:

It was Alan Young, the guy from.

Speaker 1:

Mr Ed oh, that's great. Yeah, I don't think I can do an Alan Young impression.

Speaker 2:

I hate to let you down, that's okay, that's no problem at all. He did that almost until he died. I mean, he did it for a good 40 years.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, gigs like that are great to come by. Oh Wow, I didn't know you had that up your sleeve.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, sometimes you'd be amazed. So I mentioned the property was originally owned by an actress named Margot. Her full name was and this is no joke Her full name was and this is no joke her full name Maria Margarita Guadalupe Teresa, estella Balado, castilla E O'Donnell Now that's like an Irish name at the end of it. I'm not really sure where that came from. I got to be honest. I didn't do a ton of research, but I understand why she just went by. Margot Makes a lot of sense to me.

Speaker 1:

Where was she from Spain?

Speaker 2:

She was. I don't think she was from Spain. I don't know if she was from South America, I don't remember. To be honest with you, but in 1945, she married Eddie Albert and they were together until her death in 1985.

Speaker 1:

Wait, I mentioned Eddie Albert by accident a second ago.

Speaker 2:

Yes, you did, that is weird and Eddie Albert starred with Eva Gabor in the 1965 to 1971.

Speaker 1:

Green Acres, green Acres, mount Petticoat, junction. I'm getting all mixed up.

Speaker 2:

Yes, green Acres is the place to be, but that's also for another episode of Music in my Shoes, all right, so so much destruction from the fires I talked about. Thousands of people, you know, lost their homes. You know musicians all their instruments were gone Regular people like me and you nothing left, nothing at all, and we can't forget about that. That's really the most important thing. But I definitely find it uplifting to hear something with so much history, like I talked about, made it through it and it's something that people can still talk about, you know, for years to come. That's the good part about it, you know. Yeah, let's revisit some music from the past. Let's revisit some music from the past. Simon and Garfunkel Bridge Over Troubled Water, released on January 26, 1970. Final studio album by the pair, the first single, the Boxer, released previous year and it peaked at number seven on Billboard Hot 100, may 17th 1969. The single Bridge Over Troubled Water came out January 20th 1970.

Speaker 1:

55 years ago.

Speaker 2:

And peaks at number one on February 28th 1970. And it remained there for six weeks and I believe it was dethroned by the Beatles' Let it Be. I think that's what took over, which is kind of funny because if you listen to Bridge Over Troubled Water and you listen to Let it Be, like back to back, they're very similar. Yeah, Very similar songs.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I think just tonally like maybe that's what the nation and the world needed at that time. You know the 60s were so tumultuous, particularly right there at the end. It's 1970, and those songs were just sort of like peaceful.

Speaker 2:

They were. I definitely agree with you. You know the song starts off very low. When you listen to Bridge Over Troubled Water, the first thing you want to do is put your volume up, but the problem is is that it just gets louder and louder, and louder as you listen to it. When you're weary, feeling small, when tears are in your eyes, I'll dry them all.

Speaker 1:

Art Garfunkel lead vocal.

Speaker 2:

That is correct, simon, paul. Simon wanted him to sing it and thought it would be perfect for him. Art didn't really want to sing it by himself, he wanted to kind of do the duet thing that they normally did, right? But you know, paul wrote it, wrote the music, wrote the words, and he's like no, no, I think this is perfect for you. And it's funny because after they broke up he always wondered should I have sang on that song? Because, you know, everybody thinks about art, but I'm the one that came up with everything.

Speaker 2:

So, it's just kind of funny.

Speaker 1:

He has plenty of hits. He doesn't need that one.

Speaker 2:

Art Garfunkel doesn't have many solo hits Right.

Speaker 1:

Paul Simon has a ton yeah.

Speaker 2:

Paul Simon has a ton. I'm on your side. Oh, when times get rough and friends just can't be found, like a bridge over troubled water, I will lay me down. Yeah, is that a tear in your eye? Sorry?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh, I will lay me down. Yeah, is that a tear in your eye?

Speaker 2:

Sorry, yeah, oh, I thought it was no, no it wasn't.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I apologize. It ended up being number one on Billboard's Hot 100 end-of-year list for 1970. Number one song, cecilia, which is my favorite song on this album, one of my favorite songs by Simon and Garfunkel, peaked at number four May 30th 1970. And as a child I sang the song all the time, and I mean I was still singing the song, I'm 20. I still sang the song a lot. I'm going to be honest with you, I just loved it. You can bang on anything, you know the song Cecilia.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because it has all the kind of clapping and stuff in it you can bang on anything.

Speaker 2:

It sounded like it belonged in the song. It's just fun sing-along and just banging on stuff. I enjoyed it. I did. It's a great song.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So if we move up, january 28th 1980, jay Giles band Love Stinks album comes out. And let me just say this is one of the favorite albums of mine of 1980 and it's in my top 200 favorite albums of all time. I love this album. I've loved it since the first time. I love this album. I've loved it since the first time that I heard it and I wasn't a big Jay Giles band fan before it. I didn't really even know much about them before. But this album came out and it was like whoa yeah, I bought it on cassette and it was shortly after it came out and it was one of the first albums I actually downloaded when I switched to get into the digital age.

Speaker 2:

Keyboards are a huge part of this album, huge part. It starts off with Just Can't Wait. It's a poppy song about wishing he could be with his girl now instead of tonight and just that's all he can think about is, you know, just Can't Wait and it's just a great song, like it's something that you can relate to when you're you know, when you're younger and you're dating and so forth, and young love and oh lord comeback. First single peaked at number 32 in march 1980 on billboard hot 100 great guitar riff, great keyboards and wanting that lost love to come back, excellent guitar solo. And then it breaks into almost the disco-ish Donna Summer I Feel Love moment. And then some serious piano playing and then boom right back into the song. The louder you play this, the better it sounds. Just love it. You probably can tell I can tell yeah, taking you down in?

Speaker 1:

I can tell yeah.

Speaker 2:

Taking you down in nighttime. Great rockin' songs. The song Love Stinks opened side two and peaked at number 38, may 31st of 1980. Opening drums and then the guitar. You know I can't do the drums. You know the boo, you know? No, you do the drums. You know the boom? You know no, you just did the drums. But you love her, but she loves him and he loves somebody else. You just can't win Jimmy again. We've all been there. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I know, Sometimes you just need to shout out love stinks.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I mean this, to shout out, love stinks. Yeah, and I mean this, of course. You know, once you met your wife, love didn't stink anymore. Just so that we can clarify that.

Speaker 1:

No, exactly.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, this is pre.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, love stunk.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yeah, there you go. That's it. But it's funny. In the music video there's a scene where the bride and groom, they're walking, you just see their backs and then they turn around and they got like gas masks on. You know, love stinks. You know, just to play on words, I've had the blues, the reds and the pinks. One thing for sure Love stinks. There you go. Try not to think about it until the walls come tumbling down. Bluesy rock numbers. Really good album. I've been listening to it for 45 years. It peaked on the Billboard 200 chart at number 18, april 19th 1980. And one more thing Peter Wolfe was the lead singer of the band from 1967 to 1983. Right Like he was there all part of when they started off kind of as a blues band.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

And I'm not sure that, like I knew that when this album came out, I think I thought that they were, you know, like Journey who had another singer and changed the whole direction of the band, but he had really been there.

Speaker 1:

He had yeah.

Speaker 2:

And it was. What was it Centerfold?

Speaker 1:

Was that the album that came out in 81? Was that the name of the album? I know that was the biggest hit off of it with you know, Freeze, Frame and Centerfold.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think it was Centerfold and you know, I guess after the touring for that, that's when he decided to go solo.

Speaker 1:

And I always thought that there was not a Jay Giles because the singer was Peter Wolfe. But there's really a Jay Giles, he's the guitar player.

Speaker 2:

He was the guitar player. Yeah, I think he passed away a year ago, maybe About a year somewhere around there, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm, so Simple around there, if I'm not mistaken Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

So Simple Mind's, don't you Forget About Me. Wlir, screamer of the Week, the fourth week of January 1985. As always seemed to be the case, lir was ahead of its time with Don't you not? Entering the Billboard Hot 100 until late February and peaking at number one on May 18th 1985. Yet on WLIR, it's the best new song in January of 1985.

Speaker 1:

Well, and that song, you know, I graduated high school in 1987, so my senior year was 86, 87, and I feel like that song is totally tied to my senior year of high school. So I mean that song stayed popular through 86 and 87, and LIR was playing it in January 85.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, and that's the cool thing about the station. You know we've talked about it many times growing up in New York listening to 92.7 WLIR and it always seemed to be ahead of everything. You know, we talked a few episodes ago, we talked about the Pet Shop Boys, west End Girls, how far ahead they were with that and there's so many songs and I guess with the popularity of the movie, that made it so that the song just kind of lasted forever. And you know, the movie being the Breakfast Club, it was written for the Breakfast Club Several people turned down to record the song, including Simple Minds, in the beginning they just weren't interested. So, jimmy, you know how they came to changing their minds and recording the song, what the difference was of no, I'm not going to do it because I don't like it to. Okay, I'll do it.

Speaker 1:

I don't know. Did it have anything to do with Billy Idol?

Speaker 2:

Billy Idol was actually one of them that turned it down but then recorded it, I think, for like a Greatest Hits album later on, vital Idol, is that what it was on?

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Okay, basically it comes down to Jim Kerr or Kerr, or. You know, I can't pronounce words all the way.

Speaker 1:

We're going with Kerr. We're going to go with Kerr. I'm going with Kerr. We're going to go with Kerr.

Speaker 2:

All right, jim Kerr, the singer and leader of Simple Minds, his wife, chrissy Hines, said she liked the song and they should record it. So the band spent some time with the co-writer of the song, keith Forsey, and they learned about his work with Giorgio Moroder, and some of that work included the song I Feel Love by Donna Summer that we just mentioned a little bit ago.

Speaker 1:

That was featured on the show Green Acres. No, it wasn't.

Speaker 2:

No, it was not. On the Simple Minds website, jim Kerr says the success of that song Movie fast-tracked Simple Minds onto a level of success that may or may not already have been coming our way, but it also alienated some of our until then loyal followers, who perceive Simple Minds as a cool Euro thing only and certainly not something to be splattered all over MTV. They were, of course, entitled to their opinion. I think that's really cool. To me that's like a super honest statement and you know I did listen to Simple Minds before Don't you Forget About Me came out and they were just a totally different band. They wrote their own words, they wrote their own music. They were a cool Euro band, just like he said Right, and something was different once that song came out. Now I love the song. I mean I wouldn't be talking about it if I didn't like the song. It has a lot of good memories for me as well. I just really love his honesty putting that on his website.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they kind of came out of the post-punk British movement right. Yes, yeah, I think they had members that were in some of the early punk bands.

Speaker 2:

I mean they put out an album and, excuse me, a song. I want to say the single came out in like fall 83, waterfront. That's definitely one of my favorite songs of all time. It's just a really really good song. They've put out many good songs. This was a whole new direction you know for them and you know it is what it is, because probably without the Breakfast Club and probably without Don't you Forget About Me we're probably not talking a whole lot about them today. Most people don't know who they are at that point in time.

Speaker 1:

I don't know that they would have ever gotten to Alive and Kicking if they hadn't.

Speaker 2:

And that's a good song. Yeah, that's a real good song. I like that song a good song. Yeah, that's a real good song.

Speaker 1:

I like that song a lot. But if they had not been talked into doing Don't you Forget About Me, then they probably would have stayed a more obscure Euro band and not done something like Alive and Kicking.

Speaker 2:

I would agree with you, definitely agree with you. Second week of January 1990, birdhouse in your Soul by they Might Be Giants was the shriek of the week on WDRE in New York. So I've mentioned before at a certain point. I want to say it was about 1987, there was an ownership change and WLIR now became WDRE, still at 92.7. And, jimmy, you've kind of poked fun at before. The screamer of the week now became the shriek of the week, yeah, so anyway, the shriek of the week was always the best new song, screamer of the week, best new song voted on by listeners. If listeners would call in and say, hey, you know, my vote goes towards this. So second week of january Birdhouse in your Soul. By the end of the month it entered the Billboard Modern Rock Tracks chart, eventually peaking at number three.

Speaker 2:

And it's about the point of view for the song from a nightlight. I mean, it's just so clever the words of this song, like they just think differently. They might be giants, they just think differently than people normally think when they want to do a song. Hey, let's look at it from the point of a nightlight and let's make this the biggest song that we've ever had. And that's exactly what they did. I'm your friend. I'm not your only friend, but I'm a little glowing friend, but really I'm not actually your friend, but I am. I love that. That catches me right from the beginning of the song, before they just go into everything and it's just. You know the lyrics Again. I can't say enough about them, how they are just so witty and whimsical and just so cool with everything.

Speaker 1:

They ended up doing a lot of children's music later. Yes they did Because they're so creative and whimsical off of this album, particle man.

Speaker 2:

I think that that was probably like their first. You know foray, if that's the word into. You know children's music. You know Particle man, particle, anyway, I can't, I don't know all the words to it but you know what song I'm talking about.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm. So it's all off the January 1990 album Flood, which is a good listen on any day, and I listened to the band for a few years before this. But, like I said, this is really where they got noticed on a large scale and the car horns in the song sound very similar to the car horns from the 1966 song Summer in the City by the Lovin' Spoonful.

Speaker 1:

Hmm, same sound effect.

Speaker 2:

It's pretty close. It really is. I've listened to it many times back to back, and it's very, very close.

Speaker 1:

I might have to do some research on that.

Speaker 2:

The trumpet solo is played by Frank London, who also played on the LL Cool J song Going Back to Cali from 1988. And the solos are really similar in style. Also, you know, when you play, what is it? You kind of put that little plunger thing on the trumpet. That sound it makes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, well, they call that a mute.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think that's what it is, but if you listen they're very, very similar. Same guy that did both of them. April 3rd 1990, they might be giants appeared on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, but Jay Leno was the guest host. They played Birdhouse with Doc Severinsen and the Tonight Show band, with Doc doing the trumpet solo. It's really cool. You got to check that out and watch. You don't expect Doc Severinsen in the band and the band has a lot of horn players in it.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

So it's definitely a different vibe when they play it it's a little bit faster. A different vibe when they play it, it's a little bit faster. It's not the um. It's not as mysterious when they do it on the Tonight Show just because of the instrumentation and he doesn't sing it the same way, but it's still really cool. It's definitely worth checking out Blue Canary in the Outlet by the Light Switch who watches over you? Make a little birdhouse in your soul. And let's move on to the third week of January 1980. Found the WDRE Shriek of the Week to be nothing compares to you.

Speaker 2:

The Shanae O'Connor song, a cover of a song written by Prince. It's one of those songs that you can feel her pain as she sings the song, like Prince wrote it for her, even though it was a song written like five years earlier. For the family. It's perfect and I guess that when she listened to that song it kind of explained how she felt with a broken relationship. Peaked at number one on Billboard April 21st 1990, and was the number three song of the year for 1990. In 2021, rolling Stone magazine had it at number 184 of their 500 greatest songs of all time.

Speaker 1:

That's up there.

Speaker 2:

That is definitely up there, without a doubt. And speaking of being up there, according to my watch it's Minute with Jimmy. It's time for Minute with Jimmy. Minute with Jimmy. Minute with Jimmy. It's time for Minute with Jimmy. Minute with Jimmy. Minute with Jimmy.

Speaker 1:

All right. In 2020, five years ago, my favorite album of the year came out and it's by the Rentals who we talked about earlier in another episode. The album's called Q36, and it is a space-themed album that Matt Sharp, the main person in the rentals. He kind of has a revolving cast of characters that play with him. Uh, I think he pretty much played everything on this record and he came up with this concept concept album combines a lot of synthesizers and pretty heavy like noise, guitars and atmospheric kind of sounds. It's a very cool long album it's like an hour plus. It has 16 songs on it. My favorites are my favorite one is Forgotten Astronaut. If you're going to start on one song, that one, but the first song on the record, shake your Diamonds, and then I will mention the final song on the record Shake your Diamonds, and then I will mention the final song on the record, elon Musk is Making Me Sad.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm not really familiar a whole lot with that.

Speaker 1:

So Elon Musk is Making Me Sad. The lyrics if I go from memory, it's Elon. You're making me so sad because I calculated the math of our birthdays and basically what matt sharp is saying is that he figured out that elon musk is two years younger than him. They probably both got commodore 64 computers when they were kids and he's like I used mine to make fake IDs and you created, you know, paypal or whatever, and so he was lamenting that he'd squandered his opportunity to be as famous as Elon.

Speaker 2:

I think many of us do. If you look back at, probably, people that you know and I'm not saying that they're necessarily famous but you're like, oh, we kind of started here and I went in this direction and they went in that direction and they're doing pretty darn good yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know, hey, hats off to them.

Speaker 2:

There you go, but you know what? They're not on Music In my Shoes we are.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and Matt Sharp's record is on Music In my Shoes.

Speaker 2:

Because we're talking about it. That's right. My name is Jimmy. You can't beat that. You know what else you can't beat. If you want to contact us, you can at musicinmyshoes at gmailcom. Please like and follow the Music In my Shoes Facebook and Instagram pages. That's it for episode 63 of Music in my Shoes. I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of Arcade 160 Studios located right here in Atlanta, georgia, and Vic Thrill for our podcast music and let's not forget Wilbur. This is Jim Boge, and I hope you learned something new or remembered something old. We'll meet again on our next episode. Until then, live life and keep the music playing. Thank you.

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