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E85 Black Sabbath Fan Jams with Band Members, and Billboard Hits of July 1985
What happens when lifelong fandom meets musical opportunity? Matt Hughes knows firsthand. Having grown up purchasing Black Sabbath albums, Matt eventually found himself trading guitar solos with Tony Iommi and jamming alongside Bill Ward through Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp experiences that transformed his relationship with music.
The most remarkable chapters of Matt's story revolve around Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp, which he describes as "life-changing." Through this innovative program, musicians of all skill levels get to perform with rock legends. For Matt, this meant playing Hendrix's "Hey Joe" with Bill Ward and Lita Ford, and later receiving "the nod" from Tony Iommi to take a guitar solo during Black Sabbath's "Into the Void." These surreal moments—capped by Iommi gifting him a guitar pick—illustrate how the boundaries between fan and musician can beautifully blur.
As we anticipate Black Sabbath and Ozzy's final performance together in Birmingham on July 5, 2025, Matt's experiences offer a unique perspective on music's power to create meaningful connections across decades. His story reminds us that passion, persistence, and a willingness to participate can transform our relationship with the music and artists we love.
We also look back at the Billboard Hot 100 Chart from July 13, 1985. Songs included are Dire Straits "Money for Nothing" and Dead or Alive "You Spin Me Round (Like a Record)." What made #1? Listen to find out!!!
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Speaker 3:He's got the feeling and it's out there growing. Hey everybody, this is Jim Boge and you're listening to Music In my Shoes. That was Vic Thrill kicking off episode 85. As always, I'm thrilled to be here with you. Let's learn something new or remember something old. On July 5th 2025, black Sabbath and Ozzy Osbourne are playing their final live show together in Birmingham, england, titled Back to the Beginning Ozzy with Black Sabbath, ozzy solo, as well as performances from Metallica, guns N' Roses, slayer, tool, pantera, anthrax, tom Morello, billy Corgan and many, many more. So I thought it would be really cool to have a guest on the show that is jammed with two members of Black Sabbath drummer Bill Ward and guitarist Tony Iommi. And, just like that, joining us on the phone from Seal Beach, california, is Matt Hughes. Thank you so much for joining us. My pleasure, jim. Hi, jimmy.
Speaker 2:Hey, matt, so glad you're joining us.
Speaker 3:So, just to put it out there, I've known Matt since elementary school, which is a pretty long time, and we actually took a guitar class together, matt, do you remember in 10th grade? I think it was Mr Reynolds that taught the class. Yes, I do podcast and I know that that you have, uh done well. You know playing the guitar, having fun with it and and play with many different people. So what are your early memories of listening to Black Sabbath and Ozzy?
Speaker 1:um, I actually remember the first time I listened to, um, a Black Sabbath album was that we sold our souls for rock and roll, kind of a greatest hits album. So I literally remember being in Levittown, new York and listening to that album and the impact of it, the real power from hearing that catalog. It was incredible. And then with the Blizzard of Oz album, I bought the English import of that English import of that. So I had Blizzard a few months before it came out in America and I got to see the Blizzard of Oz tour at the Palladium with Randy Rhoads, rudy Sarzo and Tommy Aldridge rounding out the band.
Speaker 3:That's a pretty good thing. Yeah, that is definitely pretty cool. So when you first heard Black Sabbath, was it from friends or was it from a family member? Where did you get to hear it from?
Speaker 1:Yes, it was one of my best friends, still to this day. Chris DePaulo loaned me the album we Sold Our Souls for Rock and Roll and from there I went and bought the entire. You know, using paper route money and washing dishes and all the teenage money you can round up. But I wound up going back and buying the entire catalog and then following Ozzy's career from the Blizzard all the way through the current material.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so it's kind of funny. You talk about the paper route. I had a paper route and Corn Crib, the road that you grew up on, actually was one of the streets that I would do my deliveries to and I have a lot of good memories. The first time I heard the B-52s was actually on Corn Crib, probably two-thirds of the way down from your house, and I can still remember to this day the whole thing and how I got to hear them was on corn crib as I was delivering the newspaper. It was just, you know some, some good memories, uh, for me.
Speaker 3:So you know, I remember back in 1982, there was a school dance at division Avenue, where we went to high school, and that happened to be the day that Randy Rhodes was killed in the plane crash. And I remember talking with you you know this is 43 years ago and you know it definitely, you know had an impact, you know, on you and what do you think about, you know, ozzy, and before with Randy Rhodes, and then after, and you know kind of the way that that his career went.
Speaker 1:Well, I love all of the incarnations of Ozzy's band. He's always had the best musicians, whether it was in Sabbath and then his solo career. So Tommy Aldridge and Rudy Sarzo were the bass and drummer on the Blizzard tour and on the Diary of a Madman tour. I saw both of those with Randy Rhoads on guitar. And then the next tour he added Carmine Appese from New York on drums and Jakey Lee on guitar, and we were seniors in high school.
Speaker 1:Jim and Richie Lurita took us backstage at the Nassau Coliseum. He was one of the, he worked at the concession stand and he brought Kenny Mullen and I backstage. So we got to spend, uh, that afternoon with Jakey Lee, chit-chatting with him. We met the entire band. We only got to say hello to Ozzy and Sharon because they were literally holding an infant baby daughter Amy, at the time. So it was really cool how, um, we got right in right away. So seeing the Blizzard tour, then the Bark at the Moon tour, and after Jakey Lee was Zach Wild on guitar and just a phenomenal musician from New Jersey, great singer, songwriter and a crazy shredder on guitar. He had Steve Vai on guitar and the reason I mentioned that is I've jammed with most of those people. So we'll get into that stuff. But most of the people I just named I've played with.
Speaker 3:That's really cool. That's so cool, and not as cool as the fact that, I remember, the concession stand was run by Harry M Stevenson, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1:Yes, Harry M.
Speaker 3:Stevens and Richie Laredo, who's no longer with us. You know another guy that I knew back from elementary school and, you know, have some good memories with him. That's really cool that he was able to get you backstage for all that. So you know, let's get into it and let's talk about you playing with. I mean I wanted to talk about Bill Ward and Tony Iommi. I mean you feel free to talk about them and some of the other people.
Speaker 1:Sure, Bill and I have been friends for over 20 years, so that was very nice. That when the way I got to play, I used to own a music video soundstage and a recording studio, and I'm going to say between up to 2013. So Bill, who was already a friend, a new friend at that time would actually come to my soundstage and have his band, the Bill Ward band, rehearse their material there. So we were friendly way back when. And then in 2015, Bill signed up to do a rock and roll fantasy camp and that's really where I got to jam with most of these people, even though, through my recording studio and my music videography work through up until 2020, I had made all these music connections and was able to write and record and, uh, with a lot of other people.
Speaker 1:So in 2015, Bill Ward even though he was at my studio the week of that and we had lunch together before that he was doing a rock and roll fantasy camp. So I paid the money I don't ask friends to jam or do anything uh, that would infringe on our friendship and so he was doing it. It was open for the public and it was Bill Ward. Michael Shanker, 38 Special and Glenn Hughes of Deep Purple were the headliners, and Rudy Sarzo, who's the bass player in Ozzy, was also one of the rock and roll fantasy camp counselors that time.
Speaker 3:Wasn't he in Quiet Ryan?
Speaker 1:He was.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was in Quiet Ryan.
Speaker 1:Come here with noise and all that Mm-hmm. Yes, so Rudy was there as well. So that weekend I got to play with Bill and Rudy and then later on I did three rock and roll fantasy camps. It's the greatest event. I just can't say enough about it. David Fischhoff is the producer of it and he is the person who I'll say produced the first came up with the idea for Ringo to do the all-star band.
Speaker 1:Ringo to do the all-star band, so that's where it originates and getting all of those using Ringo's network and David's network to get all those great performers over the last 30 years. I know you just went to see Ringo and I saw him last year. David started in music doing that Ringo Starr all-star band and the Monkees Reunion Tour in the 80s and then developed Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp. So it's just through that extraordinary life-changing camp that you get to spend the whole weekend with some of these, with the counselors, who were all rock stars, and then the headliners, like Bill Ward. Tony Iommi did the same thing two years later. So I got to play with Tony Iommi and Zach Wild of Ozzy's band as well as Steve Vai, right. So Steve Vai played on one album with Ozzy, right. So the connection back to Sabbath and Ozzy is really amazing that you know five of those people I got to play with through Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp.
Speaker 3:So what kind of music were you playing? Were you playing Black Sabbath songs? Were you just playing, you know, regular songs that everybody knows. Can you go into that a little bit?
Speaker 1:Sure. So Bill's preference was he wanted to play music that inspired him, right. So he didn't want to play Sabbath songs. So he had a list of songs that he threw out to the Fantasy Camp organization and we got to pick what we wanted to play. There's actually a clip on YouTube of me and Lita Ford and she was our camp counselor, and Bill as the headliner playing hey Joe from Jimi Hendrix.
Speaker 3:That must have been really cool.
Speaker 2:Just wondering, like what the typical person that attends rock and roll fantasy camp? Are they usually real, established musicians? Are they usually middle-aged or younger, or what are they like?
Speaker 1:It runs the gamut, right. So they have some folks who never played an instrument but they get to sing background vocals with their idols, right, yeah. And other people are shredder musicians that are just phenomenal and everywhere in between. But they really go out of their way to kind of place people together and, you know, you go through a questionnaire of abilities so they kind of can balance things out. And the counselors are real amazing. They work with the folks to teach them the vocal line or teach them a tambourine beat or you know a cowbell or something, so everyone gets to perform with them at the best of their ability.
Speaker 2:That's fun.
Speaker 1:And there's been some great ones, just some great performers and great musicians and great friends. Some of my very, very best friends I made at Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp.
Speaker 3:Wow, that is pretty cool yeah.
Speaker 1:It's crazy. I'm going to go meet as soon as I'm done here. I'm going to go meet them, and they were from Cleveland and we met at Fantasy Camp in 2015. And 10 years later, we're best friends and they moved to California. So it's just. I can't say enough of great things about it.
Speaker 3:That's pretty cool. So with Tony Iommi, when you jammed with him, what was he looking to play at that time?
Speaker 1:They had played the LA Forum the night before, so Tony was in Los Angeles, the camp was in Los Angeles, the Bill Ward camp was in Las Vegas and Tony Was playing Sabbath Song so he was good to go with Playing that. I played Into the Void off of Masters of Reality Album.
Speaker 3:And.
Speaker 1:Just what was wonderful about my Experience was I had gone in in between, when we were setting up the stage and preparing, I went up and put my guitar next to Tony's stage gear right, so I wound up playing right next to him. And then, after Tony does his solo, he just looks up and gives me the nod for me to play right. And it was just. You know, I was only one of the campers that got to do exchange guitar solos and I wasn't prepared. I just had to improvise like musicians do. It was really fun.
Speaker 3:And I bet it was. So what's that like for you being able to jam with them and, you know, with Tony Iommi, not knowing that you're gonna, you know, trade guitar solos? I mean, being a fan for so long when you're in the moment. Do you know? Are you thinking about it or is it something that, like, after it's over, you sit back and like this is what I just did, um all of the above right.
Speaker 1:So I did a little prep work. Um I, I knew what I was going to play for the song, but one of the other band members was doing the lead guitar stuff. So once Tony gave me the nod, it was just go right, and that's surreal. That's part of the event, though. When you're playing with Tony Iommi and Zach Wilde and Steve Vai and Warren Haynes, don Felder, they're looking, they're musicians, they want you to play. It's not just you know, they're engaging. So he gave me the nod and I just went for it. I'm not sure how good or bad it sounded, but I have it on video and that you know it was really awesome.
Speaker 2:That's great. I mean it sounds like it didn't, like it wasn't a disaster. You know sometimes like you go for a lead and it's like okay that one didn't work out, but I mean it sounds like you did a job that you're pretty proud enough of right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in the video I couldn't hear my. His volume was louder, right, you know the full stack and all of that. He's trying to fit Laney. He used Laney amplifiers and he had like a full stack and we were I was using a smaller amp, but it's just where the video camera was, um. So anyway, I'm sure what I played was fine, I'm sure what he played was way better. And then I asked him for the guitar pick. So that was really cool. So he just handed it to me and I kind of planned that in advance, like I'm going to ask for that guitar pick.
Speaker 3:That is kind of cool, you know, and the funny thing is, and I don't know how many people know, but Tony Iommi was in Jethro Tull for like a week or something.
Speaker 3:And actually was on the rock and roll circus video when the rolling stones did the rock and roll circus, which is definitely. I listened to that a ton. I love listening to it. I have it on my phone and to you know, I don't know if it was a week, but I don't think it was more than two weeks and I'm so glad he got out of jethro tull and that. You know he became part of Black Sabbath and you know the rest is history. We know, you know everything that happened with them. But you know sometimes, if you think about it, about band members leaving or not leaving and what it could have been or what it is, and you know I think about stuff like that every time I watch Rock and Roll Circus and I see them, I'm like wow, you know, like just wow.
Speaker 1:And Tony also plays the flute, so fortunately they already had a flautist in Ian Anderson and Jethro Tull.
Speaker 3:I did not know that.
Speaker 1:See, tony used to do a flute solo in the early Sabbath tours.
Speaker 3:Ah, Wow, thanks, there you go.
Speaker 1:So what are some of your favorite Black Sabbath songs? And on the same album is a song called Fluff, which is an instrumental and Tony plays harpsichord and his piano and you know beautiful guitar work on it and as a songwriter that affected me as a young musician. You could have this epic rocker like Sabbath's Bloody Sabbath and then have this beautiful song. I think Tony used Fluff to walk down the aisle at his wedding oh wow. So I just love yeah, I just love that about music that you know, back in the day you could have this, whether it's, you know, zeppelin IV, you could have Stairway to Heaven and Black Dog on the same album and everything in between. So you know I love writing without borders, right, and without parameters on it Absolutely.
Speaker 3:Understood. So for me, some of my favorite songs I like NIB and I like Changes and I know a lot of people don't like Changes but I really like that song. I think that's one of those songs that comes from the heart. He's singing it and you can kind of feel what it is that he's singing. You can feel those words and for us we talk about music's not a competition, because I think people always want to pick out the hot songs, the hits and stuff, and I stand by those songs. Those really are probably my two favorite songs by Black Sabbath Awesome.
Speaker 1:Yes, did you like Ozzy and Kelly's version remake of Changes? I thought they did a good job on that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, I think that it's one of those songs, that the words that, no matter when it comes out and that, no matter who's singing it, that you can feel some connection to it.
Speaker 1:Yes, that hits you right in the heart, I agree.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it definitely does. So I know that you had an album that came out last year. I know that you had some different people jam with you on that album. You want to talk a little bit about that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, through the music video business I ran into a lot of great musicians and going back way before that, as a kid, I remember looking at Steely Dan albums and seeing all the different names of the musicians, the sidemen, so I was always interested in the other people that are up on the stage as well as the headliner that are up on the stage as well as the headliner, and over the years, through my music video connections and recording studio connections, one in particular, a local band called Crimson Crowbar.
Speaker 1:My friend, dave Shelton, introduced me just to so many amazing musicians. His partner in Crimson Crowbar is Frank Symes, who was the music director and keyboardist in the who. He was the lead guitarist in Roger Daltrey, stevie Nicks' band, don Henley's band and then a whole bunch of other folks along those lines Steve DeStanislo of David Gilmour and Don Felder of the Eagles just a whole variety of all those musicians. All became available and you know, once you have a relationship with some of those guys, it opens the doors for others. So you know, having a guy who's on stage with the who every night or on stage with Gilmore I've had Greg Camp of Smash Mouth, john Avila, boingo Boingo just a ton of people that were. One of my favorites was Phil Chen of Rod Stewart's band and Jeff Beck. Right, because those albums made such a.
Speaker 1:That Jeff Beck Blow by Blow album made such an impact on me as a musician and he brought the bass that he used on Blow by Blow. He also used it on Hot Legs for Rod Stewart and the thing about Phil was he would preserve his basses and he only used them. So the strings were 46 years old. Wow. He said how about I bring my? I asked for a fretless bass and he said how about I bring my Blow by Blow bass right? And he brings a bass.
Speaker 1:It's signed by Jeff Beck and Sir George Martin of the Beatles, the producer of the Beatles. He used that bass on Bob Marley albums. He used it God, the list is endless that he used that particular bass on and he was so kind that he sent me pictures you know pictures with him and Eddie Van Halen and Starfleet. When he's the bass player on that album with Brian May. He was also in the Doors, right. So just endless. You know I got to stand with him and Robbie Krieger playing Freeway Jam from Jeff Beck and Robbie Krieger was like, so inspired, like he was having a fan boy moment saying this is Phil Chen. He played on this song, freeway jam on the blow by a blow album, right.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:So it's. It's funny how, musicians as musicians, we're all fans first, and then musicians, um, and then certainly what you and Jimmy are doing with the podcast. Uh, we're just fans of music and musicians.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, definitely. You know Jimmy's a musician, you know he played back in the day in college with the Violets and you know then he was in.
Speaker 3:Space Giants and you know some local things that I've seen him done recently and you know it's a lot of fun being able to talk with him and get his perspective on things where I'm the fanboy and you know talking about the different things that I've liked, and it's always cool to kind of get Jimmy's perspective on different things. So where can people find that last album that you had out last year?
Speaker 1:You know it's only on um, it's, uh, only on YouTube. Okay, it's called. We Got this right and I could send a link and you can pass it on to anyone that's interested in giving a listen. So yeah, it's just a wonderful experience to be able to write and then record with so many great musicians, whether they're local people or playing with the Black Crows and Jimmy Page and all those guys. It's just a great experience all around.
Speaker 3:Well, it definitely sounds like it, so will you be streaming back to the beginning and watching it when it's on July 5th?
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely. It's my friend who I met at Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp. Tony Tominski's 50th birthday and he's staying above the Rainbow Bar and Grill, a legendary place on the Sunset Strip.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:And streaming. He's going to be streaming that the whole weekend, so we can't wait to watch that. We're just so looking forward to Bill, Tony, Geezer and Ozzy just having that moment to finally be together at the final moments of all of that. It's going to be awesome.
Speaker 3:I'm looking forward to it as well. So I think, matt, you know I've seen you a few times. You know we've flown in both to Levittown at different times, but I think I saw you in California, probably like 2008. And I went and I think it was you and a guy, tommy McElhost, that were jamming, and then a bunch of people flew in from Levittown and I felt like there was more people from Levittown in that one place than you know it was crazy and I remember this big piano that was there, that it seemed like it took like 17 people to move that thing.
Speaker 3:It was this big thing no-transcript.
Speaker 1:I actually have it on. I have a DVD of it and I happened to see it yesterday to see when it was, and one of the musicians is visiting me right now from Levittown, who played that night along with Rob Lombardi and Rob Fitzpatrick and Tom McLaughlin, host of Levittown. Dan Allen is the bass player from Levittown and he's visiting California right now and staying with me.
Speaker 3:There you go. It just kind of shows you, you know, that the world is much smaller than we think.
Speaker 1:Hey so I. Music is a common bond and keeps us all together all these years.
Speaker 3:Yes, it really is. I mean, without a doubt, and I enjoy, you know, looking at your social media and the pictures that you put up with. You know really everybody, whether or not be the guys from Black Sabbath, I think you know Rusty from Paul McCartney's band just a hundred different people and it's just fun to look at all that stuff. I love that stuff. That is what I'm all about. I really really do appreciate you coming on and sharing a little bit about your experiences playing with different members of the band and obviously a lot more members of the band than I even knew about. It's really cool to hear your story and you know we love stories, right, jimmy?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, this has been amazing. Thanks, Matt.
Speaker 1:My pleasure. Thank you, guys, it's you know we have the same enthusiasm, right. So when I listened to your podcast, I was like you know, I could sit in and enjoy this conversation and all the time I could do this every day with my friends. We talk music all the time. We're the biggest, I'll say, music fanboys or nerds. You know, my friend's wife calls us music nerds.
Speaker 3:Right, I understand.
Speaker 2:Guilty as charged.
Speaker 3:Yes, I definitely understand. Yeah, I do appreciate you coming on making the time to join us here on Music In my Shoes and we wish you the best of luck to continue jamming out with some of your idols and keep us informed on it. It's been a surreal life.
Speaker 1:I can tell you that, yes, I have to pinch myself. You know, it's just surreal to be in those situations. They just keep happening.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, matt, seriously, I think we're in Mr Reynolds' class. And if you told me then because I was just trying to figure out how to play Stray Cat Strut and I couldn't figure it out but if you had told me then that in 2025, because I think that was about 1982 or so if you told me that you would have jammed with all these musicians and I'd be hosting a podcast, I would have said you're crazy. So that's all. I'll leave it at.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so thank you very much for having me. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3:All right, thank you, matt, take care, thanks Matt, take care, thanks Matt. That was a lot of fun, jimmy. I really enjoyed talking to Matt.
Speaker 2:So cool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, really cool. So with it being episode 85, I thought we'd keep up with the theme from past episodes, such as 75 and 80, and look back at some of the songs from Billboard Hot 100 on July 13th 1985. Going to get into it really quick At number 91, a song we spoke about recently, take On Me by A-Ha debuted on the chart. Number 87, dire Straits Money for Nothing debuted on the chart as well, eventually peaked at number one on September 21st 1985. And you know, it starts off with the I want my MTV. If you remember the commercials when MTV first started airing, they would have the police and other bands, I think Pat Benatar.
Speaker 2:Billy Idol.
Speaker 3:Billy Idol and it would say I want my MTV, and that was an inspiration for the beginning of it. And he got Sting to say I want my MTV. But he had him singing it to the song Don't Stand so Close to Me, right, which ended up making Sting get a a writing credit. And you know his publisher's making a lot of money off of the song mhm. So as he should, yeah, there you go. There you go. Ha, now look at them, yo-yos. That's the way you do it. You play the guitar on MTV. That ain't working. That's the way you do it. Money for nothing and your chicks for free. I have to be honest with you. I always thought it was checks.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, okay, that kind of makes sense.
Speaker 3:So do you know the story behind the song?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3:So singer-guitarist Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits was in an appliance store in New York City and a guy who worked in the store was kind of giving his commentary to another guy about these videos, because in the back of the store you're going to a client's store or any big box and they have all the TVs and they're showing the same thing and he's saying all these lines that ain't working is one of them. And Mark Knopfler goes to the cashier or something and is like hey, do you have a pen and paper? And he starts writing down these different things that this guy is saying. And we got to install microwave ovens, custom kitchen deliveries, We've got to move these refrigerators, We've got to move these color TVs. At the time when the song came out, what does this have to do with anything? And it's not until I understood the whole meaning behind it that it makes sense. Like it was crazy. Yeah, you know, we got to install microwave ovens. Why is that in a song For dire straits?
Speaker 2:I think I heard about it back then. It was like, yeah, it's just about this blue collar guy that's, you know, working a regular job. It's looking at the guys on MTV saying, hey, they got it easy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, the rest is history. The video is pretty cool. Also. Let's move on to number 79, simple Minds. Don't you Forget About Me. Number 71, rat Lay it Down. I'm not a big Rat fan, but I do like this song. It's a cool song to listen to. I know you don't like that kind of music at all, jimmy. That's not your thing. No, that's all right. Music is not a competition, it isn't no. Number 54, if you didn't like that song, I'm sure you're not going to like this one. I Wonder If I Take you Home by Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam with Full Force. I don't know why, but I really like that song. It's not my cup of tea.
Speaker 2:I can't even picture what it is.
Speaker 3:I really liked it. It was just this pop song. You know, organized pop is what I call it.
Speaker 3:You know, when somebody puts something together and you know it's all pretty in a package type of thing, yeah. Number 49, john Fogerty's Centerfield. Number 47, weird Al Yankovic with Like a Surgeon oh my God, yes. Yankovic with Like a Surgeon oh my God, yes. Number 38, brian Adams Summer of 69, which peaked at number five on August 31st. Number 37, in my House by the Mary Jane Girls and they were protégés of Super Freak himself. Rick James, another not my kind of music, but I really like this song. I put it on the other day. Let me listen to it. I'm like, yeah, I still like it. You know which song is this? This is In my House.
Speaker 2:Oh, is that the one that says in my house?
Speaker 3:That's it. Okay, you know what? You had 100% chance of getting that right.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, it could have been our house.
Speaker 3:No, no, no In my house that was good though. Number 34, katrina and the Waves Walking on Sunshine. Number 29 on the Billboard Hot 100 for July 13th 1985, the Power of Love by Huey Lewis and the News. It peaked at number one on August 24th. Number 26, dead or Alive. With one of my favorite 80s pop songs, you Spin Me Round like a record peaking at number 11 on August 17th. And my favorite version because they put a bunch out out like they did a lot in the 80s, they would always put out remixes and extended is the eight minute murder mix. It's the version that I like the best. I really do so. Do you like that song at all, jimmy?
Speaker 2:yeah, it's fun. You know, whatever I mean, I don't like any of these songs very much.
Speaker 3:That's not surprising. Music's not a competition. I was in the 10th grade.
Speaker 2:It was supposed to be like people that were in the 10th grade in 1955, they got cigarettes signed by Bill Haley. You know what I mean. Like I was supposed to like everything that was on the radio and it all sucked.
Speaker 3:Wow, wow, wow Wow.
Speaker 2:So that's how I feel about these charts.
Speaker 3:So you know I'm a little bit older. I was hanging out at the clubs and you know dance songs and going and dancing and the whole nine yards. I really like that song. So it's a different point of view. Number 25 Everybody Wants to Rule the World by Tears for Fears.
Speaker 2:That's a pretty good song.
Speaker 3:Number 24 Howard Jones, with Things Can Only Get Better. Okay, I like that song you do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know Howard Jones. I don't know as far as like the Brit pop at that time, like Howard Jones was doing something right.
Speaker 3:I like his hair. He doesn't have it anymore, but I liked it back then.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I bet he liked it.
Speaker 3:I'm sure he did. Number 22, depeche Mode with People Are People which I've mentioned before. They don't particularly like the song but it really got them well-known. It was a big hit for them. Number 18, the Power Station with Get it On Bang A Gong. That Number 18, the Power Station with Get it On Bang A Gong. That was what T-Rex originally that did. That.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:So good song. I really liked it when T-Rex did it, a lot more than I liked it when the Power Station did it. Exactly. Number 14, tears For Fears with Shout. Number 11, sting If you Love Somebody, set them Free, which peaked at number three on August 3rd, and now we're going to get into the top 10. This is the most songs that we've done when we've done the little countdown here.
Speaker 2:All these songs are suddenly reminding me of when I bagged groceries at Kroger, because I did that in the 10th grade in 1985. So Money for Nothing and that Sting song and everything my life's flashing before my eyes. I didn't like it, but it was on the radio, so I remember the job I had.
Speaker 3:There you go. That's what music does it brings back memories. Unfortunately, it doesn't only bring back good memories, it brings back all memories.
Speaker 2:Yeah, at least for me, money for Nothing. I remember cleaning the bathrooms and and listening to that song. You know I don't like cleaning a grocery store bathroom, but I had to do it, somebody had to do it I bet not, I mean I bet those guys on mtv didn't have to do that. No, and they got that checks for free.
Speaker 3:Yeah I mean they're chicks for free. See, I keep saying it, I keep still I think checks for free Wow.
Speaker 2:Like Chex Mix or like a.
Speaker 3:No, like they're checks I'm kidding, you know seriously like they're playing and then they can do anything and then they just got a check written out to them.
Speaker 2:That does make sense.
Speaker 3:Number 10. Recently we mentioned the Goonies Are Good Enough by Cyndi Lauper.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, that song's awful.
Speaker 3:It is. It's good enough for the movie, but it's not good enough to be number 10 on the Billboard Hot 100.
Speaker 2:And it was really there.
Speaker 3:Yes, wow, yeah, number nine Bruce Springsteen Glory Days. I like that song, you know. Yeah, like now you're kind of thinking about your Glory Days working at the supermarket cleaning up in the bathroom.
Speaker 2:That's how bad everything else was on the radio. That Bruce Springsteen Glory Days was like yeah, that's a rock song that I can like.
Speaker 3:Again, ladies and gentlemen, music is not a competition. Number eight Voices Carry Till Tuesday.
Speaker 2:Okay, I have a funny story about that song. I didn't know it was called Voices Carry. I thought they were saying it's so scary.
Speaker 3:Wait a minute.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:It's so scary.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Hush hush, keep it down.
Speaker 2:I didn't think they said keep it down. I thought they said Even Downtown, it's so scary, just move on.
Speaker 3:Oh, my lord, one of the reasons Jimmy stayed out of the city when he was younger. Wow, that's good. I like that Number seven. You Give Good Love Whitney Houston. Number six Paul Young, every Time you Go Away. I like that Number seven. You Give Good Love Whitney Houston. Number six Paul Young, every Time you Go Away.
Speaker 2:I like this song.
Speaker 3:Now I do, and it's a Hall and Oates song.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I like it. I really do. I know it's all Kind of mushy and everything, but I do like it. So, number five, would I Lie To you? Eurythmics? Yeah, that's a song, everything but I do like it.
Speaker 2:So number five would I lie to you your rhythmics?
Speaker 3:yeah I'm not gonna lie to you, I didn't really like it. I mean, I didn't listen. So before we get into the top four, I wanted to talk about these songs because you can't erase it. It is what was the top 100, billboard Hot 100, july 13th 1985. And we're taking a look back. In 1980, there was a ton of songs where it was like, yeah, man, this is super cool. 1975, there was a ton of songs that this was super cool and, as you could see, as time goes on, it's not as so super cool anymore. Yep.
Speaker 2:So I doubt 90s that cool either.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't want to talk about that at this moment, but I will say number four the Search Is Over by Survivor. Okay, I'm just letting you know. I am reading the songs that I've written down that are from there. I didn't really like that song either. Yeah, Number three Prince and the Revolution with Raspberry Beret. I did like that song.
Speaker 2:Oh, great song. All right Reminds me of Kroger too. It reminds me of the deli, like being on break, see Money for Nothing. Reminds me of working. But that song. I'm on break. I got like a 10-minute break, oh my lord, but I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3:Number two, susudio by Phil Collins, which, I have to say, definitely ranks up there in some of my least favorite songs of all time. I'm glad you said that Number one song on Billboard Hot 100 on July 13th 1985, duran Duran. A View to a Kill. May 13th 1985, duran Duran A View to a Kill, which was a WLIR Scream of the Week the first week of May 1985, meeting you with A View to a Kill, face-to-face, in secret places. Feel the chill, ooh. You can have a view to Music in my Shoes by contacting us at musicinmyshoes at gmailcom. Please like and follow the Music In my Shoes Facebook and Instagram pages. Share the podcast with your friends. Share it on social media. Let them know what it is that you listen to.
Speaker 3:That's it for episode 85 of Music in my Shoes. I'd like to thank Matt Hughes for all those wonderful stories about Black Sabbath and members that he jammed with, jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of Arcade 160 Studios located right here in Atlanta, georgia, and Vic Thrill for our podcast music. This is Jim Boge, and I hope you learned something new or remembered something old. We'll meet again on our next episode. Remember music is not a competition and until then, live life and keep the music playing. Thank you.
