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E70 R.E.M. Reunion and Cracker Camp in

Episode 70

An unexpected music miracle unfolded in Athens, Georgia when all four original members of REM reunited on stage during a Michael Shannon and Jason Narducy performance celebrating the 40th anniversary of "Fables of the Reconstruction." This rare convergence became the highlight of a music-packed fortnight in Athens, GA that I'm thrilled to share with you in vivid detail.

The magic moment happened at the legendary 40 Watt Club when Michael Stipe took the microphone, joining Peter Buck, Mike Mills, and Bill Berry for a performance of "Pretty Persuasion." As someone witnessing this unicorn of rock reunions, I found myself torn between capturing the moment on my phone and simply absorbing the once-in-a-lifetime experience with my own eyes.

My Athens immersion continued with visits to iconic landmarks like the Murmur Trestle and Weaver D's (of "Automatic for the People" fame), followed by four days at Cracker's annual "Camp in" event. This gathering of devoted fans—affectionately called "Crumbs"—featured intimate performances ranging from David Lowery and Johnny Hickman's acoustic sets to full-band experiences. A particularly moving moment was Ike Reilly's performances featuring his adult children, weaving themes of redemption and musical legacy.

We dive into musical history with explorations of Depeche Mode's "Violator" album and its transformative impact on their fanbase in 1990, plus Mike Watt's collaborative 1995 album featuring members of Pearl Jam, Nirvana, and the Foo Fighters. "Minute with Jimmy" spotlights The Vapors' surprising return with a new album 45 years after their hit "Turning Japanese," proving great music transcends time.

Whether you're a devoted fan of Athens' storied music scene or simply love discovering musical connections across generations, this episode captures those special moments when music history unfolds before your eyes—and why sharing these experiences matters now more than ever.

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Speaker 1:

He's got the feeling in his toe-toe.

Speaker 2:

He's got the feeling and it's out there growing. Hey everybody, this is Jim Boge, and you're listening to Music In my Shoes. That was Vic Thrill kicking off episode 70. As always, I'm thrilled to be here with you. Let's learn something new or remember something old. So, jimmy, I have a lot to talk about today. A lot to talk about Awesome. We had Kevin Kinney and Lenny Kay in studio with us and that was a pretty awesome episode that they, you know, appeared on yeah.

Speaker 2:

And I had the opportunity to see them that night with Peter Buck at Eddie's Attic. What a great show. It was a lot of fun and Kevin would take a turn singing a song and then it would be Lenny K singing a song and it was very energetic. It was everything that I could have hoped it to be all packed in one day after having them here.

Speaker 1:

You were saying that Peter was energetic too, right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, peter was very energetic. He really was into it. You know he loved the Patti Smith group, you know as a youngster and that's part of why he got into music as well as Michael Stipe, and you could see the energy in him, how excited he was to be playing along with them Not that it was his first time playing with them, but just for him it's definitely a fun thing. So that was pretty cool. What else is pretty cool is two nights later at 40 Watt in Athens, athens, ga, michael Shannon and Jason Narducci. They have a band and it's not a cover band but it's kind of like a tribute band that plays REM songs and they're on tour doing their 40th anniversary not their 40th anniversary, but REM's 40th anniversary of Fables of the Reconstruction.

Speaker 1:

Or it could be Reconstruction of the Fables. You don't know about that. No, oh, so the record, one side said Fables of the Reconstruction, the other side said Reconstruction of the Fables. I did not know that. Yeah, and if you look at the album cover it says Fables of the and then kind of down the other side it says Reconstruction and then it says of the again. So you could kind of turn it and make it say whichever one you wanted. It's officially known as Fables of the Reconstruction, but that's just REM kind of adding their own spin to it.

Speaker 2:

That's pretty cool. I did not know that. Learn something new. So they're doing their you know tribute to the band, to the album, and they did it last year, tried to get tickets to it, could not, it was sold out and ended up that three of the four guys from REM showed up last year everybody but Michael Stipe and when we heard that they were coming this year, it's like we got to go, because if three of them showed up last year, maybe four will show up, or even if only three show up, it's still cool, you know. So tickets went on sale, I'd say in the fall.

Speaker 1:

October.

Speaker 2:

I want to say it was yeah it was a pretty long time ago, two shows in Athens, both of them sold out, and fortunately I got to go.

Speaker 1:

I got to go.

Speaker 2:

You got to go. Some friends A lot of friends between me and you Got to go to the show and it was just a really really fun night.

Speaker 1:

It's my wife's favorite REM album, so it was a really big, really fun night. It's my wife's favorite REM album, so it was a really big deal for her too. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I did not know that. There you go. Another good reason to be there. So Bill Mike Mills, bill Bill Berry, the drummer, mike Mills and Peter Buck showed up again. Okay, they had played the night before. I told you there was two shows. They had played on the Thursday night before, but on the Friday night show that we went to, all three showed up again and between them they played on either solo or a combination of them on eight songs. Right, okay, harborcoat, they Harborcoat, they play Harborcoat, which was Peter Buck and Mike Mills, and I absolutely love that song and they did such a great job. I was like man, this is fantastic. And then the biggest moment of the night comes right after because Michael Stipe joins them. So it's all four members of REM on stage with Shannon and Arduci, and you know just it was. I don't know. It was everything you could hope for in a band that doesn't tour and keep saying that they're not going to tour again, and you know they do. Pretty persuasion, again, I love Reckoning.

Speaker 1:

I think that album's fantastic, and I think, now that you mention it, I think that album starts out with Harbor Coat and Pretty Persuasion is the second song, so it's fitting that they played that right after it, right, right?

Speaker 2:

yeah, and it was just. It was fantastic. I mean, I took pictures, I looked, and then the second half of the song, I used my phone to video, but I was trying to take everything in, I was trying to take part of it in live, because it's very different when you're looking on your phone than when you're looking in person, right you know. So I'm trying to take pictures, I'm trying to take video, I'm trying to do all this Because will they be together again? I don't know. I mean, so what were your thoughts? When you know we talk, we keep thinking, yeah, he's going to show up, it's going to happen.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, I had faith that they were going to show up and hopefully play again. They all have houses in Athens and because they were there the night before, it's like oh yeah, they should come again. And it sounded like they had a really good time the night before and sure enough they did. The cool thing that happened on our night was Michael Stipe. Very clearly you could hear him through the microphone. He said to Michael Shannon he said I'm singing lead tonight Because the night before they kind of both been singing a little bit together. And this was no, this is Michael Stipe leading and Michael Shannon literally stood back. He's a great singer but you know, when Michael Stipe's up there singing, you want to give him the spotlight. It was awesome.

Speaker 2:

It really was. I mean, without a doubt, and I'm so glad that we went Friday night, like you said. You know that was clearly the night Michael Stipe wanted to sing. They played a lot more songs together. The previous night Peter Buck was actually playing with Lenny Kay and Kevin Kinney in Athens and Mike Mills went to that show. Michael Stipe was actually on the side watching that, and when that show ended, and Mills played with them right.

Speaker 2:

Yes, when that show ended, then they all ended up going to 41. So that must have been a super cool night for all of them, just all these different things that they got to do. So it reminds me, don't you have some sort of fables of the reconstruction story that you told me one?

Speaker 1:

time, first time that I'd really seen REM live. They played at the Fox Theater in Atlanta and this is still true, I believe to this day, that you can go down to the Fox Theater on the day of a show, and I believe it's five o'clock. They release the promo tickets that weren't picked up by contest winners or people from radio stations or whatever it is. They don't want seats to be empty. So if you didn't pick up your tickets by then, they're going to sell them at the box office for face value. So a lot of times a show that, oh, the scalpers are asking three times the face value, no, you just get it for whatever. And my friend John McCarl and I got tickets 1985, to the Fables Tour and we were like second row center. It was incredible.

Speaker 2:

That's pretty awesome.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so it was a great, great show.

Speaker 2:

That's a very cool story. Not having to pay a ton of money to have great seats like that, yeah, and I'm sure face value back then was like $12 or something.

Speaker 1:

It's crazy. It might not have even been that much, you know.

Speaker 2:

You know it's funny how things have changed. So while I stayed in Athens that weekend stayed on the street where the Murmur Trestle is from. You know the REM album Murmur Took some pictures with that. Went by Weaver D's and you know, took some pictures with the.

Speaker 1:

Automatic.

Speaker 2:

Automatic for the people sign up above. And I went to an Athens Rock Lobsters hockey game so I really took in like all the Athens things to do.

Speaker 1:

Do they play the song Rock Lobster, like when they score a goal or something?

Speaker 2:

They do, and everybody takes their hands like claws and goes. I know you can't see me at home, but this is what they do, Jimmy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they can picture it. Everybody has a gimmick. Make your hands like claws and snap them back and forth.

Speaker 2:

Snap them back and forth and so forth, but it was a pretty cool weekend. So not only did I do that, that weekend I ended up going to Cracker has this annual thing in Athens called the Campin, which was the following Wednesday it started. So I ended up. Out of 10 days, I spent eight either partial or whole days in Athens.

Speaker 1:

So I spent- yeah, you're practically a local.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, athenian, is that the correct word?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, all right.

Speaker 2:

So I was back there. You know, the four days it's a really cool thing. You know, last year I went to one night. This year I went to, you know, all four days that had. You know, some of them had things in the day, some of them was things at night, and it was really cool because all these people from all over the country flew in for it. And it's this group of people that are huge Cracker fans. They call themselves the Crumbs and I just met a ton of them and they Wow yeah, and they don't even live in Georgia, they're just coming from all over. Really nice people. I had a lot of fun talking to a lot of them, hearing some good stories. It was fun, really good people.

Speaker 2:

First day it was first night, actually Abe Partridge and the Cracker Duo, so it was David Lowery and Johnny Hickman playing by themselves. Second day, david Lowery opens up solo and then they do a song swap with David Lowery, johnny Hickman and Jim Dalton. Jim Dalton plays with Roger Klein and the Peacemakers and he came in for the show and so Jim Dalton did a song and I don't know anything of Jim. This is the first time really hearing his stuff. Then Johnny would do a song, then David Lowery would do a song and then back to Jim and it would go through. It was a really cool concept. I had fun. I really did enjoy that Night three.

Speaker 2:

Well, actually day three, they have this thing called the Crumposium and it was a day thing where there was pizza but they had four people that were crumbs, that have either taught at a university or are still doing it and kind of going over what they, you know, are all about and books that they might have published and these different things. It was just really cool. I learned a ton of stuff, ton of stuff really liked that part. And that night was the Ike Reilly assassination, followed by Cracker Full Band. Ike Reilly assassination did not know a whole lot. Did you know much about?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so my friend came in town for that. My friend Mo, from Chicago, and he's been friends with Ike Reilly for 20 years, so Mo has been sending me Ike Reilly songs now and then so I was familiar with a bunch of the songs and kind of with his backstory. He actually has a documentary about his life that showed in Athens that afternoon at a movie theater called Cine and I watched the trailer for it. I haven't seen the movie yet, we couldn't get there early enough to see the movie, but it sounds like he's had an up and down life, like a lot of rock and rollers do, and he's had to work some not so glamorous jobs and now he's living his rock and roll dream. So it's pretty cool.

Speaker 2:

It is a pretty cool story, and the one thing that I really kind of liked about it is he had two of his kids up there that were singing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they're probably in their 20s right.

Speaker 2:

One's 27 and one's 31. Okay, they look younger than what I thought that they were.

Speaker 1:

But I actually I would have thought like 22 and 26.

Speaker 2:

I actually talked to them after the show. I went up and they were at the merch little booth area, wasn't expecting it and just you know, talked to them for a few minutes and I talked to them about how it seemed like it was a family revival, you know, not so much of an assassination as it was a revival while they were up there and it was really uplifting. And you know, their songs are not straightforward rock and roll songs. They're different. You know, parts of it remind me of Bruce Springsteen.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was going to say that you know parts of it. Remind me of you know like a Joe Strummer after the Clash.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's a good thought too. Yeah, maybe a little bit of like old 97s or something sort of that acoustic.

Speaker 2:

Right and it was just. I really liked the way it was. So I was telling them about it and they said have you seen the documentary? You have to see the documentary. If you're going to talk about my dad at all, you have to see the documentary. So I watched the documentary the next day it was on like Hulu or something and watched it. Don't Turn you Back on Friday Night is the name of it and it's everything that you said. It is and it's the ups and the downs and I mean he's sharing everything and it's got to be tough as he's sharing all this stuff because you know, nobody really wants to share all that stuff. But I guess when you're a rock and roller, a songwriter, a singer and you're writing from the heart and everything, you end up sharing it.

Speaker 1:

It sounded like maybe he had some regrets about the level of father. He was right. That's kind of what they said in the trailer, I think. And here he is making good to his kids they're part of his band now, you know. It's like he's doing his best. We all do our best.

Speaker 2:

We all try to do our best, without a doubt. So Cracker Full Band that night. They were fantastic. They always are fantastic every time I see them. Definitely enjoyed it and then went back to where I was staying, went to sleep to get up the next day to go see Johnny Hickman do a little solo thing at Hendershot's in Athens and Anne Harris joined and played a couple of songs with him. And then that night it's Is.

Speaker 1:

Anne Harris, the violinist.

Speaker 2:

I apologize, she is and was fantastic. You know, the night before with the full band was fantastic with Johnny, with the two songs, and then that night is the full band again at 41. And after four days it's like, oh my God, I just can't wait to get back and go to sleep. It was just so much but it was a really fun time. I really enjoyed it and um I look forward to doing it again next year.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so you're becoming a crumb.

Speaker 2:

You know what, if that's what it takes, but it was a lot of fun. It really was. I enjoyed it Good, and I enjoyed my time with you, me too, I know, yeah, we got to hang out a good bit. Oh, I got to meet the drummer from the Violets Jimmy's band from back in the day.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he was very upset that I had not told him about music. In my shoes. He gave me the two-finger salute, saying why did you not tell me you have a music podcast? And I just neglected to tell him. But he's great. Jay has a record label in Athens called Propeller Recordings and they're putting out all these great old Athens bands and some new ones.

Speaker 2:

And then I got introduced to another guy that was in an Athens band, Trent.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, Trent from Dreams, so Real.

Speaker 2:

So got to meet a bunch of people over the last couple of weekends out there in Athens. I got to be honest with you. I was surprised that I did meet a bunch of people that I didn't know who they were, but they knew who I was and that was kind of cool so I had fun with that.

Speaker 2:

You're famous man? I don't think that I'm famous, oh come on. So for those of you that cannot see me, I am wearing a 40-watt shirt, so the 40-watt black shirts. When I went to buy one, the lady says the guy before you just bought the last extra large. And I'm like, oh my Lord, and she did everything to put the sale on me, to sell me this one. Okay, so this one. And Jimmy, you can see it, don't say anything about it. Yet While it is on the wall, it is a white t-shirt, absolutely With black lettering. Yeah, is the way that I saw it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it really is Okay and she's really trying to make the sale, and she pulls it down and she gets her phone and uses the light and says look, it's in purple. And I look and I can't really tell, but it looks like the 40-watt insignia. The logo is in purple.

Speaker 1:

Uh-huh.

Speaker 2:

I got out of the club and all of a sudden I'm walking and I realized Jimmy, what color is this shirt? Lilac it is not the color that I thought that it was going to be at all, and I'm so glad that you saw it on the wall and thought that it was white also.

Speaker 1:

I did and I was going to, because I gave my brother a 40-watt T-shirt for his birthday, which was a couple of days ago. Happy birthday. And yeah, john, who's been on the show? Oh, yes, and uh, I was. They were out of black at the same time that you were trying to get a black one, and then my wife was there and she clued me in. She said, oh, somebody just said that one is lavender. It's not white, it looks white but it's lavender.

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm going to try and wear it well.

Speaker 1:

So you know, I did that the first time at the 40 Watt for the REM show, and then the following week they had black ones back in stock. So that's when I got John's shirt. There you go, that they had black ones back in stock so that's when I got John's shirt. There you go. That was smart, but it looks really good on you. You know, it's kind of like wear it with pride.

Speaker 2:

I look like.

Speaker 1:

Barney Real. Men wear periwinkle.

Speaker 2:

Hey, jimmy, let's revisit some great music from the past. All right, let's start up with Peter Murphy. Cut you Up. First week of March 1990, wdre Shriek of the Week. Best new song on WDRE. In my opinion it's the most popular Peter Murphy song.

Speaker 1:

You know solo song.

Speaker 2:

You know he was the former singer for Bauhaus post-punk. You know very different. We've talked about Bela Lugosi's Dead before and this was just like a straight-up song singing it and acoustic guitar. And I think that a lot of people listen to this that had no idea about Bauhaus, no idea about his past. They just heard a song that sounded good and they enjoyed it. It came in at number 55 on the Billboard Hot 100 in May of 1990. All right, calming song, to me very calming song.

Speaker 2:

Depeche Mode Violator album came out March 19th 1990. Now this album is an album that brought a whole new set of fans to Depeche Mode and I, like you know it's kind of pre-violator, post-violator, because so many people they heard this became Depeche Mode. Fans Didn't know a song before but this album changed everything for them. Personal Jesus was the shriek the second week of August 1989, and it peaked at number 28 on the Billboard 100 March 3rd of 1990. That's a pretty long period between DRE playing it and it peaking on Billboard. Lift up the receiver, I'll make you a believer. Remember that, jimmy.

Speaker 1:

I don't remember those lyrics, but I remember the song.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my Lord, you're going to have to listen on your way home. Dangerous, it was a B-side of personal Jesus single. It was the shriek, the second week of October 1989. Enjoy the silence. Words like violence, break the silence. Shriek, the second week of February 1990. And then it peaked at number eight, july 14th 1990, on billboard Policy of truth. Never again is what you swore the time before. Fourth week of March 1990. It's the shriek of the week. Peaked at number 15. And in October 1990, on billboard Waiting for the Night was the Shriek of the Week, the fifth week of March. So basically, you are going here. It's just Depeche Mode Shriek of the Week. Shriek of the Week. Like everybody was voting for them, they were just enamored with this album, you know Mm-hmm. So world in my eyes? Wait a minute.

Speaker 1:

Everybody was voting for them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so the Shriek of the Week you would vote. It would be the listeners. The listeners would call up and they would play. You know, I don't remember exactly, but it was like maybe 10 to 15 songs, and then you would vote on which song you thought was the best.

Speaker 1:

And that was true back in the LIR Screamer of the Week.

Speaker 2:

Yes, from the LIR Screamer of the Week to the DRE Shriek of the Week, that's how it would be. And fans just were going crazy and just calling up and calling up. World in my Eyes week, second week of April 1990, peaked at number 12, december of 1990. Halo Shriek, the third week of May 1990, just an album track that most people wouldn't know. I mean it was just crazy, crazy how popular this album was. Nine songs, six of them are Shriek of the Weeks on DRA and that's people again voting for them that they think that's the best song of the week. So definitely changed a lot for them. For Depeche Mode, speaking of changing Mike Watt, ball Hog or Tugboat came out February 28th 1995. And I know a bunch of you are saying who the heck is Mike Watt.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I know, I know.

Speaker 2:

He's the bass player for the California punk band Minutemen. He was also in— Firehouse yes, and I figured you would know that for sure. Yes, and I figured you would know that for sure. So Ball Hog of Tug Boats, first solo album, and he just gets all of his friends and musicians that were influenced by the bands that he was in and he just gets them all on the album. There's so many people on this album so he had I think there was like three singles and the first single was Big Train. It's got him on vocals. He was only on vocals, I believe, for two songs, so it's got him on vocals. And Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam is on vocals with him playing guitar. Jay Maskis of Dinosaur Jr lead guitar, chris and Kurt Kirkwood banjo and lead guitar, also both from the Meat Puppets Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

And it was only a few months earlier that they performed with Nirvana on the MTV Unplugged show. Here they are with Mike Watt and it's just a cool song. You know Mike Watt singing it, A lot of bass, because he's a bass player. It's cool. Then the other big song that was played on the radio here in Atlanta well, 99x Radio here in Atlanta, that was really the only other station that was playing anything was Against the 70s Mike Watt on bass, eddie Vedder, lead vocals and guitar, dave Grohl of Nirvana and Foo Fighters on drums, gary Lee Connor of Screaming Trees on lead guitar, chris Novoselic of Nirvana on the Farfisa organ. I mean it is just so cool, it really is and there's like I don't know 17 songs or something like that, and each song is like that Beastie Boys are on it with different members of the Beastie Boys and just different members of all these bands and it's a pretty cool album. So Mike Watt, he tours in early 1995. They played at the Masquerade the Masquerade Music Park, I think actually is what they played at and he had Eddie Vedder on guitar and vocals, pat Smear of the Germs Nirvana on guitar, william Goldsmith of Sunny Day Real Estate and Foo Fighters on drums and Dave Grohl on guitar and drums.

Speaker 2:

So Mike Watt was really smart when he picked these opening bands, because Grohl, goldsmith and Smear were in the Foo Fighters, who were one of the opening bands, and Eddie Vedder he was playing with a side project with his wife at the time, hovercraft. So those were the two bands opening and then he took members from them to be his backup band. So from an expense purpose, he did a good job with it. So, hey, you know what Speaking of good job? According to my watch, it's Minute with Jimmy. It's time for Minute with Jimmy. Good job with it. So, hey, you know what? Speaking of good job? According to my watch, it's Minute with Jimmy. It's time for Minute with Jimmy. Minute with Jimmy. Minute with Jimmy. It's time for Minute with Jimmy.

Speaker 1:

Minute with Jimmy. Minute with Jimmy. All right, there's an album that just came out this past week by the Vapors. Vapors are a British post-punk band and they put out an album in 2020 and they just put out another one this year. It's fantastic. It's got some really great kind of inspiring songs on it. Lead singer's voice still sounds amazing. It's called Wasp in a Jar. Hit the Ground Running is the lead single on it, but I really like Carry On Nothing Can Stop Us. Now it Gets Better and the last song is called Proud and it sounds like he's talking to his parents, who are no longer with him, and saying you know, if you could see me now, would it make you proud? And that's something a lot of us can relate to. So you might remember the Vapors from their 1980, 45 years ago single, turning Japanese. I have an interesting story about Turning Japanese that I found out when I was kind of researching this minute with Jimmy that they couldn't get a record label. Their manager was Bruce Foxton from the Jam. Right right, bruce Foxton from the jam.

Speaker 2:

Right right.

Speaker 1:

And Paul Weller's dad, the singer, guitar player from the jam's father. So Foxton and Weller's father were the managers of the Vapors. They couldn't get him a record deal. Finally, a producer said, okay, I'll do Turning Japanese. I think we can do something with that song, but we need to restructure it. I've got a bunch of changes they need to make to it. So they agreed to make all the changes. He recorded it. It went to number three in England, number one in Australia, number 36 in America, but it turned out to be their only hit.

Speaker 2:

And it was a good hit because I think most people still remember that song.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely.

Speaker 2:

Very good, that was a great minute with Jimmy, thank you. I'll have to check that album out. Hey, before we go, I want to mention the 80s cruise, jimmy. It had Squeeze Men at Work, adam Ant and a bunch of others that were on it, and I think it just took off out of like Miami, like February 27th or something. It's like a week-long cruise, and my buddy and his wife were on the cruise. They've been going for a number of years now. Say it's a good time, it's fun. I believe he's already booked for 2026. Like they already have. Who's going to be on the ship a year in advance, which is some pretty good marketing, because they get you to sign up and it's a couple hundred dollars less per person if you've been on it before. So now, while you're having a great time, you think this is the best thing in the world. Boom, let's sign you up for next year also.

Speaker 2:

And my buddy, he does it, him and his wife they love it. So rock band Faster Pussycat were on the cruise as well when tragedy struck and I don't know if you heard about this, I did. It's awful Lead singer tamed down and his fiance, kimberly Birch, had a heated argument and moments later she ends up jumping off the ship and there's video of it now that has been turned over to the police. You know, according to TMZ it's you know, it's clear cut that she got up on the rail and she stepped off of it and it's sad. I mean, it's really sad that even on a ship that's supposed to be full of fun and everything that sometimes people have moments that are breaking for them and I find that really sad for them and, you know, hopefully for her family.

Speaker 2:

You know they can figure out how to deal with this and I know that it's no fun for them. You know I've had some friends that have done some similar things and it's very tough on everybody.

Speaker 1:

No, absolutely.

Speaker 2:

So you know, the ship stopped for a couple of hours, according to my buddy, but then you know it's a big ocean, they couldn't find her and then it just becomes you know, a job for you know the police and the Coast Guard and whoever to you know try and find her and she still has not been found as of this point Right. So, again, super sad. You know, if you're out there and you need to talk to someone, find someone to talk to, because there's better things that we can choose to do. I know that it can be tough for everybody, but we got to be there and help each other For sure. That's it for Episode 70 of Music in my Shoes.

Speaker 2:

I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of Arcade 160 Studios located here in Atlanta, georgia, and Vic Thrill for our podcast music. If you want to contact us, you can at musicinmyshoes at gmailcom. Please like and follow the Music in my Shoes Facebook and Instagram pages and please share the podcast with your friends. Let your friends hear what you are hearing and what you're enjoying. Let them enjoy it as well. This is Jim Boge, and I hope you learned something new or remembered something old. We'll meet again on our next episode. Until then, live life and keep the music playing. Enjoy the silence.

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