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E81 The Goonies, a Psychedelic Rolls, and Wooly Bully
Travel back to June 1965 when John Lennon first received his black Rolls-Royce Phantom V limousine – a vehicle destined to become an icon of rock history. We trace the fascinating journey from luxury transport to psychedelic art piece with its famous yellow paint job and swirling patterns.
We celebrate the 40th anniversary of "The Goonies," exploring this beloved adventure film, unpacking memories of its cast including Sean Astin and Josh Brolin before they became household names.
The episode also honors recently departed Rick Derringer, whose musical legacy spans from The McCoys' "Hang On Sloopy" to his solo work and career producing albums. We revisit unexpected hits like Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs' "Wooly Bully" and explore the emotional depth behind Concrete Blonde's "Joey."
Through personal stories, obscure trivia, and musical memories, we connect these seemingly disconnected cultural touchstones into a rich tapestry that illuminates how art, film, and music intertwine to create the soundtrack of our lives. Whether you're a Beatles aficionado, 80s movie buff, or simply appreciate the stories behind the songs, this episode offers fresh perspectives on beloved classics.
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He's got the feeling in his toe-toe.
Speaker 2:He's got the feeling and it's out there growing. Hey everybody, this is Jim Boge, and you're listening to Music In my Shoes. That was Vic Thrill kicking off episode 81. As always, I'm thrilled to be here with you. Let's learn something new or remember something old. On June 3rd 1965, john Lennon took delivery of a black Rolls-Royce Phantom 5 limousine. You know what they look like, jimmy.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Okay, it's a limousine and it's made by Rolls Royce.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:It's about 19 feet. It's probably a little bit more than that. It's close to 20 feet long and it was pretty cool and it came in the normal color of black.
Speaker 2:That was the main matte black was the color that they would get and from 1959 until 1968, less than 520 Phantom 5 limousines were produced, and that's about 52 a year. I mean there's not many of them. He had ordered it in December. He takes delivery of it the beginning of June. June 3rd Took a while. Wow, yeah, A lot of craftsmanship went into it yeah, handmade.
Speaker 2:Literally handmade, I kid you, not 1966, he takes the limo to Spain while he's filming the movie how I Won the War. And I'm going to be honest with you, I am a huge Beatles fan, big John Lennon fan. You know love, all the things that all the Beatles have done solo, have seen Let it Be. I've seen Help, I've seen Hard Day's Night, yellow Submarine, you know, anthology documentary. I mean everything, get back, get back everything. But I have never seen how I Won the War. I have to be honest with you, I haven't either.
Speaker 2:I have never seen it and it just surprises me that I haven't even made the attempt to see it. It's not even like oh, let me look it up. It's not like I haven't seen it in my lifetime because I couldn't see it. It's not even like oh, let me look it up. It's not like I haven't seen it in my lifetime because I couldn't see it. I just never have Very, very strange. So he films it in Spain and right before he goes he has some work done on the car and he has the back seat made into a like a pullout double bed, I believe it is, or full bed double bed, I don't remember so that when he's going to film he can go into his car and can kind of hang out there.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And if he wants to take a nap, he can take a nap. So you know downtime, you know it's. Hey, I want to get away from everything. I don't think, where they were filming that they had all these star trailers and things that they have today when they're making films. You, know, Right. So the terrain in Spain, am I supposed to say, falls mainly on the plane?
Speaker 1:or something. Yes, that's the other line. Yeah, falls mainly on the plane or something. Yes, that's the other line, yeah.
Speaker 2:The terrain in Spain damaged the vehicle and he decided to repaint it. And he ends up picking that yellow color with the psychedelic paint job with the swirls and like the floral I don't want to say floral arrangements but floral designs and so forth and he wanted it looking like a car that was straight out of the Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club band. The maiden voyage with the new paint was only a couple of days after the album comes out and he was going to an album release party and grabbed a bunch of people and they're in the car and no one had seen this. I mean, no one did anything like this to a Rolls Royce Of course.
Speaker 2:You know. So in 1977, john donates the car to a museum for a tax credit. You know artists weren't making a ton of money back in the day. You know, in the 50s, 60s, 70s, you know the 80s, beginning of the 80s, they weren't making a ton of money. Even people you know, like John Lennon, he hadn't performed live in quite some time. You know, it was.
Speaker 2:You know, it wasn't like he was out there and always on the road he wasn't doing tours, so all of that money that wasn't coming in at all. So he needs a tax credit. But the other thing, and this is my opinion, 1977, the whole psychedelic thing is way gone. Like that limo kind of is an eyesore probably to some people. Not so much what I think of it, you know, like I think it's super cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was dated, at best.
Speaker 2:Great, great word, for it dated so 20 years after Lennon got the car and 40 years ago, which is, you know, kind of cool. The math is all. Even there, the museum that he donated to sold it for over $2 million. Now he got a tax credit somewhere. They actually were fighting over the tax credit. He wanted like $250,000. The IRS said it was only worth $100,000. And it went on.
Speaker 2:For years after his death they were still arguing, from 1977, how much this car really was worth, and it didn't matter that as time went on, in 1985 that they sold it for over $2 million, it was what was it worth in 1977. Ah, crazy, you know. So it got donated again. It's part of the Royal British Columbia Museum in Canada and they don't bring it out a ton because the yellow that they painted it is actually latex house paint, what they did not use automobile paint, and I don't know the differences. I'm not going to pretend to know the differences, but I know what latex house paint is okay, and they did these designs on it. They can't, you know, they can't like, wipe the car down, they can't take a cloth over it and do stuff.
Speaker 2:And if something happens, they have to use, you know, small little brushes to fix it, so they don't have it on display a whole lot. But I'll tell you that would be a really cool car to see. There's a really cool picture, a photo that you know I don't know exactly what year it is, but it's John and his oldest son, julian, when Julian was just a little kid, and they're like standing next to it. And you know I was like man, I wish my dad owned a Rolls Royce that was painted like this and I could have my picture taken next to it. But you know that didn't happen. But I've always been like fascinated with that car and you know, here we are. It's 60 years after he first bought it.
Speaker 1:Very cool.
Speaker 2:Very cool, thank you, thank you. So in June 7th 1985, 40 years ago, the movie the Goonies was released. Now, jimmy, I've asked you a number of times about movies. Have you seen them? Have you not? I have not seen the Goonies. Oh, my Lord, oh Lord, you have not seen the Goonies. Yeah, I don't know why I don't know. I mean I'm dumbfounded.
Speaker 1:Was it like Corey Haim and stuff? Who was in that? No, no.
Speaker 2:It was not Corey Haim, it was Corey Feldman, yeah.
Speaker 1:I was pretty close. So, one of the.
Speaker 2:Corys was in it. It had Sean Astin. He was in it. He was actually the main character and he was in what was that trilogy that I've never seen? Lord of the Rings, oh right, which I've never seen. He was in that. His brother was played by a young Josh Brolin. Again, remember this is 40 years ago. Yeah, corey Feldman was in there. It's funny because his name in the movie is Mouth, and when I think of Corey Feldman, that's exactly what I think of him, as I don't mean that to be disrespectful, it just is how.
Speaker 1:I think of him you know.
Speaker 2:Martha Plimpton was in it. John Matuszak, the football player, was in it. He played like a semi-monster. I forget what the name of it was Joe Pantolano. He has been in a million movies and when you see him, Isn't he the one from Risky Business, guido the Killer Pimp? That might have been him, jimmy, it was for sure. So he is in a ton of movies and you don't necessarily know him, but you see him like. If you see him immediately, like, oh, I know who that is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was in the Matrix too. He was the guy I'm sorry for spoilers here, but he's the guy that kind of like was the turncoat in the Matrix.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm sure that that's not really a spoiler alert at this point.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Okay, I think that's good, but he's in it. There's a guy, jeff Cohen. He plays this character, this boy named Chunk, and it's really he does a great job in the movie. Like he plays this character, this boy named chunk, and it's really he does a great job in the movie. Like he plays this obnoxious I'm starving, I always have to eat, I have to run my mouth, I can't keep quiet and he plays the part well. But it was really his only like big film part, like he just that wasn't what he ended up doing, but he does a great job in this movie. And there's a bunch of other people. The lady from Throw Mama from a Train is in it.
Speaker 1:Gina Davis.
Speaker 2:No, the lady, the old lady. Oh right that she died just a few years after this movie came out and I can't think of her name off the top of my head, but it's a pretty cool movie it is. It's a much better movie in the movie theater.
Speaker 2:You know how there's some movies you see in the theater and you're like, wow, this is. You know, it's pretty cool and one of the things I like about it is there's a lot of outdoor shots and they're all filmed on location. It's in. Takes place in in oregon. I struggle saying that word you did it really well.
Speaker 2:You didn't have to say that I normally say oregon, uh, and then people like gone where? But uh, so it takes place in a town called astoria, which is a real town and not everything was filmed at that place. But they do a good job. I like when they do outside shots and it doesn't look fake, that it looks kind of cool, it looks realistic and you know this takes place like a seaside town and you just see things in the background that make you think it is a seaside town. So the premise of this movie is Mikey, in his attic they find like a map and it has to do with a treasure map of you know this story that had been going on for years and passed from generation to generation about one-eyed Willie and you know all this craziness. And they end up getting involved with going to find it and clues and they run into the Fratelli gang that is trying to do the same thing. And you know it's just a it's, you know, action-packed, it's a comedy, it's, it's adventurous.
Speaker 1:I mean it's.
Speaker 2:You know it's cool Again. 40 years ago when it came out, it was great watching it on the big screen.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry I missed it. You know, I wish I'd seen it back then.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can see In the theater. I can see by the look on your face that you're sorry that you missed it.
Speaker 1:I'm really, really regretting it.
Speaker 2:Oh my Lord, I need boots now. Oh my Lord, I need boots now. So the one thing about this movie which I find is funny is we talked a few episodes ago about Girls Just Want to have Fun, which was based, you know, very loosely on the Cyndi Lauper song Girls Just Want to have Fun, that she didn't want to have anything to do with the movie, even though she was in like one tiny little scene. I guess she decides, you know, let me change my mind. Well, for this movie she writes a song called the Goonies Are Good Enough.
Speaker 1:Oh, I remember that. Yeah, you do yeah.
Speaker 2:This song peaked at number 10 on the Billboard Hot 100, july 13th 1985, which is Live Aid Day. I cannot believe that this song made the top 100 at all. It's not one of her better songs. It almost reminds me of Girls Just Wanna have Fun with some different words.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's very generic, you know to me, yeah, it's very generic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it really is, but it made it to number 10. I mean, I find that just, you know, amusing almost 1985 was weird. It was, it was, there wasn't a lot of good stuff on the radio.
Speaker 2:No, I agree with you. I agree with you. A lot of good stuff on the radio. No, I agree with you. I agree with you. So a side story is that in New York City they have the New Year's Eve ball drop every year. Right, and my brother, who shall remain nameless, we'll call him John Doe he worked for the company that would drop the ball and every New Year's Eve he worked.
Speaker 2:You know, 20 years, I don't remember exactly how long, but usually if you watched the show you know one of the New Year's Rockin' Eve shows Dick Clark or you know before Ryan Seacrest or whatever you would see they would show him and some workers you know before Ryan Seacrest or whatever you would see, they would show him and some workers you know working on the ball or with a celebrity or whatever. And one year they were taking pictures beforehand. They were doing pre-shots of Cyndi Lauper. She was going to be like the host of live in New York City there, like she would talk to the crowd, which you don't normally see. You only see what they show you on TV.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:And they were going to take these pictures and she's like, well, I don't want to be in them alone. And she ended up taking my brother and one of the guys he worked with and the publicity picture is the three of them and it was published in Jimmy, I don't remember, but it was either the Daily News or the New York Post, one of those papers.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And they had it in there, and that was my brother's big claim, my brother John Doe, by the way, his big claim to fame.
Speaker 1:Does he still have a copy of the picture?
Speaker 2:I asked him recently and he said he does not. Oh, that's too bad.
Speaker 1:Yes, you can look him up, probably online, if you knew when it was from.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that I'm going to try and do that. See if I can get it. I think that would be cool to have. He actually has a picture. I have it too. When Dick Clark passed away the following New Year's Eve, they had his widow. His wife came up to where they dropped the ball to see everything and while she's looking at stuff he's right there with her and he has this picture with her as well, mrs Dick Clark. So some cool stuff. And again, my brother's name is John Doe, in case anyone was asking. But I just think that's kind of cool, this little side note thing with Cyndi Lauper.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, cyndi, you know, did I ever tell you I worked with Cyndi Lauper? It was my first production assistant job in New York City, working on a Cyndi Lauper music video.
Speaker 2:How old would you have been at this time?
Speaker 1:I was like 23, I think Wow, and she was super sweet and there were all these neighborhood kids we were shooting in Queens and it was her old neighborhood and so all the neighborhood kids would come over and she would just take time and play with them and talk to them and everything. So she's a nice lady.
Speaker 2:That's very cool. Was it a video that we saw?
Speaker 1:lady. That's very cool. Was it a video that we saw? The song was called Sally's Pigeons. I actually looked it up, or actually like I bought the VHS on eBay one time, like 15 years ago, just so I could see it. But it's probably maybe that was 20 years ago before YouTube, but I'm sure it's on YouTube, yeah.
Speaker 2:Now, maybe if she had named it Sally's Pigeons are Good Enough, it could have made it to the billboard yeah, probably would have hit number 10. Possibility? I'm not really sure, but that's a cool story. That really is, isn't that funny, seriously, isn't it funny? I have a Cyndi Lauper story to tell and you have a Cyndi Lauper story to tell that we don't know about these stories. I think that's super cool.
Speaker 1:She's a real New Yorker.
Speaker 2:She is, you know. You said it was in Queens.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean so everybody has a different accent, you know, depending on where you are. She definitely has the Queens accent, there's no joking about that whatsoever, yep. So yeah, the Goonies are good enough, but you know what? We're all good enough, Jimmy. We're all good enough.
Speaker 1:That's right.
Speaker 2:Jimmy, I can't believe this has come up again, but Zach Starkey, the drummer of the who, has been fired again.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's exactly what I thought. It's a very odd story that just won't go away and the oddest part about it is, in the big scheme of things, like does anybody really care? But it's the way that it's happening that makes it a story. I like him. I've seen the who a bunch of times with zach starkey. I like the whole story.
Speaker 2:We talked about him, you know, uh, getting his first drum kid from keith moon, who was the original drummer of the who. You know, I like it and stuff. But I'm talking about the general public, is it? It something big? I think it's big because of the way that they're going about this whole thing. So he claims he was asked to say he quit the band this time and he said I'm not doing that, I would never quit on the who. I love the who and I'm not sure what it is, but there always feels like there's more with this story and I'm not. I don't know why. And I say that because now Zach is saying he had a good phone call with Roger Daltrey, the singer of the who, and he was not fired, but he was retired.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:What does that mean, he?
Speaker 1:took a package.
Speaker 2:They've retired him so he could work on his own solo stuff. Yeah, I'm sure we will hear more about this somewhere down the road and we will bring it up again, because this is a story that just won't go away so who's playing drums now? The drummer's going to. I don't know his name, but he's roger daltry, solo drummer. So when roger is out touring solo, he's got this guy.
Speaker 1:It's crazy, yeah well yeah you know, it seems like it's kind of stealing the thunder of this whole Last who tour, or maybe it's giving them more publicity, I don't know.
Speaker 2:That's a good question. Only Roger and Pete know, right. So, hey, jimmy, do you know what time it is? What time? Music in my shoes, mailbag time.
Speaker 1:Oh Music in my shoes. Mailbag.
Speaker 2:I love that song, Jimmy.
Speaker 1:I do too. You know, did we ever tell people? You know I wrote that in about what 10 minutes you did. You came in and needed a mailbag jingle and I was like, all right, let me do something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was kind of watching you and you were doing what it is that you do. Kind of watching you and you were doing what it is that you do and, like, when you're doing it, you have. No, I have no idea what the end result is going to be when you're doing it.
Speaker 1:Did you know that's how it's going to turn out, sort of. Yeah, I'm kind of chasing it, you know, seeing where it goes, and I have a general idea and yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did not not at all, and I have a general idea and yeah, yeah, I did not Not at all, None whatsoever. Nor did I have any idea what was going to happen when we did the Call an Oat song that. No idea that it was going to come out like a professional song. Oh, that was so professional With my unprofessional voice, but it was pretty good that you came up with.
Speaker 1:That's very flattering that you call that professional.
Speaker 2:Well, it was, if you listen to it. Okay, you know what that could make the Billboard Top 10 if Cyndi Lauper can do the Goonies Are Good Enough. That song, callin' Oats. I heard Callin' Oats. We called Callin' Oats. I think that's what the name of the song is. We called Call oats. I think that's what the name of the song is. We called calling oats.
Speaker 1:That can make it. Let's go ahead and play a snippet of that for the audience, just so they remember what we're talking about.
Speaker 2:Okay, that sounds good Calling oats calling oats.
Speaker 2:We just rang up calling oats, calling oats, calling oats, we just rang up calling oats. You better try it, you should try it. We calling notes. You better try it, you should try it, we try, we call calling notes. I posted a video of the rem reunion from the 40 watt club on social media. They played at the 40 watt club on february 28th 2025 and they did a version of pretty Persuasion. And I looked the other day and I saw that it had 7,500 views on the Facebook page for Music in my Shoes.
Speaker 1:Oh cool.
Speaker 2:And I just thought that was super cool. You know that there's that many people that have looked at it, have watched it and you know got to see what. Only you know less than 500 of us, because we were there together you know got to view in person that 7,500 people 7,000 more than what was there. Have seen the video.
Speaker 1:They're a popular band, though, yeah. Well, I just thought, but no, it's very cool. I thought it had something to do with my phone techniques as I filmed I remember how still you were standing and you were really like you were a cinematographer. There's no dancing, there's no foot tapping, you were just getting it in frame I can't disagree with you, jimmy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, was exactly like that, like. I wanted it as perfect as I could make it, you know. So Jenna in Ohio, love this, brilliant. Danilo in Puerto Rico says fantastico. David in Ireland awesome. And I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing this next name right, but Jadwiga in Warsaw, Poland, A wonderful. Michael Karen in Cleveland Love this, and I think it's really cool that we got a bunch of people from all across the world all across the globe watch the video and want to comment, so that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1:That says a lot about REM too. They have international appeal.
Speaker 2:Oh, they really do.
Speaker 1:They do for sure, and for those people that don't speak Spanish, fantástico means fantastic in English. I took a little Spanish.
Speaker 2:I could see it was a little Whoa. Oh, jimmy, let's move to episode 75. Fantastic, oh my Lord. All right, I'm back.
Speaker 2:Ladies and gentlemen, I apologize for that, but Jimmy, just he cracks me up at times and that was definitely one of them. Episode 75, billboard hits of April 1975, the Pinball Wizard and Tommy. So a mutual friend we've talked about him before, rob. He calls me after this episode and he's like hey, the Jimmy Castor bunch, and that's the one song that went number 16 on the April 1975 billboard, the Birth of Boogie, that I had never heard before. And he's like hey, is the album cover? A guy in like a Superman-looking suit. And I'm like shocked. I'm like, yeah, it is. He's like I remember it, my grandfather had the album. I'm like your grandfather, like I was just absolutely floored when I had this conversation with him that he's like, yeah, my grandfather had that album. And I just can't believe anybody knew, because I asked people that I know not a single person that I asked myself had heard of the song, heard of the band, heard of the album.
Speaker 2:I never heard nothing, any of it, so he seems to be the only person that knows anything about it. But on that episode also this guy, arthur, writes I have that Benny Bell LP. That's when we talk about the song Shaving Cream on the same thing, Like you know, that's super cool.
Speaker 2:I mean I know the song. I didn't know anyone that had the record, but this guy, arthur, says that he had it. So, commenting on Tommy from the same episode, jackie of Farmingdale, new York, says Saw the play in the 90s and last year in New York City. Too bad, it closed so quickly. Pete was there the night. We went just a few seats away Was great, both times Very cool. We went just a few seats away was great, both times very cool. John mark writes when tommy was released on the big screen, I saw it six times. Cheryl in chico, california, says we saw the movie back then and also had the album Very cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, the amount of people.
Speaker 2:Barbara comments beginning of Tommy is really good, then after a while it goes south and I think that was kind of what I was saying when we were talking about it. Walter in Pontiac Illinois when I hear Pontiac I always think of Michigan, but Walter in Pontiac Illinois, it is difficult. The music is enjoyable.
Speaker 2:Yeah so you know there's. You know both ends of the spectrum of of the movie, the play and so forth, and you know the song pinball wizard. That song is a highlight, as well as when they're actually performing it in the movie. The beginning of the movie I agree with the one person it was good. When it starts off it's like yeah, and then it just kind of goes a different way. Episode 77, I Should have Known Better. Glass Houses and Damaged Goods. Tim in Los Angeles posted photos of himself on our Facebook page where he's at the actual Billy Joel home and he does a great job of reenacting, holding a rock, like he's going to throw it into the glass.
Speaker 1:Oh cool yeah.
Speaker 2:And he took it when the home was for sale so you could get up and see it and I just a great job Like. If you look at the Facebook page and you see him, you're like man, that's just like the album.
Speaker 1:Right. Oh, that's awesome.
Speaker 2:So he put a number of things there, but one of them he's actually in the house, so you see him through the glass. You know a bunch of different things. Sam in Tylertown, mississippi, says Glass Houses is probably one of his best albums. A lot of great songs on it. I agree with that. I posted a video from this episode also. Gang of Four with Mike Mills of REM covering Velvet Underground's Sweet Jane. It's had 4,500 views Again. I think that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1:I really do.
Speaker 2:Robert in California, comments sucks butchering. Lou Reed's classic and I responded with Sweet Jane is a tough song to cover. I thought they did a good job with it. It's one of the reasons that I posted it I thought it was good.
Speaker 1:Why do you think it's tough to cover?
Speaker 2:I think that when you're covering it the way that the Velvet Underground does it, it's not like a singing song, but it is. It's in between. It's like a tough thing to do and I've seen many bands try to cover it that haven't done a good job.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're either kind of trying to sound like Lou Reed talking or you're singing it and making it into something that it wasn't.
Speaker 2:And that would really be a good explanation. You know what?
Speaker 1:the best cover of it is Cowboy Junkies. You ever heard that one?
Speaker 2:I have, but actually I think Phish has the best cover of it. I think, Phish has done a great job with it. The Cowboy Junkies version is great. I love it.
Speaker 1:Well, they made it different, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you know they cut out like the beginning of the song and kind of start off with yeah, like sort of the bridge, yeah. It's good. I like it. Phish's version is unbelievable. It's really really good.
Speaker 1:I've never heard anyone. You know, I don't know, I didn't realize Phish was good at covers.
Speaker 2:They actually are. We can talk about good at covers. They actually are. We can talk about that. One time they actually covered a whole Velvet Underground album. What they did a Talking Heads album. They did the Beatles. That's just off of the top of my head that I can think of. They would do it on Halloween and on Halloween shows. That's what they would do, is they would play. That's pretty cool. You get a chance. It's very good.
Speaker 1:That's kind of like what the Yacht Rock Band here in Atlanta does Yacht Rock Review. They'll do like the White Album or Abbey Road or Prince Purple Rain yeah.
Speaker 2:Very cool, very cool. So, by the way, robert Lou is spelled L-O-U, not L-U-E, sue is spelled.
Speaker 1:L-O-U, not L-U-E. Hey, you know, spelling's not everyone's thing, Jim. I know, but I don't think they butchered the cover of the Velvet Underground's Sweet Chain Sue spelled S-U-E in Amityville, new York. S-o-u no.
Speaker 2:Loved how we ended the episode with the TV sign-off.
Speaker 1:It was very Ferris Bueller and that's it for the mailbag Music in my shoes. Mailbag.
Speaker 2:Let's revisit some music from the past. Okay, sam the Sham and the Pharaohs. Okay, sam the Sham and the Pharaohs. Wooly Bully peaks at number two on the Billboard Hot 100, june 5th 1965. Maddie told Hattie about a thing she saw had two big horns and a woolly jaw Wooly Bully. I've never known more than a few words of this song until I looked up the words for this episode.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I had no idea. It said that.
Speaker 2:I have been singing this song for however long, just making words up like I thought that they were making words up and you didn't know the words either. No, have you ever played this? I know that you're. You know bands and so forth.
Speaker 1:No, nothing Never done, wooly Bully.
Speaker 2:I'm surprised.
Speaker 1:I've done Monster Mash, if we're talking like novelty songs, right, yeah, I did that at Halloween one time.
Speaker 2:There you go. This was the number one song of 1965. It's crazy, it is crazy the number one song of 1965. It's crazy, it is crazy the number one song of 1965.
Speaker 1:What is that? The Beatles put out like two or three albums in 1965, and this was the number one song.
Speaker 2:This was the number one song. Yeah, it was actually banned on some radio stations because they thought the song contained certain illicit lyrics Like what, what lyrics do you hear? Because I have listened to this song specifically trying to hear whatever they heard, and I don't hear it. I mean, can you imagine that you can't play Wooly Bully because it's got bad words in it? Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, there's no bad words in it, none whatsoever.
Speaker 1:Maybe because the lyrics are so hard to understand. People would kind of it's like a Rorschach test. You know, when you see the inkblot, oh, people like hallucinate bad words in it.
Speaker 2:You think it's kind of like we've talked before when people don't know what the words are. Hold me closer, tiny dancer. And you know I said it in a way so that people might say, no, it's hold me closer, tony Danza. You know, like you think, maybe it's that that you think you hear it because people are saying this and it's crazy.
Speaker 2:So Rick Derringer, formerly of the McCoys and a solo artist, died on May 26, 2025. When I was like 12 years old, I got a copy Well, not a copy, I got the original 45 of the McCoys' Hang On, sloopy. You know they start off there. It's like they're banging on a door, you know it's like knocking, you know, as they play. Sloopy lives in a very bad part of town and everybody, yeah, tries to put my sloopy down, jimmy.
Speaker 2:This is another one of those songs that young jim would listen to over and over again, playing the air guitar, thinking I'm gonna be a rock and roll star and learning every word because I could understand the words, and singing them and trying to be raspy when he's raspy. I think he was only about 17, rick Derringer, when this song came out and I would listen to this over and over and it was one of the things that I know that I talk about being young. It wasn't a new song, but it was a new song to me and having that 45 record and just listening to it over and over and over, it peaked at number one on the Billboard Hot 100 60 years ago, on October 2nd 1965. I can't believe that. That's just insane when you think about it, you know.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's an old song.
Speaker 2:I know, but I still can't believe it's 60 years ago. So Rick Derringer also sang rock and roll. Hoochie Coo, probably his signature song.
Speaker 2:That came out in 1973. That's a great song it is. You know he actually he was in not to go off on a tangent but he was in the Edgar Winter Band and he was in the Johnny Winter Band. One was Edgar Winter Group, maybe, and Johnny Winter Band. They were brothers and he played in both of the bands and one of them released that song in 1970 and then he released his own solo version in 1973, which is what everybody thinks of when they hear rock and roll hoochie coo. Oh so he produced, like the first five or six Weird Al Yankovic albums.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Like, just how, Like you know, like, and I just say, like, how did they meet? How did it become that they got this real tight relationship that he was with them for that long? You know, I don't know the answer, but I find it fascinating.
Speaker 1:Maybe they're on the same record label and they just kind of hooked them up.
Speaker 2:I don't know, it's just cool, very cool. So Fine Young Cannibals released Johnny Come Home May 31st 1985. First single from their late 1985 self-titled album. When the English beat broke up in 84, two bands came out of it General Public and Fine Young Cannibals. And General Public had Dave Wakeling, ranking Roger, who was a vocalist, and you had Fine Young Cannibals had two guys Andy Cox and another guy I think his last name was Steel, and one was like maybe the bassist and the guitarist, I don't remember exactly, but they found a singer, roland Gift, whose vocals are so distinct when this guy sings and at the time was just really kind of different than everything that was being played.
Speaker 1:Yeah, real high kind of falsetto yeah.
Speaker 2:I love his voice, love his voice and I love the trumpet throughout the song Kind of gives it like this jazzy feel. That is just different. That's what's being played on the radio at the time. Nobody knows the trouble you feel. Nobody cares. The feeling is real. Johnny, we're sorry, won't you come on home? That makes me want to go home, jimmy. I want Johnny to come on home. There you go. Wdre. Shriek of the Week first week of June 1990, concrete Blonde Joey.
Speaker 2:Yeah, good song. 1990, concrete Blonde Joey. Yeah, good song. Joey, baby, don't get crazy. Detours fences, I get defensive. Five months later, the song peaked at number 19 on Billboard Hot 100. Song peaked at number 19 on billboard hot 100.
Speaker 2:I know you've heard it before, so I don't say it anymore. I just stand by and let you fight your secret war. These words are just super cool. I mean, they're just like. You know. I'm saying to myself when I first heard it what's this all about? I love songs. We talk about this.
Speaker 2:I love songs that sound like they come from the heart. That attracts me to songs the person is going through, whatever it is that they're singing about. Usually it's about something not so good, despair of some kind. Despair of some kind, and lead singer Jeanette Napolitano wrote the song about her relationship with Mark Morland, the guitarist of Wall of Voodoo. Wall of Voodoo did Mexican radio I think that was 83-ish, 82, 83, somewhere around there, and he was battling alcoholism and that's what the song is about. And she had the music and she wouldn't write the words because it was so difficult for her to want to even put it out there. And wrote the words right before they finally went to record it went to record it and, though I used to wonder why I used to cry till I was dry, still, sometimes I get a strange pain inside. Oh, joey, if you're hurting, so am I. I mean, the words are unbelievable. What a great song, jimmy.
Speaker 1:Did you ever see them live?
Speaker 2:I did not.
Speaker 1:I saw them. I don't know if that was 90. I mean, if they had a song that was near the top 10 of the billboard charts, then it must have been before then, Because I saw them at the Uptown Lounge in Athens, which held about, you know, 150 people.
Speaker 2:Was it for this album, because they had a bunch of albums out beforehand? Yeah, I think it was one of the.
Speaker 1:It must have been one of the earlier ones, you know, maybe it was 88 or 89. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Gotcha.
Speaker 1:Gotcha, they were fantastic.
Speaker 2:Were they.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's a great singer.
Speaker 2:I wish that I could have seen them, but you know what else I wish. I wish right now it was Minute with Jimmy. It's time for Minute with Jimmy. Minute with Jimmy. Minute with Jimmy.
Speaker 1:It's time for Minute with Jimmy. Minute with Jimmy, minute with Jimmy. Okay, I wanted to talk about this band that my brother, john the show, knows from the London Calling thing called the Ginnels. They are a band from Ireland, not tremendously popular, but John somehow found them, I think, on Spotify. You know, you kind of go to artists and then related artists or whatever he was doing and, uh, they have an album that came out this year called the picturesque. Uh, it's not my favorite album of theirs, though. My favorite album of theirs was from 2014, called a country life, and the song you need to look up is called Not what you Think, and Ginnles is G-I-N-N-E-L-S. Ginnles are it's an Irish term for the space, the alleyways between houses.
Speaker 1:So, that's what they call them. You know different cultures and people have different ways of talking about those places, but this is a really, really fun song. You know it's kind of poppy, but it's got that Irish bent to it and you should look it up.
Speaker 2:I will definitely give it a listen to. It does sound kind of cool. Yeah, I'm looking forward to that, jimmy. Thank you for that Minute with Jimmy. Minute with Jimmy. If you'd like to reach us, you can at musicinmys my shoes at gmailcom. Please like and follow the music in my shoes Facebook and Instagram pages and share the podcast with your friends. We would love to hear from you Anything that. You'd like to ask anything about the show or you just want to make a general comment about something that happened to you that relates to the show? Feel free. That's it for episode 81 of Music in my Shoes. I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of Arcade 160 Studios located right here in Atlanta, georgia, and Vic Thrill for our podcast music. This is Jim Boge, and I hope you learned something new or remembered something old. We'll meet again on our next episode. Until then, live life and keep the music playing. Thank you.
